Do you want Northern Ireland to qualify for the World Cup in South Africa?

[Poison]

Do you want Northern Ireland to qualify for the World Cup in South Africa.

Poll to follow.

Yes or No

I think they are a bunch of bigots and my answer is No..

[MonTheHoops]

Sweet Jesus no. Knuckledraggers.

[ItIsYeah]

Hell No.

Dirty racist bigotted cunts.
Theey are the international branch of Rangers FC

[devvy devverson]

yes and no
yes cos id like them to
no cos alot of their supporters are scumbuckets.

[Eoin]

Definitely not, their fans don't deserve it. Absolute scum most of them.

[BarackSt.Obama]

out of interest what national anthem do NI play?

[Lapsy Pa]

Absolutely not. Do you know what they think of us "Free Staters" down here.

Besides, Poland are only 3 points behind with a game in hand, with that lot to play at home. The second placed tram are only a point behind with two games in hand.

Hopefully they won't be polluting South Africa with their own special brand of loathing and bigotry.

[jimmy magee]

Definitely not, their fans don't deserve it. Absolute scum most of them.

That's a pretty sweeping statement.....

[Lapsy Pa]

out of interest what national anthem do NI play?

God save the queen. What else?

[ItIsYeah]

out of interest what national anthem do ni play?

gstq

[TrickyBrick]

fuck no!

[Eoin]

That's a pretty sweeping statement.....

I said most of them, I'm sure there are genuine fans up there, but the majority of them are bigots. Death threats to their own player for playing for a particular club in a foreign country? Throwing coins at the ref?

And need I remind you of the sectarian chanting against us when we played there in 93/94?

[eire_sai]

After the way they treated Neil Lennon they can go fuck themselves

[ItIsYeah]

Just this week prior to the Poland home match:
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00766/RSNA2706A-380_766351a.jpg

And a few years ago:
Driven out by hate

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38211000/jpg/_38211563_lennonin.j pg Lennon bows out of international football


Why the Celtic footballer Neil Lennon failed to turn out to captain Northern Ireland, his national side, against Cyprus last night, and why he says he will never play for his country again, seems as much about perception as reality.
He's a Catholic playing for a club team traditionally supported by Catholics. A call threatening he would be killed if he played for Northern Ireland -- traditionally supported by Protestants -- was received by the switchboard at BBC Belfast from someone purporting to come from the Loyalist paramilitary group, the LVF.
But such threats are usually only taken seriously when they are accompanied by a recognised code word. This call wasn't like that, but police nevertheless decided to advise Mr. Lennon to consider his safety. The LVF this morning said the threat was a hoax.
Neil Lennon has had plenty of experience facing up to sectarian football crowds. When he joined Celtic eighteen-months ago he was booed by the Northern Ireland crowd. In a newspaper interview then he called for an end to religious divisiveness in football and what in the context of Ulster politics was a brave suggestion -- the creation of an all-Ireland team. After Wednesday's death threat, he told reporters he decided enough was enough.
Neil Lennon's decision is immensely important to Northern Ireland's political future - the Northern Ireland minister Jane Kennedy told us that it was shameful that such a fine player was driven out of the game by "sectarian bigots"

[afeencalleddan]

Keep yer hair on lads, 6 of their points were gained against San Marino. It's all pie in the sky. They're in a false position in the table.

[MonTheHoops]

they're all off to the big fire anyways.

[STEVIEG]

The fans are bigots and utter cunts many of them

But i would have little problem with England and Spain being there so i think it would be great to have the North there too

Tough ask though

[ho chi feen]

Yeah fuck it, why not.

They weren't always such scummers either... my aunt was with their lot at the 82 world cup, and they were more than happy to have southerners in their midst.

An all-Ireland league (and possibly team) will come about in the next 10-15 years, so we'll need a stronger Norn Iron.

[afeencalleddan]

Yeah fuck it, why not.

They weren't always such scummers either... my aunt was with their lot at the 82 world cup, and they were more than happy to have southerners in their midst.

