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liam2me

30-04-2009, 09:52 PM

the hairspreys failed to pick up a BP against the dragons and Munster are crowned champions with 2 games still to play :grin::grin::grin::g rin:

Eoin

30-04-2009, 10:08 PM

Excellent stuff, and a nice boost ahead of saturday, it'd be great to do the double.

VzN

30-04-2009, 10:31 PM

Great stuff.

Liathroidi Mor

30-04-2009, 11:21 PM

Thats the job!!! Can also give a few of the "fringe players" a game for the last 2 games!!!

gozzy

30-04-2009, 11:32 PM

Meh...

captainshamrock

30-04-2009, 11:55 PM

And in two weeks we'll pick up the best supported team in the ML title from Leinster as well.
People are realising that it's a great way to spend a Fri or Sat evening. The amount of kids you see at the game has gone through the roof the last 2 years.
Team was training in MP today before heading to Dublin. Pity they can't really celebrate it for a few days. It would be a huge achievement to do the double.
3 HC's in 4 years would put them up there with Toulouse.

Rebel Girl in Exile

30-04-2009, 11:59 PM

BangorFeen

01-05-2009, 08:59 AM

Ospreys were shocking tonight. Would have loved to have seen it going down to the final game in Thomond but i'll take this no bother! Just the 2 losses to Connaught and Ulster, great campaign all in all.

Roll on Saturday now :)

1 down 1 to go!
Three loses. We lost to Ulster on the double. And Connaught make sports cars. Connacht is the province ;)

POL

01-05-2009, 09:01 AM

who are the current AIL champions?

BangorFeen

01-05-2009, 09:05 AM

who are the current AIL champions?
Who is the five o'clock hero?

Rebel Yell

01-05-2009, 09:10 AM

who are the current AIL champions?

Cork Con....I am surprised that a real hardcore Meinster fan like yourself did not know that...

And i don't see you congratulating us Munster fans on our Magner's League triumph...the Double is on...

Bad sportsmanship if you don't...and we don't expect that in rugby circles...

daithi81

01-05-2009, 09:14 AM

There is a Gift Grub song on Today FM now, in the style of 'Use Sunscreen'.

Instead its 'Use Munster'.

POL

01-05-2009, 09:19 AM

Cork Con....I am surprised that a real hardcore Meinster fan like yourself did not know that...

And i don't see you congratulating us Munster fans on our Magner's League triumph...the Double is on...

Bad sportsmanship if you don't...and we don't expect that in rugby circles...and it only took you 9 minutes to google it, god lad. :lol!:

Rebel Yell

01-05-2009, 09:24 AM

and it only took you 9 minutes to google it, god lad. :lol!:

Who needs google when you can actually go to the game..

daithi81

01-05-2009, 09:42 AM

Another song on Today FM, this time from the Leinster end.

'If you find yourself outnumbered by Munster fans, remember most of them travelled here by bandwagon'

:lol!:

Lamps

01-05-2009, 09:48 AM

Ah jesus lads, ye'll never guess what I just heard there. 100% true. This lad in his box fresh Munstershire jersey said you'd feel like you could "take on anything" when your wearing the jersey.

I think i'm going to be sick.

daithi81

01-05-2009, 09:52 AM

Lamps

01-05-2009, 09:55 AM

No class. Not one ounce.

I'm genuinely dumbfounded that people are buying into this crap.

Fellas are putting on the jersey and thinking they are "brave"/"faithful"/"unstoppable"

Christ

Tube a Pringles

01-05-2009, 09:59 AM

Having played for the province, there are a few words you learn to say just before putting the shirt on..........and don't ask, I can't remember.

Rebelred

01-05-2009, 10:04 AM

I'm genuinely dumbfounded that people are buying into this crap.

Fellas are putting on the jersey and thinking they are "brave"/"faithful"/"unstoppable"

Christ

a "diehard" munster wagoner/rugger hugger here was unaware they won the league last night the poor lass

"How could they have been playing last night if they're playing tomorrow???"

daithi81

01-05-2009, 10:06 AM

and don't ask, I can't remember.

You have buried it deep within you, I'd say. Like many rape victims do, suppressing the memories.

Are you ashamed of what you did?

It's ok, you can tell me...

Tube a Pringles

01-05-2009, 10:08 AM

You have buried it deep within you, I'd say. Like many rape victims do, suppressing the memories.

