The official Munster Senior League thread

[ho chi feen]

Cheers for posting up NOW that all today's 10:45am kicks offs were all cancelled!

Just as well as I didn't take a bloody expensive cab ride up to St Mary's park.

[Alan Smith]

Ha

Did you ring the number I sent?

[ho chi feen]

Ha

Did you ring the number I sent?

Yup, he have me a number for the treasurer who said it was still due to go ahead.

I just had a feeling it wouldn't when I got up today, sweating on it in case I got it wrong though.

[Alan Smith]

You'll know tomorrow won't you when the results are printed but I doubt it went ahead anyway.

[afeencalleddan]

Cheers for posting up NOW that all today's 10:45am kicks offs were all cancelled!

Just as well as I didn't take a bloody expensive cab ride up to St Mary's park.Oh dear. You can almost take it for granted that when the weather's like this that all junior and intermediate matches would be off. If yer ever covering an Avondale match let me know cos my buddy plays for them. I know that a few people who post on here have links to other clubs.

[Echoboy]

Having a look at the site there and I thought it was a bit better to be honest, or is there another site i thinking of.

http://www.munsterseniorlea gue.ie/

[ho chi feen]

Oh dear. You can almost take it for granted that when the weather's like this that all junior and intermediate matches would be off. If yer ever covering an Avondale match let me know cos my buddy plays for them. I know that a few people who post on here have links to other clubs.

Yeah, figured as much but had been speaking to people at both clubs last night who still were of the assumption that it would go ahead. Downpour with thunder and lightning woke me up around 5, so I figured nah.

Cheers too, I'm starting off covering it for the Echo now as well. Will be mostly UCC to start with (which is handy, because I cover them as it is), but will no doubt be covering more in due course.

Having a look at the site there and I thought it was a bit better to be honest, or is there another site i thinking of.

http://www.munsterseniorlea gue.ie/

Yup, that's the one.

[Alan Smith]

It was off anyway, fella.

[delzer]

Cheers for posting up NOW that all today's 10:45am kicks offs were all cancelled!

Just as well as I didn't take a bloody expensive cab ride up to St Mary's park.

save up your expenses and get a car

[ho chi feen]

save up your expenses and get a car

Ha, I have one. Just not confident enough to take her out solo yet- or legally able to, for that matter. :)

[optimus]

Ha, I have one. Just not confident enough to take her out solo yet- or legally able to, for that matter. :)

legally schmeegally...
ul be fine ..

[ho chi feen]

legally schmeegally...
ul be fine ..

I know. ;)

I can't really drive though... not yet anyway. :oops:

[Up For The Ba]

Oh dear. You can almost take it for granted that when the weather's like this that all junior and intermediate matches would be off. If yer ever covering an Avondale match let me know cos my buddy plays for them. I know that a few people who post on here have links to other clubs.

Yup, Ho Chi you can ask me about Douglas Hall related matters.

[delzer]

I know. ;)

I can't really drive though... not yet anyway. :oops:

when you are more confident driving to msl grounds will be good practice for ya.

[duffer31]

check out he refs website as well lads for fixtures or cancelled fixtures well before the echo on a monday. sometimes there are 2 weeks in a row on there. www.isrscork.com

[Echoboy]

check out he refs website as well lads for fixtures or cancelled fixtures well before the echo on a monday. sometimes there are 2 weeks in a row on there. www.isrscork.com (http://www.isrscork.com)

http://blog.brianpoulsen.ne t/images/laugh.jpg

How can they expect to be taken seriously with music like that on their website :p:D

[ho chi feen]

Yup, Ho Chi you can ask me about Douglas Hall related matters.

Cheers man.

I went up to cover their game with UCC last week. Team's looking good again this season. Thought your man 'Strachan' looked handy when he came on- where did he get a nickname like that anyway, eh? ;)

when you are more confident driving to msl grounds will be good practice for ya.

Yup, true.

check out he refs website as well lads for fixtures or cancelled fixtures well before the echo on a monday. sometimes there are 2 weeks in a row on there. www.isrscork.com (http://www.isrscork.com/)

Cheers, that's got more info than the MSL site has.

[Up For The Ba]

Cheers man.

I went up to cover their game with UCC last week. Team's looking good again this season. Thought your man 'Strachan' looked handy when he came on- where did he get a nickname like that anyway, eh? ;)



Not quite sure where he got the name :D Ya, they are a great footballing side to be honest, have a stronger squad this year too which should be key to making a stronger challenge to Avondale & Rockmount for the league. Its a pity the way the draw fell for the Intermediate cup, or should I say a fix even!

[AmadeusDC]

Cheers man.

I went up to cover their game with UCC last week. Team's looking good again this season. Thought your man 'Strachan' looked handy when he came on- where did he get a nickname like that anyway, eh? ;)



Yup, true.



Cheers, that's got more info than the MSL site has.


