"The GAA Deserved That Much" - Kidney

[POL]

what a condescending prick, what exactly does he mean by that?

[STEVIEG]

Maybe if you post the context of the statement we could discuss?

What did he say?

[POL]

"We spoke about how special it was going to be if we could leave Croke Park with two games against England and have two wins. We believed the Gaelic Athletic Association deserved that much"

[Eoin]

He was saying that the GAA are small minded cunts hung up on the past.

Or at least thats what you're going to try and tell us anyway.........

[STEVIEG]

"We spoke about how special it was going to be if we could leave Croke Park with two games against England and have two wins. We believed the Gaelic Athletic Association deserved that much"


hmmm


ambigious alright but hard to call

The rugby fraternity always play up the old enemy accross the pond thing

[rebelicecreamman]

"We spoke about how special it was going to be if we could leave Croke Park with two games against England and have two wins. We believed the Gaelic Athletic Association deserved that much"


POL I think your being oversensitive here. Nothing condescending or patronising here. Not in the mans nature.Not by a long shot.

[POL]

He was saying that the GAA are small minded cunts hung up on the past.

Or at least thats what you're going to try and tell us anyway.........Its exactly what he is saying, the same as the anthem issue two years ago when most of the idiots who write about rugby, who, despite being invited into our stadium then had the neck to hijack an atrocity committed against the GAA to illustrate how civilised they were compared to those of us who actually own it, by allowing the English National Anthem to be sung without being booed - the subtext, of course being, that given the same opportunity, the Neanderthals of the GAA would have booed the national anthem, fucking smarmy jock prick

[Eoin]

Its exactly what he is saying, the same as the anthem issue two years ago when most of the idiots who write about rugby, who, despite being invited into our stadium then had the neck to hijack an atrocity committed against the GAA to illustrate how civilised they were compared to those of us who actually own it, by allowing the English National Anthem to be sung without being booed - the subtext, of course being, that given the same opportunity, the Neanderthals of the GAA would have booed the national anthem, fucking smarmy jock prick

God you're tedious.

[POL]

hmmm


ambigious alright but hard to call

The rugby fraternity always play up the old enemy accross the pond thing

Another issue would be the avoidance of the acutely developed sense of inferiority that our rugby jock fraternity have. They don't realise that the reason they celebrate the odd victory over England is that they think that they are actually inferior to England and the English people and that the odd victory is to be celebrated in the manner of a chimps tea party by wearing those fucking leprechaun hats and beards and getting totally rat arsed.

[CORKBHOY]

hmmm


ambigious alright but hard to call

The rugby fraternity always play up the old enemy accross the pond thing

Ya, like the lead up to the first game in Croke Park between Ireland and England they were interviewing players past and present and a few of them said it would be great to beat them with a score of 19-16.

Now if a soccer fan said something of the same nature (well obviously that would be an impossible soccer score but ye see what I'm getting at) they'd be slammed as being immature and labeled bar stool republicans etc.

But when Drico says it it's loike totally funny.

Nearly as funny as his tomatoe jibe,

That was loike hilarious.

[Mick Lyons]

Duggan hits the nail on the head once again.

This time England free to play different role

KEITH DUGGAN

Sat, Feb 28, 2009

SIDELINE CUT: It is time to acknowledge that Ireland versus England, Six Nations 2007, was one of the weirdest evenings in the history of Irish sport

ENGLAND AGAIN! Much has changed since that chill and hazy February evening two years ago when 15 men in pristine white shirts emerged from the tunnel of the Hogan Stand in Croke Park, beaten before they ever took the field. In retrospect, the men wearing the red rose of England that night hadn’t a chance. As John Pullin immortally remarked of his own English team that showed up in Dublin during the tense months of 1972: “We mightn’t always win, but at least we turn up.”

Two years ago, an English rugby team turned up for what was, as they say, a night to remember. But remembered for what? It is time to acknowledge that Ireland versus England, Six Nations 2007, was one of the weirdest evenings in the history of Irish sport.

How could the English have won on an evening aquiver with the weight of a dark episode in Irish history being righted – through a rugby match? Gamely, the boys from the Home Counties appeared on the field. Englishmen, back on Croke Park, so many decades after . . . lest we forget . . . uncertain of how they would be received. The sight of them standing there brought to mind Captain George’s description in Blackadder Goes Forth of his pals as they signed up in August 1914: “Crashingly superb bunch of blokes. Fine, clean-limbed; even our acne had a strange nobility about it.”

