The Limerick hurlers thread.

[CORKBHOY]

There you go, giss.

Maybe, just maybe you have something to say about your own county's hurlers.


Or maybe not?

[rebelicecreamman]

Bump.

If we could just get that annoying, moronic bluebottle out of one jar and into this one...........

[rebelicecreamman]

Here gissy, gissy, gissy.............

[Funky Munky]

Here gissy, gissy, gissy.............

ha ha.. gwan rebelice... im nearly pissin myself here after reading that :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Cork Feen]

limerick hurlers are crap , discuss............. .....

[CORKBHOY]

limerick hurlers are crap , discuss............. .....

Sure they couldn't even hold onto a lead for 5 mins, they're pure shite. And their supporters don't give a fuck about them. There was only about 50 of them in the Park on Sunday.

[rebelicecreamman]

Ah come on in gissy biy. Theres great craic in here. What'll we talk about first? I know. What about the 1994 AI final?

[Coogee]

Sure they couldn't even hold onto a lead for 5 mins, they're pure shite. And their supporters don't give a fuck about them. There was only about 50 of them in the Park on Sunday.

about the same number of cork fans that were in Cusack park the sunday before so id say

[Funky Munky]

about the same number of cork fans that were in Cusack park the sunday before so id say

ha ha.. you obviously weren't there so...:crazyeye:

[Coogee]

ha ha.. you obviously weren't there so...:crazyeye:

havnt been to a limerick game in years as i am out of the country...they broke my heart in 94 and 96

[Funky Munky]

havnt been to a limerick game in years as i am out of the country...they broke my heart in 94 and 96

i meant the cork/clare game.. there was a lot more than 50 cork fans at that i can tell you..:D

[Youghal Exile]

There too busy stabbing each other to bother talking about hurling.

[Coogee]

i meant the cork/clare game.. there was a lot more than 50 cork fans at that i can tell you..:D

my old man who is from limerick went to cusack park with a cork neighbour and said there were 500-600 cork fans there...disapointing turn out really considering the tunout at the marches

[Coogee]

There too busy stabbing each other to bother talking about hurling.

unlike others who are too busy wumming on the internet instead of going to the game...oh hang on you were getting married that day

[Funky Munky]

my old man who is from limerick went to cusack park with a cork neighbour and said there were 500-600 cork fans there...disapointing turn out really considering the tunout at the marches

sorry now chief but thats crap.. there was at least double that... and you're right it was disappointing considering the turnout at the marches...

[Coogee]

sorry now chief but thats crap.. there was at least double that... and you're right it was disappointing considering the turnout at the marches...

fair enough th eold fella is nearly 70!!!...what was the attendance...was there more cork fans than clare there?

[CORKBHOY]

Just a little bump for any Limerick people on the board. Although they probably prefer Cork hurling. I wouldn't blame them.

[Coogee]

There you go, giss.

Maybe, just maybe you have something to say about your own county's hurlers.


Or maybe not?

they are a fucking disgrace...half of them would struggle to get on the Cork Intermediate team....Where are you going with the likes of Donnacha Sheehan, Donie Ryan and James o Brien...

[rebelicecreamman]

Excuse me. Vitriol and ridicule are reserved around here for men that played in five AIs, winning three.

[tippat]

There too busy stabbing each other to bother talking about hurling.

well come back se you did not change while you were gone

[rebelicecreamman]

well come back se you did not change while you were gone


Ya Youghally, how are things LAST APRIL?

[shez1987]

*bump

A genuine question for Limerick GAA folk, which defeat hurt the most -
1994 where you blew a 5 point lead with 5 minutes ago against Offaly, or 1996 where you were managed to score just 0-14 and lose by a couple of points to an unfancied Wexford team looking for their first title since 1968?

I'm guessing 94 surely?

p.s. I hope you win on Sunday against the Dubs by the way.

[Coogee]

*bump

A genuine question for Limerick GAA folk, which defeat hurt the most -
1994 where you blew a 5 point lead with 5 minutes ago against Offaly, or 1996 where you were managed to score just 0-14 and lose by a couple of points to an unfancied Wexford team looking for their first title since 1968?

I'm guessing 94 surely?

p.s. I hope you win on Sunday against the Dubs by the way.

94 was a total shock to the system...i remember standing on the canal end that day and watching it all fall apart...96 was kinda worse in a way as that was a very average wexford side and im sure we would have beaten them 8/9 times out of ten...at least the offaly team in 94 were a good side who went on to another final in 95 and won another all ireland in 98....

[shez1987]

94 was a total shock to the system...i remember standing on the canal end that day and watching it all fall apart...96 was kinda worse in a way as that was a very average wexford side and im sure we would have beaten them 8/9 times out of ten...at least the offaly team in 94 were a good side who went on to another final in 95 and won another all ireland in 98....

Thanks for the reply, everyone immediately would assume 94 given the way it finished, but as you say that was a very good Offaly team and Limerick did play well on the day only to be caught by a freaky finish. I remember in the build-up to 1996 thinking Limerick's experience from 94 would surely stand to them against, as you say, an average Wexford team appearing in their first final since the 1970s and I couldn't see how Limerick wouldn't win. On the day, you guys just didn't perform at all, which in many ways is the worst way to lose an All-Ireland. Cork have lost a few of them too (82, 92, 99 football, 2007 football)

Anyway good luck on Sunday.

p.s. giss, it is hard to fool you alright I'd say, all that time working with the forensics dept. at the FBI over in D.C. is obviously coming to the fore :???: Don't give up the day job, Sherlock :lol!:

[Coogee]

Thanks for the reply, everyone immediately would assume 94 given the way it finished, but as you say that was a very good Offaly team and Limerick did play well on the day only to be caught by a freaky finish. I remember in the build-up to 1996 thinking Limerick's experience from 94 would surely stand to them against, as you say, an average Wexford team appearing in their first final since the 1970s and I couldn't see how Limerick wouldn't win. On the day, you guys just didn't perform at all, which in many ways is the worst way to lose an All-Ireland. Cork have lost a few of them too (82, 92, 99 football, 2007 football)

Anyway good luck on Sunday.

p.s. giss, it is hard to fool you alright I'd say, all that time working with the forensics dept. at the FBI over in D.C. is obviously coming to the fore :???: Don't give up the day job, Sherlock :lol!:

Limerick have a brutal record in finals...Since our last win in 73 we lost in finals of 74,80,94,96,07...Pat rickswell, Kilmallock,Adare and Ballybrown have all lost all ireland club finals aswell in the last 20 years....

[Youghal Exile]

Poor old Limerick id kill myself if i was from there.:lol:

[rebelicecreamman]

Poor old Limerick id kill myself if i was from there.:lol:


You wouldn't have to do it yourself.

[Youghal Exile]

You wouldn't have to do it yourself.

:lol:

[johnnytarpatch]

i hope limerick beat those dublin fawkers!!!!

[Youghal Exile]

Sorry Shez I was getting way ahead of myself .

Good to see you you back Youghaly boy . Your welcome in Limk anytime . :)

Sure why would i want go there.:lol:

[rebelicecreamman]

This thread WAS on the second page. Why doesn't ANYONE give a flying f..k about Limerick hurling?

[Coogee]

i suppose there are'nt too many Limerick lads on here...

[Paddy Wagon]

http://examiner.ie/sport/limerick-hurlers-let-rip-110032.html

Deja Vu or what?

Alot of the issues raised in the statement are very similar to a dispute in the recent past.

I really have to read unlimited heartbreak.

[Corcaigh32]

What did I do with that loud-haler? ;)

ONLY JOKING - ONLY JOKING !!!!!!!!!!

[Marine2]

Deary me ha?

Where have you gone to Giss and whats all this about strike this and players should shut up and be proud to play for their county etc. etc. good on the developmental squad and so on.. ...in all fairness you couldn't make up such foot-in-mouthery!!! What goes around comes around but the only pleasure I take from this mess is the absolute langer it has made out of you!

The press are the biggest fukers in this debacle. The Limerick county board will sort it out tonight though and Justin will get the road. Pity it took our county board 6 months longer last year.

[Lapsy Pa]

Giss are you out there?????????

Complete the following phrase ...if you can.

PLAYERS PLAY, MANAGERS MA____

[blocker]

Justin seems to me a more stuborn mule than Ger.

[mire]

where is the bile? the fiorgaels are very quiet over on afr.

I've heard the cork hurlers are to blame. they've got a disease that has 'spread to other counties.' the disease was never ever ever in evidence in ireland before it surfaced in cork. it was never identified in offaly, waterford or anywhere else. just cork.

seriously, its a sad state in limerick right now, they cannot afford to lose so many players. at the same time, justin has only done 1 of his 2 years there and he probably needs to be given his full terms [gerald was in his 3rd year of a 2 year stint]. their county board seems inept and clueless. maybe that spread from cork too.

[Corcaigh32]

The bile only flows into Cork - did ya not know that? AFR are probably a bit confused. If they go hell for leather into the Limerick lads, then it won't only have been a Cork specific thing and that kinda spoils it, because as I said - bile only flows into Cork.

[Youghal Exile]

The bile only flows into Cork - did ya not know that? AFR are probably a bit confused. If they go hell for leather into the Limerick lads, then it won't only have been a Cork specific thing and that kinda spoils it, because as I said - bile only flows into Cork.

And that's how i like it.Who do those Limerick players think they are.They have been shit for years.Who are they to say it's the managers fault.Limerick would be best off sticking with Justin and starting from scratch again.

[TonyCork80]

The big difference so far as I can see between this dispute and the Cork one is the fact that none of the Limerick players seemed to have a problem with Justin McCarthy until he started dropping a few of them.

[delzer]

The big difference so far as I can see between this dispute and the Cork one is the fact that none of the Limerick players seemed to have a problem with Justin McCarthy until he started dropping a few of them.

Repped.

A few babies up there are throwing the rattle out of the prams.

Justin has a tough job on his hands

[rebelicecreamman]

In fairness, having read the players statement in todays examiner, the problems were ongoing all year. A lot of their grievances were like groundhog day from last year, nevermind the 'divide and conquer' campaign of misinformation by the board and manager to undermine the players.

[rebelicecreamman]

Repped.

A few babies up there are throwing the rattle out of the prams.

Justin has a tough job on his hands

We of all people, need to remember just how infuriating it was to hear outsiders commenting from a position of ignorance on the Cork situation last year.

[frankeechops]

Repped.

A few babies up there are throwing the rattle out of the prams.

Justin has a tough job on his hands

I have all the Time in the World for Justin and all he has achieved in the game. But the simple fact is he has lost the Dressing room and needs to walk away with his head held high and his reputation intact.

As Icey said, it is wrong for us to comment on a situation in which we only have patchy knowledge at best.

