Fergie at UTD trophies won

[blackie]

Manchester United (1986–present)
Premier League: 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08
FA Cup: 1989–90, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
League Cup: 1991–92, 2005–06, 2008-09
UEFA Champions League: 1998–99, 2007–08
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1990–91

[duffer31]

Manchester United (1986–present)
Premier League: 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08
FA Cup: 1989–90, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
League Cup: 1991–92, 2005–06, 2008-09
UEFA Champions League: 1998–99, 2007–08
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1990–91

you forgot the super cups/world cup championships. its 24 trophies in 23 years. still missing one from that somewhere.

[ebenezer]

Well done Mark Robins.

TBH, I don't mind Fergie.

[JTC]

you forgot the super cups/world cup championships. its 24 trophies in 23 years. still missing one from that somewhere.

There was two different World Club Cup things, the one in 99 was the Intercontinental Cup and the one in December 08 was the Fifa Club World Cup, so he has won one of each plus the super cup in 91 as you mentioned, which gives you the 24

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

no charity shields included?
bit of a mockery tbf

[STEVIEG]

Charity shields mean nothing and should not count as trophies

unless you are Houllier and Rafa

[Edmund Blackwater]

I heard some lad, probably Andy Gray, going on about manyoo's pursuit of 5 major trophies this season.
I thought there was only 3 available to them...and the way things are going, it's a push calling the FA Cup a major trophy.

[The Godfather]

tis some achievement....repla cing him is going to simply be an impossible job and a poisin chalice

[Edmund Blackwater]

tis some achievement....repla cing him is going to simply be an impossible job and a poisin chalice
Shouldn't be too hard to replace him. Give any manager unlimited funds and they'll win a prem within 8 years, just as ferguson did.

[Lee Bushwacker]

Shouldn't be too hard to replace him. Give any manager unlimited funds and they'll win a prem within 8 years, just as ferguson did.

:eek:
Ferguson hasn't always had the so called "unlimited funds". When he signed Dwight Yorke he had to include the fee in the following year's budget. This was after Keegan had paid 15,000,000 for Alan Shearer and no comments were made about unlimited Geordie funds. Half the 99 treble winners had come from the United youth sides i.e. Giggs, Becks, Neville, Butt & Scholes.
Mourhino, on the other hand had cash to spend on players such as Duff & Wright-Phillips, who he left on the bench most of the time. With all the wealth available Mourihno bought 2 P.Ls but he and "petrol man" couldn't buy a C.L.
Why don't you shut your anti-United/Ferguson craptrap for once and for all you bitter piece of cabbage-head! :-x

[AmadeusDC]

:eek:
Ferguson hasn't always had the so called "unlimited funds". When he signed Dwight Yorke he had to include the fee in the following year's budget. This was after Keegan had paid 15,000,000 for Alan Shearer and no comments were made about unlimited Geordie funds. Half the 99 treble winners had come from the United youth sides i.e. Giggs, Becks, Neville, Butt & Scholes.
Mourhino, on the other hand had cash to spend on players such as Duff & Wright-Phillips, who he left on the bench most of the time. With all the wealth available Mourihno bought 2 P.Ls but he and "petrol man" couldn't buy a C.L.
Why don't you shut your anti-United/Ferguson craptrap for once and for all you bitter piece of cabbage-head! :-x

(i) The Shearer transfer was HUGE news and there was lots of talk of newcastle spending REALLY big money around that time. Les Ferdinand, Warren Barton, Tino Asprilla etc. Shearer blew those out of the water which says a lot.

(ii) Ferguson broke various records signing players in the first half of his reign at United.... Pallister, Keane and Andy Cole amongst others.

(iii) 12.6 million pounds for Dwight Yorke was 84% of the British Record at the time and 59% of the World Record. That would be 27.3 million now or 27.1 million respectively now. I'm not surprised he had to put it in the budget.

(iv) Duff was a Ranieri signing

Lee I agree with you that Ferguson has been unreal and his performance cannot be questions (these people are wumming I believe) but some of the above has to be put in perspective.

-AmadeusDC-

[STEVIEG]

Give any manager unlimited funds and they'll win a prem within 8 years, just as ferguson did.

I refer you to the above thread

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showthread.php?t=120 864

I also refer you to the above manager

http://i44.tinypic.com/ivbxba.jpg

and the above drink

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wgxa3p.jpg

:)

[AmadeusDC]

I also refer you to the above manager

http://i44.tinypic.com/ivbxba.jpg

:)


FFS Stevie! He has 7 and a 1/2 more years to win one. If they are as patient with him as United were with Fergie (they never will be) then I'd say Sparky will win one in that time frame. Fergie started with very little (and a terrible drink culture), Wenger with an average squad but a great core, Mourinho inherited Ranieri's challenging team which was still a Champions League team when he was given the money, Benitez inherited a top 4 side. Hughes inherited SWEET FUCK ALL in comparison!