They walked out onto the field fully accepting their meek roles in what, with the distance of a full two years, seems an even more bizarre pageant of mixed-up history, sentimentalism, boozy national pride, slick marketing, incessant anthem singing and the vaguely uncomfortable sense that a rugby match had become a mass rally for Irish jingoism. Gravely, the English boys stood along shoulder to shoulder as God Save the Queen sounded over out. They understood the significance of the moment. They understood their presence in Croke Park was a big deal, that the idea of St George’s flag fluttering over the red-bricked terraces of Dublin city evoked keen emotions in the Irish.

And they understood that in the dim and distant past, when Europe was recovering from one world war and assembling the various attitudes and philosophies that would set it on an irrevocable path towards a second, that Englishmen in uniform had once done something terrible in this ground. They knew because they were given a history lecture on Bloody Sunday in the days before the game. Nobody can be certain how that little talk ended, but it might have been along the lines of: “All in all chaps, it might be best if you finished second best in the match.”

So a few lonely-sounding English voices loyally sang their tribute to queen and country and the glories of lost empire in this old sporting theatre, the last bastion of Irish nationalism.

And then the miracle: you could hear a penny drop. That is what we said afterwards, pouring out of the ground and into the super-pubs. The Irish stood up and stood silent and allowed the guests of the nation to sing it out. And we were proud of ourselves.

A bit teary, in fact. We are nothing if not a sentimental lot and never pass up a chance to celebrate ourselves. Look at us now, we marvelled: a mature, sophisticated, modern country. And rich! When it came to our turn for the anthems – Amhrán na bhFiann for Southerners, Phil Coulter’s best for Our Friends in the North – we gave it socks. Shook the foundations of “Croker”.

In fact, we proclaimed, the old girl never had such a good time in all her years. The GAA opened up their hall but it took the rugby crowd to show them how to hold a real dance.

On to the game, and there was only one team in it. Ireland thundered into England and it soon became clear Albion’s challenge was pale. As the match turned into a rout, the atmosphere was raucous and jubilant and it thirsted for more scores, it thirsted for the sight and sensation of an England team crushed in this old theatre of new dreams.

The English team played their part, the English newspapers said all the rights things – were glowing in their praise of us, in fact – and, as their aeroplanes wheeled high over Dublin Bay to deliver them back to Blighty, they must have scratched their heads and wondered what the hell it was all about. If ever the English were destined not to understand the Irish, it was that weekend.

But the whole occasion was all just plain wrong. It was manufactured emotion. The big problem with everything that happened that night was that it overlooked the huge, glaring fact that what happened on Bloody Sunday belongs to GAA culture. It is part of their history. True, there were GAA men in the crowd delighted their stadium could play host to this international sports fixture. But equally, there was a significant minority of GAA people who rued – and continue to – the day when Croke Park was opened up.

And there was still another element who could never quite understand how the memory of what was a real and terrible atrocity could be married to what was a finely tuned international sports event, as if it were somehow part of the programme of events along with the three-course dinners, the advertising and the television hoopla.

It is easy to understand why the night mattered so much to the Irish rugby players. The hype and moral expectation in the days before the game was all but unbearable: whatever about the public forgiving them had they lost, it is unlikely that they would have forgiven themselves. The players were as this group have been throughout: committed and blazing with pride, proud to play for Ireland.

The fault was with the rest of us. It was with everyone who contributed to the myth that Ireland versus England 2007 marked some sort of natural understanding between two nations with a close and bloody past. It was never that. Ireland got carried away with the conjured portents that the evening held and the English sportingly played along. Then, they had no choice to do otherwise.

Two years on and England come back, the underdogs again and thorns in those roses they wear on their breasts. Martin Johnson could recite Henry V’s St Crispin’s Day’s speech for all anyone cares this evening: there is not so much talk about Croke Park as the hallowed ground this time around.

That must be a relief for the English lads. At least they won’t have to listen solemnly to Irish history lessons. At least they won’t have to run into a stadium full of 70,000 Paddies in High Pomposity mode. And at least they won’t have to feel guilty about being English.

[STEVIEG]

True and true

Though in fairness there was plenty of this at play between 1988 and 1990 when soccer was the in-thing in Ireland too

[POL]

Duggan hits the nail on the head once again.