I was Talking to a man from Ardpatrick last week in the pub and to say the players are displeased with both their treatment from the Board and the perceived distance of Justin towards them.

[Paddy Wagon]

And that's how i like it.Who do those Limerick players think they are.They have been shit for years.Who are they to say it's the managers fault.Limerick would be best off sticking with Justin and starting from scratch again.

Oh Sweet Jesus.. Its official this fella is not all there in the head at all!!

Your above comment is the exact type of comment you and many others got all upset over every time someone from outside of the county gave an opinion on last years strike.

I very much doubt you know anything about the situation in Limerick!

[northmallexile]

We of all people, need to remember just how infuriating it was to hear outsiders commenting from a position of ignorance on the Cork situation last year.

http://blog-en.asterix.com/images/zig.jpg

A wry smile of amusement should be as much as we engage with this one.

[Coogee]

The big difference so far as I can see between this dispute and the Cork one is the fact that none of the Limerick players seemed to have a problem with Justin McCarthy until he started dropping a few of them.

was talking to one of the 12 that were dropped over the xmas and they were far from happy with Justins training sessions and his lack of man management skills throughout the season...they made this clear to the county board on a few occasions....the final straw for them was the manner in which they were dropped....

im not saying i totally agree with them but its more than a few lads throwing the toys out of the pram....of last years 30 man squad only 4 remain

[Corcaigh32]

Where are the usual suspects? Kaiser Sosa should be on raging on about you know who and saying how he is past it and should be dropped for causing our strike, the Limerick strike and the bad weather. Or could it be that, as on AFR, he doesn't know what to say because it is obvious that this isn't a Cork think or a GPA thing - it's about guys who give their all day in day out, week in week out, month in month out, for years on end looking for a bit of respect and decency from the people who are supposed to be there to sort things out for them.

[rebelicecreamman]

Repped.

A few babies up there are throwing the rattle out of the prams.

Justin has a tough job on his hands

I find it very hard to picture tough, committed hurlers like Lucey, Geary, Moran, Foley and young Hickey throwing their toys out of the pram on a whim. Say what you like about them but those guys in particular always play with huge pride in their jersey.

[Corcaigh32]

Agreed. Conversely, Justin Mc doesn't strike me as anything other than a gentleman. So something went wrong somewhere. The whole thing is a sorry mess which needs to come to an amicable end for everyone as soon as possible. I feel sorry for all concerned but something tells me the Limerick hurling public won't have to go marching down O'Connell St to solve it - incidentally 19 days to the first anniversary, that's scary.

[CORKBHOY]

The way I look at it is it doesn't matter how nice a guy is or isn't, as a Corkman who spent a fair bit of time telling people outside of Cork to mind their own business this time last year I'm not going to pretend to know what's going on in Limerick now. What is funny though is how the Rebels got so much bad press for their stance whereas Waterford, Offally, Limerick etc don't seem to get the media backlash.

[Corcaigh32]

Like I said, it's cos we're special - EVERYONE hates us.

[CORKBHOY]

Like I said, it's cos we're special - EVERYONE hates us.

And we love it!!!

[Paddy Wagon]

The way I look at it is it doesn't matter how nice a guy is or isn't, as a Corkman who spent a fair bit of time telling people outside of Cork to mind their own business this time last year I'm not going to pretend to know what's going on in Limerick now. What is funny though is how the Rebels got so much bad press for their stance whereas Waterford, Offally, Limerick etc don't seem to get the media backlash.

Honestly and all bullshit aside The Limerick hurlers have not said one word to the press or public up until this statement. The difference with the Cork situation last year is it not obvious? They agreed to go on on Prime time among others, that makes them fairgame to mainstream media! Whereas the Limerick hurlers have let Justin & the co Board talk themselves into trouble!

[Corcaigh32]

OK - hang on now a second.........befor e this all kicks off now again.........our problem kicked off in October and the hurlers didn't say anything in the press until their hands were forced by statements made about them. They went on Prime Time after it all kicked off, not before. Let's not go back there in this thread or in our own - agreed?

[rebelicecreamman]

Honestly and all bullshit aside The Limerick hurlers have not said one word to the press or public up until this statement. The difference with the Cork situation last year is it not obvious? They agreed to go on on Prime time among others, that makes them fairgame to mainstream media! Whereas the Limerick hurlers have let Justin & the co Board talk themselves into trouble!

Serious piece of revisionism there re the sequence of events.:sleeping:

[CORKBHOY]

Honestly and all bullshit aside The Limerick hurlers have not said one word to the press or public up until this statement. The difference with the Cork situation last year is it not obvious? They agreed to go on on Prime time among others, that makes them fairgame to mainstream media! Whereas the Limerick hurlers have let Justin & the co Board talk themselves into trouble!

As Corcaigh32 said false statements were made against the Cork players and about the reason for their stance which, after months of keeping it in camp (which you're praising the Limerick players for), they had no choice but to come public and defend themselves. Eg "This is a GPA thing" - "this is about pay for play" - "this is about DoC on a power trip".
There's nothing of the like being said about the Limerick players in the media.

[Paddy Wagon]

agreed!

[Youghal Exile]

Honestly and all bullshit aside The Limerick hurlers have not said one word to the press or public up until this statement. The difference with the Cork situation last year is it not obvious? They agreed to go on on Prime time among others, that makes them fairgame to mainstream media! Whereas the Limerick hurlers have let Justin & the co Board talk themselves into trouble!

What are you on about.07 apart that shower of bums have achieved nothing of worth in senior hurling.At least the Cork players had proven there worth with there success.That Limerick crowd have been using poor managers as the excuse for there failings for years.

[Paddy Wagon]

As Corcaigh32 said false statements were made against the Cork players and about the reason for their stance which, after months of keeping it in camp (which you're praising the Limerick players for), they had no choice but to come public and defend themselves. Eg "This is a GPA thing" - "this is about pay for play" - "this is about DoC on a power trip".
There's nothing of the like being said about the Limerick players in the media.

None of those players are as prominent or high profile among the mainstream as some of the Cork hurlers who are seen outside of the county without any knowledge of the situation, as troublemakers & upstarts. Throw enough mud at a wall and some will stick! The Limerick story wouldnt sell as many papers!
Theres obviously an anti-cork element to it all too. Were not the most popular county after all, its a drawback of success unfortunatley!

[Corcaigh32]

I don't think success has anything to do with it - it's just cos we're Cork and sometimes that can be said a bit tongue in cheek and a bit bravado-ish (if that's a word) but there's definitely an ABC element out there.

[Paddy Wagon]

What are you on about.07 apart that shower of bums have achieved nothing of worth in senior hurling.At least the Cork players had proven there worth with there success.That Limerick crowd have been using poor managers as the excuse for there failings for years.

Youghal my original post was just pointing out the reason I think there has not been as much in the media to date. Now that the Limerick panels statement is released it might all kick off depending on how the co board meeting goes tonight. Nothing to do with whether I think they are justified in their actions or not. Ive already said when this all kicked off in Nov that they were using the same bad manager excuse constantly.

[Corcaigh32]

I think the best thing we can do from here (i.e. if we are not from Limerick) is to wait and see what happens and hope for Limerick hurling's sake that they don't end up like we did last year. The sooner it's over for everyone, the players, the board, Justin Mc and the hurling public of Limerick - the better.

[blocker]

If Justin doesnt walk or get kicked tonight out i fear this is over as he players dont seem to have the appetite for a fight like our heros last year

[Youghal Exile]

If Justin doesnt walk or get kicked tonight out i fear this is over as he players dont seem to have the appetite for a fight like our heros last year

Limerick hurling will come out of this all the better.Those lads from the u21 all ireland winning teams wasted there careers.

[rebelicecreamman]

Groundhog day part II.
The whole stand-off failed to get a mention at tonight's Limerick CB meeting. The denial stage.

[CORKBHOY]

Groundhog day part II.
The whole stand-off failed to get a mention at tonight's Limerick CB meeting. The denial stage.

Are you serious! Was hoping to wake up to news on the radio in the morning with some development on this.

[Corcaigh32]

Oh dear that's not good. If I didn't know better you would think the Limerick CB had engaged the services of a cris...must ssstop...is.....mana g..typing..........p hew just about made it. ;)

[Linedancers Delight]

Limerick hurling will come out of this all the better.Those lads from the u21 all ireland winning teams wasted there careers.


You know what youghaly as your getting older you seem to be wising up a bit . I agree with you completely .

[Lapsy Pa]

You know what youghaly as your getting older you seem to be wising up a bit . I agree with you completely .

Well, well, well look who it is.

Giss you old windbag you.:cry:

[Linedancers Delight]

Well Laps how are you keeping ?

[Lapsy Pa]

Well Laps how are you keeping ?

Not too bad, and yourself?

Alls well I hope, the league is just around the corner:lol!:

[Linedancers Delight]

Not too bad, and yourself?

Alls well I hope, the league is just around the corner:lol!:

It should be good sport alright .

Did you see much snow where you are when ye got it over there 10 days or so ago ?

[Lapsy Pa]

It should be good sport alright .

Did you see much snow where you are when ye got it over there 10 days or so ago ?

Fierce snow altogether LD. I've never seen anything like.

So how are ye sorted for a squad, I hear 24 of last years panel are refusing to play for a manager nominated by the board.

Surely that can't be true. I mean none of the papers are having a go off them, cranky oul pricks like eddie keher are surprisingly keeping their powder dry and the websites are fierce quiet on the topic.

Fill us in!

[Linedancers Delight]

Well I mean you know as much as I know Laps . It's a storm in a teacup if you ask me.

I have a certain amount of respect for the 09's but this is just crazy carry on . I've done enough eulogising about the darkness of player power and all that bollucks so I don't want to get into that here . The players have apparently walked themselves into a corner and i feel that their pride and stubbornness is preventing them now to go back . These guys tuned out too quick if you ask me .

[Corcaigh32]

Ah sure jaysus is it yourself? Consistency in a world gone mad - now the Limerick players are wrong too.

[Lapsy Pa]

Well I mean you know as much as I know Laps . It's a storm in a teacup if you ask me.

I have a certain amount of respect for the 09's but this is just crazy carry on . I've done enough eulogising about the darkness of player power and all that bollucks so I don't want to get into that here . The players have apparently walked themselves into a corner and i feel that their pride and stubbornness is preventing them now to go back . These guys tuned out too quick if you ask me .

They would want to get it sorted out. As Cork showed last year if are behind in your preparations well into the league, it'll be a short summer

[Linedancers Delight]

Ah sure jaysus is it yourself? Consistency in a world gone mad - now the Limerick players are wrong too.

I agree with you C32 the world is gone mad and the Limerick players are wrong too .
Great minds think alike hah . ;)

[Linedancers Delight]

They would want to get it sorted out. As Cork showed last year if are behind in your preparations well into the league, it'll be a short summer

I don't hold out much hope for this year , relegation is certainly on the cards . Please God Justin will be offered another contract in a few months so he'll be allowed build a panel that'l challenge for Munster in a couple or so years .