An all-Ireland league (and possibly team) will come about in the next 10-15 years, so we'll need a stronger Norn Iron.A bold prophecy.

An all-Irish team will never come about IMO.

[STEVIEG]

A bold prophecy.

An all-Irish team will never come about IMO.

the best we can hope for is an all ARISH team

[shamoverhere]

An all-Irish team will never come about IMO.

as long as they keep shittin in our shoes and we keep pissin in thier bovril...

[afeencalleddan]

Is it even possible that FIFA would allow it anyway even if the will to do it was strong? I mean they are a completely different nation. I couldn't see Haiti and the Dominican Rebuplic being allowed to do it for instance. Wouldn't the island have to be politically unified as one country before FIFA could recognise it?

[ho chi feen]

A bold prophecy.

An all-Irish team will never come about IMO.

Yeah.

I just put down the AIL bit, and it occurred and AI team would surely have to follow- in terms of FIFA, at least.

Neither domestic league look viable at present, so a union will have to come about there at any rate.

[ho chi feen]

Is it even possible that FIFA would allow it anyway even if the will to do it was strong? I mean they are a completely different nation. I couldn't see Haiti and the Dominican Rebuplic being allowed to do it for instance. Wouldn't the island have to be politically unified as one country before FIFA could recognise it?

British isles are a special entity within FIFA though.

[afeencalleddan]

British isles are a special entity within FIFA though.I would have thought that E, S, W & NI would fall under that and could amalgamate as a British team at the drop of a hat. Not us though, we are a Republic afterall.

Is there a link to this special case that one could peruse?

[ho chi feen]

I would have thought that E, S, W & NI would fall under that and could amalgamate as a British team at the drop of a hat. Not us though, we are a Republic afterall.

Is there a link to this special case that one could peruse?

Heh heh heh... just that, as the home of the football, the Yookay has historically been allowed a fair degree of latitude within FIFA on its perverse course of having 4 home associations.

It's hardly a leap of logic, and might well be foisted upon us should our leagues amalgamate.

[Demons till I die]

Getting back to the original question ...no i hope they dont qualify.

I remember in 1990 when an RTE reporter went into the IFA social club on the shankill road and asked a guy sitting there if he hoped Ireland would beat Holland that night . His bitterness was there for all to see and he couldnt let politics out of it...he said

" being this 1990 ..the 300th anniversary of the battle of the Boyne it would be nice to see the team in Orange win "


I mean how fucking retarded is that .

[RebelBhoy]

I think its unfair of FIFA to ask Ireland to field two sides. Granted, the regional representative side did well at the weekend and again last night, but some of those lads deserve a call up to the senior squad who travelled to play against Italy.

[Lamps]

I want the Nordies in a play off. I would love it.


LOVE IT

[Demons till I die]

I want the Nordies in a play off. I would love it.


LOVE IT


Wouldnt mind that meself

[duffer31]

sure why not. he dutch are orange and we love them.....

[Eoin]

I want the Nordies in a play off. I would love it.


LOVE IT

Christ it would be EPIC, they'd have to come down to Croker and God Save The Queen would be played...........

[Rebelred]

I want the Nordies in a play off. I would love it.


LOVE IT

2nd Leg in Croker would be epic

[Lamps]

plus we've got real GAA muckers on the team now like the Hunts, SheasY, Doyler, Shane Long.

They'll hate em and would love to do over that scum on the real home turf

[Demons till I die]

Christ it would be EPIC, they'd have to come down to Croker and God Save The Queen would be played...........

Fuck that let them play Danny Boy ...and fuck off

[Rebelred]

Going on this:

The nine group-winners will qualify directly, while the best eight of the nine second-placed teams will contest home and away play-off matches for the remaining four places.[5] In determining the best eight second-placed teams, the results against teams finishing last in the six-team groups will not be counted for consistency between the five- and six-team groups.


if there anybody out there bored enough to work out how those 8 second place teams are working out at the moment?

