Irish swell British military ranks

[Arcadia]

Irish swell British military ranks
By Michael Buchanan
BBC News


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Land Sergeant Eddie Rooney from Dublin on why he joined up

The British military is experiencing a large rise in recruits from the Irish Republic, figures obtained by BBC Radio 4's PM programme have shown.

They reveal a four-fold increase in military personnel from the Irish Republic during the past three years.

Between 2005 and 2006, just 3% of recruits entering the military through its recruitment centres in Northern Ireland came from the Republic,

The figure so far this year is 14%, and officers believe it will rise further.

Lt Col Dick Rafferty, who runs the Northern Ireland recruitment centres where most of the southern Irish recruits join up, says several factors are driving enlistment.

They include the weakening economy in the Irish Republic and the sheer number of opportunities a career in the British military offers.

THE RISE IN IRISH RECRUITS
2005-06: 3%
2006-07: 4.5%
2007-08: 10%
2008-present: 14%

Figures show British military recruits through Northern Ireland offices

He also says the reduction in tensions in Northern Ireland itself has been crucial.

"This is a generation who are less familiar with the British army supporting the policing operation of the north," he says.

"They are more familiar with the wider efforts of the British army in Iraq and Afghanistan. Where previously [the troubles in] Northern Ireland informed the mindsets of the last generation, that is less the case with this upcoming generation."

Changing attitudes

Michael Godman, 19, from County Offaly, is one of those who would like to join the British military, hopefully to become a sniper.

He says he wanted to be a soldier from a young age and it was an easy decision to approach the British rather than the Irish military.

"The Irish Defence Force - as the name suggests - is a defence force, it's not an army," he says.


Michael Godman, 19, hopes to become a sniper in the British army

"It's for purely domestic use. It simply can't compare with the opportunities on offer with the British army."

Michael is one of 10 potential recruits being assessed at the Palace Barracks in Belfast this week, six of whom came from the Irish Republic.

Ciaran Curran, 23, says he wants to join to experience a combat environment.

"A friend of mine joined a couple of years ago and he was out in Afghanistan this year with the Royal Irish Regiment. He got his action and I want mine," he says.

There is, of course, a long tradition of Irish people serving in the British military.

A third of the Duke of Wellington's army at the Battle of Waterloo for instance was reputedly made up of Irishmen.

But there has been a decades-old stigma in many Irish communities about serving with the British.

Many Irish veterans of World War I and II received no recognition on their return home, and those that died were in many cases simply forgotten.

Attitudes are changing.


Mourners in Westport remember fallen Royal Marine Robbie McKibben

In Castlebar in County Mayo a new memorial was unveiled last month to honour those who died in various conflicts since World War I and local historians are trying to discover as much information as they can about the soldiers.

But scarcely can there have been a more public symbol of the new attitude than the reaction of the people of Westport in County Mayo to the death of Robert McKibben.

The Royal Marine was killed in Afghanistan earlier this month and buried in Westport on Monday amid incredible scenes.

Six Royal Marines marched for several hundred yards through the town beside his coffin, something that would not have been tolerated in the Irish Republic just a few years ago.

There are, of course, many people who are not happy to see Irishmen join the British army.

One recruit said his father had told him in no uncertain terms that he would hide his son's career from his friends.

The political party Sinn Fein certainly does not approve of the trend.

IRISH DEFENCE FORCE FACTS
10,500 members
Mainly involved in UN/EU-led operations in Chad, Kosovo, Lebanon and Bosnia
Last combat death: Lebanon, 1999

"I can understand that the realisation that they won't be asked to kill young Catholic people on the streets of Belfast might be less of a deterrent to people from the south," says MEP Bairbre de Brun.

"But if they think it through, they ought to know that the role they will be asked to play in Iraq or Afghanistan won't be a positive one either."

But, for a growing number of young people in the Irish Republic, the conflict in Northern Ireland has been consigned to history.

The British armed forces have the potential to offer them adventure and opportunities they feel simply cannot be matched by their own country's military.

[ANVIL]

It's hardly surprising.
Many Irish people are British in all but name only anyway.
We watch British TV, shop at British supermarkets, support British football teams, marry British people, work in Britain.
What's wrong with killing for them as well ?
If she wasn't howling at the moon Maggie Thatcher would be having a quiet chuckle at this.

[Bennyton]

Jaysus

[Riordan]

Ah shur been going on for hundreds of years. No work, join the British Army, or lads looking for a bit of criac.

[BangorFeen]

It's a free country and as EU citizens they're free to work wherever they want within the EU but I personally couldn't do it. I love the fact that Irish attitudes to the British Army seemingly sprung from the ether though (at least this is the censorship of ommision in this article...) and any dissenting view can only be represented by SF. Nice slant there, BBC.

[Bennyton]

It's a free country and as EU citizens they're free to work wherever they want within the EU but I personally couldn't do it. I love the fact that Irish attitudes to the British Army seemingly sprung from the ether though (at least this is the censorship of ommision in this article...) and any dissenting view can only be represented by SF. Nice slant there, BBC.


the chair recognises BangorFeen

[Professor Piehead]

It's hardly surprising.
Many Irish people are British in all but name only anyway.
We watch British TV, shop at British supermarkets, support British football teams, marry British people, work in Britain.
What's wrong with killing for them as well ?
If she wasn't howling at the moon Maggie Thatcher would be having a quiet chuckle at this.