This time England free to play different role

KEITH DUGGAN

Sat, Feb 28, 2009

SIDELINE CUT: It is time to acknowledge that Ireland versus England, Six Nations 2007, was one of the weirdest evenings in the history of Irish sport

ENGLAND AGAIN! Much has changed since that chill and hazy February evening two years ago when 15 men in pristine white shirts emerged from the tunnel of the Hogan Stand in Croke Park, beaten before they ever took the field. In retrospect, the men wearing the red rose of England that night hadn’t a chance. As John Pullin immortally remarked of his own English team that showed up in Dublin during the tense months of 1972: “We mightn’t always win, but at least we turn up.”

Two years ago, an English rugby team turned up for what was, as they say, a night to remember. But remembered for what? It is time to acknowledge that Ireland versus England, Six Nations 2007, was one of the weirdest evenings in the history of Irish sport.

How could the English have won on an evening aquiver with the weight of a dark episode in Irish history being righted – through a rugby match? Gamely, the boys from the Home Counties appeared on the field. Englishmen, back on Croke Park, so many decades after . . . lest we forget . . . uncertain of how they would be received. The sight of them standing there brought to mind Captain George’s description in Blackadder Goes Forth of his pals as they signed up in August 1914: “Crashingly superb bunch of blokes. Fine, clean-limbed; even our acne had a strange nobility about it.”

They walked out onto the field fully accepting their meek roles in what, with the distance of a full two years, seems an even more bizarre pageant of mixed-up history, sentimentalism, boozy national pride, slick marketing, incessant anthem singing and the vaguely uncomfortable sense that a rugby match had become a mass rally for Irish jingoism. Gravely, the English boys stood along shoulder to shoulder as God Save the Queen sounded over out. They understood the significance of the moment. They understood their presence in Croke Park was a big deal, that the idea of St George’s flag fluttering over the red-bricked terraces of Dublin city evoked keen emotions in the Irish.

And they understood that in the dim and distant past, when Europe was recovering from one world war and assembling the various attitudes and philosophies that would set it on an irrevocable path towards a second, that Englishmen in uniform had once done something terrible in this ground. They knew because they were given a history lecture on Bloody Sunday in the days before the game. Nobody can be certain how that little talk ended, but it might have been along the lines of: “All in all chaps, it might be best if you finished second best in the match.”

So a few lonely-sounding English voices loyally sang their tribute to queen and country and the glories of lost empire in this old sporting theatre, the last bastion of Irish nationalism.

And then the miracle: you could hear a penny drop. That is what we said afterwards, pouring out of the ground and into the super-pubs. The Irish stood up and stood silent and allowed the guests of the nation to sing it out. And we were proud of ourselves.

A bit teary, in fact. We are nothing if not a sentimental lot and never pass up a chance to celebrate ourselves. Look at us now, we marvelled: a mature, sophisticated, modern country. And rich! When it came to our turn for the anthems – Amhrán na bhFiann for Southerners, Phil Coulter’s best for Our Friends in the North – we gave it socks. Shook the foundations of “Croker”.

In fact, we proclaimed, the old girl never had such a good time in all her years. The GAA opened up their hall but it took the rugby crowd to show them how to hold a real dance.

On to the game, and there was only one team in it. Ireland thundered into England and it soon became clear Albion’s challenge was pale. As the match turned into a rout, the atmosphere was raucous and jubilant and it thirsted for more scores, it thirsted for the sight and sensation of an England team crushed in this old theatre of new dreams.

The English team played their part, the English newspapers said all the rights things – were glowing in their praise of us, in fact – and, as their aeroplanes wheeled high over Dublin Bay to deliver them back to Blighty, they must have scratched their heads and wondered what the hell it was all about. If ever the English were destined not to understand the Irish, it was that weekend.

But the whole occasion was all just plain wrong. It was manufactured emotion. The big problem with everything that happened that night was that it overlooked the huge, glaring fact that what happened on Bloody Sunday belongs to GAA culture. It is part of their history. True, there were GAA men in the crowd delighted their stadium could play host to this international sports fixture. But equally, there was a significant minority of GAA people who rued – and continue to – the day when Croke Park was opened up.

And there was still another element who could never quite understand how the memory of what was a real and terrible atrocity could be married to what was a finely tuned international sports event, as if it were somehow part of the programme of events along with the three-course dinners, the advertising and the television hoopla.

It is easy to understand why the night mattered so much to the Irish rugby players. The hype and moral expectation in the days before the game was all but unbearable: whatever about the public forgiving them had they lost, it is unlikely that they would have forgiven themselves. The players were as this group have been throughout: committed and blazing with pride, proud to play for Ireland.