[Eoin]

1 Hungary 13
8 Republic of Ireland 12
7 France 10
5 Bosnia and Herzegovina 9
4 Russia 9
3 Slovakia 9
2 Switzerland 7
9 Scotland 7
6 Croatia 4

[Eoin]

Someone posted that on another forum, dunno how accurate it is

[Eoin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_ qualification_(UEFA) #Ranking_of_second-placed_teams

[steve sanders]

i'd be happy to see them make it. it would show a small side can still qualify and if we make it too, the more beatable sides in the tournament the better.

the playoff scene mentioned above would truly be EPIC.

[northmallexile]

Success generally means that the scumbag element gets diluted, so that's reason enough to wish them well. Even if it is a byproduct of bandwagoneering.

Anyway, from what I've seen (and, granted, there are probably people here with more direct experience than me), the IFA do seem to be genuinely trying to combat sectarianism.

[Lapsy Pa]

1 Hungary 13 beatable
8 Republic of Ireland 12
7 France 10
5 Bosnia and Herzegovina 9 beatable
4 Russia 9
3 Slovakia 9 beatable
2 Switzerland 7 beatable
9 Scotland 7 beatable
6 Croatia 4

The groups are only half way completed so that picture will change.

What about the Spain and Turkey group, Group 5 I think. One of them will be in the playoffs and would preferably avoided.

[steve sanders]

The groups are only half way completed so that picture will change.

What about the Spain and Turkey group, Group 5 I think. One of them will be in the playoffs and would preferably avoided.

spain have a 100% record so it won't be them...

[Rebelred]

The groups are only half way completed so that picture will change.

What about the Spain and Turkey group, Group 5 I think. One of them will be in the playoffs and would preferably avoided.

Hungary are seriously threatening Portugals case for the runners up spot in group 1. Some of the groups will obviously chop and change as things progress.

[ho chi feen]

I want the Nordies in a play off. I would love it.


LOVE IT


Yup.

We'd be sorted then.

[Bennyton]

would love to meet em in the play off's anyway,thought the playoffs had a mix of euro teams with asia, playin the likes of iran wouldn't be too bayd either like!

[Rebelred]

would love to meet em in the play off's anyway,thought the playoffs had a mix of euro teams with asia, playin the likes of iran wouldn't be too bayd either like!

nope not this time. 13 european teams, 9 group winners, 4 from playoffs, 8 best runners up from groups make up the playoffs. No trip to Tehran this time

[goosed]

I was talking to a chap in the Belfast office today (happens to be Protestant) for whatever that is worth and he watchedthe England game last night - said he couldnt be bothered watching Norn Iron as they are so boring! He didnt watch us either though but i decided not to bring that up.

As for an Ireland team - that would be great - break down some of the barriers that divide us -

[northmallexile]

nope not this time. 13 european teams, 9 group winners, 4 from playoffs, 8 best runners up from groups make up the playoffs. No trip to Tehran this time

Yeah, it's worth remembering that the worst runner-up won't even get a play-off spot. I'd say some Scottish fans in particular could get a land when they figure that one out.

[Cannabis]

Could players from the north refuse to play for them cause they ain't digging british rule and god save the queen by the sex pistols being played and opt to play for the republic instead? That kid Gibson was born and rasied in derry but hes playing for us. Probaly has a father or mother from the republic but still if you're born there and considered yourself proper irish and didn't want to play for them could you join the great republic of Ireland instead?

[Eoin]

Could players from the north refuse to play for them cause they ain't digging british rule and god save the queen by the sex pistols being played and opt to play for the republic instead? That kid Gibson was born and rasied in derry but hes playing for us. Probaly has a father or mother from the republic but still if you're born there and considered yourself proper irish and didn't want to play for them could you join the great republic of Ireland instead?

I think if you're born on the island of Ireland you qualify for both.

[Cannabis]

Oh in that case then I hope they don't quailify

[Youghal Exile]

Yes.

[volunteer]

Because they sing that annoying shite, "Where not Brazil where NI."
Because their fans often chant for their notion of Ulster,
Because their fans intimidate catholics who might want to playfor them,
Because they are the most bigoted sectarian vile cunts in football,
I'm going to have to say 'no' on this one.