She is.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00460/spittingimagepic_38_ 460468a.jpg

[POL]

Ciaran Curran, 23, says he wants to join to experience a combat environment.

"A friend of mine joined a couple of years ago and he was out in Afghanistan this year with the Royal Irish Regiment. He got his action and I want mine," he says.

.what is this meant to mean? I want to kill people?

[Hang_Sandwich]

that becuase there is a cap on the irish military, threrfore it is much much harder to get in to it. the brits will take almost anyone - the kid brothers friend joined the royal marines after school and was shipped of to afghanistan after justa few months he has since left them and is now working in a gym - opertunities me hole

[Arcadia]

what is this meant to mean? I want to kill people?

He's definitly looking for some type of action !

Travel,
Meet interesting people and kill them ?

He'd be better off doing some type of FAS course.

[BangorFeen]

what is this meant to mean? I want to kill people?
That's always been a motivation for young, hot-headed men going back 100s of years. It's certainly not for me but we all knew the gun nut in our class at school. Most will get it out of their system either through the FCA or the Defence Forces but there's only room so many and the function of the IDF will not be to everyone's satisfaction. He's taking up employment within the EU. Sure, he comes across as a bit of a douche but it's not illegal

[Lamps]

what is this meant to mean? I want to kill people?

http://moriartys.com/Father-Ted/I-Shot-J-R.JPG

[VzN]

Shame to see terrorism doing well in this day and age.

[Proinsias]

If one wants to go off and shoot at poor brown people, the Irish army sure isn't the route to go...

[Proinsias]

- You'd rather have them slamming planes into our building or have them pollute our country with their muck?

You're not making a huge amount of sense there lad.

All's I'm saying is that if you fancy a bit of proper "shoot at someone in their own country cause they're looking at you funny" action, the British army is a far better option than the Irish army. Little chance of shooting a local and not getting into trouble for it in the Irish army. Nature of peacekeeping. Difficult job.

[tim the trip]

to be honest frank, you indirectly touched on this in another thread.i see great economic oppertunity mid saraha with regards to advances in solar energy technology.
i recon the brits are looking at a longterm build up .i mean look at all the adds on t.v. did you ever see the likes of it?

its as if they are breading another generation for warfare.

[Professor Piehead]

You're not making a huge amount of sense there lad.

All's I'm saying is that if you fancy a bit of proper "shoot at someone in their own country cause they're looking at you funny" action, the British army is a far better option than the Irish army. Little chance of shooting a local and not getting into trouble for it in the Irish army. Nature of peacekeeping. Difficult job.

So they didn't shoot anyone in the Congo Frank?

Peacekeeping is a difficult job, Kosvo was a bit of a nightmare, and many other peacekeeping operations involving British forces.

[The Zurich Connection]

I'd never live or work there...let alone join they're army...dump of a country.

[doppellanger]

I'd never live or work there...let alone join they're army...dump of a country.

...or learn to spell their language.

[The Zurich Connection]

...or learn to spell their language.


Such a clever boy....

[BangorFeen]

I'd never live or work there...let alone join they're army...dump of a country.
And you know this how exactly?

[Proinsias]

So they didn't shoot anyone in the Congo Frank?

Peacekeeping is a difficult job, Kosvo was a bit of a nightmare, and many other peacekeeping operations involving British forces.

And those folks joining the British army to "get some action" are really looking to keep the peace between warring factions in the Congo...

[The Zurich Connection]

And you know this how exactly?

First-hand experience.

[Professor Piehead]

And those folks joining the British army to "get some action" are really looking to keep the peace between warring factions in the Congo...

So did the Irish army shoot any locals in the Congo then? They didn't 'get any action' ?

[ANVIL]

I'd never live or work there...let alone join they're army...dump of a country.

However,as you keep telling us, you think Liverpool is the best football club in the world.
Pot.Kettle.Dickhead.

[Actin The Sham]

- I've a buddy with Irish forces in Africa, been all over, and the only action he gets is when they go on breaks to Thailand. And you know what kind of action I'm talking about there, huh, huh? :) I'll give you a clue: it's completely hairless.

-Yeah.

Right.


I can just picture it now: "Right lads, we're just going to pop over to Thailand for a bit of R&R for the weekend. Sure, it's 6,000 miles away, but what the hell, sure didn't we used to go to Rio De Janeiro for the weekend when we were stationed in Kosovo?"

The old "I've a buddy" syndrome trips you up yet again.

:rolleyes:

[Kimeartimmyboy]

im in the brits now and never seen so many southern lads(i got out and rejoined).reason most are here is for the action but also because they couldnt get into the idf.and by action i mean actually doing what you train for.and yes,that does involve brassing someone up but also using your head and better judgement.the fact that theyre put in that situation is the appeal

[Actin The Sham]

- He's been there several times. I dunno if it's off his own back but he's been there with friends from his barracks or whatnot.

