Timmy McCarthy Eager For Rebel Return

[Redshirter]

No thanks Timmy i am sure we will get on fine without you

Your Thoughts

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[devvy devverson]

We need 4 new forwards not 5

[smallball1]

Great servant, but time to give new blood its chance. Canty, Corry et al need time to develop.

[Rebelred]

Great servant, but time to give new blood its chance. Canty, Corry et al need time to develop.

that's fine in theory but we could do far worse than have Timmy for backup when these two fail to show up. I don't rate Canty to be honest. Corry has alot of improving to do if he is to make it. Would be delighted if they prove me wrong though.
Timmy for 15 minutes at the end of a tight match, he'd be a huge asset

[Redshirter]

Great servant, but time to give new blood its chance. Canty, Corry et al need time to develop.

Great servant my arse , he was ok at the start but for most of his playing days for Cork he was worse than useless

[POLL]

Great servant my arse , he was ok at the start but for most of his playing days for Cork he was worse than useless


Timmy Mc Carthy has been a great servant for cork, dunno what timmy your on about but it aint the one who gave his all for cork...

[POLL]

hURLING iN cORK iS gOING tHE wAY oF tHE dODO. yOUR fOOTBALLERS aRE bETTER aT tHIS sTAGE aND rUGBY wILL bE yOUR nUMBER 1 bEFORE lONG.
aLL tHE rEAL fANS gOING tO tHE mATCHES nOW? iT lOOKS lIKE mOST oF tHEM wERE rEALLY jUST oUT sHOPPING

i disagree with you RRH...

Where you from?

[POLL]

pOSTS aRE wINGING tHEIR wAY fROM dUBLIN, tHANKS tO tHE cROSS bORDER dEAL


do you follow the dubs around?

[devvy devverson]

Timmy Mc Carthy has been a great servant for cork, dunno what timmy your on about but it aint the one who gave his all for cork...

hes dead fuckin right. the only good game i can ever remember him having is when he came on as a sub against tipp.... he scored a goal and something... fair play.... ill accept the fact he could be used as a sub because of that performance.
every time timmy started he was a one trick pony.... running around in circles around the corner flag trying to confuse the opposition

[POLL]

hes dead fuckin right. the only good game i can ever remember him having is when he came on as a sub against tipp.... he scored a goal and something... fair play.... ill accept the fact he could be used as a sub because of that performance.
every time timmy started he was a one trick pony.... running around in circles around the corner flag trying to confuse the opposition


5 Munster Titles ...
3 All-Ireland medals...

Why dont u ask D. O'Grady and J. Allen how they rate him?

[Redshirter]

hes dead fuckin right. the only good game i can ever remember him having is when he came on as a sub against tipp.... he scored a goal and something... fair play.... ill accept the fact he could be used as a sub because of that performance.
every time timmy started he was a one trick pony.... running around in circles around the corner flag trying to confuse the opposition

And you forgot to mention running away from the ball was the strongest point of his game

[POLL]

Part of Brian Corcorans interview.
While this unit might not be the greatest or prettiest exponents of forward play, they've redefined it. "The day of just lobbing balls down on halfback lines is gone. So you need to create movement and you need guys who are fit and who can run. Timmy [McCarthy] is one of those guys. He has no problem taking a wing back for a run and opening up space for Niall and giving Donal Og [Cusack] options. Cian is the same.

He'll run all day for you."

It's that selflessness that Corcoran loves about Timmy McCarthy. All the time that people were claiming McCarthy's limitations were holding Cork back, Corcoran felt Cork's limitations were compromising McCarthy.

"I've said it all along, Timmy was always playing on the wrong wing. This is the first year in ages he's playing at 10 but it makes a huge difference going to catch a ball. When he had been playing on the left wing and outside his man, he had no way of guarding his hand.

If you can't protect your hand, you're not going to catch it. Now Timmy can protect his hand and catch.

The other thing about Timmy is the support he offers. I know if a ball goes out to the wing and it beats Joe and I have it, Timmy will be bursting through to take the pass."

[devvy devverson]

5 Munster Titles ...
3 All-Ireland medals...

Why dont u ask D. O'Grady and J. Allen how they rate him?

i might be wrong but i think one of the selectors was related to him

i saw enough of timmy to make up my own mind

medals and titles dont make a good player.... and no player wins 5 munsters and 3 all irelands.... the fuckin team does ya clown

[devvy devverson]

Part of Brian Corcorans interview.
While this unit might not be the greatest or prettiest exponents of forward play, they've redefined it. "The day of just lobbing balls down on halfback lines is gone. So you need to create movement and you need guys who are fit and who can run. Timmy [McCarthy] is one of those guys. He has no problem taking a wing back for a run and opening up space for Niall and giving Donal Og [Cusack] options. Cian is the same.