-AmadeusDC-

[STEVIEG]

FFS Stevie! He has 7 and a 1/2 more years to win one. If they are as patient with him as United were with Fergie (they never will be) then I'd say Sparky will win one in that time frame. Fergie started with very little (and a terrible drink culture), Wenger with an average squad but a great core, Mourinho inherited Ranieri's challenging team which was still a Champions League team when he was given the money, Benitez inherited a top 4 side. Hughes inherited SWEET FUCK ALL in comparison!

-AmadeusDC-

Not a hope in hell these guys will win the league in the next ten years

And you can quote me on that

I'm using Man City as an example that money can't buy everything

See also Chelsea and Lazio in the Champions League, and a million other teams in domestic leagues

[duffer31]

man change the record. money or not it will be hard to replace fergie. simple as. football is all about money unfortunately. its about the clubs that have and the clubs that have not and will always be. money ,cheats and bungs will always exist in football.

*awaits the usual gin soak and ronaldo comments. yawn....

[Edmund Blackwater]

Not a hope in hell these guys will win the league in the next ten years

And you can quote me on that

I'm using Man City as an example that money can't buy everything

See also Chelsea and Lazio in the Champions League, and a million other teams in domestic leagues
8 years is alot of time, Stephen. I think there's a chance that City could do it in that time. Moreso if they stick with one manager for that period.

Also, you're being unfair on Chelsea. It took manyoo/ferguson a long time to do anything of note in the champs league. Even longer to win it. Chelsea have performed consistently well in the competition.

Lazio are/were always a shite club. The old Roma.

[AmadeusDC]

8 years is alot of time, Stephen. I think there's a chance that City could do it in that time. Moreso if they stick with one manager for that period.

Also, you're being unfair on Chelsea. It took manyoo/ferguson a long time to do anything of note in the champs league. Even longer to win it. Chelsea have performed consistently well in the competition.

Lazio are/were always a shite club. The old Roma.

Agreed

[STEVIEG]

8 years is alot of time, Stephen. I think there's a chance that City could do it in that time. Moreso if they stick with one manager for that period.

Also, you're being unfair on Chelsea. It took manyoo/ferguson a long time to do anything of note in the champs league. Even longer to win it. Chelsea have performed consistently well in the competition.

Lazio are/were always a shite club. The old Roma.

Not a hope in hell

United have a far better record in the Champions League than Chelsea

I can't remember ANY London teams winning it or the European Cup, Chelsea included

Man City don't even know what Europe is

Mark Hughes should be trying to get them a top 6 finish before he even dreams of anything else

He probably won't be there too long anyway but it's no harm as ultimately, he will get embarassed by being associated with a joke of a club who arrogantly thought they could piss on AC Milan recently, and who's Chief Executive is the laughing stock of Europe

The owners came along with big bucks and tried to buy success and some of the more deluded fans, not the ones here it has to be said, bought it and lapped it up

You could have bought Manchester United for the price of Craig Bellamy a couple of years into Fergies reign, he has built that club up and deserves to spend a fraction of the money that he has brought them thanks to his overwhelming success

Only the most deluded and bitter would argue with that

[Edmund Blackwater]

Not a hope in hell

United have a far better record in the Champions League than Chelsea

I can't remember ANY London teams winning it or the European Cup, Chelsea included

Man City don't even know what Europe is
I meant in ferguson's time.
How long did it take them to get out of the group stages?
Wasn't beating Porto, Porto FFS, their first major result in the comp?
It was 99 before they won it...14 years(?) after Ferguson took over.
Chelsea have been in the semis twice and a final in the last few years.

[STEVIEG]

I meant in ferguson's time.
How long did it take them to get out of the group stages?
Wasn't beating Porto, Porto FFS, their first major result in the comp?
It was 99 before they won it...14 years(?) after Ferguson took over.
Chelsea have been in the semis twice and a final in the last few years.

Doubt anyone has got to the last 8 more

United won a European Trophy within his years of his reign, in the first years back after a ban that cost English teams their competitiveness

Obviously, the real trophy took longewr but as usual, United were the first English side to prevail, just like in 68 they won the first Champions Legaue for England in 99

He has won the Champions League twice, not many have done better, despite him admitting he should have done much better himself

How many times have Chelsea won the Champions league/European Cup

Is that what Roman splashed his cash on?

Losing semi-finalists or finalists in his own corrupt back yard?