Jesus, is he still playing for them? He was a savage player when he was a young fella and then dropped off a bit, improved a bit again obviously. Is Brendan Sweeney back playing for them these days or is he still playing Eircom ball? Another really good player who got better as he got older. -AmadeusDC-

[Johnny Logan]

http://blog.brianpoulsen.ne t/images/laugh.jpg

How can they expect to be taken seriously with music like that on their website :p:D

best pic in years

[ebenezer]

Thought your man 'Strachan' looked handy when he came on


Is Brendan Sweeney back playing for them these days or is he still playing Eircom ball?

Fuck. They're two poor players.

[Up For The Ba]

Jesus, is he still playing for them? He was a savage player when he was a young fella and then dropped off a bit, improved a bit again obviously. Is Brendan Sweeney back playing for them these days or is he still playing Eircom ball? Another really good player who got better as he got older. -AmadeusDC-

He`s only about 27. Brendan Sweeney lives in England now, playing a little over there alright.

[Up For The Ba]

Fuck. They're two poor players.

I think not.

[ho chi feen]

Not quite sure where he got the name :D Ya, they are a great footballing side to be honest, have a stronger squad this year too which should be key to making a stronger challenge to Avondale & Rockmount for the league. Its a pity the way the draw fell for the Intermediate cup, or should I say a fix even!

Haven't seen the draw, who are they playing?

Oh, and I've renamed the thread now. :)

[ebenezer]

I think not.

You're talking to an MSL First Division Winner and Keane Cup Winner from 2007/2008. 8-)

[duffer31]

have my usual 50 on rockmount for the league/intermediate cup double which is looking very good now with the hall and avondale gone from the cup. 50 on mayfield for promotion from the first division but that a far more competitive league.

[ebenezer]

Poor Mary's and Mayfield. :lol!:

[Up For The Ba]

You're talking to an MSL First Division Winner and Keane Cup Winner from 2007/2008. 8-)

Whats your point?

[Up For The Ba]

Haven't seen the draw, who are they playing?

Oh, and I've renamed the thread now. :)

Douglas Hall already got knocked out by Avondale, who drew Rockmount in the next round. How sussed is that.

[afeencalleddan]

You're talking to an MSL First Division Winner and Keane Cup Winner from 2007/2008. 8-)So it's like Roman Bednar saying that a couple of Arsenal players are shite.

[ebenezer]

So it's like Roman Bednar saying that a couple of Arsenal players are shite.

Nah. The boys won the double.

I played the Michael Bridges role.

[ho chi feen]

Was at the UCC - Avondale game tonight. Avondale won 1-0 through a Mark O'Sullivan goal. As might have been expected, Avondale were well on top in the first half. It was like a training match for them at times, College couldn't live with them. But in the second half, Avondale were abject- really, really awful- and very lucky to come away with the win. UCC took off Kirby up front for a beefier midielder, and were piling bodies forward. Really surprised Avondale didn't manage to stem the tide.

The other day too, was at UCC - Everton. Fucking hell, your man Eoin McCarthy got some goal. Picks it up with his back to goal on the corner of the 6 yard box, lifts it up, landed the centre-back on his arse and scooped it over the keeper.

UCC won't be challenging for the title certainly, but I can see them picking up something off the big sides as the season goes on, and they'll do well against the rest. They're a bit short on maturity and physicality, but they've got four or five really good ball players in their team.

[ho chi feen]

Jesus, is he still playing for them? He was a savage player when he was a young fella and then dropped off a bit, improved a bit again obviously. Is Brendan Sweeney back playing for them these days or is he still playing Eircom ball? Another really good player who got better as he got older. -AmadeusDC-

Wouldn't have been pulling up any trees, but he was really eager, snappy and willing to run and close down that day.

Bit like his namesake used to be, oddly enough. :)

[Up For The Ba]

Wouldn't have been pulling up any trees, but he was really eager, snappy and willing to run and close down that day.

Bit like his namesake used to be, oddly enough. :)

He`s quite skillful too when he wants to be. Thought he was one of the best players in the league last year.

[afeencalleddan]

Mark O'SullivanTalented player, prone to the odd mood swing. UFTB might know a bit about that.

[ho chi feen]

Here's my report on UCC - Avondale for the Echo anyway, in case anyone's interested.


UCC 0 Avondale 1

Avondale moved up to third with a single goal victory over table-toppers UCC at the Mardyke last Thursday. Mark O’Sullivan’s 15th minute strike scarcely reflected the gulf between the sides in a first half which resembled a training session for the visitors at times, but an abject second-half display will have given John Caulfield much to think about as his side bid for a second successive title. Stronger opposition might well have punished the champions for their lack of focus, but on the night College’s endeavour foundered on a lack of bite in the final third.

Avondale bossed the game with ease throughout the first half, with the hosts unable to live with their movement, physicality and quick passing. Although Barry Kirby headed narrowly over seven minutes in, it proved to be one-way traffic and it was no surprise to see Avondale take the lead.