Besides, solvakia or whoever they beat the other night have two games in hand. Would love to get the cunts in a qualifier though....

[DogTheLangerHunter]

Yes

[Loftydog]

Well some of the Polish fans did not excatly endear themselves last time out at the euros in 2008.

The Spanish fans have had previous with racism

Likewise the Croats

[northmallexile]

Well some of the Polish fans did not excatly endear themselves last time out at the euros in 2008.

The Spanish fans have had previous with racism

Likewise the Croats

Not to mention gobshites booing Rangers players (or guys mistaken for Rangers players) who have the temerity to play against our brave boys in green.

Query: have Rangers ever fielded an Irish international? I know it'd have been unlikely pre-Mo Johnston, and I don't recall one since. Be curious to see would there be any parallels to the Neil Lennon situation.

[Eoin]

Query: have Rangers ever fielded an Irish international? I know it'd have been unlikely pre-Mo Johnston, and I don't recall one since. Be curious to see would there be any parallels to the Neil Lennon situation.

I doubt that they have, but if an Irish international did play for them, I'd be fairly certain that he would be booed at Lansdowne road by some.

[POL]

Yeah fuck it, why not.

They weren't always such scummers either... my aunt was with their lot at the 82 world cup, and they were more than happy to have southerners in their midst.

An all-Ireland league (and possibly team) will come about in the next 10-15 years, so we'll need a stronger Norn Iron.in your dreams

[POL]

they are a loyalist team for a loyalist people, I'd prefer to see England win the world cup than those cunts even making a play off

[Eoin]

they are a loyalist team for a loyalist people, I'd prefer to see England win the world cup than those cunts even making a play off

repped!!

[POL]

redneck wasp types stuck in a timewarp 400 years ago, the state of them

[Murdock]

http://images3.wikia.nocook ie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/b/b4/Ian_Paisley_No.png/180px-Ian_Paisley_No.png

Most of the catlicks vote for the Shinners. Most of the prods vote for the DUP. Conclusion: most of them are cunts. One side is as bigotted as the other. And I don't think anyone has been to Oxegen or the Electric Picnic and not been driven demented by the fuckers at some stage.:)


Northern Ireland are one of the teams I hate to see do well, because of their fans. Rangers, Nazio, Zenit St. Petersburg (can't have any black players on the team, cos they know the fans wouldn't have it) are a few others. Not too gone on the Russians in general either - serious amount of neo-nazis there and they elected Vladimir Putin FFS.

[volunteer]

they are a loyalist team for a loyalist people, I'd prefer to see England win the world cup than those cunts even making a play off

With you 100% on this one. Cunts should be banned like South Africa were in the 80's

[volunteer]

http://images3.wikia.nocook ie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/b/b4/Ian_Paisley_No.png/180px-Ian_Paisley_No.png

Most of the catlicks vote for the Shinners. Most of the prods vote for the DUP. Conclusion: most of them are cunts. One side is as bigotted as the other. And I don't think anyone has been to Oxegen or the Electric Picnic and not been driven demented by the fuckers at some stage.:)


Northern Ireland are one of the teams I hate to see do well, because of their fans. Rangers, Nazio, Zenit St. Petersburg (can't have any black players on the team, cos they know the fans wouldn't have it) are a few others. Not too gone on the Russians in general either - serious amount of neo-nazis there and they elected Vladimir Putin FFS.

In fairness Loyalism has the edge on being bigoted when compared to our Shinners.

[raZor]

Not to mention gobshites booing Rangers players (or guys mistaken for Rangers players) who have the temerity to play against our brave boys in green.

Query: have Rangers ever fielded an Irish international? I know it'd have been unlikely pre-Mo Johnston, and I don't recall one since. Be curious to see would there be any parallels to the Neil Lennon situation.

Alan Maybury would probably be the closest I suppose, being a self confessed Rangers fan. Is he still playing for Hearts?

[CORKBHOY]

Alan Maybury would probably be the closest I suppose, being a self confessed Rangers fan. Is he still playing for Hearts?

I never heard of Maybury being a Rangers fan.