He'll run all day for you."

It's that selflessness that Corcoran loves about Timmy McCarthy. All the time that people were claiming McCarthy's limitations were holding Cork back, Corcoran felt Cork's limitations were compromising McCarthy.

"I've said it all along, Timmy was always playing on the wrong wing. This is the first year in ages he's playing at 10 but it makes a huge difference going to catch a ball. When he had been playing on the left wing and outside his man, he had no way of guarding his hand.

If you can't protect your hand, you're not going to catch it. Now Timmy can protect his hand and catch.

The other thing about Timmy is the support he offers. I know if a ball goes out to the wing and it beats Joe and I have it, Timmy will be bursting through to take the pass."

thats the polite way of saying "timmy runs around the corner flag".
the cork team saw it all the time in training and got over it before the games started. the other teams were pissing themselves laughing while cork scored

[POLL]

thats the polite way of saying "timmy runs around the corner flag".
the cork team saw it all the time in training and got over it before the games started. the other teams were pissing themselves laughing while cork scored


Timmys well worth his place in the panel this yr..full stop....we have no forwards....

the 'hero' and co. are not up to it....i watched him (hero) in the park, got one good point but the centre back had a field day...

[GOD]

I had some great moments shouting at Timmy, both positive and negative. Nice fella by all accounts, but time to move on.

[billymac]

Timmy Mac is well worth a place in the starting 15 for cork. Most under rated hurler in cork. Has become much more effective with age

[devvy devverson]

clearly a bunch of castlelyons men here.
Timmys well worth his place in the panel this yr..full stop....we have no forwards....

the 'hero' and co. are not up to it....i watched him (hero) in the park, got one good point but the centre back had a field day...
i was in ennis and PUC so i saw it myself. ive already relayed my thoughts in other threads ..... and on this thread already ive said we need 4 new forwards.... NOT 5

[delzer]

timmy mac is a good option to have on the bench.

if does anything at all when he plays he always creates space when he runs at the backs its just his finishing like many other forwards is dodgy

[Lapsy Pa]

Q. Does the inclusion of Timmy Mac improve the Cork panel?

A. Yes

[devvy devverson]

Q. Does the inclusion of Timmy Mac improve the Cork panel?

A. Yes

fair play.... i see the bigger picture.
as i said he might be good off the bench..... and he has experience to relay to the younger players.
i wont be happy if he starts any game though.

[Rebelred]

hes dead fuckin right. the only good game i can ever remember him having is when he came on as a sub against tipp.... he scored a goal and something... fair play.... ill accept the fact he could be used as a sub because of that performance.
every time timmy started he was a one trick pony.... running around in circles around the corner flag trying to confuse the opposition
missed the 99 All Ireland final did ya?
Or the 06 semi final against Waterford?

[devvy devverson]

missed the 99 All Ireland final did ya?
Or the 06 semi final against Waterford?

if he stuck out for me then i would have mentioned it.

[wayne gayle]

What was that game where Timmy smiled to the crowd afetr he scored a point?
Twas the year before last I think.

[Youghal Exile]

Part of Brian Corcorans interview.
While this unit might not be the greatest or prettiest exponents of forward play, they've redefined it. "The day of just lobbing balls down on halfback lines is gone. So you need to create movement and you need guys who are fit and who can run. Timmy [McCarthy] is one of those guys. He has no problem taking a wing back for a run and opening up space for Niall and giving Donal Og [Cusack] options. Cian is the same.

He'll run all day for you."

It's that selflessness that Corcoran loves about Timmy McCarthy. All the time that people were claiming McCarthy's limitations were holding Cork back, Corcoran felt Cork's limitations were compromising McCarthy.

"I've said it all along, Timmy was always playing on the wrong wing. This is the first year in ages he's playing at 10 but it makes a huge difference going to catch a ball. When he had been playing on the left wing and outside his man, he had no way of guarding his hand.

If you can't protect your hand, you're not going to catch it. Now Timmy can protect his hand and catch.

The other thing about Timmy is the support he offers. I know if a ball goes out to the wing and it beats Joe and I have it, Timmy will be bursting through to take the pass."

That post represents everything i love about Timmy McCarthy.What a workhorse and what a legend.