Terrible shame the likes of O'Grady, Reale , Hickey , Geary and the new young lad O'Mahony chose to finish their Senior I C careers this way . It's still not too late for them to rejoin the panel but I somehow doubt it . You'd never know though .

This new 2010 panel could surprise us all yet , they drew 18 points a piece with Wexford the other day in Mallow . It's the new blood that is needed here in Limerick . I live in hope .

[Corcaigh32]

I agree with you C32 the world is gone mad and the Limerick players are wrong too .
Great minds think alike hah . ;)

Funny man - I am staying out of it - like I have said a couple of times if ye have learned anything from what happened last year - get it sorted fast and without too much acrimony. However based on the CB meeting something tells me that is unlikely.

[Youghal Exile]

Do the Limerick public care enough to go marching down O'Connell Street?

[Linedancers Delight]

I'm afraid the players are getting very very little support on this so there isn't a hope in hell of a march down O'Connell St.

The Limerick public care enough not to march down O'Connell St .

[Barry K O Bama]

Do the Limerick public care enough to go marching down O'Connell Street?

Haven't you heard Youghally ? Three plane loads Limerick Volunteers left Shannon Airport this morning. They are headed for Haiti. They are going to help out with the looting.

Maybe they will organise a march when they get back.

Seriously, we don't know the detail of the Limerick Row but clearly Justin has lost the dressing-room. Anthony Daly said that he would not remain as manager if he lost the dressing-room. When Justin went public and accused the players of lacking in discipline - then he was way out of line. Guys like Stephen Lucey excelled as a dual player and had a very demanding job as a doctor - its just not on for a manager to accuse amateur players like that.

Why in the name of god is Justin hanging in there - he got a very narrow majority vote from the delegates in spite of alleged canavassing by the CB. Justin has had a very long and successful career and he will now be remembered for this - just like Gerald.

The Limerick Supporters will turn against him when they ship some heavy defeats and then he will be voted out by the clubs in total humiliation.

He is crazy to be putting himself through all this - its the same in every sport - when a manager loses the dressing-room he is a dead man walking and the only matters to be decided are how stubborn he is and how much humiliation he endures.

[Linedancers Delight]

Carlow 2-13
Limerick 1-13

Things were not working out last night .

[Dan Brown]

Barry nailed it.

Once the dressing room is gone it's time to go.
He's stubbornly staying in place with this joke side.
He's only making a fool of himself.

Maybe it's all about pride after his acrimonious parting with Waterford but this mess is doing untold damage to Limerick Senior hurling.
The public won't stand for it once Limerick start getting hockeyed in the league,
he should save everyone a load of hassle and just resign.

The Limerick CB are clearly as thick stupid as their counterparts in Cork.
Bottom line in this dispute Limerick hurling loses out.
Time to pack yer bags Justin and get the fuck out of Dodge.

[Linedancers Delight]

[QUOTE=Dan Brown;3142625]Barry nailed it.

Once the dressing room is gone it's time to go.
He's stubbornly staying in place with this joke side.
He's only making a fool of himself.

Maybe it's all about pride after his acrimonious parting with Waterford but this mess is doing untold damage to Limerick Senior hurling.
The public won't stand for it once Limerick start getting hockeyed in the league,
he should save everyone a load of hassle and just resign.

The Limerick CB are clearly as thick stupid as their counterparts in Cork.
Bottom line in this dispute Limerick hurling loses out.
Time to pack yer bags Justin and get the fuck out of Dodge.[/QUOTE

Fuck that . Let him rebuild a team from scratch . That is what is required in Limerick .

[rebelicecreamman]

Recipe for oblivion if ever I heard one. Good luck in Div3.

[rebelicecreamman]

Or maybe Limerick has a thriving secret mushroom industry we don't know about. I would have thought the opposite was the case, if anything.

[Linedancers Delight]

I'm seriously in two minds with this business . Of course I appreciate when the man loses the faith of his players he really should go , it only seems obvious that that should be the case .

Wouldn't you think though at this stage that those lads from last years panel and management would sit down and at least speak to each other . So far this has dragged on way too long and has brought serious unnecessary heat on Limerick . In the main we were always serious bottlers in Limerick , wait'l you see them from now on .

[rebelicecreamman]

Giss you were ALWAYS in two minds, ya schitzo. One more obnoxious than the other.

If I thought all or even most Limerick folk were like you then I would be happy to see the county stew in its own misery. However, I doubt this is the case and from the outside it is so obvious that there is only one solution. If Justin doesn't go, Limerick are finished, even as members of hurling's supporting cast.

[Linedancers Delight]

Giss you were ALWAYS in two minds, ya schitzo. One more obnoxious than the other.

If I thought all or even most Limerick folk were like you then I would be happy to see the county stew in its own misery.


Very noble of you rebelice .

[Dan Brown]

Fuck that . Let him rebuild a team from scratch . That is what is required in Limerick .

Nonsense.

No county can expect to effectively bin their entire panel and expect to be even remotely competitive.

He's lost the dressing room, with gusto and it's time for him to do what's best for Limerick hurling and hit the road.

[Linedancers Delight]

There's a lot of truth in what you say there L D . It's hard to swallow it though .

[jimmymcnulty]

I know of lads who had dealings with Justin when he was working with a certain oil company. His self importance and arrogance are meant to be staggering

[Linedancers Delight]

Great news to hear James O'Brien from Bruree has returned to the 2010 panel.

[Coogee]

Great news to hear James O'Brien from Bruree has returned to the 2010 panel.

one of the worst players on the panel im afraid...he wont make much of a difference on his own

[Linedancers Delight]

The act in itself can only be viewed as positive. A lot to prove by many in the couple or so coming weeks.

[CORKBHOY]

Acording to RTE news more players going back training tomorrow.

[Lapsy Pa]

That fella Carr who went down in the Cork game with nobody near him has dislocated his knee.

[Demons till I die]

Acording to RTE news more players going back training tomorrow.

Them limerick fella's arent in it for the long haul , proves beyond a doubt why we are so priveliged to have fellas like DOC , JG , SOOH and the rest of the panel ....true to their word to the end ...all for one and one for all ....no one deserting a sinking ship

[Rebelred]

Them limerick fella's arent in it for the long haul , proves beyond a doubt why we are so priveliged to have fellas like DOC , JG , SOOH and the rest of the panel ....true to their word to the end ...all for one and one for all ....no one deserting a sinking ship

The Limerick players have never been operating on an all for one, one for all basis. They left it up to themselves to make the decision to stay or pull out of the squad. Truth is, half of them aren't up to it anyway, those that are, will play for Limerick again eventually.

[CORKBHOY]

County Board meeting tonight, Justin is staying on.

One hundred and thirty-three votes were cast at the meeting. Eighty-three votes were in favour of McCarthy retaining his position. Forty-seven votes were lodged for the motion of no confidence and McCarthy to leave his role. Two votes were not returned and one vote was spoiled.

[Corcaigh32]

I'd say that was incredible but given our experience, it actually isn't.

[Barry K O Bama]

County Board meeting tonight, Justin is staying on.

One hundred and thirty-three votes were cast at the meeting. Eighty-three votes were in favour of McCarthy retaining his position. Forty-seven votes were lodged for the motion of no confidence and McCarthy to leave his role. Two votes were not returned and one vote was spoiled.

As far as I know the CB control about 12 votes and these were always going to vote for Justin. (Turkeys sending Xmas Cards and all that)

Taking that into account - 40% of the clubs have no confidence in McCarthy.
Thats huge - What the fuck is Justin thinking ?
He must be thicker than Luigi. If he had a brain in his head then he would now resign after getting the vote of confidence - things can only get worse for him.

[moccork]

As far as I know the CB control about 12 votes and these were always going to vote for Justin. (Turkeys sending Xmas Cards and all that)

Taking that into account - 40% of the clubs have no confidence in McCarthy.
Thats huge - What the fuck is Justin thinking ?
He must be thicker than Luigi. If he had a brain in his head then he would now resign after getting the vote of confidence - things can only get worse for him.


The spokesperson is at it again.

[moccork]

I'd say that was incredible but given our experience, it actually isn't.


Limerick are behind Justin, division 2 hurling in 2011 will be no disaster for them. Deadwood will be gone,. After a 27 pt defeat against Tipp last August those players should be chomping at the bit to prove themselves but no they blame Justin and county board.

[tippat]

As far as I know the CB control about 12 votes and these were always going to vote for Justin. (Turkeys sending Xmas Cards and all that)

Taking that into account - 40% of the clubs have no confidence in McCarthy.
Thats huge - What the fuck is Justin thinking ?
He must be thicker than Luigi. If he had a brain in his head then he would now resign after getting the vote of confidence - things can only get worse for him.

he is sticking to his principle's fair play to him, and from what i hear from limerick supporters there is not alot of support for the players who walked

[blackie]

As far as I know the CB control about 12 votes and these were always going to vote for Justin. (Turkeys sending Xmas Cards and all that)

Taking that into account - 40% of the clubs have no confidence in McCarthy.
Thats huge - What the fuck is Justin thinking ?
He must be thicker than Luigi. If he had a brain in his head then he would now resign after getting the vote of confidence - things can only get worse for him.

The CB dont actually control the vote , they vote with the status quo all the time.

[Barry K O Bama]

Limerick are behind Justin, division 2 hurling in 2011 will be no disaster for them. Deadwood will be gone,. After a 27 pt defeat against Tipp last August those players should be chomping at the bit to prove themselves but no they blame Justin and county board.

You forgot the 'Mick Mackey must be turning in his Grave' and 'Where is their pride in the Green Jersey' bits.

[Barry K O Bama]

he is sticking to his principle's fair play to him, and from what i hear from limerick supporters there is not alot of support for the players who walked

From what I hear - Limerick Supporters don't give a fuck - they are more worried about the Northampton Game.

[Paddy Wagon]

As far as I know the CB control about 12 votes and these were always going to vote for Justin. (Turkeys sending Xmas Cards and all that)

Taking that into account - 40% of the clubs have no confidence in McCarthy.
Thats huge - What the fuck is Justin thinking ?
He must be thicker than Luigi. If he had a brain in his head then he would now resign after getting the vote of confidence - things can only get worse for him.

.......and he's off

Probably thinking that 60 per cent of the clubs are behind him..

[Pontipine]

Once again like in the Gerald McCarthy situation i wonder why would any man draw this pressure on himself and his family.

I agree with Barry above in that he should now leave after getting the vote of confidence.

[Hitler]

The spokesperson is at it again.
yes he seems to be getting bored that all is sweetness & light here in cork he might need to emigrate to limerick for a good old strike.