And what's so amazing about having a friend in the army? Does the mere mention of it set you on edge? Are you that unsure of your masculinity? Take a piss break, I'm sure you'll be able to find something.

Ok dollface. I know several people who have been to Thailand. None of them are in the army. I also know several people who are in the Irish Defence Forces. None of them have been to Thailand.


These facts have as much relevance to this thread as your earlier post.

[Barry Scott]

im in the brits now and never seen so many southern lads(i got out and rejoined).reason most are here is for the action but also because they couldnt get into the idf.and by action i mean actually doing what you train for.and yes,that does involve brassing someone up but also using your head and better judgement.the fact that theyre put in that situation is the appeal
Scum

[Kimeartimmyboy]

Scum
brilliant
is it natural or do you practice hard at being a bell end?

[tim the trip]

a.a.

c b c

[Actin The Sham]

brilliant
is it natural or do you practice hard at being a bell end?

The Irish Army is currently successfully deployed in Chad, and has recently seen action in Eritrea, East Timor, Kosovo and Afghanistan. It is a successful, committed, well equipped, and highly respected army, and just because it's members aren't homicidal maniacs doesn't mean that it should be belittled by the likes of people who decide for whatever reason to fight for some other country. That is your decision, but don't slag off our army just because they don't see "action," as you put it.

I'd put one of our ARW up against you one on one any day, and guess what?

You'd lose.

[i_didnt_do_nawtin]

I'd put one of our ARW up against you one on one any day, and guess what?

You'd lose.

I'd pay to see that

[Professor Piehead]

The Irish Army is currently successfully deployed in Chad, and has recently seen action in Eritrea, East Timor, Kosovo and Afghanistan. It is a successful, committed, well equipped, and highly respected army, and just because it's members aren't homicidal maniacs doesn't mean that it should be belittled by the likes of people who decide for whatever reason to fight for some other country. That is your decision, but don't slag off our army just because they don't see "action," as you put it.

I'd put one of our ARW up against you one on one any day, and guess what?

You'd lose.

What a child.

The SAS, even in military circles, are considered the best unit in the world, fact. Guess what, they're British.

[Professor Piehead]

- So, you're saying people who go to Thailand are never in the Irish army, and people who are in the Irish army never go to Thailand. And you're basing this on two groups of several people who have either been to Thailand or are in the Irish army.

Queer deductions, Mr Holmes. Queer indeed.

Some sort of ven diagram would be in order LBF-y.

[ANVIL]

The Irish Army is currently successfully deployed in Chad, and has recently seen action in Eritrea, East Timor, Kosovo and Afghanistan. It is a successful, committed, well equipped, and highly respected army, and just because it's members aren't homicidal maniacs doesn't mean that it should be belittled by the likes of people who decide for whatever reason to fight for some other country. That is your decision, but don't slag off our army just because they don't see "action," as you put it.

I'd put one of our ARW up against you one on one any day, and guess what?

You'd lose.

Sham Baby the Irish army - like our navy - is a fucking joke.
There's nothing wrong in being patriotic but don't patronise us with this shit that the Irish army is respected throughout the world for its fighting prowess.
You're making yourself look like a twat.

[tim the trip]

What a child.

The SAS, even in military circles, are considered the best unit in the world, fact. Guess what, they're British.


not exactly, my learned friend. they were outstanding, and still cut the mustard,but they are certinaly not the same as "stirlings men" of old.
the irony of the matter is that an irish man was one of the units cofounders and rarely gets credit for it.can you name him without googling?

as you might have observed from previous threads i have posted on, im envolved with long distance racing, triathlons and the like. {some} guys i race and train with have served with the a.r.w. and later in the e.r.u. for the police.we have had many discussions whilst on long runs regarding who now is truley "elite"

the common global opinion of enlisted men is that the s.a.s. has become too dependant on technology rather than training and ability.the brecon beacon slection course that was once feared by one and all,is now the subject of reality t.v. shows.
andy mc nabbs bravo2.0. has been proven to be full of inaccurate accounts futher more undermining the regiments credibility.

i, and many others are of the opinion that the truly elite are the ones that are rarley heard about.


another irony...
while people on here are quick to point thar the irish defence forces are just that, and not an army, one would have to imagine that the a.r.w. due to lack of funding , have to depend more on their training, aswell as by comparision to the s.a.s. out of date equipment.

4 years ago, myself and one of my buddies, were on the col between galty mor and beag. now i can run right? 5 rangers ran past me up the side of mor, 20 kg packs, water and rifle.
il never for get that.

apparently the most dangerous and lethal of all are "combusin" the italian special forces.
they would eat a.r.w. and s.a.s. for breakfeast.

[tim the trip]

- He'll bring up the Irish rangers next, and how they beat the rest of the world's special forces in this big competition by eating bark and snails.

anybook by hugh fernly whittingstall{s.p.?} from river cottage fame will show you how to do same. grow up.

