Should the PROC lead the charge in answer to the 2008 panel's call?

[Corcaigh32]

Letters, texts, web, Echo, protest marches. The players are depending on the Cork Hurling public to support them - 370 pages of posts - the PROC is the place where the "O'Connor's as clones" was published. Now is the time. Please vote Yes if you support the players and want the PROC's extensive media presence brought to bear in support of them or No if you don't. Thanks.

[bigboyfoolish]

100% all the way..

Let's Go!!

[The Banker]

Yes, The PROC is the essence of Cork and as such should lead the way...

[Lapsy Pa]

This is a CORK matter hence the PROC'S involvement. Who else is gonna do it.

National and local coverage is a joke. Have to do it for the players who gave us so much enjoyment and ammunition when taunting people from outside PROC

[Liathroidi Mor]

Ya drive it on!!!! Get a good protest organised and we'll drum up support!!! Surely the PROC will dedicate their 1 page spread on Thurs echo to this cause!!!

[cork*girl]

Things need to be done ASAP, before its too late!! 100% support for the '08 hurling panel

[Poison]

I am ready and i will march anyday and my family will be alongside me.

100% behind the '08 players.

[BlackAvon08]

Yes - its time to answer the players' call publically. We can't depend on the national or local media - they are a pure joke.

[cit_gym_rat]

what if we think the hurlers are a fucking disgrace and the bane of the county

[Corcaigh32]

what if we think the hurlers are a fucking disgrace and the bane of the county

Then I presume you voted No and I respect your opinion in that instance.

[freakscene]

I'll be there and I know plenty of others who appreciate what this panel have done for both hurling and football in this county in the past, and what they are trying to do for the future of the game in this county.

Maybe CIT_GYm_Rat is the one person in this country who thinks Gerald is the best man to turn around Cork's hurling fortunes and that Frank Murphy's decisions and actions are always pure in intention.

[Corcaigh32]

Consensus seems to be growing around 1p.m. Daunt Square on Sunday week.

[The Devil]

Fuck the 08 panel. they are tratiors to the rerbel red. Let them rot in my house. If they don't want to play for their county then they can retire with their memories (which were all good imo).

[legend76]

well said C32, respect

[wunhunglo]

what if we think the hurlers are a fucking disgrace and the bane of the county


The rest of us will be thinking you'll be one of the 50 or so people watching the 'league' game against Dublin!

[Blarney Rock]

Fuck the 08 panel. they are tratiors to the rerbel red. Let them rot in my house. If they don't want to play for their county then they can retire with their memories (which were all good imo).

Genuinely laughing my ass off. Why would you want them to rot in your house? Wouldn't they smell a bit?

Frank Murphy is the real traitor in all this. Ger Mac is a puppet.

[cit_gym_rat]

I'll be there and I know plenty of others who appreciate what this panel have done for both hurling and football in this county in the past, and what they are trying to do for the future of the game in this county.

Maybe CIT_GYm_Rat is the one person in this country who thinks Gerald is the best man to turn around Cork's hurling fortunes and that Frank Murphy's decisions and actions are always pure in intention.
im not saying he is the best man to turn it around, all im saying is the panel are breaking arbitration, if the board done something like this the county would be up in arms. Player power in the gaa has gone too far and needs to stop

[RonnyB]

im not saying he is the best man to turn it around, all im saying is the panel are breaking arbitration, if the board done something like this the county would be up in arms. Player power in the gaa has gone too far and needs to stop

That was broken when the players werent listened to in the 'debate' with regards a new coach. It was Frank & Co. who broke it in the 1st place.

[Youghal Exile]

The PROC represent's what cork think's and feel's go all out fella's untill Gerald and Frank are fucked out of it.

[cit_gym_rat]

That was broken when the players werent listened to in the 'debate' with regards a new coach. It was Frank & Co. who broke it in the 1st place.
its simple, its what a 5 man commitee for the coach of which the players have 2 reps? the players are outvoted tough shit get over it and play

[Echoboy]

I'm not changing sides or anything, City till i die me like ;) .... but fair is fair, the players not only deserve it for their initial stance on the issue (which was not unreasonable by any stretch of the imagination) but they now deserve it even more for the unbalance treatment they have got since this all kicked off again.

I do respect their humility in the whole thing, but i cant understand how they let the county board and media get away with so much for so long. I dont know their situation but i can only guess their hands were tied to some degree. The board and media have been playing dirty all along and that needs to stop.

Anyway, what ever is going on, the players will need to be supported and heard if this is ever to be resolved. Think about it, it doesn't matter what side you are on, or even if you are still on the ditch. Both sides need to be heard and given quarter to get resolution and the players have to get the publics support if that is to happen.

Stand up and get behind the players and get us closer to a realistic end to this dispute.