[Rebelred]

The Limerick players, board and Justin have all made this mess, there are no winners.

[tippat]

From what I hear - Limerick Supporters don't give a fuck - they are more worried about the Northampton Game.

oh they do care but they realise that it was not justin but lucey who let a simple ball run through his legs to e kelly for a goal,and it was not justin who failed to raise the ball three times before p kerwick came and scored a goal,fuck when are players going to take the blame for mistakes they make on the field

[Barry K O Bama]

The Limerick players, board and Justin have all made this mess, there are no winners.

Yes there is - Limerick Rugby.

Its very sad because we all love the competition in Munster. Hurling can't afford the demise of one of the traditionally strong counties.
Can't see a solution here now - HQ will not get involved and the matter will not be raised again at CB level.
If the support is there for the players then they should do what the Cork Players did and ask the clubs to take a vote of their members. What have they got to lose, at this stage ?

[Corcaigh32]

Work colleague of mine plays with Granagh-Ballingarry and he is adamant of 2 things.

1. The players are right
2. The supporters don't care enough to do anything about it.

Now whether you agree with 1 or not, 2 is a saddening reflection of the dominance of rugby in Limerick.

[moccork]

Work colleague of mine plays with Granagh-Ballingarry and he is adamant of 2 things.

1. The players are right
2. The supporters don't care enough to do anything about it.

Now whether you agree with 1 or not, 2 is a saddening reflection of the dominance of rugby in Limerick.

So just because someone from Granagh Ballingarry says it then u take it as gospel. This Rugby sh** about limerick is completely overhyped. Munsterrugby is a threat to nothing only itself.

[moccork]

Yes there is - Limerick Rugby.

Its very sad because we all love the competition in Munster. Hurling can't afford the demise of one of the traditionally strong counties.
Can't see a solution here now - HQ will not get involved and the matter will not be raised again at CB level.
If the support is there for the players then they should do what the Cork Players did and ask the clubs to take a vote of their members. What have they got to lose, at this stage ?


Shut up Cusack, broken record. so u think players should ignore the vote and that 23 players should have the full say in the issue.

[Barry K O Bama]

Shut up Cusack, broken record. so u think players should ignore the vote and that 23 players should have the full say in the issue.

What sort of a fucking cretin are u, boy ? It was clear that the delegates (nodding dog, village idiots) in Cork were not representing the views of their club members. The Cork players outmanouvered the nodding dogs and their manial leader Frank by appealing directly to the club members and as they say ' The rest is History'

Its reasonable to assume that the calibre of delelgates in Limerick is the same as Cork so therein lies the solution. The Cork Players were legends and admired by all (excluding sychophant morons like you) unfortunately the Limerick Players may not have the same respect and admiration.

[moccork]

What sort of a fucking cretin are u, boy ? It was clear that the delegates (nodding dog, village idiots) in Cork were not representing the views of their club members. The Cork players outmanouvered the nodding dogs and their manial leader Frank by appealing directly to the club members and as they say ' The rest is History'

Its reasonable to assume that the calibre of delelgates in Limerick is the same as Cork so therein lies the solution. The Cork Players were legends and admired by all (excluding sychophant morons like you) unfortunately the Limerick Players may not have the same respect and admiration.

U use the word "legend" very loosely. FFs we are no better off after all the "striking". The "legends" are still calling the shots. Everyone agrees the ultimate sychophant has always been OBAMA, and we all know who u have an unhealthy liking for!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rebelicecreamman]

U use the word "legend" very loosely. FFs we are no better off after all the "striking". The "legends" are still calling the shots. Everyone agrees the ultimate sychophant has always been OBAMA, and we all know who u have an unhealthy liking for!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm certain Denis Walsh is calling the shots right now.

[morello]

Sad outcome for Limerick hurling. I just can't understand why a coach won't f**k off if the squad of players don't want him to be the coach. It's an amateur sport at the end of the day and it's the players making the commitment to go through the hard slog after a day's work three/ four nights a week - if 29 of them don't want the guy to be coach then he shouldn't be the f**kin coach. If it was a professional set-up it would be entirely different. Ironically, it's likely that a loss of cash is the only thing that can make a man block his ears to the dressing room. For it to happen to Justin twice in the space of a couple of years is embarassing, and surely an indication that the issue lies with him - he should have stepped aside.

[tippat]

Work colleague of mine plays with Granagh-Ballingarry and he is adamant of 2 things.

1. The players are right
2. The supporters don't care enough to do anything about it.

Now whether you agree with 1 or not, 2 is a saddening reflection of the dominance of rugby in Limerick.

cant agree with you cor32 i am in limerick a good bit,am working in doon at the moment and there is alot of support out there for justin and the cb for the stand they are taking

[Corcaigh32]

Fair enough tippat - I was only reporting what I got from one of their senior team. Either way a Limerick side in trouble is bad for the game.

[tippat]

Sad outcome for Limerick hurling. I just can't understand why a coach won't f**k off if the squad of players don't want him to be the coach. It's an amateur sport at the end of the day and it's the players making the commitment to go through the hard slog after a day's work three/ four nights a week - if 29 of them don't want the guy to be coach then he shouldn't be the f**kin coach. If it was a professional set-up it would be entirely different. Ironically, it's likely that a loss of cash is the only thing that can make a man block his ears to the dressing room. For it to happen to Justin twice in the space of a couple of years is embarassing, and surely an indication that the issue lies with him - he should have stepped aside.

total crap i have no doubt you have no idea how a club or county board are run,as for the squad he has players who do want to play in their county colours,also lets look at two of the ring leaders who started the unrest in waterford and limerick.

1st, big dan who had just played crap and justin took him of thats who started it in waterford.

2nd, lucey was one of the first who kicked in limerick after he was dropped after making a mistake to gift e kelly a goal ffs you would give out to a u12 if they made that kind of blunder

[rebelicecreamman]

total crap i have no doubt you have no idea how a club or county board are run,as for the squad he has players who do want to play in their county colours,also lets look at two of the ring leaders who started the unrest in waterford and limerick.

1st, big dan who had just played crap and justin took him of thats who started it in waterford.

2nd, lucey was one of the first who kicked in limerick after he was dropped after making a mistake to gift e kelly a goal ffs you would give out to a u12 if they made that kind of blunder

Even more moronic posting than usual tippat.

[tippat]

Fair enough tippat - I was only reporting what I got from one of their senior team. Either way a Limerick side in trouble is bad for the game.

fully agree with you there we need alot more counties to be strong in hurling to make it a good championship,it is no good having 3 or 4 in the shake up every year

[tippat]

Even more moronic posting than usual tippat.

let me know where i am wrong

[morello]

let me know where i am wrong

Taking off big dan leading to a waterford revolt, utter garbage my friend. The players felt they were going nowhere - and many of them were being exposed to superior training and physical preparation methods through their clubs and colleges, they felt Justin had been there too long and they needed a shake-up.

[morello]

...and the thought of big dumb dan passionately yet eloquently rallying the troops and detailing his vision for the future of waterford hurling is, frankly, hilarious.

[stevetharlear]

Big difference between Ger Mac and Justin in fairness. Justin is and always was a hurling man, whatever about his training methods, nobody can say he failed in waterford, nobody can say they wouldn't have made that final with him instead of Fitzy, I'd be surprised if they'd got that hammering under Justin.

Ger on the other hand was a complete failure over 2 years in Cork, as for him being a hurling man? Not a hope. A stooge is all he was. No class or pride.

Stick it out Justin.

[blocker]

I'm sure the €500 a session that Justin is getting a session here is a factor.....

[Action Man]

Work colleague of mine plays with Granagh-Ballingarry and he is adamant of 2 things.

1. The players are right
2. The supporters don't care enough to do anything about it.

Now whether you agree with 1 or not, 2 is a saddening reflection of the dominance of rugby in Limerick.

How many managers did they get rid of over the last 10 years?

Just maybe the players are wrong this time. What happens if Justin goes? A new manager comes in and he wants to get rid of the troublemakers on the team. What will they do then? Ask your colleague that.

[moccork]

I'm sure the €500 a session that Justin is getting a session here is a factor.....

The little club in east cork who failed to win a county probably wasted a lot of money on an ex cork manager. He failed miserably in that quest.

[Corcaigh32]

Action Man - that is why I said "Now whether you agree with 1 or not......."

[Action Man]

Action Man - that is why I said "Now whether you agree with 1 or not......."

Thats why I said "ask your colleague". Let us know what he says :D

[de mange]

Big difference between Ger Mac and Justin in fairness. Justin is and always was a hurling man, whatever about his training methods, nobody can say he failed in waterford, nobody can say they wouldn't have made that final with him instead of Fitzy, I'd be surprised if they'd got that hammering under Justin.

Ger on the other hand was a complete failure over 2 years in Cork, as for him being a hurling man? Not a hope. A stooge is all he was. No class or pride.

Stick it out Justin.

hauld yer fire there for christs sake

i would have been pro player during the strikes etc and am no ger sympathiser - but to claim that a man with 5 all irelands is not a hurling man is utter guff

cop on - we would kill for a midfielder with half of his talent right now

[Corcaigh32]

Agreed.

[Linedancers Delight]

A moment dwells on the thread for the great Gerald McCarthy.

[de mange]

A moment dwells on the thread for the great Gerald McCarthy.

fine player

[Linedancers Delight]

Sardinian.

[Barry K O Bama]

Big difference between Ger Mac and Justin in fairness. Justin is and always was a hurling man, whatever about his training methods, nobody can say he failed in waterford, nobody can say they wouldn't have made that final with him instead of Fitzy, I'd be surprised if they'd got that hammering under Justin.

Ger on the other hand was a complete failure over 2 years in Cork, as for him being a hurling man? Not a hope. A stooge is all he was. No class or pride.

Stick it out Justin.

I assume you are referring to the fact that Justin trained teams at all levels since his playing days and his love for and interest in all levels of hurling is well known -whereas Gerald has little interest since he left the Waterford Job - he trained a camogie side in the Barrs and rearely attended IC leage games.

Gerald was indeed, the perfect stooge - he is a very vain man and was more interested in grooming himself than anything else - his collection of hair care products, aftershaves and anti-wrinkle creams allied to his range of hair colours and dyes was legendary and a source of some amusement amongst the players - Frank had no difficulty in getting the numbskull to attack the players and fire the weapons loaded by the well paid Casey Communications.

At least Justin is showing some dignity and the Limerick CB have learned from Cork and are keeping their mouths shut. They haven't wheeled in 'rent a has- been' and asked Babs and Comb-over Keher to stick their oars in.

Justin can't win this one and he should do the sensible thing and resign - his legacy to Limerick Hurling will serve no one.