Are you ashamed of what you did?

It's ok, you can tell me...

I have flash backs Daithi.......mainly involving the Dolphin dressing rooms and people like Donal Lenihan and Terry Kingston....

POL

01-05-2009, 10:12 AM

I'm genuinely dumbfounded that people are buying into this crap.

Fellas are putting on the jersey and thinking they are "brave"/"faithful"/"unstoppable"

Christ

Munstershire have the monopoly and copyright on pride and passion and all that other guff they can come up with in th marketing department up in Limerick, what a joke, the likes of rebelyell swallow this shit, as if Drico is not passionate about winning, what an insult, the Irish sporting public have had quite enough of this Munstershire shite at this stage. Lads with posh accents thinking they are Dockers and Binmen, enough is enough at this stage

Lamps

01-05-2009, 10:12 AM

You need to tell us this TubeY. It could be epic

Lamps

01-05-2009, 10:14 AM

Tube a Pringles

01-05-2009, 10:15 AM

You need to tell us this TubeY. It could be epic

I played up to U21 for Munster......but this was all pre some fool singing about a field in Galway though. Little relevance like.

daithi81

01-05-2009, 10:25 AM

I have flash backs Daithi.......mainly involving the Dolphin dressing rooms and people like Donal Lenihan and Terry Kingston....

Is the flashback all black & white, grainy with sinister music and thunder and lightning in the background?

Is there a odour of entitlement in the air?

Tell me, Tubey, did you call them Dad or Doddy?

Otto_the_bus_driver

01-05-2009, 10:33 AM

Munstershire have the monopoly and copyright on pride and passion and all that other guff they can come up with in th marketing department up in Limerick, what a joke, the likes of rebelyell swallow this shit, as if Drico is not passionate about winning, what an insult, the Irish sporting public have had quite enough of this Munstershire shite at this stage. Lads with posh accents thinking they are Dockers and Binmen, enough is enough at this stage

Is it enough though?

I used to work near the local rugby club and unavoidably i would be in/around the grounds and over the past 5/6 years the amount of people playing the game seems to have exloded.
Mainly kids in the 10-15 age group but there definitely has been a huge increase.

On a side note, i did have to deal with the Rugby Club om one or two issues and all i will say is................ CUNTS.

Not all but the majority.

BangorFeen

01-05-2009, 10:36 AM

More obviously on topic, Leinster have named Nacewa at FB over Dempsey.

So, Meinsters; a bold move by Cheika or a potentially crippling defensive weakness in a key area? Discuss.

johnmcork

01-05-2009, 10:54 AM

More obviously on topic, Leinster have named Nacewa at FB over Dempsey.

So, Meinsters; a bold move by Cheika or a potentially crippling defensive weakness in a key area? Discuss.

that sounds like a mad move.
has girve lost his swerve???

tim the trip

01-05-2009, 11:01 AM

Another song on Today FM, this time from the Leinster end.

'If you find yourself outnumbered by Munster fans, remember most of them travelled here by bandwagon'

:lol!:

today f.m. is for wankers.

johnmcork

01-05-2009, 11:01 AM

Leinster must be patient and proudly blue
In this section »
Vital cog in a well-oiled professional machineCrucial areas: The centre combinationsNacewa to get nod ahead of DempseyHoping to take a big step in the right directionSheahan set for move to BrivePlanet RugbyRUGBY ANALYST: So have Munster a weakness? Well, no. All things being equal, Leinster won’t get past them. But all things are not equal, writes LIAM TOLAND .

SO ONCE again the Formula One car is meeting head on with the World Rally Car. For many years Munster were very comfortable in the rally car, muscling their way around the track. The difference between then and now is obvious: Munster can drive whatever car they want.

Do Leinster have a chance tomorrow? Well, they’ve as good a chance as any other side in world rugby. For it’s important to put this fixture in perspective. There are few sides (international included) who could beat Munster. That’s no disrespect to Leinster, it’s simply fact. Leinster are underdogs, and for good reason. After 16 Magners League and seven Heineken Cup games there remain huge question marks over their best 15. Worse still, their key command positions of scrumhalf and outhalf have chopped and changed all season.