The fault was with the rest of us. It was with everyone who contributed to the myth that Ireland versus England 2007 marked some sort of natural understanding between two nations with a close and bloody past. It was never that. Ireland got carried away with the conjured portents that the evening held and the English sportingly played along. Then, they had no choice to do otherwise.

Two years on and England come back, the underdogs again and thorns in those roses they wear on their breasts. Martin Johnson could recite Henry V’s St Crispin’s Day’s speech for all anyone cares this evening: there is not so much talk about Croke Park as the hallowed ground this time around.

That must be a relief for the English lads. At least they won’t have to listen solemnly to Irish history lessons. At least they won’t have to run into a stadium full of 70,000 Paddies in High Pomposity mode. And at least they won’t have to feel guilty about being English.Outstanding

[chabal]

Nonsense, Kidney meant the Irish GAA would have liked to see an Irish victory over England on their pitch after they were good enough to let the Rugby matches go ahead on it.

[liam2me]

Its exactly what he is saying, the same as the anthem issue two years ago when most of the idiots who write about rugby, who, despite being invited into our stadium then had the neck to hijack an atrocity committed against the GAA to illustrate how civilised they were compared to those of us who actually own it, by allowing the English National Anthem to be sung without being booed - the subtext, of course being, that given the same opportunity, the Neanderthals of the GAA would have booed the national anthem, fucking smarmy jock prick
sounds like something you would here from frank murphy

[Mick Lyons]

Another issue would be the avoidance of the acutely developed sense of inferiority that our rugby jock fraternity have. They don't realise that the reason they celebrate the odd victory over England is that they think that they are actually inferior to England and the English people and that the odd victory is to be celebrated in the manner of a chimps tea party by wearing those fucking leprechaun hats and beards and getting totally rat arsed.

Get in there. :D

[Eoin]

Seriously, its like fucking deja vu here.

[Mick Lyons]

I get the feeling you've said that before.

[CORKBHOY]

Seriously, its like fucking deja vu here.

Have you said that before?

[mightyquark]

sounds like something you would here from frank murphy

Get in there:p

[Eoin]

I get the feeling you've said that before.

Seriously, its like fucking Deja Vu around here.

[STEVIEG]

Seriously, its like fucking Deja Vu around here.

heh heh heh

Or should i say

heh heh heh

[shamoverhere]

Nonsense, Kidney meant the Irish GAA would have liked to see an Irish victory over England on their pitch after they were good enough to let the Rugby matches go ahead on it.

Jesus man where do you get off coming onto one of POL's threads and actually saying something which is simple and makes plain sense?

sheeesh

[Mick Lyons]

"We spoke about how special it was going to be if we could leave Croke Park with two games against England and have two wins. We believed the Gaelic Athletic Association deserved that much"

I can just picture the dressing room before the game.
"Lets win this one for the GAA!"
Who actually falls for this guff. :rolleyes:

[mightyquark]

With all the money the GAA made from these foreign sports will they be supporting Seamus "Anglo" Ross in his time of need?After all he is a big GAA supporter in more ways than one.Sher dont his horses and jockeys wear silks in the colours of the home town Father Manning Gaels GAA club in Drumlish?

[Lamps]

Great catch POL. I heard this after the game last week,and the very same thought struck me. Who the fuck does Kidney think he is?

There are two ways to look at this:
a)England are just another team and should be treated as such.
b)England should never be allowed onto Croke park pitch after what happened.


Personally I've matured as a nation and am not bothered by England, but I also didn't want Croke park opened as the GAA is in direct competition with rugby and soccer.
What I can't stand is this shit from the likes of Kidney and the jocks, that we should let Rugby onto the pitch where bloody sunday happened so that they can do us a fucking favour and sort out the English. What a load of condescending bullshit. Certainly the most unpleasant line of the weekend.

[mightyquark]

Great catch POL. I heard this after the game last week,and the very same thought struck me. Who the fuck does Kidney think he is?

There are two ways to look at this:
a)England are just another team and should be treated as such.
b)England should never be allowed onto Croke park pitch after what happened.


Personally I've matured as a nation and am not bothered by England, but I also didn't want Croke park opened as the GAA is in direct competition with rugby and soccer.
What I can't stand is this shit from the likes of Kidney and the jocks, that we should let Rugby onto the pitch where bloody sunday happened so that they can do us a fucking favour and sort out the English. What a load of condescending bullshit. Certainly the most unpleasant line of the weekend.