The visitors had already exposed frailties in the home defence at corner kicks. Murphy’s cross-shot found David Spratt six yards out but the forward’s attempt was turned behind by Bambury. From the resulting corner the ball broke to Mark O’Sullivan on the edge of the area, and his low shot found its way through a mass of bodies into the back of the net.

A minute later Ken Murphy got on the end of a through ball but Bambury was out quickly to smother the danger. Shortly afterwards Avondale broke in numbers, but Knowles appeared to be in two minds with Bruton free on the right and his hesitancy allowed McSweeney to clear the ball.

UCC’s best chance of the half came on 25 minutes. Burgess took advantage of a defensive mix-up following a throw-in but the former Wycombe man’s touch was heavy as he lifted his volley over the bar. Spratt came close to doubling the lead before half-time, and it looked like a rout was on the cards.

But it proved to be a very different game after the interval. College boss Brendan Manley made a tactical switch to 4-5-1, beefing up the midfield with Richard O’Donovan and instructing Duggan and the wide-men to push up in support of McCarthy when in possession. Avondale rode their luck at times, relying on the students profligacy and inability to pick the right pass.

Ciaran Forde had a shot deflected over on 78 minutes, and with four minutes left came agonisingly close to turning the ball home after some excellent work by Duggan on the right. But their best chance came in stoppage time, and again Duggan was the architect. Cutting the ball back for O’Donovan, the ball then found its way to McCarthy on the edge of the area. His shot looked bound for bottom corner of the goal, but a desperate intervention from an Avondale defender saw the ball deflected behind for a corner.

UCC:
M Bambury; T Earls, S Hedderman, R Hourihan, M McSweeney; P O’Brien, C Forde, D Duggan, L Burgess; E McCarthy, P O’Brien.
Substitutions: S O’Brien for S Hedderman; R O’Donovan for B Kirby.
Booked: P O’Brien (67 mins).

Avondale:
B O’Connell; B O’Sullivan, E Lougheed, T Hughes, N Hartigan; K Murray, M Kieran, M O’Sullivan, A Knowles; D Spratt, W Bruton.
Substitutions: J Cotter for W Bruton; P Coakley for A Knowles; D Welch for M Kieran.
Booked: A Knowles (26 mins); T Hughes (73 mins)

[afeencalleddan]

M KieranIt wouldn't be an echo report without a trusty old mis-print.

[ho chi feen]

It wouldn't be an echo report without a trusty old mis-print.

Not even I'm afraid, that's what it says on my notes.

[afeencalleddan]

Not even I'm afraid, that's what it says on my notes.Clear out your desk, you're fired. :p

[ho chi feen]

Clear out your desk, you're fired.

Heh, desk? What desk! ;-)

What should it be, Kierans?

[afeencalleddan]

Heh, desk? What desk! ;-)

What should it be, Kierans?Michael Kiernan is the chap's name, I believe.

Spratty and I go way back. Used to play in central midfield together in our school days. You'd never believe that he was a skinny little runt in those days and I was the brick shit-house. Then I stopped growing and he turned out to be strong as an ox to go along with his natural talent.

[ho chi feen]

Michael Kiernan is the chap's name, I believe.

Spratty and I go way back. Used to play in central midfield together in our school days. You'd never believe that he was a skinny little runt in those days and I was the brick shit-house. Then I stopped growing and he turned out to be strong as an ox to go along with his natural talent.

'Tis the way it goes, I guess.

How about their David Welch, used to hang around with his brother when I was younger- assuming he's the same David Welch that was on City's books for a few years?

[afeencalleddan]

How about their David Welch, used to hang around with his brother when I was younger- assuming he's the same David Welch that was on City's books for a few years?I'm not familiar with him to be honest.

Who's W.Bruton by the way? Is it Willie Bruton who used play for Ramblers? I know Ken Bruton (fair hair and quick feet) but didn't realise Willie Bruton had signed for Avondale.

[ho chi feen]

I'm not familiar with him to be honest.

Who's W.Bruton by the way? Is it Willie Bruton who used play for Ramblers? I know Ken Bruton (fair hair and quick feet) but didn't realise Willie Bruton had signed for Avondale.

Yeah, it's Willie Bruton alright.

[ebenezer]

Avondale were beaten by an 8/1 shot over the weekend.

1-3 on their own patch.

[afeencalleddan]

Avondale were beaten by an 8/1 shot over the weekend.

1-3 on their own patch.Did the collig bate em? Fawk. Didn't get to speak to Dave over the weekend. They won't be happy about that.

[ho chi feen]

Did the collig bate em? Fawk. Didn't get to speak to Dave over the weekend. They won't be happy about that.

Apparently so, missed that.

Total shocka.

[Up For The Ba]

Talented player, prone to the odd mood swing. UFTB might know a bit about that.


More than the odd one, should be on the Irish amateur team, dont think it interests him.

[Alan Smith]

Not even I'm afraid, that's what it says on my notes.

Amateur

[ho chi feen]

Amateur

Meh.

Did anyone read last night's Echo? Was there any MSL in it? I know Wednesday's the day, but they had a report in last Monday's.