[Redshirter]

i might be wrong but i think one of the selectors was related to him

i saw enough of timmy to make up my own mind

medals and titles dont make a good player.... and no player wins 5 munsters and 3 all irelands.... the fuckin team does ya clown

I always guessed that there was somthing personal in how he was been selected game after game after game despite being a total wate of time and space on the team it was his relative in the selectors who was keeping him on the Cork team

[Youghal Exile]

I always guessed that there was somthing personal in how he was been selected game after game after game despite being a total wate of time and space on the team it was his relative in the selectors who was keeping him on the Cork team

Were you at the 99 all ireland final,the 04 match against tipp,the 06 semi final against waterford,the 05 all ireland final or last years match against tipp or were you pissed out of your head?

[devvy devverson]

Were you at the 99 all ireland final,the 04 match against tipp,the 06 semi final against waterford,the 05 all ireland final or last years match against tipp or were you pissed out of your head?

i was
he stood out in the 04 game. he didnt start.... you know why??? consistantly shit performances. great game that day.... as a sub.
ive no problem with him staying a sub, and if introduced i genuinely hope he has the same impact as he did that day.
for all the games hes had ...... one "out of the blue" performance.

[Rebelred]

i was
he stood out in the 04 game. he didnt start.... you know why??? consistantly shit performances. great game that day.... as a sub.
ive no problem with him staying a sub, and if introduced i genuinely hope he has the same impact as he did that day.
for all the games hes had ...... one "out of the blue" performance.

ever notice that his markers never have a good day either, wonder why that is

[Youghal Exile]

ever notice that his markers never have a good day either, wonder why that is

He did a great job on Tommy Walsh in the 04 all ireland.

[Langer Dan]

missed the 99 All Ireland final did ya?
Or the 06 semi final against Waterford?

Timmy's return in 10 years of intercounty hurling works out at less than a point a game.
For any forward this pretty poor.

He works hard but his finishing is hopeless.
I'm inclined to agree that he's probably worth his place on the panel and if he makes it more power to him but for people to make out he's anything other than a workhorse is deluded.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking him but his scoring return is very poor.

[CORKBHOY]

Most people seem to agree here in the sense that:

We know Timmy isn't the answer to all our problems in the forward line but surely is worthy of a place on the panel. If after a few training sessions and maybe a run in a challenge game (surely DW is working behind the scenes to organise several challenge games between the end of the League and start of Championship) DW and his selectors think he's worthy of a place on the panel going into the Championship then well and good, if not, so be it.

[Lapsy Pa]

ever notice that his markers never have a good day either, wonder why that is

Ask Tony Browne. Never a good game off Timmy Mac.

[devvy devverson]

After the game on Sunday that showed our forwards are lacking intercounty 'touch' (and once incident where Hero didn't bother persuing one of Limerick's backs after he lost a tussle) we need to have a forward who acts like a back.

Timmy gets in the way and harrasses backs trying to clear and mop up ball. Anyone with any hurling knowledge knows that Timmy's strength lies in that rather than squeezing points over from the sideline with two minutes to go. I'm a big fan of him anyway.

go and fla him so

[Rebelred]

Timmy's return in 10 years of intercounty hurling works out at less than a point a game.
For any forward this pretty poor.

He works hard but his finishing is hopeless.
I'm inclined to agree that he's probably worth his place on the panel and if he makes it more power to him but for people to make out he's anything other than a workhorse is deluded.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking him but his scoring return is very poor.

wouldn't disagree that the return is poor, but there is more to being a wing forward these days than scoring aswell. What gets my wind up about people critcising Timmy is that they seem to do it without knowing why, without looking at the game properly.

Now that Timmy isn't on the scene as much, I've noticed Pat Cronin, a young lad with bundles of ability and potential, seems to be taking up the abuse mantle... maybe it's the white helmet, people don't realise it's not Timmy ;)

[mire]

wouldn't disagree that the return is poor, but there is more to being a wing forward these days than scoring aswell. What gets my wind up about people critcising Timmy is that they seem to do it without knowing why, without looking at the game properly.

Now that Timmy isn't on the scene as much, I've noticed Pat Cronin, a young lad with bundles of ability and potential, seems to be taking up the abuse mantle... maybe it's the white helmet, people don't realise it's not Timmy ;)

yeah - imagine the first day pa turned up for training and timmy sees him, sees the opportunity and throws him one of his white helmets and says "that's for you pa, wear it with pride" [timmy delighted] - people mistakenly abusing pa cronin when they think they are giving timmy grief - people think timmy not that bad anymore cos they feel guilty about givin out about timmy - timmy's stock rises to the extent that if he gets dropped, there'll be 20 k on pana marchin demanding his return, all players go on strike, except pa cronin, who plays kilkenny on his own, does well enough, considering.

seriously, this will be a very important year for timmy imo. he is the type of player kilkenny dont like coming up against. pa cronin is [at them moment] the type of player they love playing against.