[gingin]

I assume you are referring to the fact that Justin trained teams at all levels since his playing days and his love for and interest in all levels of hurling is well known -whereas Gerald has little interest since he left the Waterford Job - he trained a camogie side in the Barrs and rearely attended IC leage games.

Gerald was indeed, the perfect stooge - he is a very vain man and was more interested in grooming himself than anything else - his collection of hair care products, aftershaves and anti-wrinkle creams allied to his range of hair colours and dyes was legendary and a source of some amusement amongst the players - Frank had no difficulty in getting the numbskull to attack the players and fire the weapons loaded by the well paid Casey Communications.

At least Justin is showing some dignity and the Limerick CB have learned from Cork and are keeping their mouths shut. They haven't wheeled in 'rent a has- been' and asked Babs and Comb-over Keher to stick their oars in.

Justin can't win this one and he should do the sensible thing and resign - his legacy to Limerick Hurling will serve no one.


Can you not just stick to the topic? The Limerick Hurlers!!!
No need to go attacking GMc all over again! Everyone that reads here knows what went on last year. There is no need for you to mention some of the above points. What has his personal grooming have to do with the current Situation in Limerick?

[Ageless (H)]

Can you not just stick to the topic? The Limerick Hurlers!!!
No need to go attacking GMc all over again! Everyone that reads here knows what went on last year. There is no need for you to mention some of the above points. What has his personal grooming have to do with the current Situation in Limerick?

Well said gingin ,

[rebelicecreamman]

Can you not just stick to the topic? The Limerick Hurlers!!!
No need to go attacking GMc all over again! Everyone that reads here knows what went on last year. There is no need for you to mention some of the above points. What has his personal grooming have to do with the current Situation in Limerick?

Chill, dude.

Barry has raised some very interesting issues here. This INTERNET business is serious stuff.

[gingin]

Eh, What issues has he raised that are interesting or constructive to this discussion?

This is a discussion on the rights and wrongs of the Limerick Dispute. What have Gerald Mc's personal grooming habits got to do with it?
Play the Ball not the man Barry..

[stevetharlear]

hauld yer fire there for christs sake

i would have been pro player during the strikes etc and am no ger sympathiser - but to claim that a man with 5 all irelands is not a hurling man is utter guff

cop on - we would kill for a midfielder with half of his talent right now

I never said he wasn't a great hurler. Hurling man though? Give me Justin ANYday.

[rebelicecreamman]

To be fair, both Macs have fabulous hair.

[Barry K O Bama]

Eh, What issues has he raised that are interesting or constructive to this discussion?

This is a discussion on the rights and wrongs of the Limerick Dispute. What have Gerald Mc's personal grooming habits got to do with it? Play the Ball not the man Barry..

Surely that's obvious.

The grooming issue is very important at the moment particulalry as Paraic Duffy is highlighting the enormous fees paid to IC Managers.

Have you any idea of the huge cost of hair care products and facial creams ?

How can a manager look good for the cameras (fair play to Gerald, he always looked perfect) if he isn't paid a decent fee.

[moccork]

Surely that's obvious.

The grooming issue is very important at the moment particulalry as Paraic Duffy is highlighting the enormous fees paid to IC Managers.

Have you any idea of the huge cost of hair care products and facial creams ?

How can a manager look good for the cameras (fair play to Gerald, he always looked perfect) if he isn't paid a decent fee.

Funny f***n man arent you. GM is gone 12 months and u still have to have a pop. Well it is very easy for posters on here to insult and make fun of one of your heroes but we would not stoop to that level. U really are a sad chap. You could open a big can of worms here if u really want to. Give it a rest will you ffs.

[Hitler]

Justin & Gerald are both legends of the game. It`s good to see the people of limerick do not stick the knife into their manager as we did ayear ago. FFS when I think back on what abuse Gerald had to take from people who call themselves proud Cork people.

[Corcaigh32]

Hmm lads let's not go there. Things are ticking along reasonably well now. Limerick CB are behaving exactly the same way as the Cork CB - which is incredible purely because it should have been obvious that those options deepened our problem so they surely should have learned from that. The main difference is the value of hurling to the ordinary Joachim Soap up there. It's not the premier sport up there - Limerick man said to me a couple of weeks ago - sure who cares as long as Munster are winning.

The CB know there won't be marches on O'Connell St - so they can hold a harder line.

Limerick hurling is the loser here and by extension, the game of hurling nationally.

[Linedancers Delight]

I've got a good feeling that the 09 players will be returning soon and will be playing with fight and spirit again. A decent enough Limerick team could be lining out this Championship yet . Watch out Cork and Tipp.

[tippat]

Surely that's obvious.

The grooming issue is very important at the moment particulalry as Paraic Duffy is highlighting the enormous fees paid to IC Managers.

Have you any idea of the huge cost of hair care products and facial creams ?

How can a manager look good for the cameras (fair play to Gerald, he always looked perfect) if he isn't paid a decent fee.

you are starting to show how sad you really are at this stage barry, this time last year you seemed to know every thing that was going on in cork hurling now all you can come up with are cheap shots at gm

[Barry K O Bama]

you are starting to show how sad you really are at this stage barry, this time last year you seemed to know every thing that was going on in cork hurling now all you can come up with are cheap shots at gm

Wow. Another lecture from the main man from the Home of Hurling.

That's rich coming from an idiot who has justified Justin's position by citing a mistake on the field of play by the Limerick Dual Player Stephen Lucey. Lucey is a whole hearted committed player and anybody that saw his man of the match performance against Cork in the Munster Football Final last year would not question that man's committment.

The Justin appointment didn't work, he lost the dressingroom and its wasn't due to lack of commitment by the Limerick Hurlers. Justin is a legend of hurling, Gerald, in contrast, is a vain clown who unwittingly acted as Frank's Stooge - a minor player in a revenge mission. His vanity was a factor IMO and I make no apologies for referring to it.

Ironically Justin nailed what the real issue in Cork was, when he said ' No matter how many AI's these players win for Cork, Frank will never forgive them'

I think the Cork Dispute is very relevant to Limerick - Gerald had far greater support from the delegates than Justin has but it transpired that he had very little support from the club members who voted overwhelmingly for the players. It may not be similar in Limerick but who knows. I would guess that guys like Lucey, Moran etc would have big support from ordinary club members.

[Action Man]

Surely that's obvious.

The grooming issue is very important at the moment particulalry as Paraic Duffy is highlighting the enormous fees paid to IC Managers.

Have you any idea of the huge cost of hair care products and facial creams ?

How can a manager look good for the cameras (fair play to Gerald, he always looked perfect) if he isn't paid a decent fee.

Your some tool Barry. You slated people on the cork thread for "wumming" as you called it but all they were doing was giving a different opinion to you. You didn't like it but it was an opinion about hurling. Look at what you are doing on this thread. Practice what you preach Barry.

[Rebelred]

Wow. Another lecture from the main man from the Home of Hurling.

That's rich coming from an idiot who has justified Justin's position by citing a mistake on the field of play by the Limerick Dual Player Stephen Lucey. Lucey is a whole hearted committed player and anybody that saw his man of the match performance against Cork in the Munster Football Final last year would not question that man's committment.

The Justin appointment didn't work, he lost the dressingroom and its wasn't due to lack of commitment by the Limerick Hurlers. Justin is a legend of hurling, Gerald, in contrast, is a vain clown who unwittingly acted as Frank's Stooge - a minor player in a revenge mission. His vanity was a factor IMO and I make no apologies for referring to it.

Ironically Justin nailed what the real issue in Cork was, when he said ' No matter how many AI's these players win for Cork, Frank will never forgive them'

I think the Cork Dispute is very relevant to Limerick - Gerald had far greater support from the delegates than Justin has but it transpired that he had very little support from the club members who voted overwhelmingly for the players. It may not be similar in Limerick but who knows. I would guess that guys like Lucey, Moran etc would have big support from ordinary club members.

How do you know that? Serious question Barry, without blurring the lines with references to disputes elsewhere, how do you know that there wasn't a lack of commitment from some of the Limerick hurlers who were on the panel last year?

[Ageless (H)]

The dogs on the street knew there was a drinking culture in Limerick hurling

[Corcaigh32]

One of the things I have found irksome about the Limerick situation this year is the coverage of it and the total contrast between that and the coverage last year. But when you think about it the backgrounds to the situations are very different. In my opinion the Limerick situation is a problem for Limerick, whether it's the dominance of rugby, the apparent apathy on behalf of supporters, the players who have taken what they see as a principled stand or the CB who like our own, seem to be living in a time warp which prevents them from seeing that Limerick hurling is losing and if they really care about it then they would try to solve this problem. Justin like Ger Mac last year is the catalyst igniting the problem. Which brings me to the last few posts on this thread. The big picture here is the damage to Limerick hurling and by extension hurling nationally, as it was with us last year. To an extent, the personalities in both cases just happen to be the present incumbents. It could have been anyone. The point is that 21st century players are professional in everything but payment and the association and its county boards need to recognize this and treat them accordingly. They don't want money, they don't want power, they just want respect, their sacrifices to be acknowledged and respected and those around them (management and board) to be as professional in preparation and committment as they are. The sooner the association faces up to this the sooner these disputes go away and the better for football and hurling.

[Paddy Wagon]

Surely that's obvious.

The grooming issue is very important at the moment particulalry as Paraic Duffy is highlighting the enormous fees paid to IC Managers.

Have you any idea of the huge cost of hair care products and facial creams ?

How can a manager look good for the cameras (fair play to Gerald, he always looked perfect) if he isn't paid a decent fee.

True colours shining through again Barry..

Do you recall having a go at a poster for raising a very similar point in relation to Sean óg on the hurlers thread?

[CORKBHOY]

Looking at the RTE news last night and Mark Foley made some very interesting comments along the lines of:

"We'd like a bit of respect, even a phone call.... maybe some of the players are prepared to sit down with Justin and see where things stand".

And Marty Morrisey said indications from Justin are that he's prepared to wipe the slate clean and take things from here. If all this is true then we could see a lot of lads returning soon.

[Rebelred]

Looking at the RTE news last night and Mark Foley made some very interesting comments along the lines of:

"We'd like a bit of respect, even a phone call.... maybe some of the players are prepared to sit down with Justin and see where things stand".

And Marty Morrisey said indications from Justin are that he's prepared to wipe the slate clean and take things from here. If all this is true then we could see a lot of lads returning soon.

Hopefully. There's no reason why they can't sit down and discuss it at the very least. Stand off confrontation will not resolve this.

[Paddy Wagon]

Looking at the RTE news last night and Mark Foley made some very interesting comments along the lines of:

"We'd like a bit of respect, even a phone call.... maybe some of the players are prepared to sit down with Justin and see where things stand".

And Marty Morrisey said indications from Justin are that he's prepared to wipe the slate clean and take things from here. If all this is true then we could see a lot of lads returning soon.