[Up For The Ba]

Meh.

Did anyone read last night's Echo? Was there any MSL in it? I know Wednesday's the day, but they had a report in last Monday's.

They usually would alright, didnt see it though.

[Stuck in Dumpland]

Michael Kiernan is the chap's name, I believe.

Spratty and I go way back. Used to play in central midfield together in our school days. You'd never believe that he was a skinny little runt in those days and I was the brick shit-house. Then I stopped growing and he turned out to be strong as an ox to go along with his natural talent.

Strictly speaking it's Michéal, if we're correcting Ho Chi on spelling!! ;-)

[Stuck in Dumpland]

Meh.

Did anyone read last night's Echo? Was there any MSL in it? I know Wednesday's the day, but they had a report in last Monday's.

Report was on Mary's Rockmount cup final (Donie Forde/Keane Cup or some shite like that). Rockmount won 2-1 after extra time, i think.

[Alan Smith]

Meh.

Did anyone read last night's Echo? Was there any MSL in it? I know Wednesday's the day, but they had a report in last Monday's.

Usually there is one report from each of the CSL, MSL, Youth and WCSL on a Monday with the rest then on a Wednesday.

Then on a Friday the tables are published as well as a preview to the weekend fixtures.

I wouldn't worry too much about a name being spelt wrong either. The managers usually just scribble it down with a couple of mistakes.
;)

[ho chi feen]

Usually there is one report from each of the CSL, MSL, Youth and WCSL on a Monday with the rest then on a Wednesday.

Then on a Friday the tables are published as well as a preview to the weekend fixtures.

I wouldn't worry too much about a name being spelt wrong either. The managers usually just scribble it down with a couple of mistakes.
;)

Yeah, a certain team who shall remain nameless's boss is in the habit of mispelling a particular player's name- in fact, varying it from week to week.

Thinking back, I'm pretty sure I got this one down as it appeared- I remember thinking that it should surely have an s at the end.

Yerrah, in summary- fawk it.

[Alan Smith]

On today

;)

[ho chi feen]

Douglas Hall went down 2-0 at home today against Blarney.

[wat_boy]

a buddy of mine plays for passage, they went down last year, larry lee is his name, fantastic player but always getting himself sent off

[afeencalleddan]

How has the weather been affecting Cork's pitches this weekend? I'm in a right lazy mood at the moment so half hoping our match is off tomorrow.

[ho chi feen]

How has the weather been affecting Cork's pitches this weekend? I'm in a right lazy mood at the moment so half hoping our match is off tomorrow.

Castleview v UCC is off, according the MSL site. Only prem game that was scheduled.

*edit*

Wrong there- Everton v Avondale is still ON, apparently, as is St Mary's v Mallow in the cup.

Alan Smith would have a better idea, he covers a lot of schoolboys stuff, but I'd say he's in bed at this stage. 0 degrees now though.

[ho chi feen]

a buddy of mine plays for passage, they went down last year, larry lee is his name, fantastic player but always getting himself sent off

Not doing too well this season either, 7 from 4 and 3rd bottom with all the sides around them having games in hand.

[afeencalleddan]

0 degrees now though.Let it get colder. COLDER, I say!!!!!

I'll have to text some of the lads in the morning to see if their games are going ahead. Afternoon kick off for us so depends on the thaw I suppose. I'd still imagine most pitches are rock hard.

[ho chi feen]

Lazy bugger. Although I'd be lying if I said I was gutted at not having to make a 10am trek up to deepest, darkest Fairhill...

[afeencalleddan]

Lazy bugger.Sometimes I just totally fall out of love with playing the game. It feels like such a chore when there's disharmony creeping into a club. At this level (shipping league, by the way) if you can't enjoy your game then what's the fucking point?

[ho chi feen]

Sometimes I just totally fall out of love with playing the game. It feels like such a chore when there's disharmony creeping into a club. At this level (shipping league, by the way) if you can't enjoy your game then what's the fucking point?

Dose.

Could wangle a Dunphy-esque disaster diary out of it though!

[Alan Smith]

Can safely say the majority of games will be off today :/

[afeencalleddan]

Everton v Avondale went ahead anyway. Avondale won 3-1 with a brace from Spratt.

[ho chi feen]

Everton v Avondale went ahead anyway. Avondale won 3-1 with a brace from Spratt.

How about your game?

St Mary's v Mallow went ahead too in the cup, 4-0.

[ho chi feen]

Lads I'd say that Avondale - Ballincollig game was no fluke. Just saw the Collig thump UCC 4-1 at the Farm today. Even compared to UCC, they looked very young (unusual in the MSL), and the amount of energy and pace they have in the team is frightening. They have some very skilful attackers too. All in all, they look to have the potential to become a serious team.

[ho chi feen]

Big win for Hall too, 6-1 at basement dwellers Cobh.