But then tomorrow is the derby fixture of the season. A few weeks ago Liverpool required three goals against Chelsea to stay in Europe. Not only did they manage this against all odds, but they scored four. And to compound the derby effect on results, Chelsea also managed four, thereby knocking Liverpool out. No one in their right mind would have predicted that outcome. Derby’s can churn out very unusual results.

Three months ago I suggested Leinster were a good outside bet for the Heineken Cup, a statement received with many smiles. My view is simple: once New Zealand are knocked out of the World Cup then anyone can win it. Likewise once Munster are knocked out of Europe anyone can win the Heineken Cup. As unlikely as it may seem, tomorrow is Leinster’s opportunity to knock them out.

On last week’s evidence it’s tempting to include Jonathan Sexton at 10, even though it would be forced as opposed to planned. Both “10s” have much to offer, but, if involved, I hope his instinct for control becomes his priority. That Leinster have been unable to exert control over Munster in recent battles has been obvious, but it’s their inability to exert control over themselves that’s most worrying. If they can, they’ll have a chance.

Few sides can mimic Munster’s ability to soak up pressure and wait so patiently for guilt-edged opportunities to pounce. Where once they had the ability to strangle the very life out of the opposition, they can now create those opportunities.

Hence the importance of field position to Leinster. In their last meeting in Thomond Park, Leinster created many opportunities that should have resulted in scores. But they fell into the trap, became impatient and forced the game deep inside their half. By half-time they were fast becoming frustrated.

Here is where Felipe Contepomi or Sexton must remain patient. Field position is paramount. Rule one for Leinster: play the waiting game and be very, very patient.

Second, they must keep pace on the ball. As I’ve said before, the Leinster front five continue to find themselves in the 10 slot. I hope they can resist the temptation to offer themselves as an extra outhalf. It only slows down the flow and risks turnovers.

So have Munster a weakness? Well, no. They are clearly the best side in Europe. The next best, Claremont Auvergne, have failed to get past them over two years. The All Blacks barely made it and, all things being equal, Leinster won’t either.

But all things are not equal. There is a heavy responsibility on the shoulders of each Munster man, heavier still for those Lions and heaviest due to the Tomás O’Leary factor. Last week Munster displayed real character in coming out after half-time to trounce the Scarlets and gain the bonus point. It must’ve been a very sombre dressingroom.

O’Leary’s absence will affect the tempo of the game. Ronan O’Gara will have become accustomed to the time and space gained by O’Leary’s style, particularly his kicking game. So it is here where Leinster must strike.

The obvious channel of attack will be targeted by the Leinster ball-carriers where – until his dying day – O’Gara will be targeted. But it’s O’Gara’s kicking game that the Leinster backrow should focus on. Severe pressure must be placed on him. At times his exemplary kicking can prove wayward. When Munster are under their greatest pressure, his kicking gives them time to think, which controls the pace of the game. Leinster need to force errors from O’Gara which will reduce Munster’s control. Furthermore, by keeping the ball out of touch, augmented by an aggressive chasing game, Leinster can limit Lifeimi Mafi’s influence on proceedings.

Finally, why do Japanese men enjoy a large pint of Guinness? Or more tangentially, why do the people of the world march in green every St Patrick’s Day? They do so because they’re attracted to the Irish culture. But culture is nothing until people believe in it and follow it, and it is nothing without people perpetuating it. Culture will die when it refuses to change within its surroundings, be it Leinster or Munster. Contrary to what people think, there is a Leinster culture worth supporting. Way back in 1998 I was a lieutenant, based in Cathal Brugha Barracks, Rathmines, Dublin 6, when Mike Ruddock gave me a call. Although I was a product of Munster, I found myself in a position to play for Leinster. That it is different from Munster is no matter, as it was a wonderful journey I never thought I’d experience. The challenge for Leinster tomorrow is to display their unique Leinster brand, a culture for all their people to follow. Build it and they will come!

As I sit in the Cusack Stand tomorrow I’m sure to think back to the great man himself, Michael Cusack, who way back in 1884 started the whole GAA ball rolling. Cusack was a fervent nationalist and promoter of Irish culture. I can’t help thinking of his time teaching in Blackrock College and Clongowes Wood, not to mention his involvement with rugby pre-1884 while running the Civil Service Academy in Dublin. I’m sure he, like those who take time out to appreciate the nurturing of all things cultural, would value the vast array of sports, not to mention music and drama, available in schools such as Blackrock College or St Munchin’s College.