Ollie Moran said much the same yesterday evening on the wireless, although he did say he couldnt speak on behalf of the players, but you got the hint that the players were ready to meet & compromise!

Fair play to Justin, he called their bluff because he knew they hadnt a leg to stand on, in the eyes of the majority of GAA fans & members in limerick!

Any news on how O' Shaughnessy is doing since the MS diagnosis?

[Barry K O Bama]

Ollie Moran said much the same yesterday evening on the wireless, although he did say he couldnt speak on behalf of the players, but you got the hint that the players were ready to meet & compromise!

Fair play to Justin, he called their bluff because he knew they hadnt a leg to stand on, in the eyes of the majority of GAA fans & members in limerick!

Any news on how O' Shaughnessy is doing since the MS diagnosis?

That's typical of your know-all attitiude. You are well matched with your buddies Hitler and Moccork.

How can the Limerick Players win in the eyes of morons like you ? The Limerick Players give a hint that they will consider compromise and you immediatly broadcast that they haven't a leg to stand on - FFS !
If they refuse to compromise then the likes of you will say they are unreasonable.

You know nothing of the situation in Limerick. Compromise means both sides giving a little. I imagine that Justin will have to make concessions and changes in his management style and have to acknowledge that the commitment of great players like Moran and Lucey should not be challenged in public.

I would be delighted to see the best 15 represent Limerick again and if Justin can see out his year then all the better. It will be good for hurling and P Duffy is committed to avoiding a repetition.

The last thing needed is thiumphalism from gobshites like you.

[Paddy Wagon]

Yerra whisht up ya clown Barry...

Triumphalism my arse. The facts are this group of hurlers saw what happened in Cork/Clare/Waterford last year and saw an opportunity to remove yet another Limerick manager. What they didnt bank on was the fact that the majority of Supporters & members couldnt care less about their grievances with the co board/Justin.
Their reputations preceeded them in this instance after years of Bitching, Boozing & Bottling it when it mattered.

*edit*
BTW. There was no triumphalism on my behalf in the post you quoted. I have only a passing interest in the situation because it affects hurling nationwide. Your a great man to twist comments while also avoiding direct queries or issues raised when it suits you. I can see why you were chosen as the mouthpiece...

[Hitler]

Yerra whisht up ya clown Barry...

Triumphalism my arse. The facts are this group of hurlers saw what happened in Cork/Clare/Waterford last year and saw an opportunity to remove yet another Limerick manager. What they didnt bank on was the fact that the majority of Supporters & members couldnt care less about their grievances with the co board/Justin.
Their reputations preceeded them in this instance after years of Bitching, Boozing & Bottling it when it mattered.

*edit*
BTW. There was no triumphalism on my behalf in the post you quoted. I have only a passing interest in the situation because it affects hurling nationwide. Your a great man to twist comments while also avoiding direct queries or issues raised when it suits you. I can see why you were chosen as the mouthpiece...
a yes clown & mouthpiece. Very apt description & not the first or last time obama will be described in such fashion. He must be at a loose end now that he doesn`t have any protests or strikes to attend.

[Barry K O Bama]

Yerra whisht up ya clown Barry...

Triumphalism my arse. The facts are this group of hurlers saw what happened in Cork/Clare/Waterford last year and saw an opportunity to remove yet another Limerick manager. What they didnt bank on was the fact that the majority of Supporters & members couldnt care less about their grievances with the co board/Justin.
Their reputations preceeded them in this instance after years of Bitching, Boozing & Bottling it when it mattered.

*edit*
BTW. There was no triumphalism on my behalf in the post you quoted. I have only a passing interest in the situation because it affects hurling nationwide. Your a great man to twist comments while also avoiding direct queries or issues raised when it suits you. I can see why you were chosen as the mouthpiece...

That's a reprehensible remark to make about players like Damien Reale, Stephen Lucey, Seamus Hickey, Brian Geary, Mark Foley, Ollie & Niall Moran.

Stephen Lucey is a doctor and whilst an intern, he often work 24 hours, with no sleep and went straight to training. He's a great hurler and footballer and would walk on both of our teams. He doesn't deserve cheap-shots from keyboard warriors like you.

Yes they were awful against Tipp last season but there was obviously something wrong in the camp.
If you have any cop-on you will edit your post and delete your disgraceful, defamatory remarks.

You have consistently proved yourself to be a bag of wind evidenced by the fact that you main cheerleader is the most idiotic poster on the GAA Threads - Rebull/Hitler

[Paddy Wagon]

Hit a nerve have I?

OK Barry your right.
The Limerick squad have no previous reputation for being difficult to manage.
The rumours of a drinking culture among this & previous squads are all made up.
They have always shown up in games when it mattered.

There are obviously some great men in that Limerick squad and tarring them all with the one brush may be unfair on my part, but for you to get so offended when I question the Limerick hurlers and call me a keyboard warrior, after you using this thread about the LIMERICK HURLERS to yet again have a pop off Gerald (I know, I know, its acceptable in here apparently) earlier in the thread just shows the hypocracy of your standards.

[Mick Lyons]

There were some serious boozehounds on that Limerick team.
Anyone that says otherwise is deluded.

[samsung]

i have lived up here 12 years and that is so true, you would see them after games falling around the town,

on a lighter note my daughter was born here but by fuck she will have a rebel heart ;);)


Why the heck are you putting pictures of your daughter on the INTERNET?????????

[gingin]

Yeah must say thats a bit naive, to be honest!!!
Some weirdos hawkng the net these days!! That Barry K obama strikes me as a bit of a .... There are a few more on here also, the jew hater lame2me!!

[Barry K O Bama]

Hit a nerve have I?

OK Barry your right.
The Limerick squad have no previous reputation for being difficult to manage.
The rumours of a drinking culture among this & previous squads are all made up.
They have always shown up in games when it mattered.

There are obviously some great men in that Limerick squad and tarring them all with the one brush may be unfair on my part, but for you to get so offended when I question the Limerick hurlers and call me a keyboard warrior, after you using this thread about the LIMERICK HURLERS to yet again have a pop off Gerald (I know, I know, its acceptable in here apparently) earlier in the thread just shows the hypocracy of your standards.

What colour is the sky in your world ?

You throw a major hissy fit on another thread when its posted that a club-mate of yours should not have picked in the AI Football final. You complain that he is a whole-hearted committed player and as an amatuer sportsmans should not be criticised in a discussion form - yet you again repleat your outrageous slurs against all of the 2009 Limerick Hurling Panel and you then accuse me of being a hyocrite.

Why don't you show a bit of good grace and withdraw your allegations against the Limerick Hurlers ?

As regards Gerald - someone posted that he was the Cork CB Stooge - a view shared by many. I posted that he was happy to acts as Frank's Stooge mainly due to his vanity. You claim to know many of the Cork Hurlers - Just ask them about Gerald's Vanity ? The contrast between Justin's actions and Gerald's actions is very obvious and is a matter worthy of comment and discussion.
However, I made the point very early on that Justin was very wrong in explaining his culling by citing lack of committment and discipline. There may be issues with some of the '09 hurlers and some may be partial to a drink or two (I don't have any information on this) but not all of the guys dropped - Mike O Brien ?
Also Justin made a serious error in not contacting the players dropped. He should have spoken to them individually and explained that he was trying some new players and that if the guys dropped did well at club level then the door was still open for them.
There could have been no complaints then.

Instead he has questioned the character of everyone dropped from the 09 panel. Simply not on.
And whilst I admire Justin's achievements and I think that he is on a higher level entirely to that clown Gerald - I think he is wrong here and should accept his errors and realise that he can never get the best out of the top hurlers in Limerick now. He should resign for the good of everyone concerned.
Compromise may be possible but I doubt if the 09 players can now give 100% if Justin stays.

[Barry K O Bama]

Yeah must say thats a bit naive, to be honest!!!
Some weirdos hawkng the net these days!! That Barry K obama strikes me as a bit of a .... There are a few more on here also, the jew hater lame2me!!

That's an outreageous comment. I've reported you to the administrator, you have no basis to make insinuations like this about any poster on this website and you should take a serious dose of cop-on - Juvenile Clown.

[Barry K O Bama]

There were some serious boozehounds on that Limerick team.
Anyone that says otherwise is deluded.

Mick - Most of your comments are sensible and some quite humerous. But this post is pretty stupid.

[Hitler]

That's an outreageous comment. I've reported you to the administrator, you have no basis to make insinuations like this about any poster on this website and you should take a serious dose of cop-on - Juvenile Clown.
Look Obama not condoning gingin`s assertion (as its probably the most disgusting you could make about an individual)but he can only judge you on your posts & frankly you do come across as a fairly strange individual.
You need to tone down those posts, people are only giving their own opinions on here. It would be a strange world if we all had the same opinion. And according to gingin a very weird one if we were all of your type. Please take this advice on board.

[jams]

Apparently the Limerick hurlers have contacted the Limerick footballers for a bit of support?

Am I spreading pure unfounded gossip?

[Youghal Exile]

Big difference between Ger Mac and Justin in fairness. Justin is and always was a hurling man, whatever about his training methods, nobody can say he failed in waterford, nobody can say they wouldn't have made that final with him instead of Fitzy, I'd be surprised if they'd got that hammering under Justin.

Ger on the other hand was a complete failure over 2 years in Cork, as for him being a hurling man? Not a hope. A stooge is all he was. No class or pride.

Stick it out Justin.

I hope Justin hangs on too.Those limericks players only care about getting drunk in nancy blakes and dining out on snack boxes in supermacs than they do about there hurling.The Cork players were winners and men of honour and Gerald was a dud.Those Limerick players are just a bunch of wasters and Justin is a great hurling man and fair play to him for facing those tramps down.As for the limerick public all they care about is where can they buy a new gun and getting pissed on good friday.

[morello]

How people can take the players' side in the Cork strike and the managements' side in the Limerick strike is simply baffling.

The issue here is that the top 30 players agree that manager is not the right person for the job, these guys volunteer their time to represent their county and have only a limited number of years to achieve the success they crave - if the manager is not wanted then he f**ks off. There may be many differences with both player and coach between the two sagas but the crux of the matter, as outlined above, is the same. Saddens me to see so many on here backing Justin (who was run out of Waterford the year before let's not forget).

Justin and Ger were legendary players but they are both dinosaurs of the game in terms of coaching and are no longer wanted.

[rebelicecreamman]

how people can take the players' side in the cork strike and the managements' side in the limerick strike is simply baffling.

The issue here is that the top 30 players agree that manager is not the right person for the job, these guys volunteer their time to represent their county and have only a limited number of years to achieve the success they crave - if the manager is not wanted then he f**ks off. There may be many differences with both player and coach between the two sagas but the crux of the matter, as outlined above, is the same. Saddens me to see so many on here backing justin (who was run out of waterford the year before let's not forget).