[ebenezer]

Lads I'd say that Avondale - Ballincollig game was no fluke. Just saw the Collig thump UCC 4-1 at the Farm today. Even compared to UCC, they looked very young (unusual in the MSL), and the amount of energy and pace they have in the team is frightening. They have some very skilful attackers too. All in all, they look to have the potential to become a serious team.

:cool:

[ho chi feen]

:cool:

Was talking to the ref after, he reffed their game against Avondale. Said they ran them into the ground, their legs were gone in the end. Not quite the case today, but the cut UCC to pieces on the counter-attack, having been 1-0 down in the first half.

[ho chi feen]

Report on Ballincollig v UCC.

Ballincollig 4 UCC 1

Ballincollig made it three wins on the bounce with a second-half demolition of UCC at the Farm last Saturday. Finding themselves a goal down, they rode their luck at times in the opening period but went into the interval level after College keeper Bambury’s concession of a needless penalty. It was mostly one-way traffic after the break though, with the hosts displaying the same verve and energy which characterised their surprise win over Avondale a fortnight ago. Should they maintain this sort of form, Paul Doyle’s side will prove a match for anyone in the division.

The outcome might have been very different though, for it was College who looked the better team early on and they took the lead through Luke Burgess on 10 minutes. A sliced clearance went only as far as Eoin McCarthy, who headed the ball back into Burgess and the right winger slotted the ball past Donncha Murphy into the bottom corner of the goal.

Chances were few and far between, with McCarthy looking the most likely to extend the lead. All appeared to be going to plan for College until Bambury charged off his line to fell an opposing attacker with little obvious danger present. Christopher O’Brien made no mistake from the spot, drilling the ball low to the keeper’s right.

The game opened up after half-time and although UCC did come close on a couple of occasions, most notably through Daniel Duggan on 74 minutes with the score at 2-1, the students were simply run into the ground by Ballincollig’s quick passing and relentless attempts to break whenever the opportunity arose.

They didn’t help their cause by defending meekly at times. One such incident was punished on 63 minutes, with Christopher O’Brien again the scorer. Receiving the ball unmarked at the back-post, he rifled a first-time volley home.

Richard O’Brien had a goal flagged for offside which probably ought to have stood on 80 minutes. It mattered little though, for three minutes later Ballincollig wrapped up the points. Patrick Kelly controlled a speculative ball forward on the edge of the area before unleashing an unstoppable volley.

The rout was completed three minutes from time by the irrepressible Christopher O’Brien. Profiting from a defensive mix-up between the opposing centre-halves, he cooly lifted the ball over them both with his heel and rounded Bambury to seal a deserved hat-trick.


Ballincollig: D Murphy; B Lawlor, G Fookes, A Healy, D Forde; C Cronin, J Duff, P Kelly, I Roche; R O’Brien, C O’Brien

UCC: M Bambury; T Earls, S Hedderman, R Hourihan, M McSweeney; L Burgess, D Duggan, C Forde, P O’Brien; E McCarthy, B Kirby

Referee: Jim Haines

[ebenezer]

As the season progresses, watch our defensive frailties.

[ho chi feen]

As the season progresses, watch our defensive frailties.

Lack of height might be a factor too. Very fit and eager looking bunch though.

[Poison]

I seen Ballincollig a few times last season and they had a very young side but were a very fit side.These players will be hungry and out to prove that they can compete in the premier.They seem to be well able to soak up the pressure and break quickly.

They lost Cathal Lordan to Blarney before the season started and he was a loss but they seem to be doing well without him.

[duffer31]

I seen Ballincollig a few times last season and they had a very young side but were a very fit side.These players will be hungry and out to prove that they can compete in the premier.They seem to be well able to soak up the pressure and break quickly.

They lost Cathal Lordan to Blarney before the season started and he was a loss but they seem to be doing well without him.


take out the top 2 or 3 (if you rate douglas hall) and ballincollig should easily be able to complete as there is very little between the rest of the sides then. the fact they dont know or care about teams and will be hugry should see them finish high up imo from experience. beware second season syndrome as they say next year....

[Up For The Ba]

take out the top 2 or 3 (if you rate douglas hall) ...

3 wins from 3 games, Intermediate Cup finalists, always progressing into the open draw in recent years (obviously wont happen this year), why wouldnt you rate them?

[Alan Smith]

Anybody have results from the 3 games yesterday?

[ho chi feen]

'Keep up the work and remember you are a reporter and not a UCC fan'.

Got this much feedback from d'Echo.

Heh heh heh

Table looks interesting... I see Ballincollig have dropped some points recently.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/msltable.jpg

And the fixtures:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/MSLfixtures.jpg

Highly winnable game for Ballincollig there. Hall - Avondale should be a cracker. Hard to see beyond a home win for Rockmount.

[Up For The Ba]

Big game tonight for Hall, squad is a bit depleted at the moment though.

[duffer31]

'Keep up the work and remember you are a reporter and not a UCC fan'.

Got this much feedback from d'Echo.