[Professor Piehead]

not exactly, my learned friend. they were outstanding, and still cut the mustard,but they are certinaly not the same as "stirlings men" of old.
the irony of the matter is that an irish man was one of the units cofounders and rarely gets credit for it.can you name him without googling?

as you might have observed from previous threads i have posted on, im envolved with long distance racing, triathlons and the like. {some} guys i race and train with have served with the a.r.w. and later in the e.r.u. for the police.we have had many discussions whilst on long runs regarding who now is truley "elite"

the common global opinion of enlisted men is that the s.a.s. has become too dependant on technology rather than training and ability.the brecon beacon slection course that was once feared by one and all,is now the subject of reality t.v. shows.
andy mc nabbs bravo2.0. has been proven to be full of inaccurate accounts futher more undermining the regiments credibility.

i, and many others are of the opinion that the truly elite are the ones that are rarley heard about.


another irony...
while people on here are quick to point thar the irish defence forces are just that, and not an army, one would have to imagine that the a.r.w. due to lack of funding , have to depend more on their training, aswell as by comparision to the s.a.s. out of date equipment.

4 years ago, myself and one of my buddies, were on the col between galty mor and beag. now i can run right? 5 rangers ran past me up the side of mor, 20 kg packs, water and rifle.
il never for get that.

apparently the most dangerous and lethal of all are "combusin" the italian special forces.
they would eat a.r.w. and s.a.s. for breakfeast.

Paddy Mayne?

As regards to the rest of your post, you've haven't got a clue.

Enjoy your delusion.

[tim the trip]

Paddy Mayne?

As regards to the rest of your post, you've haven't got a clue.

Enjoy your delusion.

and you yours.

[Professor Piehead]

and you yours.

Not really Tim. As an example, the Lufthansa hijacking in 1977. Who did ze Germans seek advice from and have members present to give it?

You'll have to trust me old boy, I know what I'm talking about on this one.

[tim the trip]

Not really Tim. As an example, the Lufthansa hijacking in 1977. Who did ze Germans seek advice from and have members present to give it?

You'll have to trust me old boy, I know what I'm talking about on this one.

the germans then created sgs9. the guy i mentioned in my above post, with whom i have competed in 2 ironman triathlons, bought me and another athlete to kolon recently, to watch him ,his unit and their good friends in the sgs9 shoot.i am doing ironman austria 09 with 2 of that unit.



during comps, they drunk a round of yager{hunter master} between volleys.

i have a patch upstairs in my shoobox full of momentos.

[tim the trip]

give me a minute im resizing photos.

[wat_boy]

the common global opinion of enlisted men is that the s.a.s. has become too dependant on technology rather than training and ability.the brecon beacon slection course that was once feared by one and all,is now the subject of reality t.v. shows.
andy mc nabbs bravo2.0. has been proven to be full of inaccurate accounts futher more undermining the regiments credibility.

i, and many others are of the opinion that the truly elite are the ones that are rarley heard about.


.

john mcaleese who was one the sas members in the Iranian embassy siege, well his son was my section commander in catterick, sound bloke excellent soldier.

[tim the trip]

he sure is. the best man with shaped charges there ever was.

im a bigger fan of john lofty wise, and brummy stokes. i have most of their survival books.
the "urban" one with the orange cover is a great read.

[wat_boy]

never read any of the books but i might throw around a hints now that xmas is coming up, anyway though, that eddie stone that does the sas shows knows his shit boy and is mean as fuck i'd say

[tim the trip]

never read any of the books but i might throw around a hints now that xmas is coming up, anyway though, that eddie stone that does the sas shows knows his shit boy and is mean as fuck i'd say

c.q.b. seems to be his forte.
does he not now work on contract in the middle east?

[wat_boy]

wouldn't know tbh with ya tim but given his skills i'd be very surprised if he was not doing that type of work

[Professor Piehead]

the germans then created sgs9. the guy i mentioned in my above post, with whom i have competed in 2 ironman triathlons, bought me and another athlete to kolon recently, to watch him ,his unit and their good friends in the sgs9 shoot.i am doing ironman austria 09 with 2 of that unit.



during comps, they drunk a round of yager{hunter master} between volleys.

i have a patch upstairs in my shoobox full of momentos.

Well you see Tim, GSG9 were created in 1973 as a response to the events at the 1972 olympics. They asked for SAS advisors in 1977 because they are recognised as the worlds formost experts. Like I said, I know my shit on this stuff.

Case closed.

[tim the trip]

Well you see Tim, GSG9 were created in 1973 as a response to the events at the 1972 olympics. They asked for SAS advisors in 1977 because they are recognised as the worlds formost experts. Like I said, I know my shit on this stuff.

Case closed.
what case?
where did i mention that they didint seek advice from the sas?i just mearly pointed out that they are no longer unique ,and that combusin are concidered by many as better.you know your shit ? im sure you do, but i have had many conversations with serving members in which they,not me voiced the above opinion.

thanks for pointing out the typos of which at this hour i make loads, but that hardly swings the point for you.

would you not agree that,
logic should dictate that COVERT forces should stay covert?

just hear me out ......its like the martail arts. karate, kung fu, akido, ju ju jusitu, where all highly effective combat arts in the past, when their methods and training secrets where little known and secretive. now every juiced up knacker can learn and practice in every other town in nearly every country, thus rendering them inafective. their asian/oriental creators and masters or no more due to the fact that their arts skill levels have plataued, and more importantly everyone knows what they are /where doing.

the sas may have been the inavators in counter terrisiom, and for along time the best at what they did{and still exellent dont get me wrong} but the skill set has plataued, and now everyone is at it. they are no longer elite. id run the physical part of their slection course myself, and so would one or 2 more on this board. including"long drag" christ, i did half of it yesterday for fun ffs.i also,suggested that the ityes are better trained {at the mo} that the a.r.w. or the s.a.s. so you can not argue that im biased like a lot of people on here. you see my friend, i know my stuff also.

feel free to take another cheap shot at my spelling or diction.