Justin and ger were legendary players but they are both dinosaurs of the game in terms of coaching and are no longer wanted.

+1.

[Barry K O Bama]

How people can take the players' side in the Cork strike and the managements' side in the Limerick strike is simply baffling.

The issue here is that the top 30 players agree that manager is not the right person for the job, these guys volunteer their time to represent their county and have only a limited number of years to achieve the success they crave - if the manager is not wanted then he f**ks off. There may be many differences with both player and coach between the two sagas but the crux of the matter, as outlined above, is the same. Saddens me to see so many on here backing Justin (who was run out of Waterford the year before let's not forget).

Justin and Ger were legendary players but they are both dinosaurs of the game in terms of coaching and are no longer wanted.

I'm can't understand it either. OK, Gerald was onto the media everyday parroting Frank's PR Firms nonsense and most people in Cork were aware that the real issue was the CB Secretary sttling old scores.

But how anybody can claim that Justin handled this properly is beyond me. He should have resigned or been fired after the Tipp game, surely it was obvious that he had taken Limerick backwards.

It looks like the Limerick CB have played the 'Player Power' card effectively.

If you recall, the media were trying to sensationalise the Cork Dispute by saying that it would take years to heal things. A lot of people will always have a poor opinion of Frank and a lot of CB supporters may still be a bit miffed but overall there is not much of a residue here.

Seeing as P Duffy has commited to put a system in place to avoid a repeat of these disputes again then its hard to imagine why the Limerick CB don't have a quiet word in Justin's ear and tell him that he has his moral victory now - do everyone a favour and retire from management for good.

[Mick Lyons]

Mick - Most of your comments are sensible and some quite humerous. But this post is pretty stupid.

How?
Does any of the blame ever lie with the players Barry?

[Corcaigh32]

Sunday Sport report on it. Probably the one and only time I will ever agree with Eamonn Cregan. Could yet be sorted by getting a round a table - who gives first in order to make that happen though - it looked like Foley was offering an olive branch.

[moccork]

How?
Does any of the blame ever lie with the players Barry?

Dont take any notice of OBAMA, he is only an adorer for u know who.

[shez1987]

67 minutes Dublin 6-29 Limerick 1-10

A sad, sad day for a once great hurling county.

[de mange]

67 minutes Dublin 6-29 Limerick 1-10

A sad, sad day for a once great hurling county.

their defence was an absolute joke - dublin got 4 of those goals in a row by just walking through a bunch of players who couldnt give a shite and refused to play as a team

that limerick team is an embarrassment to their county and the great teams that went before them

the positive in it all though will be the dublin meeja deciding that they are on for the double again, only for them to fail miserably when it matters

[Youghal Exile]

How come the people of Limerick don't care about there hurling team.How can they stand back and watch as Limerick hurling is dying?

[Tommy O]

This Limerick team will get a lot worse as players realise they are wasting their time , they will lose interest and some will drop out...this was beginning to happen to the replacement Cork team before the resolution. Limerick CB need to sort this mess out one way or another.

[Tommy O]

Thats what a limerick man said to me youghalie , the limerick public dont care enough about it.

[Youghal Exile]

Thats what a limerick man said to me youghalie , the limerick public dont care enough about it.

Rugby has killed hurling in Limerick.Im very sad because even though they weren't winning all irelands Limerick teams always played with fight and passion.All of our matches with Limerick over the years were tough battles and just three short years ago they produced a battling performance against the cats in the all ireland final.They better shut up about being the sporting capital of ireland after this.

[Mondi]

Limericks next outing is against the winners of Cork & Tipperary for a place in the Munster final.
Will they even field a team ??

[Corcaigh32]

That was bad to watch, imagine if you are a Limerick hurling fan. They need to do whatever it takes to bring the players back. It's all fine smiling walking onto the pitch but 6-30 to 2-10 must have some good to come out of it.

[Coogee]

sad sad day for Limerick Hurling...was talking to the auld fella who goes to every league game home and away and even though he wants justin to step down still follows the team.....

On a side not he was telling me the other day that our club in south Limerick who i grew up playing for cannot field a 15 a side u-16, minor or U-21 team and we are not the only ones so we take part in a 12 a side competition...i couldnt believe it....he also told me that Garryspillane ( a senior club) could not field a U-18 team last year.....I know the success of Munster has turned alot of young fellas on to rugby but surely 90% of those lads would play rugby/soccer in winter and GAA in the summer....it must be the simple fact that populations are down in rural areas....worrying times though for rural GAA clubs....the auld fella reckons that clubs will eb forced to join up with neighbouring parishes

[Linedancers Delight]

I'm suicidal.

[gooner]

Rugby has killed hurling in Limerick.Im very sad because even though they weren't winning all irelands Limerick teams always played with fight and passion.All of our matches with Limerick over the years were tough battles and just three short years ago they produced a battling performance against the cats in the all ireland final.They better shut up about being the sporting capital of ireland after this.

i live and work in limerick and we had the game on today , i found it bad enough to watch but the customers who were limerick men were just laughing at every dublin score , i found it really sad and would never see it in cork thank fuck,

[rebelicecreamman]

I'm suicidal.

What did you THINK was going to happen, dumbass?

[Tommy O]

It came close.
Its hard to believe a county boad would let this happen , and I'm not taking sides because unlike the cork debacle I really don't know enough about this dispute.But it is the county board to my mind is charging with looking after and nuturing the game , the current impasse is appalling for the game of hurling in hurling. Even the current players look disheartened. Poor Justin reminds me of a man sticking to his principles in a world that has moved on.

[Linedancers Delight]

Very disheartened with todays performance I'm afraid it's time for Justin move on.

[rebelicecreamman]

Fuck that . Let him rebuild a team from scratch . That is what is required in Limerick .

If it wasn't so sad it'd be funny.

[Corcaigh32]

They were making the point on TG4 today that even if they get it solved, the older players may not have been as diligent about continuing their training as our lads were last year. That said, let's say for the sake of argument, the Limerick CB has an epiphany and decides to bring all parties around the table and resolves it. A Limerick team taken from an entire panel, including the players currently not playing, might prove a different proposition over one 70 mins if we were to beat Tipp.

[Linedancers Delight]

Things have moved from that time, the 10 panel are no up to it. It's not the way I wanted things to turn out but now I'm afraid we must be realistic, he has to go.

[Mondi]

Things have moved from that time, the 10 panel are no up to it. It's not the way way I wanted things to turn out but now I'm afraid we must be realistic, he has to go.

Too late for him to go now,the damage is done. He should be made stay now and suffer the indignation of the whole mess that could've been avoided.
You a are hypocrite now Giss.
Cork could've found themselves in the same situation twelve months ago but the players, the clubs and the supporters refused to allow it to happen by taking the action they took.
Shame on the Limerick county board, shame on the clubs and shame on the supporters who didn't care enough about hurling to allow this to happen.:cry:

[mikeyj22]

Back down to Cork Justin.. just go. It's like watching a death by a thousand cuts

[Linedancers Delight]

Yes I know I'm being hypocritical, it didn't strike me so hard until it hit home today with my own county. I still don't think he'l be going anywhere this year though. Bad bad times ahead but Limerick will overcome this eventually.

[rebelicecreamman]

Yes I know I'm being hypocritical, it didn't strike me so hard until it hit home today in with own county.


This is a dark day for the GAA, and I feel very sorry for genuine Limerick GAA people.

On the other hand, I have no time whatever for ignorant, interfering pricks who wanted to see my county steer itself over a cliff just as Limerick have done today.

I repeat my question from earlier Giss: what the fcuk did you THINK was going to happen?

And where is the evidence that Limerick can recover from this? Unless serious lessons are learnt, then it is extremely unlikely Limerick will recover.

[Linedancers Delight]

I thought they might have given a better account of themselves overall throughout the league which unfortunately they haven't. Today's game was a crunch game and the players showed that they didn't have it when it really mattered. It proves to me that the rest of our games in the league were played against teams that were strolling past us rather than go full pelt like what Dublin did today. I thought Justin was going to improve those players which he may well have done but unfortunately not up to division 1 status. I was trying to think positive and show a little faith but faith isn't enough. It's a big kick in the teeth for Limerick gaels who have supported Justin all through this debacle some will stick by him but I think many will like myself be waking up to the reality that he must go now. Rebelice I think you need to lay off hating me.

[rebelicecreamman]

There aren't too many people I hate giss. None come to mind right now and you were never one of them.You're only an internet loon that I waste too much energy on.

The lesson of the recent inter-county disputes is as clear as day. There are massive demands on modern, amateur intercounty players, and the least they are entitled to for their efforts is that the requisite 'professionalism' of approach is reciprocated by the other involved parties - ie the county board and management teams. Players are deciding that if these are not in place but rather are there to hinder them then they are wasting their time even trying to compete. Pride in the jersey is a given. But it's simply not enough.

[Linedancers Delight]

There aren't too many people I hate giss. None come to mind right now and you were never one of them.


You could have fooled me.:rolleyes:

The 09 Limerick hurlers were very well looked after in terms of facilities etc and never wanted for anything. There is no doubt that they have thrown the rattler out. There were totally out of order to have brought it to this point but now we need them back Justin must go . It's as simple as that.

[rebelicecreamman]

You could have fooled me.:rolleyes:

The 09 Limerick hurlers were very well looked after in terms of facilities etc and never wanted for anything. There is no doubt that they have thrown the rattler out. There were totally out of order to have brought it to this point but now we need them back Justin must go . It's as simple as that.

NOTHING. The sum total of what you have learnt from this. Looking after a team is about more than gear or food or facilities. Enlightened, up to date management is where it all begins and ends, and you guys bought a lemon.

And even if you disagree on that, once the manager loses the dressingroom as completely as GMac and JMac did, the game is up. There is NO other way. Here endeth the lesson.

PS. I wonder what thoughts were going through the mighty JP's head today in Parnell Park. His money or connections haven't brought much luck to his native county. Or has he a bigger case to answer?

[Linedancers Delight]

Your off again condescending , don't assume what you think I know or don't know please. I don't know anything about JP only that he has too much money. The LCB made the cardinal sin when they ousted Rithie Bennis , that was a mental decision totally out of leftfield, Limerick supporters were astounded and left scratching their heads when they heard it. They done the same to Tom Ryan. They're a bad lot but unfortunately as you know yourself Co boards only do what they want to do and can never be got rid of.

[Lapsy Pa]

Didn't the Limerick players, who were laughing and joking with their friends and families on the pitch after the game, realise that the game was on tv?

After a display and result like that you'd think they would be embarrassed and mortified.

[Youghal Exile]

Back down to Cork Justin.. just go. It's like watching a death by a thousand cuts

Your people are just sitting on there arses mikey.If only they were as intrested in there hurling as they are in buying guns and knives!