Heh heh heh

Table looks interesting... I see Ballincollig have dropped some points recently.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/msltable.jpg

And the fixtures:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/MSLfixtures.jpg

Highly winnable game for Ballincollig there. Hall - Avondale should be a cracker. Hard to see beyond a home win for Rockmount.

are you saying that away to blarney is a winable game for ballincollig ho chi cos if you are you clearly don't know much about senior league.

[Stuck in Dumpland]

are you saying that away to blarney is a winable game for ballincollig ho chi cos if you are you clearly don't know much about senior league.

Well with Alan Weldon out for Blarney with a broken ankle it's possible. Massive loss to any team, with Rockmount not looking as comfortable at the back since he left them in the summer.

[duffer31]

Well with Alan Weldon out for Blarney with a broken ankle it's possible. Massive loss to any team, with Rockmount not looking as comfortable at the back since he left them in the summer.

couldn't agree more as i know him well but they have plenty in reserve. they are spoiled at the back. only way i can see ballincollig getting a win is if blarney totally take them for granted which is possible. 'collig will get 10 points alone this season from the surprise factor that all promoted clubs get just like mary's. beware second season syndrome though when the hunger dies off a bit and teams have worked you out. the senior league has become a pointless league if you ask me with nobody ever really going to threaten rockmount or avondale to any great extent. douglas hall and blarney huff and puff but the odd year aside it will be those 2. im going out to blarney v douglas hall tonight actually in blarney. its 6/4 blarney and 6/4 douglas hall. draw id written all over this one at 2/1.

[Stuck in Dumpland]

couldn't agree more as i know him well but they have plenty in reserve. they are spoiled at the back. only way i can see ballincollig getting a win is if blarney totally take them for granted which is possible. 'collig will get 10 points alone this season from the surprise factor that all promoted clubs get just like mary's. beware second season syndrome though when the hunger dies off a bit and teams have worked you out. the senior league has become a pointless league if you ask me with nobody ever really going to threaten rockmount or avondale to any great extent. douglas hall and blarney huff and puff but the odd year aside it will be those 2. im going out to blarney v douglas hall tonight actually in blarney. its 6/4 blarney and 6/4 douglas hall. draw id written all over this one at 2/1.

Yeah, it's always gonna be those 2. Played with Welly in UCC and then signed for Avondale after graduating for Caulfield's first year. The had finished in the bottom 2 in the first division the season before but a few of us from UCC went down there and won first division that year and premier the following year and since then they've gone from strength to strength and 'dale and Rockmount have left everyone behind.

Pisses me of tho that practically everyone from my UCC team has a league/intermediate cup/LOI medal and we never won the MSL with UCC with the players we had

[duffer31]

Yeah, it's always gonna be those 2. Played with Welly in UCC and then signed for Avondale after graduating for Caulfield's first year. The had finished in the bottom 2 in the first division the season before but a few of us from UCC went down there and won first division that year and premier the following year and since then they've gone from strength to strength and 'dale and Rockmount have left everyone behind.

Pisses me of tho that practically everyone from my UCC team has a league/intermediate cup/LOI medal and we never won the MSL with UCC with the players we had


i probably played against ya many a time. played senior from 96 til 2006 with leeds and then a year with castle view with a friend. when we played ucc you never ever knew what you were going to get. ye always had such a turn over of players it was always going inevitable that ye would not win a league....

[AmadeusDC]

Yeah, it's always gonna be those 2. Played with Welly in UCC and then signed for Avondale after graduating for Caulfield's first year. The had finished in the bottom 2 in the first division the season before but a few of us from UCC went down there and won first division that year and premier the following year and since then they've gone from strength to strength and 'dale and Rockmount have left everyone behind.

Pisses me of tho that practically everyone from my UCC team has a league/intermediate cup/LOI medal and we never won the MSL with UCC with the players we had

Ya, UCC had a great squad for a few years but they always seemed to have a massive turnover of players. That can't be good for winning a league title regardless of talent. -AmadeusDC-

[Stuck in Dumpland]

i probably played against ya many a time. played senior from 96 til 2006 with leeds and then a year with castle view with a friend. when we played ucc you never ever knew what you were going to get. ye always had such a turn over of players it was always going inevitable that ye would not win a league....

Ya, UCC had a great squad for a few years but they always seemed to have a massive turnover of players. That can't be good for winning a league title regardless of talent. -AmadeusDC-

There were 2 seasons from 2000 to 2002 where we really should have won one where there was a settled team and minimal turnover. Lost one to Corinthians by 3 points where they fluked two 1-0 wins against us. Even a draw in one would have won us the league.

That was some team with Alan Weldon, Micheal Kiernan, Kieran O'Mahony, Dave Spratt, Ken Bruton, Willie O'Keefe, Paul Kelleher who all eventually won leagues with Avondale/Rockmount plus Mucky who went to Cork City and Cobh and the likes of Wanchope, Paul Rose, Darren Hayes, Skippy and Kieran Mahon who all moved away from Cork after graduating and packed in playing.