He went to Leicester after Hearts, then to Aberdeen.

[raZor]

I never heard of Maybury being a Rangers fan.

He went to Leicester after Hearts, then to Aberdeen.

Can't remember where I read it, but I'm almost a 100% sure thats the case. He's from a Dublin Protestant family. Must have been in a paper because he was talking about keeping the support on the downlow.

[KD Langer]

where is the i couldn't give a flying fuck option?????

[CORKBHOY]

Can't remember where I read it, but I'm almost a 100% sure thats the case. He's from a Dublin Protestant family. Must have been in a paper because he was talking about keeping the support on the downlow.

That's very "downlow" that is,

Having it published in a newspaper for all to see!!!

[CORKBHOY]

where is the i couldn't give a flying fuck option?????

I think by not voting or contributing to the thread is fairly evident that one doesn't give a flying fuck.

[raZor]

That's very "downlow" that is,

Having it published in a newspaper for all to see!!!

When he was younger obviosuly ya pedantic clown! He hardly cares now I'd imagine.

He's now playing for Colchester.

[CORKBHOY]

When he was younger obviosuly ya pedantic clown! He hardly cares now I'd imagine.

He's now playing for Colchester.

Relax biy, not trying to be pedantic. You said nothing about when he was younger.

It reminded me of a teacher on Joe Duffy one day trying to get his point across about an upcoming strike and he said:

"Joe, between you me and the wall....."

Joe had to interrupt and tell him it wasn't between them and the wall as there was half a million people listening.

Yer man didn't finish his point.

Twas hilarious.

I thought Maybury was doing the same thing, telling some reporter he followed Rangers but was trying to keep it quiet...

[Poison]

Alan Maybury was a Rangers supporter growing up and so is his younger brother too.

[RebelBhoy]

Alan Kernaghan was born in Yorkshire but raised in the North to a family of a Unionist tradition.

[Lapsy Pa]

Alan Kernaghan was born in Yorkshire but raised in the North to a family of a Unionist tradition.

That would explain his performances for Ireland so.

He is now a youth development officer for the huns.

[northmallexile]

Alan Kernaghan was born in Yorkshire but raised in the North to a family of a Unionist tradition.

Yeah, wasn't there some controversy over that? By all rights he ought to have played for the North, but he argued that as his grandparents were born prior to partition, he was entitled to play for the Republic. Purely in order to join the more successful side, like. I remember the IFA not being happy.

[Murdock]

In fairness Loyalism has the edge on being bigoted when compared to our Shinners.

Why? The Provos at least matched their loyalist counterparts killing for killing during the troubles (you can say a lot of things about Paisley, but he didn't actually kill people.) And it is their ilk who are causing all the current violence and murders (with a bit more popular support than some would like to admit, I think).
My ol' man is friendly with a guy from Belfast. He's about as personable a person you could meet, until you switch the topic of conversation to politics/religion and you realise he is a complete and utter bigot. He truly loathes all Protestants with every fibre of his being.

[Lamps]

Why? The Provos at least matched their loyalist counterparts killing for killing during the troubles (you can say a lot of things about Paisley, but he didn't actually kill people.) And it is their ilk who are causing all the current violence and murders (with a bit more popular support than some would like to admit, I think).
My ol' man is friendly with a guy from Belfast. He's about as personable a person you could meet, until you switch the topic of conversation to politics/religion and you realise he is a complete and utter bigot. He truly loathes all Protestants with every fibre of his being.

And have you confronted him or do you prefer the oul talk about it on the INTERNET approach?

[CORKBHOY]

Why? The Provos at least matched their loyalist counterparts killing for killing during the troubles (you can say a lot of things about Paisley, but he didn't actually kill people.) And it is their ilk who are causing all the current violence and murders (with a bit more popular support than some would like to admit, I think).
My ol' man is friendly with a guy from Belfast. He's about as personable a person you could meet, until you switch the topic of conversation to politics/religion and you realise he is a complete and utter bigot. He truly loathes all Protestants with every fibre of his being.

Any man who loathes somebody because of their religion is an utter cunt.


FACT.