Soccer and Rugby clubs all over the world have been mature enough for many decades now to allow the Irish diaspara to play its gaelic games on its
pitches.

[liam2me]

Soccer and Rugby clubs all over the world have been mature enough for many decades now to allow the Irish diaspara to play its gaelic games on its
pitches.
fr. murphy's for one train at harrow rugby club.

i wonder how this fits into their small minded equation

[tim the trip]

Great catch POL. I heard this after the game last week,and the very same thought struck me. Who the fuck does Kidney think he is?

There are two ways to look at this:
a)England are just another team and should be treated as such.
b)England should never be allowed onto Croke park pitch after what happened.


Personally I've matured as a nation and am not bothered by England, but I also didn't want Croke park opened as the GAA is in direct competition with rugby and soccer.
What I can't standis this shit from the likes of Kidney and the jocks, that we should let Rugby onto the pitch where bloody sunday happened so that they can do us a fucking favour and sort out the English. What a load of condescending bullshit. Certainly the most unpleasant line of the weekend.

condescending ? well if thats how you take it i suppose.
at least its true. the soccarballars are not able to do it, and gaa lacks an international format, in which this can be achieved.
whats your solution?

let it go.

[mightyquark]

Pol
arent you into Horse Racing and GAA???
How do you view the current pedicament with Seamus "Golden Circle" Ross?

Lamps
You are into the classic "Land" question with regard to the GAA.
So how do you view Jerry"Golden Circle" Conlans involvement in selling on GAA land and reclocation of GAA clubs for personal prophit(For both Conlan and GAA) fueled by loans that are left at the door of the Irish tax payer?

[Lamps]

Lamps
You are into the classic "Land" question with regard to the GAA.
So how do you view Jerry"Golden Circle" Conlans involvement in selling on GAA land and reclocation of GAA clubs for personal prophit(For both Conlan and GAA) fueled by loans that are left at the door of the Irish tax payer?

what

[raZor]

If this is the level of threads popping up now then both the SFI and the Sports Forum have gone to shit.

Although it is POL and his post were never above gutter level really!

[VzN]

I think this has been taken a bit seriously. Beating England is good for Gaelic pride. We should celebrate this win and then move on. Why kick up such a fuss over a small statement?

[Lamps]

You either mature as a nation and accept England like the SFI do or you keep the doors shut because of 1916 and 1920. One or the other.
Kidney comments remind me of the Coronation street watching Irish lad in the ManYoo jersey hoping the English soccer team get bate who sings rebel songs on Friday night.

I thought he'd have to the sense to at least keep that kind of rubbish to himself

[HappyMonday83]

You either mature as a nation and accept England like the SFI do or you keep the doors shut because of 1916 and 1920. One or the other.
Kidney comments remind me of the Coronation street watching Irish lad in the ManYoo jersey hoping the English soccer team get bate who sings rebel songs on Friday night.

I thought he'd have to the sense to at least keep that kind of rubbish to himself

You can always tell a johnny come lately rugby fan by his attitude towards the english. Your average bandwagon take the "old enemy" approach as if english rugby has done the arish wrong. Where as your genuine supporter with an interest that goes further back than 2000 will be aware of a time back in 72 when both scotland and wales refused to play in dublin. It was only the English in 73 who'd the balls to play in ireland. I remember watching it on the tv and the English players getting a standing ovation from the irish crowd as they ran onto the pitch.
As far as i'm concerned that is a debt that remains unpaid. Yet today I see the yobbish behavior of some people towards English rugby and I wonder is it the greatest lack of gratitude that exists in sport today?

[Langer Dan]

Was at the Arland-England game on saturday and I have to agree with POL it was an absolute disgrace.

My steak was too much on the pink side for my liking and the free bar shut up after an hour!

[Coin]

POL getting wummed by Kidney. Nice.

[Lee Bushwacker]

You can always tell a johnny come lately rugby fan by his attitude towards the english. Your average bandwagon take the "old enemy" approach as if english rugby has done the arish wrong. Where as your genuine supporter with an interest that goes further back than 2000 will be aware of a time back in 72 when both scotland and wales refused to play in dublin. It was only the English in 73 who'd the balls to play in ireland. I remember watching it on the tv and the English players getting a standing ovation from the irish crowd as they ran onto the pitch.
As far as i'm concerned that is a debt that remains unpaid. Yet today I see the yobbish behavior of some people towards English rugby and I wonder is it the greatest lack of gratitude that exists in sport today?