[Langer Dan]

wouldn't disagree that the return is poor, but there is more to being a wing forward these days than scoring aswell. What gets my wind up about people critcising Timmy is that they seem to do it without knowing why, without looking at the game properly.

Now that Timmy isn't on the scene as much, I've noticed Pat Cronin, a young lad with bundles of ability and potential, seems to be taking up the abuse mantle... maybe it's the white helmet, people don't realise it's not Timmy ;)

heh heh heh

big year for Pat alright, a lot of people unfairly made their minds up about him after last summer. Hopefully he can step up.

[BarackSt.Obama]

what is going on with Brian Murphy. Read somewhere in the rags that he was condidering his future along with Deane and Timmy Mc Carthy?

[Langer Dan]

Well he suffers badly from Migraine so maybe he's had enough of the pressure of IC aggravating it?

Sure we'l see, I would like to see him back in the red jersey but we'l have to wait and see.

[Redshirter]

I said it before last July to be exact and i am saying it again now that Timmy Mac is useless

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136 333

[Paddy Wagon]

5 Munster Titles ...
3 All-Ireland medals...

Why dont u ask D. O'Grady and J. Allen how they rate him?

And JBM & Tom Cashman & Bertie óg (Ill leave Gerald out of it). Won his first All Ireland under JBM! Timmy was a great servant to Cork oveer the past decade.. Says alot when last 6 Cork managers all had timmy starting year in year out! He's had his day but some of the guys here giving out about him really hav'nt got a clue! Timmy works his bollix off every game he plays, and anyone who has played hurling to a half decent standard will know how valuable a player like him is to a team...
Hurlers on the ditch make me laugh!!

[BarackSt.Obama]

Well thats a serious loss for us if thats the case. A great man marker with a fantastic work eithic...worrying

[BlueSkies]

Paging emurf

[Coin]

I said it before last July to be exact and i am saying it again now that Timmy Mac is useless

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136 333
You can keep saying it. You'll still be wrong.

[rebelicecreamman]

Didnt see a paper today. Is this a news story or just an excuse for a thread?

I hope it is true. There have been few more honest servants to cork hurling. Timmy mac may have been one of the least talented hurlers in terms of stickwork, but he more than made up for this in terms of character, teamwork, unselfishness, and superb athleticism. As pointed out previously, no less than six managers saw fit to start him for cork in the championship. He brings something different to the current forwards, and I would be delighted to see him back.

[devvy devverson]

ever notice that his markers never have a good day either, wonder why that is

by having a pretty easy time of keeping him virtually scoreless?????
go way and cop on willa

[stevetharlear]

Great servant my arse , he was ok at the start but for most of his playing days for Cork he was worse than useless


Just showing yourself to have absolutely no clue about hurling there lad. Timmy has taken stick all his career from nomarks like yourself, and still has played his way onto the team every season. I'm sure you cheered his substitution vs Tipp last year as well did ya, when he was our best forward.

Welcome back Timmy biy!

[stevetharlear]

by having a pretty easy time of keeping him virtually scoreless?????
go way and cop on willa

Sure if that's your criteria for a good forward, then we'll have to get rid of the lot of them bar Ben.

[teddybenji]

i for one was always screaming at timmy when he hit a wide but boy he is a tryer and we need him in the squad at least..
If only to nurse along the younger guys and appoint his successor just like frank will

[Youghal Exile]

If you want fancy points Ben O'Connor is your man.Timmys game is all about hustling and bustling,making the half backs life a misery and if he gets a point or two that a welcome bonus.

[devvy devverson]

Sure if that's your criteria for a good forward, then we'll have to get rid of the lot of them bar Ben.
jerry would make the cut too..... possibly naughton also.

i did say in an earlier post that we need 4 new forwards.... and i still believe it. clare half backs destoyed our half forward line. limerick half backs destroyed our half forward line. the rare occasion the ball reached the full forwards THEY MUST BE ON THEIR TOES but failed miserably to take advantage of glaring chances.
timmy "freeing up" a player by running around wouldnt help matters. they cannot take advantage of getting free.