[RebelBhoy]

FACTAMUNDO.

This thread was always headed in this direction wasn't it.

[jimmy magee]

This thread is full of bigots and hatred in my opinion

[raZor]

Relax biy, not trying to be pedantic. You said nothing about when he was younger.

It reminded me of a teacher on Joe Duffy one day trying to get his point across about an upcoming strike and he said:

"Joe, between you me and the wall....."

Joe had to interrupt and tell him it wasn't between them and the wall as there was half a million people listening.

Yer man didn't finish his point.

Twas hilarious.

I thought Maybury was doing the same thing, telling some reporter he followed Rangers but was trying to keep it quiet...

no YOU relax.
The clown was meant in jest I was missing a few of these fellas --> !!!!

[Youghal Exile]

I wish our Orange brothers all the best.Northern Ireland is a unionist state and the vast majority of it's population are unionist.Frankly i think the bigger biggots are Anto and the lads.

[northmallexile]

I wish our Orange brothers all the best.Northern Ireland is a unionist state and the vast majority of it's population are unionist.Frankly i think the bigger biggots are Anto and the lads.

53%? Hardly a vast majority.

(Of course, I'm conflating Unionist with Protestant here, which is not necessarily correct.)

[volunteer]

Why? The Provos at least matched their loyalist counterparts killing for killing during the troubles (you can say a lot of things about Paisley, but he didn't actually kill people.) And it is their ilk who are causing all the current violence and murders (with a bit more popular support than some would like to admit, I think).
My ol' man is friendly with a guy from Belfast. He's about as personable a person you could meet, until you switch the topic of conversation to politics/religion and you realise he is a complete and utter bigot. He truly loathes all Protestants with every fibre of his being.
Actually the Provo's out killed everyone else in the conflict....not sure how that is relevant here. If you think Paisley spewing his poison and organizing strikes when a settlement had been agreed isn't responsible for people being killed then you are naieve.

[POL]

Actually the Provo's out killed everyone else in the conflict....not sure how that is relevant here. If you think Paisley spewing his poison and organizing strikes when a settlement had been agreed isn't responsible for people being killed then you are naieve.yeah well done, they killed more civillans than anyone else aswell, heros one and all

[volunteer]

Either way, what is your point?
Isn't this thread about NI and the world cup?

[POL]

Either way, what is your point?
Isn't this thread about NI and the world cup?by 93 and 94 the UFF and UVF had rattled the shit out of those PIRA scum, like roy keane, they walked out on their country

[Youghal Exile]

by 93 and 94 the UFF and UVF had rattled the shit out of those PIRA scum, like roy keane, they walked out on their country

I always found the loyalist cause more Noble.It was republicans that started the problems in the north and it is republicans trying to stir things up there now.At least instead of mass bombings the uda/uvf would just go into nationalist areas and pick a select target.As the sign on the shankill road said we welcome the surrender of the ira.

[POL]

I always found the loyalist cause more Noble.It was republicans that started the problems in the north and it is republicans trying to stir things up there now.At least instead of mass bombings the uda/uvf would just go into nationalist areas and pick a select target.As the sign on the shankill road said we welcome the surrender of the ira.

I don't like lads who start things they can't finish, like Roy Keane. Look at them now, taking the queens shilling like Keane took Quinns shiling

[volunteer]

Nice try lads but anyone with any knowledge of the conflict knows that it was the bombing of financial targets in London that brought the British to the negotiating table.

Must try harder to rattle folks....


Rugby is a game for Irish Patriots.

[POL]

Nice try lads but anyone with any knowledge of the conflict knows that it was the bombing of financial targets in London that brought the British to the negotiating table.

Must try harder to rattle folks....


Rugby is a game for Irish Patriots.