[duffer31]

There were 2 seasons from 2000 to 2002 where we really should have won one where there was a settled team and minimal turnover. Lost one to Corinthians by 3 points where they fluked two 1-0 wins against us. Even a draw in one would have won us the league.

That was some team with Alan Weldon, Micheal Kiernan, Kieran O'Mahony, Dave Spratt, Ken Bruton, Willie O'Keefe, Paul Kelleher who all eventually won leagues with Avondale/Rockmount plus Mucky who went to Cork City and Cobh and the likes of Wanchope, Paul Rose, Darren Hayes, Skippy and Kieran Mahon who all moved away from Cork after graduating and packed in playing.

quality all round there. i know them all very well. i was out with kieran o mahoney all over xmas. the standard around that time was very high. the standard has gone way way back the last 5 years. back then you had many challengers for the league even though it was the same outcome in the end.now apart from the top 3 or 4 the standard of team and player is much of a muchness even with the first division top teams. 6 stuck in a relegation battle every year for the last 4 years and since it went to ten teams there is fearce competition and more excitement at the bottom..

[ebenezer]

Ballincollig have a good side.

[duffer31]

Ballincollig have a good side.


ya they would give forrest a run i'd say....:)

[ho chi feen]

are you saying that away to blarney is a winable game for ballincollig ho chi cos if you are you clearly don't know much about senior league.

I don't know man, they just seem to be really up for it from what I've seen. Nobody would have given them a chance in hell at Avondale, and look what happened there.

I'm far from an expert though, I've only been tracking the league since the start of last season, and only in real depth this year.

*edit* You've a fair point on the second season syndrome thing too, but to be fair, they're flying at the moment.

[duffer31]

I don't know man, they just seem to be really up for it from what I've seen. Nobody would have given them a chance in hell at Avondale, and look what happened there.

I'm far from an expert though, I've only been tracking the league since the start of last season, and only in real depth this year.

*edit* You've a fair point on the second season syndrome thing too, but to be fair, they're flying at the moment.


more power to 'um ho chi and as you know football is a funny ould game.having no fear in football is a truly marvellous thing but tis just a pity it never lasts much. look at derby during the week. free from all the doom and gloom and looking into a new fresh start and they played united of the park and should have won by 3. they will probably be beaten this weeknd then by cardiff after a high. come on the collig and all that anyway.....

[afeencalleddan]

are you saying that away to blarney is a winable game for ballincollig ho chi cos if you are you clearly don't know much about senior league.I'll have a million euro at 1/100 that you're being condescending there. It's a banker. How does it feel to be an INTERNET hypocrite?

[ho chi feen]

Everton stick four past Cobh, Avondale win 1-0 at hall.

[duffer31]

I'll have a million euro at 1/100 that you're being condescending there. It's a banker. How does it feel to be an INTERNET hypocrite?


you have serious issues. that was not said in any condescending way at all and as far as i can see ho chi had no problem with A SIMPLE CONVERSATION.
you need to get out more man or get laid.now thats a banker. ho chi my sincere apologies if you did take my comment as condescending.

watch any games yesterday. blarney did turn over ballincollig 1-0 in the end. i watched a dour game at leeds park between leeds and carrigaline in terrible conditions.


im calling well and truly rattled dan. i cant get over how rattled you are. sad sad man.

[ho chi feen]

Was supposed to head to Rockmount, but she got cancelled.

[Alan Smith]

Was supposed to head to Rockmount, but she got cancelled.

The coldest pitch on earth, bar Knockraha park which isn't really a pitch as it's on an actual farm.

[Up For The Ba]

Disappointing result for the Hall, from what I heard a draw would have been a fair result, same old story.

[afeencalleddan]

The coldest pitch on earth, bar Knockraha park which isn't really a pitch as it's on an actual farm.I wish that whole Pigeon hill area got hit by a meteorite. Anti-football pitches all of them.

[Alan Smith]

I wish that whole Pigeon hill area got hit by a meteorite. Anti-football pitches all of them.

Ah yes. Especially when you're there from 10 until half one in the middle of Janurary trying to take notes when there is a freezing cold gale force wind and the pitch is so bad that football can't even be played on it.

[Up For The Ba]

Douglas Hall have lost Seamus Long to Waterford Utd. Big loss, this is gonna be a huge blow to their season.

[Alan Smith]

Good signing for Waterford, though.

[ho chi feen]

Yeah, him and Devine should do well there.

If anyone gets wind of todays results (Collig v Rockmount and Hall v Everton) please post 'em up as the MSL site can sometimes take an eternity.

[Up For The Ba]

Yeah, him and Devine should do well there.

If anyone gets wind of todays results (Collig v Rockmount and Hall v Everton) please post 'em up as the MSL site can sometimes take an eternity.

Hall game was called off anyway.

[ho chi feen]

Hall game was called off anyway.

Quelle surprise!

I was hoping the UCC game would be called off the other night, but the Mardyke pitch is too good. FFS. Came home with stalactites for legs.

[Up For The Ba]

Quelle surprise!