To those of you who still believe that Irish rugby is anathema to Irish culture, I say. . . Dim your lights!

BangorFeen

01-05-2009, 11:02 AM

that sounds like a mad move.
has girve lost his swerve???
On the face of it I think it's too much of a risk. Munster have two very able kickers from the hand in ROG and Warwick. Both of whom will now bomb garryowens on Isa's head for much of the day.

Obviously, Cheika wants to maintain some of the pace coming into the line and attacking skills, not to mention kicking that were lost with Kearney's unfortunate illness and Nacewa is a creative player. FB also limits the extent to which he actually has to pass himself (a weakness in Nacewa's game) but it potentially exposes his defensive frailties a bit more than the wing berth.

I've got difficulty in seeing this gamble paying off for Leinster but then, nobody's paying me several hundred thousands of € to make it either are they?

daithi81

01-05-2009, 11:16 AM

today f.m. is for wankers.

I agree. But I have no choice, I'm at work.

So I'm a forced wanker.

POL

01-05-2009, 11:28 AM

http://www.imagineersltd.co .uk/dynamicdata/assetmanager/images/munster%20sm.jpg

daithi81

01-05-2009, 11:33 AM

http://www.imagineersltd.co .uk/dynamicdata/assetmanager/images/munster%20sm.jpg

Three fingers away from being the Red Hand Defenders.

Says it all, really.

liam2me

01-05-2009, 01:06 PM

More obviously on topic, Leinster have named Nacewa at FB over Dempsey.

So, Meinsters; a bold move by Cheika or a potentially crippling defensive weakness in a key area? Discuss.
No CJ???

How bad boy

01-05-2009, 03:56 PM

As I sit in the Cusack Stand tomorrow I’m sure to think back to the great man himself, Michael Cusack, who way back in 1884 started the whole GAA ball rolling. Cusack was a fervent nationalist and promoter of Irish culture. I can’t help thinking of his time teaching in Blackrock College and Clongowes Wood, not to mention his involvement with rugby pre-1884 while running the Civil Service Academy in Dublin. I’m sure he, like those who take time out to appreciate the nurturing of all things cultural, would value the vast array of sports, not to mention music and drama, available in schools such as Blackrock College or St Munchin’s College.

To those of you who still believe that Irish rugby is anathema to Irish culture, I say. . . Dim your lights!
Big fan of Toland, interesting and inightful.

Incidentally, the Munster branch was formed in 1879, which oddly enough is after the first inter-pro matches in 1875.

I think 134 years of history in Munster V Leinster matches might be long enough for them not to be considered a recent invention...

Rebel Yell

01-05-2009, 04:02 PM

Big fan of Toland, interesting and inightful.

Incidentally, the Munster branch was formed in 1879, which oddly enough is after the first inter-pro matches in 1875.

I think 134 years of history in Munster V Leinster matches might be long enough for them not to be considered a recent invention...

The SFI will be choking on their Afternoon Tea and Fairy cakes...

scodge

01-05-2009, 04:14 PM

You need to tell us this TubeY. It could be epic

No, no you don't.

Lee Bushwacker

01-05-2009, 04:44 PM

Excellent stuff, and a nice boost ahead of saturday, it'd be great to do the double.

Looks like nothing for "the goys" then Eoin!

Edmund Blackwater

05-05-2009, 05:41 PM

Excellent stuff, and a nice boost ahead of saturday, it'd be great to do the double.
twould.

3 HC's in 4 years would put them up there with Toulouse.
twould

1 down 1 to go!
heh heh heh
the Double is on...

tisn't
More obviously on topic, Leinster have named Nacewa at FB over Dempsey.

So, Meinsters; a bold move by Cheika or a potentially crippling defensive weakness in a key area? Discuss.
You tell us
Looks like nothing for "the goys" then Eoin!
The goys have BOD, anything is possible.

:x-mas:

Actin The Sham

05-05-2009, 07:44 PM

Imagine a thread entitled "Cork are the Guinness All Ireland Hurling Champions," when Guinness used to sponsor it.

Funny how the branding works with the jocks.

A drink that isn't even sold in Munstershire, is achieving brand recognition amongst the customers of the franchise.

cit_gym_rat

05-05-2009, 07:57 PM