[Echoboy]

its simple, its what a 5 man commitee for the coach of which the players have 2 reps? the players are outvoted tough shit get over it and play

There is no vote if there is only one guy put forward. Do you want to see this solved or do you want it to go on like this for years to come. anyone that has given this a moments thought knows this has to be sorted out fairly and properly. The county board are preventing that from happening now simple as

[cit_gym_rat]

There is no vote if there is only one guy put forward. Do you want to see this solved or do you want it to go on like this for years to come. anyone that has given this a moments thought knows this has to be sorted out fairly and properly. The county board are preventing that from happening now simple as
so we would have prefered a joke election process where there was 4 or 5 people put forward, and the 3 county board reps still vote for the county board man?

[RonnyB]

its simple, its what a 5 man commitee for the coach of which the players have 2 reps? the players are outvoted tough shit get over it and play

Its actually a 7 man committee with 2 player reps. Mulvey's player suggestion was a farce IMO and not thought out well at all. My belief is that Mulvery should have looked for the likes of JBM, O'Grady, Allen, Tom Cashman & Tony O'Sullivan as 5 members of the 7 man committee with lets say Frank & Mark Landers to make up 7 if needs be. The 5+2 was a sham from the start on so many levels.

Do you even follow GAA by the way? Anyone who does in this county should no that the CCB are a fucking disgrace & I dont need to use the current issue as proof of that. They blatently lied to club delegates on the issue when Ger Mac was voted in. I know this to be 100% fact.

[RonnyB]

so we would have prefered a joke election process where there was 4 or 5 people put forward, and the 3 county board reps still vote for the county board man?

Each candidate then gets interviewed & the best man for the job is picked.

FFS even the FAI showed cop on in appointing their last coach.

[cit_gym_rat]

every knows the county board are a jokefactory but my point still stands the players witht the 5 + 2 split are never going to get the coach they want, its always going to be a county board man, simple as. get over it and play.

[Rebelred]

every knows the county board are a jokefactory but my point still stands the players witht the 5 + 2 split are never going to get the coach they want, its always going to be a county board man, simple as. get over it and play.

have a read of this:

Cusack: no attempt to instal players’ ‘own man’

By Edward Newman
DONAL ÓG CUSACK last night insisted the Cork hurlers were not looking to have their own man put in place during the five meetings that took place between the county board executive and the player representatives prior to Gerald McCarthy’s reappointment as Cork senior hurling manager.


Cusack reiterated that he and John Gardiner entered the meetings in good faith and felt exasperated at the fifth meeting when it became clear that McCarthy was going to mange the hurlers with or without the players’ consent.

Cusack also claimed McCarthy had told Niall McCarthy he would only come back if the players wanted him.

“In the first meeting which was a very short meeting, we agreed we would go away and find out what Gerald’s position was. That was it; nothing else. If we knew what was coming afterwards we wouldn’t have allowed that to happen. That was a mistake.

“In the second meeting the other five members of the executive came back and they said they had spoken to Gerald McCarthy and revealed that he was very interested in taking the job for the two years.

“Our strategy was if that happened, a process would take place. Our reply was ‘ok let’s add that to the process’. The county secretary conveniently took my words out of context when relaying the information to the county board. During that meeting we argued there should be a process. It was said that there weren’t names mentioned — there were names mentioned. When the board asked what people we were interested in getting on board, Seán Óg Ó hAilpín said Tomás Mulcahy and other names like Bertie Óg Murphy. Ger Cunningham was mentioned by Mick Dolan.

“It was said in that meeting that there was going to be a vote taken — there wasn’t going to be a process. We argued as best as we could. We said our players would find this very hard to take. Mick Dolan, the county chairman, was pushing the vote. Just before that vote was going to take place, Frank Murphy asked us to go back to our players and find out whether we would accept that. We went back and spoke to all players. The players didn’t want Gerald back and the instruction from the group was to go in and argue as hard as we could for a process and if it came up about Gerald, we would have to relay the facts of his tenure.

“At the next meeting we didn’t want to have to come and say what we knew about Gerald McCarthy. We argued long and hard. They said ‘we’re listening to your points of process, we don’t accept that, we’re calling for a vote’.

“We did reply that seeing as there is only one candidate on the table, we now feel obliged as player representatives to comment on that man. We spoke about all the stuff that was going on over the previous two years. It would be hard for us to believe that some of the people on the other side of the table were aware of some if not all what was going on. But we relayed all the information. The comments we got back were ‘we’re in shock’, ‘we should have known some of this stuff was going on’ this isn’t good enough’. One of the things they then asked us to do was to go away and put together what you would describe as a professional set up.”

Cusack then said that Frank Murphy was trying to put them in a corner and that the players were trying to do everything to fight their way out of it.

“We returned to the fourth meeting. We said one of the areas we should be looking at is a centre of excellence. That meeting ended because one of us had to go back to work. The fifth meeting a lot of debate took place as to the process. The vote was called. We pleaded with them not to do it.”

He added: “The board will argue now that we didn’t put another man on the table for discussion but that’s because there’s no vehicle there to propose someone else. We didn’t go with the agenda of getting our own man in — we came in good spirit, hoping that some proper process will be put in place, who was the right man and who wasn’t.”