[tim the trip]

and im 2 fucking lazy to edit it.

[Professor Piehead]

what case?
where did i mention that they didint seek advice from the sas?i just mearly pointed out that they are no longer unique ,and that combusin are concidered by many as better.you know your shit ? im sure you do, but i have had many conversations with serving members in which they,not me voiced the above opinion.

thanks for pointing out the typos of which at this hour i make loads, but that hardly swings the point for you.

would you not agree that,
logic should dictate that COVERT forces should stay covert?

just hear me out ......its like the martail arts. karate, kung fu, akido, ju ju jusitu, where all highly effective combat arts in the past, when their methods and training secrets where little known and secretive. now every juiced up knacker can learn and practice in every other town in nearly every country, thus rendering them inafective. their asian/oriental creators and masters or no more due to the fact that their arts skill levels have plataued, and more importantly everyone knows what they are /where doing.

the sas may have been the inavators in counter terrisiom, and for along time the best at what they did{and still exellent dont get me wrong} but the skill set has plataued, and now everyone is at it. they are no longer elite. id run the physical part of their slection course myself, and so would one or 2 more on this board. including"long drag" christ, i did half of it yesterday for fun ffs.i also,suggested that the ityes are better trained {at the mo} that the a.r.w. or the s.a.s. so you can not argue that im biased like a lot of people on here. you see my friend, i know my stuff also.

feel free to take another cheap shot at my spelling or diction.

Not my style.

I'm taking a shot at your spoofery. I posted about the hijacking in 1977, to which you replied 'the germans then created sgs9'(typo my arse), is that something like stargate? GSG9 were formed in 1973.

Forget your plateau boolocks, the tip-toe boys will always be cutting edge. Nobody can hold a candle to them when it comes to operations.

By the way, an MOE guy would use a frame charge to go through doors and windows, not a shaped charge, they're for going through metal, armour plate.

Sorry if that's a cheap shot.


As for claiming you could do the physical part of selection, don't talk utter crap. You'd wrap after the first night when mummy couldn't tuck you in and kiss you on the cheek.

[tim the trip]

Not my style.

I'm taking a shot at your spoofery. I posted about the hijacking in 1977, to which you replied 'the germans then created sgs9'(typo my arse), is that something like stargate? GSG9 were formed in 1973.

Forget your plateau boolocks, the tip-toe boys will always be cutting edge. Nobody can hold a candle to them when it comes to operations.

By the way, an MOE guy would use a frame charge to go through doors and windows, not a shaped charge, they're for going through metal, armour plate.

Sorry if that's a cheap shot.


As for claiming you could do the physical part of selection, don't talk utter crap. You'd wrap after the first night when mummy couldn't tuck you in and kiss you on the cheek.

lol. rattled. sure if youd like to sponsor an event for charity under the banner of the proc .in which we could so a slection sim, then no problem!! i know of 2 other men on this board would love to do it . i myself can run 20 miles in way less than 3h with min nutrition. id have a go at the brecon beacons no problem. long drag would be a piece of piss.id gladly take a few quid off you for charity.if you want to see the dept of my physical resolve.if you dont, then lay off with the mummy comments.

shape charges/ frame charges. are you saying "mac" has not been trained in both??
WHERE DID I MAKE ANY reference to the iranian seige ?? you just assumed{again} all i said is mac was a good man with shape charges.

the tip toe men? are you refering to the ninjas now? that ones really funny.

special forces should not be heard of ,known of.
andy mc nabb...snigger/ sas tough enough etc..

the sas are far from covert anymore.

their system is well known globally and has been improved by the italians.

platue bollox? im a coach and qualified personal trainer and talk no bollox of any physical training regimes.

you know your history and are clearly educated on military matters but, you should stick with it. back in the past with stirling and paddy mayne.

COMBUSIN WOULD EAT THE SAS FOR BREAKFEAST.

not that it matters to me, are you english? it seems to matter to you. way to offer up an impartial view man, go the sas.

[ANVIL]

I'm afraid the Prof seems to have blown Tim Nice But Dim out of the water here.
Whether he used a frame charge or not I wouldn't know but it's quite obvious the ex-squaddie knows his stuff.
Although as a personal trainer I'm sure Tim gets to see more action with the damp leotards and he probably knows chapter and verse when it comes to fat people doing aerobics.