:D
Spot on.
At the after match reception the English captain remarked that his side "weren't the best in the world but at least they showed up".

In the 1980s The Rolling Stones & Simple Minds played at Croke Park. U2 & Wacko Jacko played at Pairc Uí Chaoimh. Hardly paragons of gaeldom.
Then again the GAA "powers that be" have shown their capacity for "gowldom" at times due to their "head up the arse" mentality! :rolleyes:

[Edmund Blackwater]

Remember when the Arish Times paid yer man to wear a celtic jersey and hold up the sign?
That was a good one, in fairness.

The media campaign promoting rugby while simultaneusly knocking our own sports has been very sophistocated. They seemed very lax about admitting that the GAA actually changed it's own rules in order to help the west brits. Yet the westies mock the GAA, an organisation far more progressive than their Pale rooted one will ever be, for being begrudgers.

It's laughable when you think about it.

[Eoin]

Remember when the Arish Times paid yer man to wear a celtic jersey and hold up the sign?
That was a good one, in fairness.

The media campaign promoting rugby while simultaneusly knocking our own sports has been very sophistocated. They seemed very lax about admitting that the GAA actually changed it's own rules in order to help the west brits. Yet the westies mock the GAA, an organisation far more progressive than their Pale rooted one will ever be, for being begrudgers.

It's laughable when you think about it.

The only idiots mocking the GAA are people like Brad. He's not representative of most rugby fans, just in the same way that POL and Lamps are not representative of most GAA fans.

I've never mocked the GAA, I go to hurling matches all the time. It is actually possible, you know, to like more than one sport.

[Tube a Pringles]

My steak was too much on the pink side for my liking and the free bar shut up after an hour!

Bogman.......

[johnmcork]

deccie for taoiseach!!!!!

[STEVIEG]

:D
Spot on.
At the after match reception the English captain remarked that his side "weren't the best in the world but at least they showed up".

In the 1980s The Rolling Stones & Simple Minds played at Croke Park. U2 & Wacko Jacko played at Pairc Uí Chaoimh. Hardly paragons of gaeldom.
Then again the GAA "powers that be" have shown their capacity for "gowldom" at times due to their "head up the arse" mentality! :rolleyes:

In defence of Michael Jackson, it has to be said that Bubbles was a huge fan of Na Pairsaig and La Toya once was touted as being an excellent camogie player

allegedly

[cantankerous bastard]

Remember when the Arish Times paid yer man to wear a celtic jersey and hold up the sign?
That was a good one, in fairness.


What?

[Lamps]

The only idiots mocking the GAA are people like Brad. He's not representative of most rugby fans, just in the same way that POL and Lamps are not representative of most GAA fans.

I've never mocked the GAA, I go to hurling matches all the time. It is actually possible, you know, to like more than one sport.

You said you prefer music to sport though.

[Eoin]

You said you prefer music to sport though.

And that matters why??

The 2 are not mutually exclusive. I was at the match on saturday and I was out DJing saturday night. Both are important to me.

[mightyquark]

what

Answer the question ...simple..

[Edmund Blackwater]

What?
no speakey english?

[Lamps]

Answer the question ...simple..

What is the question?

Was someone involved in some sort of illegal or immoral activity? I don't know the story.

[mightyquark]

What is the question?

Was someone involved in some sort of illegal or immoral activity? I don't know the story.

Go on then... throw up the smokescreen...
You know what the question is and you cant answer it .Fair enough then.

[Lamps]

Go on then... throw up the smokescreen...
You know what the question is and you cant answer it .Fair enough then.

I'll fully answer it if you explain the situation and circumstances of whatever it is you want my opinion on. Explain it to me or forget about. Don't expect me to go googling that badly written impossible to read scribble from earlier. I think thats fair?

[mightyquark]

I'll fully answer it if you explain the situation and circumstances of whatever it is you want my opinion on. Explain it to me or forget about. Don't expect me to go googling that badly written impossible to read scribble from earlier. I think thats fair?

Poor Lamps...

[Mick Lyons]

Up to your old tricks again Mightyquack?
i.e. make some vague statement about underhand dealings in the GAA (possibly over 60 years ago) then refuse to elaborate and accuse everyone else of dodging the question.
If you have something to say, spit it out FFS.