Johnny Adair's C company alone had the shinners hiding under the bed, scuttering themselves, the secret war of MI5 and M16 had destroyed the scum, sure McGuiness was onto John Major every 10 minutes looking for a way out, without being seen to lose face, thats how the ceasefire (surrender) came about, read a few of Peter Taylors books instead of An Publicht

[volunteer]

Johnny Adair's C company alone had the shinners hiding under the bed, scuttering themselves, the secret war of MI5 and M16 had destroyed the scum, sure McGuiness was onto John Major every 10 minutes looking for a way out, without being seen to lose face, thats how the ceasefire (surrender) came about, read a few of Peter Taylors books instead of An Publicht

Peter Taylor is a protestant writer for a protestant people:wink:

Major would not talk to SF direct before decom, that is one of the reasons why the first ceasfire collapsed.

Must try harder Pol

PIRA conducted a heroic campaign of resistance.
Operations like Warrenpoint were masterstrokes in terms of strategy.

[POL]

Peter Taylor is a protestant writer for a protestant people:wink:

Major would not talk to SF direct before decom, that is one of the reasons why the first ceasfire collapsed.

Must try harder Pol

PIRA conducted a heroic campaign of resistance.
Operations like Warrenpoint were masterstrokes in terms of strategy.

I suppose the likes Martin Dillon is a loyalist as well, keep your Provo version of history for the Sinn fein ard fheis, if you want to see brilliant strategic military action, study the Loughall operation by the SAS, boys against men :lol!:

[volunteer]

I suppose the likes Martin Dillon is a loyalist as well, keep your Provo version of history for the Sinn fein ard fheis, if you want to see brilliant strategic military action, study the Loughall operation by the SAS, boys against men :lol!:

Read some more books POl. The PIRA campaign in south Armagh was one helicopter away from victory. Had PIRA used it's SAm 7 missiles to down helicopters in S. Armagh then essentially the British army would have lost control of the area. They already had to fly in and out and were mostly confined to base. The sniper campaign was another masterstroke in strategy.
I'm sure in years to come it'll be tuaght at military academies on how a smaller less well equipped force can keep superior numbers penned in.

Wonderful heroic resistance.
Heroes to a man. I hope I see a few of them at the next AF.

And as for the SAS, Robert Nairac ....Pedigree Chum:D

[Cannabis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2o5Q5ahKQ

[Cannabis]

Also pol how did the PRIA ''surrender''? They in the first place took up arms as a last resort and when the opportunity came to achieve things through peaceful means they went that way. All they did was put down there arms not quit.

[POL]

Also pol how did the PRIA ''surrender''? They in the first place took up arms as a last resort and when the opportunity came to achieve things through peaceful means they went that way. All they did was put down there arms not quit.what the fuck did they achieve? by 93 they were well beaten, they surrendered albeit in a roundabout manner facilitated by the British propaganda machine in order to save face, and look at them now, taking their money and the Brits still there, darkie Hughes and martin meehan must be spinning in their graves, McGuinness should plugged for treachery

[KD Langer]

or maybe both sides realised that they could never defeat the other. so, after 30 years of bloodshed and heartache for all concerned they decided to negotiate so that all sides could live like human beings.



just a thought.

[Youghal Exile]

or maybe both sides realised that they could never defeat the other. so, after 30 years of bloodshed and heartache for all concerned they decided to negotiate so that all sides could live like human beings.



just a thought.

Post of the thread.

[afeencalleddan]

Bosnia and Herzegovina 9 beatable

The groups are only half way completed so that picture will change.

What about the Spain and Turkey group, Group 5 I think. One of them will be in the playoffs and would preferably avoided.Bosnia are in that group along with Belgium, Spain and Turkey.

I have my eye on Bosnia, they have some very capable players playing at a decent standard with Blazevic as coach. I really do not want Ireland to play whoever comes second in that group if Ireland have to play off.

[Lapsy Pa]

Bosnia are in that group along with Belgium, Spain and Turkey.

I have my eye on Bosnia, they have some very capable players playing at a decent standard with Blazevic as coach. I really do not want Ireland to play whoever comes second in that group if Ireland have to play off.

How often does it happen though, a team has a great tournament ( Turkey in the Euros) and they struggle or fail to qualify for the next tournament.

[oh no]

they are a loyalist team for a loyalist people, I'd prefer to see England win the world cup than those cunts even making a play off

well said!