[Youghal Exile]

If this was happening in Cork right now with such a rage the whole city and county would be in we would have burned the place to the ground.The Limerick players didn't want to to do media conferences because they didn't want to be like the cork players and that's how they ended up getting there arses handed to them on a plate by there county board.I''ll just say this thank god Cork is not Limerick.Heres to Cork the real sporting capital of ireland.

[Tommy O]

If a coach loses the dressingroom , there really is no option.
Players do have power whether people like to admit it or not.

[Linedancers Delight]

Some people may find this interesting.


http://www.westlimerickradi o.ie/ws/sport

[mikeyj22]

Your people are just sitting on there arses mikey.If only they were as intrested in there hurling as they are in buying guns and knives!

Dobt worry everyone here is real pissed off about it, I cant see a way out of it though

[Linedancers Delight]

Ollie Moran's interview in the Independent today.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/vincent-hogan/vincent-hogan-descent-into-darkness-2172593.html

[Coogee]

good article....Moran has no reason but to tell it as it is now that he is retired....its clear as day that Justin's man management skills are awful and his training methods are stuck in the 80's....The Limerick county Borad should be ashamed of themselves for letting this fiasco continue....but then again what would you expect from GAA administrators

[Barry K O Bama]

Great Article.

It really captures the feelings of last years team.

A few distinctions between the Limerick and Cork disputes :-

The Frank factor was in the Cork Players favour as most people realised that the real agenda was Frank seeking revenge for the first strike.

The JP Factor seems to be a big issue in Limerick.

The Cork Players had appeared in 4 AI Finals, winning 2 and had a great bond with the supporters. They also were experienced in this type of dispute and knew how to deal with the media. The Limerick Players did not court public opinion well. Ollie Moran's article is too late in the day.

Most people would now accept that Justin was past his sell-by date and his management was not working.

Its a huge dilemma because some will argue that Administrators cannot give in to player power but the counter argument is that when a manager has lost the dressing-room then he has to go. GAA Admininstrators are not very flexible and asking guys who appointed a manager to admit they had made a mistake is not easy with your typical GAA tunnel visioned administrator.

Limerick is a great GAA county with a proud tradition - Every GAA Supporter is a big loser here. The Munster and AI C/ship is all the poorer without a competitive Limerick. Hopefully a good manager can be brought in next year and they can start repairing the damage.

[Hitler]

Hurling needs Limerick to get their act together, in the 90`s we had Ourselves, Tipp, Limerick, Clare & Waterford all competing strongly but over the last number of years clare & limerick are slding badly downwards. Elsewhere Offall y& Wexford are heading in same direction - so in a small pool of contenders to lose 4 or 5 teams is massive.
GAA topbrass need to sort this ASAP.

[Youghal Exile]

Shame on the people of Limerick for allowing this to happen.

[POL]

Hurling needs Limerick to get their act together, in the 90`s we had Ourselves, Tipp, Limerick, Clare & Waterford all competing strongly but over the last number of years clare & limerick are slding badly downwards. Elsewhere Offall y& Wexford are heading in same direction - so in a small pool of contenders to lose 4 or 5 teams is massive.
GAA topbrass need to sort this ASAP.Clare will have a serious team again in 4 or 5 years, serious talent coming through at underage

[Lapsy Pa]

Shame on the people of Limerick for allowing this to happen.

They don't care simple as that.

The fans of the other counties wouldn't allow this to fester in for this long. You reap what you sow.

I think Eamonn Cregan said a few weeks ago on Sunday Sport that the county board, players and Justin should be put into a room and not allowed leave until it's sorted. If only it were that simple

[Linedancers Delight]

Laps and Youghaly I think its fair to point out at this stage that
we do care about it. We'll see after the Championship whether Justin stays or goes.
If he's kept on there'l be ructions.

[Lapsy Pa]

Laps and Youghaly I think its fair to point out at this stage that
we do care about it. We'll see after the Championship whether Justin stays or goes.
If he's kept on there'l be ructions.

They obviously don't care enough though. How can they stand back and allow this to develop.

This season is a total write off for them.

[Linedancers Delight]

The players won't play and Justin won't leave.

[Youghal Exile]

Laps and Youghaly I think its fair to point out at this stage that
we do care about it. We'll see after the Championship whether Justin stays or goes.
If he's kept on there'l be ructions.

There seems to be such a lack of outrage amongst the Limerick public.If this was happening in Cork right now such would the outrage generated the city and county would have been burned to the ground by now with the frenzy we would be in.

[Linedancers Delight]

If this was happening in Cork right now such would the outrage generated the city and county would have been burned to the ground by now with the frenzy we would be in.

You are correct here.

Lets be fair here though of course the Cork public would go spare but that's because ye've endured the heat of being under the spotlight three times in recent years and are predisposed to the whole scene to be quiet honest about it, which cannot be said for us. The public in Limerick are aware that Justin has the remainder of his two year contract to complete, after that if he doesn't go I think there'l a marked change with how the clubs in Limerick will deal with it.

[Langer Dan]

Sad situation really to let a year go by with this jokeshop in charge.
Limerick have lost a year owing to their board's stupidity and this gom's stubborn streak.

No winners.

[Linedancers Delight]

Sad situation really to let a year go by with this jokeshop in charge.
Limerick have lost a year owing to their board's stupidity and this gom's stubborn streak.

No winners.

It's amazing the way things have turned out this year.

I think Justin expected his new panel to tune in to his way of things in a complete sense rather than immerse himself on a personnel level with them.


15 months ago I would have said that was bullshit.
Hopefully it will only be the one year down for Limerick.Div 2 looms.

[blocker]

As long as Justin gets his generous exspenses he doesn't give a fuck. Watch him head for the hills later in the year leaving Limerick Hurling at rock bottom. What a sturborn gobshite. No county will ever touch him again

[Langer Dan]

Erra he's made an awful fool of himself and has done incalcuable damge to Limerick hurling.

It defies belief that the board stood by him though.

[Linedancers Delight]

I won't knock him he's trying to do his job as a manager. This situation would not have arose in the first place if the players hadn't decided to pick this fight and/to have their standoff. There are no angels there. How the fuck did they expect any sympathy from the public when no one knew shit about anything that was going on in the camp.The players made a hambes of garnering any sympathy in this whole dispute by not informing the public through the media from day 1 of their own personnel accounts. It's all turned on it's head now because it'so late in the day. He'd be better off leaving at the the end of his contract rather than seek a new one.

[Barry K O Bama]

It looks like Justin is going to stick it out for the remaining year of his contract.

However, the CB will have a major dilemma then. If justin seeks another term and if he has any principles then he will - how can the CB not give it to him ?

They know what he is capable of and are fully aware that he will win no competitive match and that he is effectively building a new team - he would obviously need more that 1 year to do the job so if he's the right man now then surely he is the right man next year.

It will be interesting to see how the Bozos in the CB save face on this one.

[rebelicecreamman]

Giss are you for real?
Since when is it any players job to inform the dopey Limerick GAA public that their incompetent county board has appointed a dud manager? It is entirely their prerogative if they wish to walk away (they are amateurs). Anything else, as happened in Cork, is above and beyond the call of duty.

That you STILL cannot see this shows how little you have learned. It is the job of the clubs, their delegates, and the county board, to ensure that Limerick is best represented and managed on the field of play. End of.

[Linedancers Delight]

It looks like Justin is going to stick it out for the remaining year of his contract.

However, the CB will have a major dilemma then. If justin seeks another term and if he has any principles then he will - how can the CB not give it to him ?

They know what he is capable of and are fully aware that he will win no competitive match and that he is effectively building a new team - he would obviously need more that 1 year to do the job so if he's the right man now then surely he is the right man next year.

It will be interesting to see how the Bozos in the CB save face on this one.

I agree with you here Ignore I was thinking the same myself.

[Linedancers Delight]

Giss are you for real?
Since when is it any players job to inform the dopey Limerick GAA public that their incompetent county board has appointed a dud manager? It is entirely their prerogative if they wish to walk away (they are amateurs). Anything else, as happened in Cork, is above and beyond the call of duty.

That you STILL cannot see this shows how little you have learned. It is the job of the clubs, their delegates, and the county board, to ensure that Limerick is best represented and managed on the field of play. End of.

There's a smell glue off of you now fuck off.

[rebelicecreamman]

There's a smell glue off of you now fuck off.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

[Linedancers Delight]

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

No it doesn't, the truth is inspiring.

It seems the inter county linedancing sessions between Limerick and Cork since Cork's latest linedanicing fest 2009 have inspired the Limerick linedancers to host their own gala fest this year.

[rebelicecreamman]

Poor Giss.
Incoherent to the bitter end.

[Youghal Exile]

Poor Giss.
Incoherent to the bitter end.

Just when he think he's making sense he starts acting the bollix yet again.

[Linedancers Delight]

Poor Giss.
Incoherent to the bitter end.

Morning. Could you tell me rebelice, what do you mean by that?

[rebelicecreamman]

No it doesn't, the truth is inspiring.

It seems the inter county linedancing sessions between Limerick and Cork since Cork's latest linedanicing fest 2009 have inspired the Limerick linedancers to host their own gala fest this year.

WTF.:rolleyes:

[Linedancers Delight]

Sorry there but what part of that did you not get?

[rebelicecreamman]

Sorry there but what part of that did you not get?

Sure god love us giss. Keep shooting the messengers and ye'll be in division 3 before ye know it.

[Linedancers Delight]

Rebelice I thought you might have figured out by now that I am a very sensitive person. You're being very unfair to me. Tell me where I 'm shooting messengers?

[Linedancers Delight]

You never answered my question rebelice ?

[rebelicecreamman]

[/QUOTE

Fuck that . Let him rebuild a team from scratch . That is what is required in Limerick .[/QUOTE]

In other words, "the current (shambolic) set up is just grand. Who needs the malcontent players?"


Thats called shooting the messenger.
Good luck in Div.3. Watch out for Kerry.

[Linedancers Delight]

[/QUOTE

Fuck that . Let him rebuild a team from scratch . That is what is required in Limerick .

In other words, "the current (shambolic) set up is just grand. Who needs the malcontent players?"


Thats called shooting the messenger.
Good luck in Div.3. Watch out for Kerry.[/QUOTE]

Look when I said that in the back of my mind I knew we needed the players back. I thought for sure they'd have been back by now, hopefully at least there'l be a few back if Justin leaves at the end of the Championship.

I read that Limerick's 2010 panel beat Laois in a very high scoring game the other evening.There are some bright sparks there in fairness to them. Graham Mulcahy and Ritchie McKeogh in the forwards would only improve if there was a mixed panel of experienced and new players. Whatever happens in the Championship I would be satisfied at least to see some good individual performances who will be there to gel with a complete panel next year under a savvy management team.