[tim the trip]

I'm afraid the Prof seems to have blown Tim Nice But Dim out of the water here.
Whether he used a frame charge or not I wouldn't know but it's quite obvious the ex-squaddie knows his stuff.
Although as a personal trainer I'm sure Tim gets to see more action with the damp leotards and he probably knows chapter and verse when it comes to fat people doing aerobics.

lol/ ex squaddie? maybe i have served myself........
an ex squaddie should know his stuff agreed.the sas are so covert and secretive that a squaddie and the rest of the world discusse their , slection process and operational ability on a public forum. go on the tip toe boys .how elite. how cutting edge. thats still cracking me up.
the man is indeed blinded, and unable to accept any side of the argument,but his own.while i offered an impartial view simply pointing out the facts, with out being swayed by national pride. but i suppose he sweared an oath.........
whats your excuse anvil?? its no wonder the english ranks are swelling with irish.
god bless the fat people indeed they pay the bills.



andy mc nabb bravo 2 zero...........heheh e


the real story of bravo two zero. check it out some time. great show about the tiptoe boys.i have yet to see a ch4 doc showing the training methods of the a.r.w. or combusin for that matter.

you have got to have a sence of humor i suppose.

peace!

[ANVIL]

lol/ ex squaddie? maybe i have served myself........
an ex squaddie should know his stuff agreed.the sas are so covert and secretive that a squaddie and the rest of the world discusse their , slection process and operational ability on a public forum. go on the tip toe boys .how elite. how cutting edge. thats still cracking me up.
the man is indeed blinded, and unable to accept any side of the argument,but his own.while i offered an impartial view simply pointing out the facts, with out being swayed by national pride. but i suppose he sweared an oath.........
whats your excuse anvil?? its no wonder the english ranks are swelling with irish.
god bless the fat people indeed they pay the bills.



andy mc nabb bravo 2 zero...........heheh e


the real story of bravo two zero. check it out some time. great show about the tiptoe boys.i have yet to see a ch4 doc showing the training methods of the a.r.w. or combusin for that matter.

you have got to have a sence of humor i suppose.

peace!



This man sounds like he is having a breakdown.
Either that or he's been at the Lucozade Sport again.
If the going gets tough I think I'd rather have the Prof in my foxhole than some purple shellsuit-wearing nancy boy aerobics instructor.
Feel the burn baby !

[Kimeartimmyboy]

The Irish Army is currently successfully deployed in Chad, and has recently seen action in Eritrea, East Timor, Kosovo and Afghanistan. It is a successful, committed, well equipped, and highly respected army, and just because it's members aren't homicidal maniacs doesn't mean that it should be belittled by the likes of people who decide for whatever reason to fight for some other country. That is your decision, but don't slag off our army just because they don't see "action," as you put it.

I'd put one of our ARW up against you one on one any day, and guess what?

You'd lose.
now youre talking poo.action in afghanistan???the last i heard there was a small detachment in kabul.seeing action on youtube maybe but not at the front dodging zips and cracks.and where did i belittle the idf.i said why people choose to join abroad nothing else.as for special forces 1 on 1.wise up.

[i_didnt_do_nawtin]

I met two Rhodesian SAS men in New Zealand. Hard core, worked menial jobs and live their lives full of regret.


Here's a song
SCSB_BiNSZo

[tim the trip]

This man sounds like he is having a breakdown.
Either that or he's been at the Lucozade Sport again.
If the going gets tough I think I'd rather have the Prof in my foxhole than some purple shellsuit-wearing nancy boy aerobics instructor.
Feel the burn baby !

ahhh anvy, i pray for you. lets hope the day never happens that we have to fine out.

[ANVIL]

ahhh anvy, i pray for you. lets hope the day never happens that we have to fine out.

Too true Tim Nice But Dim.
Why on earth would I want Jane Fonda in there next to me ?

[Actin The Sham]

now youre talking poo.action in afghanistan???the last i heard there was a small detachment in kabul.seeing action on youtube maybe but not at the front dodging zips and cracks.and where did i belittle the idf.i said why people choose to join abroad nothing else.as for special forces 1 on 1.wise up.

Wise up?

That's all you can come up with. Well, I suppose if you're not good enough for our lads, then you would hardly be confident about going one on one against one of them.

Now run along, I think the Americans are calling you, there's a good little poodle.


:)

[tim the trip]

Too true Tim Nice But Dim.
Why on earth would I want Jane Fonda in there next to me ?

well anvy, if its a choice between a jane fonda and a blue blood, i know what choice id make, but each to their own.

[Professor Piehead]

lol. rattled. sure if youd like to sponsor an event for charity under the banner of the proc .in which we could so a slection sim, then no problem!! i know of 2 other men on this board would love to do it . i myself can run 20 miles in way less than 3h with min nutrition. id have a go at the brecon beacons no problem. long drag would be a piece of piss.id gladly take a few quid off you for charity.if you want to see the dept of my physical resolve.if you dont, then lay off with the mummy comments.

shape charges/ frame charges. are you saying "mac" has not been trained in both??
WHERE DID I MAKE ANY reference to the iranian seige ?? you just assumed{again} all i said is mac was a good man with shape charges.
the tip toe men? are you refering to the ninjas now? that ones really funny.

special forces should not be heard of ,known of.
andy mc nabb...snigger/ sas tough enough etc..

the sas are far from covert anymore.

their system is well known globally and has been improved by the italians.

platue bollox? im a coach and qualified personal trainer and talk no bollox of any physical training regimes.

you know your history and are clearly educated on military matters but, you should stick with it. back in the past with stirling and paddy mayne.