I doubt it

Man City won't be bridging the gap too soon either

1 Man Utd 27 12 1 0 30 5 8 4 2 18 7 36 65
2 Chelsea 28 7 5 2 23 8 10 2 2 25 8 32 58
3 Liverpool 28 8 6 0 22 8 8 4 2 23 12 25 58
4 Aston Villa 28 5 7 2 20 15 10 0 4 22 14 13 52
5 Arsenal 28 7 5 2 18 11 6 5 3 23 15 15 49
6 Everton 28 5 5 4 20 16 7 4 3 16 12 8 45
7 West Ham 28 7 1 6 19 17 4 5 5 15 17 0 39
8 Man City 28 9 0 5 30 12 1 5 8 15 24 9 35

30 points is a lifetime away my friends

Don't believe the hype

[Edmund Blackwater]

Doubt anyone has got to the last 8 more

United won a European Trophy within his years of his reign, in the first years back after a ban that cost English teams their competitiveness

Obviously, the real trophy took longewr but as usual, United were the first English side to prevail, just like in 68 they won the first Champions Legaue for England in 99

He has won the Champions League twice, not many have done better, despite him admitting he should have done much better himself

How many times have Chelsea won the Champions league/European Cup

Is that what Roman splashed his cash on?

Losing semi-finalists or finalists in his own corrupt back yard?

I doubt it
He won the poorest european trophy there was.
They didn't win it for England, they won it for themselves.
He has won the champions league twice in nearly 25 years.
Chelsea have only really been competing at this level for 6 years. In that time they've by far outperformed ferguson's manyoo in his first 6 years in the competition.
You're going down a slippery slope talking about corruption seeing as manyoo players seem to be able to do what they like on the pitch and winning the ball against them is deemed a foul.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Man City won't be bridging the gap too soon either

1 Man Utd 27 12 1 0 30 5 8 4 2 18 7 36 65
2 Chelsea 28 7 5 2 23 8 10 2 2 25 8 32 58
3 Liverpool 28 8 6 0 22 8 8 4 2 23 12 25 58
4 Aston Villa 28 5 7 2 20 15 10 0 4 22 14 13 52
5 Arsenal 28 7 5 2 18 11 6 5 3 23 15 15 49
6 Everton 28 5 5 4 20 16 7 4 3 16 12 8 45
7 West Ham 28 7 1 6 19 17 4 5 5 15 17 0 39
8 Man City 28 9 0 5 30 12 1 5 8 15 24 9 35

30 points is a lifetime away my friends

Don't believe the hype
Are you suggesting manyoo should be allowed carry over their points winning margin each season? I bet even Ferguson hasn't thought of that. Now that manyoo have a man on the inside at the FA, it might be worth a shot.

[STEVIEG]

He won the poorest european trophy there was.
They didn't win it for England, they won it for themselves.
He has won the champions league twice in nearly 25 years.
Chelsea have only really been competing at this level for 6 years. In that time they've by far outperformed ferguson's manyoo in his first 6 years in the competition.
You're going down a slippery slope talking about corruption seeing as manyoo players seem to be able to do what they like on the pitch and winning the ball against them is deemed a foul.

The irony of what you just said is flabbergasting

United couldn't even compete in europe due to heysel for some of those years yet you are counting years and adding years where Fergie wasn't even there (nearly 25 years?), while making excuses for Chelsea who were shit on a stick for years but well competitive by the mid 90's

Bitter

[Edmund Blackwater]

The irony of what you just said is flabbergasting

United couldn't even compete in europe due to heysel for some of those years yet you are counting years and adding years where Fergie wasn't even there (nearly 25 years?), while making excuses for Chelsea who were shit on a stick for years but well competitive by the mid 90's

Bitter
ok, scratch the 25 years.
Address the rest of it.

[STEVIEG]

ok, scratch the 25 years.
Address the rest of it.

Fergies first few years is all you have to hang on to really

a time where he changed everything in the background of the club


I often hear rafa apologists clinging to this too, forgetting that in his tenure his club have turned their back on their famous youth policy and are not that closer to owning their own ground etc etc-not all his fault obviously but i doubt 20 years of domestic dominance awaits, put it that way---Fergie made massive strides and despite early mistakes, the rest is history

Deal with it

[Edmund Blackwater]

Fergies first few years is all you have to hang on to really

a time where he changed everything in the background of the club


I often hear rafa apologists clinging to this too, forgetting that in his tenure his club have turned their back on their famous youth policy and are not that closer to owning their own ground etc etc-not all his fault obviously but i doubt 20 years of domestic dominance awaits, put it that way---Fergie made massive strides and despite early mistakes, the rest is history

Deal with it
What a load of claptrap.
I can see you're backed into a corner here. It's friday and I'm feeling generous.
Run along now.

[STEVIEG]

Shouldn't be too hard to replace him. Give any manager unlimited funds and they'll win a prem within 8 years, just as ferguson did.

Claptrap indeed


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