[Langer Dan]

Bogman.......

I am not, I like it medium, not rare.

If I'm getting corporate hospitality, it would want to be upto scratch.

[Lee Bushwacker]

In defence of Michael Jackson, it has to be said that Bubbles was a huge fan of Na Pairsaig and La Toya once was touted as being an excellent camogie player

allegedly

:wink:
Thought he was a West Ham fan.
"i'm forever blowing bubbles" :twisted:

[mightyquark]

Up to your old tricks again Mightyquack?
i.e. make some vague statement about underhand dealings in the GAA (possibly over 60 years ago) then refuse to elaborate and accuse everyone else of dodging the question.
If you have something to say, spit it out FFS.

What planet are you on?This is this weeks news...Might be a bit complicated for you though...
This is basic stuff kid..
A certain member of the Golden Cirlce has been selling and relocating GAA grounds using tax payers money all to the benefit of himself and the GAA.
Was wondering how people feel with regard to the whoring of the hallowed turf especially those of you who play the croker card.

Whats this Mr Lyons yet another GAA head in a position of power and trust abusing it?..I guess its in the DNA a possible right of inheritance?
For the past,have a read off Val Dorgans Christy Ring book..its full of it ..would make ya cringe...good book though.


Still waiting for Pol to answer by the way.

[Mick Lyons]

Put up some links or STFU.
I've better things to be doing than following up your vague meanderings.

[mightyquark]

Put up some links or STFU.
I've better things to be doing than following up your vague meanderings.

Rattled kid!!!!

You keep running Micky boy...stick your head in the sand and the GAA problems will go away or..Read a newspaper or pay attention to when the news in on.Particularly to political debates..

[Mick Lyons]

I read the newspaper and watch the news everyday.
Obviously I lack your keen eye for detail.
And your vivid imagination.

[mightyquark]

I read the newspaper and watch the news everyday.
Obviously I lack your keen eye for detail.
And your vivid imagination.

Obviously you dont have a developed attention span for issues involving the GAA...

[Dj Sparks]

He was saying that the GAA are small minded cunts hung up on the past.

Or at least thats what you're going to try and tell us anyway.........

ha ha ha. GOLD!

[Mick Lyons]

Obviously you dont have a developed attention span for issues involving the GAA...

You're making a fool of yourself. :D

[mightyquark]

You're making a fool of yourself. :D

I would say you have selective attention disorder :D

Mick..this is not hard...read the first thing I wrote with the name of the fellah..it has been discussed on Radio (RTE) debated in political forums etc...Funny though it is mainly a GAA head and a fellah from the K club...(That must hurt:D)
Its simple if you want to live in denial then thats ok..but if you are witch hunting Rugby (its game and fans)..then you must accept that even now many GAA people have used their standing and releationship within the organistion for self gain.

[Poc Fada]

who, despite being invited into our stadium then had the neck to hijack an atrocity committed against the GAA to illustrate how civilised they were compared to those of us who actually own it, by allowing the English National Anthem to be sung without being booed - the subtext, of course being, that given the same opportunity, the Neanderthals of the GAA would have booed the national anthem, fucking smarmy jock prick

I don't even know what you're on about anymore. I can't work out what side you're on, or if there's even a side you're on.

[mightyquark]

I read the newspaper and watch the news everyday.
Obviously I lack your keen eye for detail.
And your vivid imagination.

Yeah I know..next thing I will be saying that the GAA lads are trying to censor the PROC and that a big dog on the revenue commison is giving diplomatic immunity to certain Cork fat cats.

[Mick Lyons]

I would say you have selective attention disorder :D

Mick..this is not hard...read the first thing I wrote with the name of the fellah..it has been discussed on Radio (RTE) debated in political forums etc...Funny though it is mainly a GAA head and a fellah from the K club...(That must hurt:D)
Its simple if you want to live in denial then thats ok..but if you are witch hunting Rugby (its game and fans)..then you must accept that even now many GAA people have used their standing and releationship within the organistion for self gain.

If it has been discussed on the radio then why have you not got the balls to repeat it here?

[mightyquark]

Pol
arent you into Horse Racing and GAA???
How do you view the current pedicament with Seamus "Golden Circle" Ross?

Lamps
You are into the classic "Land" question with regard to the GAA.
So how do you view Jerry"Golden Circle" Conlans involvement in selling on GAA land and reclocation of GAA clubs for personal prophit(For both Conlan and GAA) fueled by loans that are left at the door of the Irish tax payer?