COMBUSIN WOULD EAT THE SAS FOR BREAKFEAST.

not that it matters to me, are you english? it seems to matter to you. way to offer up an impartial view man, go the sas.

Heh heh heh. We both know what you meant, found out, take your beating like a man on selection.


Listen, I wouldn't doubt that if you're fit, you couldn't do one of the physical tests on selection, but day after day, with hardly any sleep, with full equipment, get real.

Will you ever give up with your Italian bollocks. Operational experience counts for more than making killer spagetti and driving tanks in reverse.

Knowledge is victory.

The SAS have been involved in nearly every conflict since WW2, countless anti-terrorist operations, participating and advisory (how many years in Ireland), the lads from Hereford are on secondment to forces and operations all over the world, and that's just the ones the medja get hold of.

I'm not just talking them up because they're British, I'm going on personal experience and information aquired over the years.

Jesus christ, the Ballinhassig girl guides could slap your average olive oil soaked COMBLOVERS into next week.

[Professor Piehead]

lol/ ex squaddie? maybe i have served myself........
an ex squaddie should know his stuff agreed.the sas are so covert and secretive that a squaddie and the rest of the world discusse their , slection process and operational ability on a public forum. go on the tip toe boys .how elite. how cutting edge. thats still cracking me up.
the man is indeed blinded, and unable to accept any side of the argument,but his own.while i offered an impartial view simply pointing out the facts, with out being swayed by national pride. but i suppose he sweared an oath.........
whats your excuse anvil?? its no wonder the english ranks are swelling with irish.
god bless the fat people indeed they pay the bills.



andy mc nabb bravo 2 zero...........heheh e


the real story of bravo two zero. check it out some time. great show about the tiptoe boys.i have yet to see a ch4 doc showing the training methods of the a.r.w. or combusin for that matter.

you have got to have a sence of humor i suppose.

peace!

:lol!:, again Tim.

Look, I realise you've cleaned the shelves out of British militaria at Easons, but come now, how naive are you.

You honestly think what's in the public domain is what actually goes on, get a grip lad.

By the way, I wasn't in the army, I was in the Royal Marines. Sergeant when I left.

[Professor Piehead]

This man sounds like he is having a breakdown.
Either that or he's been at the Lucozade Sport again.
If the going gets tough I think I'd rather have the Prof in my foxhole than some purple shellsuit-wearing nancy boy aerobics instructor.
Feel the burn baby !

Heh heh heh, Tim and the boys, yesterday.....

http://www.franklinfantasy. com/teams/purplecobras.jpg

:lol!: :lol!:

[Kimeartimmyboy]

Wise up?

That's all you can come up with. Well, I suppose if you're not good enough for our lads, then you would hardly be confident about going one on one against one of them.

Now run along, I think the Americans are calling you, there's a good little poodle.


:)
:mad:
ya thats it.failed on medical grounds(colour vision) by some fat prick WITH GLASSES.went to the dark side then.not good enough for the idf but good enough for p company
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:8bRI2da HIu1MBM:http://www.parachute-regiment.com/images/training/log_race.jpg

[ANVIL]

Heh heh heh, Tim and the boys, yesterday.....

http://www.franklinfantasy. com/teams/purplecobras.jpg

:lol!: :lol!:

Tim must be the second one from the right - he's certainly got that " trained killer after a couple of white wine spritzers " look.

[tim the trip]

:lol!:, again Tim.

Look, I realise you've cleaned the shelves out of British militaria at Easons, but come now, how naive are you.

You honestly think what's in the public domain is what actually goes on, get a grip lad.

By the way, I wasn't in the army, I was in the Royal Marines. Sergeant when I left.

hehehe.

poor anvil is a fool with whom i never had a debate with so i cant comment on him , but you prof...... id have thought you would had gleaned that i might have a little more than a naive knowlage base. after all i usually respect your opinions.

to be honest, the only type of milatry reading i would consider serious would be the likes of "the go rin nu sho" or book of five rings by mushasi miamoto, or" the art of war by sun tsu" im sure you have read them

a come on now,as a sergeant{ with respect}you must have kept your self in some state of fitness. did it ever cross your mind to go for selection your self? you seem to know so much about it?

its really not that hard to get through . really.i mean ranulph fiennes used taxis on his slection for the tip toe boys, and he never got caught.i suppose thats bullshit too?
o the mockery.


tell me again why they are so elite?

[Professor Piehead]

hehehe.

poor anvil is a fool with whom i never had a debate with so i cant comment on him , but you prof...... id have thought you would had gleaned that i might have a little more than a naive knowlage base. after all i usually respect your opinions.

to be honest, the only type of milatry reading i would consider serious would be the likes of "the go rin nu sho" or book of five rings by mushasi miamoto, or" the art of war by sun tsu" im sure you have read them

a come on now,as a sergeant{ with respect}you must have kept your self in some state of fitness. did it ever cross your mind to go for selection your self? you seem to know so much about it?

its really not that hard to get through . really.i mean ranulph fiennes used taxis on his slection for the tip toe boys, and he never got caught.i suppose thats bullshit too?
o the mockery.


tell me again why they are so elite?

I was happy where I was my friend. I enjoyed looking after the lads, no deaths on my watch.

Yes, I've read plenty of those type of books, did plenty of the jap slapping in my younger days.

As for your Fiennes info, I didn't know that. Shows how sneaky he was, to pull the wool over the eyes of the best in the world. But for every pleasure, there's pain, the digitally challenged tit.

EDIT: and they're elite just on their public record, let alone what you'll never know about.

[tim the trip]

I was happy where I was my friend. I enjoyed looking after the lads, no deaths on my watch.

Yes, I've read plenty of those type of books, did plenty of the jap slapping in my younger days.

As for your Fiennes info, I didn't know that. Shows how sneaky he was, to pull the wool over the eyes of the best in the world. But for every pleasure, there's pain, the digitally challenged tit.

EDIT: and they're elite just on their public record, let alone what you'll never know about.

you could say that about every spealised unit the world over if fairness.
the fienns info is correct, he actually got a complex about it, and after he re entered the reserve 22nd{?} he did long drag this time with out the aid of a taxi.

as with regards to the day afted day, i wouldent be so sure. me and the lads i metioned are on a build up to the marathon de sables for charity in 2 years. just the ironman austria to get out of the way.{were actually staying in a barracks}

watching ze germans shoot? il tell you what, you mentioned b4 about chewing the fat over a few pints, well my buddy whoms name i wont mention in a public forum will be back for christmas, we should indeed meet up for a few scoops as im sure the conversation would be great. he is ex a.r.w. seen africa /the leb and been part of an exchange with the stargate brigade twice of 3 times. i was wrong to post that fact here maybe, as a lot of the low brows would automaticaly assume thats thats bull shit.
you live you learn.

[Professor Piehead]

you could say that about every spealised unit the world over if fairness.
the fienns info is correct, he actually got a complex about it, and after he re entered the reserve 22nd{?} he did long drag this time with out the aid of a taxi.

as with regards to the day afted day, i wouldent be so sure. me and the lads i metioned are on a build up to the marathon de sables for charity in 2 years. just the ironman austria to get out of the way.{were actually staying in a barracks}

watching ze germans shoot? il tell you what, you mentioned b4 about chewing the fat over a few pints, well my buddy whoms name i wont mention in a public forum will be back for christmas, we should indeed meet up for a few scoops as im sure the conversation would be great. he is ex a.r.w. seen africa /the leb and been part of an exchange with the stargate brigade twice of 3 times. i was wrong to post that fact here maybe, as a lot of the low brows would automaticaly assume thats thats bull shit.
you live you learn.

Indeed you do.

Relax Tim, I'm only pulling your tail.

I'll be in the UK until the 28th, no problem after that for a few pints.

I stand by my opinion though, the SAS are the best military unit in the world, always were, always will be.

[tim the trip]

and i yours prof. the pot and the kettle.we will have to agree to differ so.peace.

[ANVIL]

you could say that about every spealised unit the world over if fairness.
the fienns info is correct, he actually got a complex about it, and after he re entered the reserve 22nd{?} he did long drag this time with out the aid of a taxi.

as with regards to the day afted day, i wouldent be so sure. me and the lads i metioned are on a build up to the marathon de sables for charity in 2 years. just the ironman austria to get out of the way.{were actually staying in a barracks}

watching ze germans shoot? il tell you what, you mentioned b4 about chewing the fat over a few pints, well my buddy whoms name i wont mention in a public forum will be back for christmas, we should indeed meet up for a few scoops as im sure the conversation would be great. he is ex a.r.w. seen africa /the leb and been part of an exchange with the stargate brigade twice of 3 times. i was wrong to post that fact here maybe, as a lot of the low brows would automaticaly assume thats thats bull shit.
you live you learn.

You don't say.
Christ you must be getting the horn just thinking about it.

[tim the trip]

You don't say.
Christ you must be getting the horn just thinking about it.

can you make it?

[ANVIL]

And miss all that wet towel flicking ?
Of course I can !

[tim the trip]

lol.

[Professor Piehead]

And miss all that wet towel flicking ?
Of course I can !

Nothing wrong with a bit of towel flicking between wholesome young men.

[ANVIL]

Nothing wrong with a bit of towel flicking between wholesome young men.

And lighting farts.
Don't forget that.

[Actin The Sham]

not good enough for the idf but good enough for p company


That sounds about right. They take all our rejects.

[tim the trip]

text me that would ya.....

[Kimeartimmyboy]

That sounds about right. They take all our rejects.
ah ok.beyond rattlement tbh.check out what p coy is please.then come back with that beauty corrected

[Professor Piehead]

ah ok.beyond rattlement tbh.check out what p coy is please.then come back with that beauty corrected

Don't hold your breath, he's an imbecile on this subject.

[strict66]

ah ok.beyond rattlement tbh.check out what p coy is please.then come back with that beauty corrected

Would that be the regiment that requires its members to have its own pair of high heels and are allowed wear their birds bra on d-day

[Kimeartimmyboy]

its not gay.just sucking cock cos were friends,so the story goes.