There ya go Mick..your selective GAA memory has let you down again.You should be working with Frank on the County board you could be the gobetween with the Revenue commision:)

[Mick Lyons]

God this is the poorest display of INTERNETTING we've seen in a long time.
Hang your head in shame.

[Lamps]

If someone is fucking about ripping people off then I wouldn't condone that. Why would I?

Is that what you want to do Quacky, get us to defend something illegal cos someone is a GAA member? Was this you cunning plan?

As Mick says poor INTERNETTing.

At the end of the day, only one poster on this website believes man can fly

[mightyquark]

If someone is fucking about ripping people off then I wouldn't condone that. Why would I?

Is that what you want to do Quacky, get us to defend something illegal cos someone is a GAA member? Was this you cunning plan?

As Mick says poor INTERNETTing.

At the end of the day, only one poster on this website believes man can fly

Ladies and Gentle men I do believe we have a serious case of extreme RATTLEMENT!!!
Do you and lover boy Mick live together or is it just split personality or maybe seperated at birth?
At the end of the day the SFI dont understand the word technique.

[DogTheLangerHunter]

Its exactly what he is saying, the same as the anthem issue two years ago when most of the idiots who write about rugby, who, despite being invited into our stadium then had the neck to hijack an atrocity committed against the GAA to illustrate how civilised they were compared to those of us who actually own it, by allowing the English National Anthem to be sung without being booed - the subtext, of course being, that given the same opportunity, the Neanderthals of the GAA would have booed the national anthem, fucking smarmy jock prick

Pol's off form badly.

[mightyquark]

God this is the poorest display of INTERNETTING we've seen in a long time.
Hang your head in shame.

Ha Ha Nice try...a typical Mick answer when he is exposed..why not try your classic "Ill deal with you later"..thats a good one....

I mean this is basic stuff...I will give you one more chance..go through it all again..or maybe just ask an adult to explain it to you.

[mightyquark]

Pol's off form badly.

Lamps and Mick or aswell...hard to tell who is who but they are having a bad one.

[Mick Lyons]

Ha Ha Nice try...a typical Mick answer when he is exposed..why not try your classic "Ill deal with you later"..thats a good one....

I mean this is basic stuff...I will give you one more chance..go through it all again..or maybe just ask an adult to explain it to you.

You.......are....... .out......of........ ..your......depth... ......lad.

[mightyquark]

You.......are....... .out......of........ ..your......depth... ......lad.

Nah Mick I am wearing a helmet so that makes everything alright:D

You my lad are lost...its like Santa..you know he doesnt exist? then a few years after puberty some things will fall into place and the hormones will stop blinding your common sense.
"We dont live in a yellow submarine ,cry the unemployed of Cahirciveen."

[Mick Lyons]

Hmmmmmm.
You remind me of someone.
Posting the same drivel over and over again no matter how daft it makes you look.
No credible answers to the questions that are put to you.
Anti-GAA.
Are you The Zurich Connection by any chance?

[mightyquark]

Hmmmmmm.
You remind me of someone.
Posting the same drivel over and over again no matter how daft it makes you look.

No credible answers to the questions that are put to you.
Anti-GAA.
Are you The Zurich Connection by any chance?

Not Anti GAA at all young fellah...Think they are great games.I will put it this way...I love music but the industry is vile.
Your the one with no answers here...I have put some simple questions up...

Posting the same drivel?..you have just pawned yourself lad..look back at every rugby releated post..get out of here your only half a fool.

By the way does anyone else know why the PROC was down for while ?

[Mick Lyons]

You actually wrote "pawned".
Oh the humanity.:D

[mightyquark]

You actually wrote "pawned".
Oh the humanity.:D

Is it true you Pm'd yourself?...

[Mick Lyons]

You're not so cocky all of a sudden.
I wonder why that is? :D

[mightyquark]

You're not so cocky all of a sudden.
I wonder why that is? :D

Its hard to be cocky while pissing yourself laughing...you sort of lose concentration....Act ually to be honest I dont know what you are talking about.....
You are not having a good night on here are you Mick?

[Mick Lyons]

I'm having a great night.
You jumped the fence baby! :D

[mightyquark]

I'm having a great night.
You jumped the fence baby! :D

Poor Mick resoted to entertaing himself with Dunphyisms:p

[mightyquark]

Frankie in dodgy CCB accounts shocka?????
Mick???????????????? ????