I was hoping the UCC game would be called off the other night, but the Mardyke pitch is too good. FFS. Came home with stalactites for legs.

There may not be too many Hall games called off from here on in either. New pitch has been completed today, floodlit games in the near future too. I`ll have a word to see if they`ll build you a little booth to keep ya warm ;-)

[Alan Smith]

I wonder will there be anything on today? :|

Going to be a right bollocks- supposed to be covering two schoolboys games in a minute and nobody from the club has a phone that they can answer.
Therefore, I've to get a fucking cab across the city when the match might not even be played.

[duffer31]

fuck all on this morning. 99% of aul and senior league games got called last night.

[ho chi feen]

Here's a report on the UCC v Cobh Wanderers basement affair the other night. It's the UCC Express article, not my Echo one, so it's necessarily slanted towards UCC.

Cracker of a game though, probably the best game in terms of drama barring the Setanta Cup Final that I've been to in the last year.

UCC 3 Cobh Wanderers 2

It’s been three long hard months for Brendan Manley’s side, but a long overdue victory on Thursday night should give UCC a major confidence boost ahead of this week’s Collingwood Cup campaign. Both sides went into this game in wretched form; Wanderers rooted to the foot of the table, and UCC having failed to win since November.

College had to do it the hard way though. Having taken the lead in the first half through a penalty from the outstanding Daniel Duggan, they managed to fall behind to opposition reduced numerically by the sending-off of Paul Stanton. College never gave up the chase, but Cobh will be crestfallen after conceding two late goals.

In a frantic opening period, the best chances fell to the hosts. With ten minutes played, Duggan’s corner was flicked on by Eoghan Young for Shane Hegarty, but his header arced narrowly over the bar. Worryingly for the visitors, their goalkeeper Jason Greene appeared to pick up a groin strain and required several minutes treatment. With only two substitutes named, neither of whom were goalkeepers, Cobh could ill-afford to have lost their custodian at this point. Greene managed to soldier on carrying a limp, handing goal-kicking duties over to his defence for the rest of the game.

Luke Burgess and Duggan were providing a constant threat to the visiting defence, with Duggan popping up everywhere. Simon Hedderman angled the ball back to Duggan from a free kick, but his effort from the corner of the area cleared the bar.

Just shy of the half-hour mark, Richard O’Donovan drew a fine save from Greene after connecting with a cross from Shane Hegarty. Moments later Padraig O’Brien came close to breaking the deadlock with a volley from outside the area.

The goal came on 33 minutes from the spot. Burgess played Hegarty through with a beautifully weighted pass, and Jonathan O'Mahony's clumsy tackle brought the striker down. Greene got a big hand on Duggan’s spot kick, but the ball just about crossed the line. Cobh were aggrieved with the referees decision, and there was certainly a hint of offside before the fould was committed.

Cobh had posed only intermittent danger to the home side, largely through Ian Stack’s willingness to shoot from distance. Fittingly, Stack was the man who dragged his side back on level terms with a peach of a goal. His first time volley from 30 yard out on the right caught keeper Kelly completely off guard as it dipped towards the back of the net.

Connie Murphy pulled an effort narrowly wide for Cobh just before the interval, but then came the hammer blow. Referee Klier called the play back for an off the ball incident and had no hesitation in flashing the red card at Stanton.

As one might expect, College tore into the visitors in the second-half as they sought to ram their advantage home. O’Brien came close four minutes into the half, and then rattled the crossbar after bursting into the are shortly afterwards. Tommy Cronin then came close for Cobh as they sought to hit their hosts on the break.

It was this refusal to fold that led to Cobh stunning College on 66 minutes. The energetic Gavin O’Flaherty broke free on the right before cutting the ball back for Ian Stapleton. Left completely unmarked the midfielder volleyed home emphatically to give his side an unlikely lead.

College’s attempts to get back in the game became frantic as the game wore on. Cobh defended heroically and even threatened to extend their lead on 83 minutes when Barry Hastings headed inches over. As they cursed their luck College immediately broke in numbers and next thing Hegarty, stretching for a breaking ball, prodded home to level matters.

Again, Cobh came close minutes later from a corner before College’s O’Donovan headed over. It looked like the visitors had done enough to secure a draw, but four minutes into stoppage time O’Brien stepped up to break Cobh hearts. Duggan lifted a free-kick into the area from deep and the midfielder strained to send a header looping over the keeper from the back post.


UCC:
Eoin Kelly; Simon Hedderman, Eoghan Young, Rob Hourihan, Michael McSweeney; Luke Burgess, Richard O’Donovan, Ciarán Forde, Padraig O’Brien; Daniel Duggan; Shane Hegarty.

Subs not used: Mark O’Reagan, Richard Ryan, Sean Heneghan, Barry Kirby, Mark Bambury

Cobh Wanderers:
Jason Greene; Jonathan O'Mahony, Robbie O’Keefe, Barry Hastings, Gavin O’Flaherty; Shane McDermott, Ian Stapleton, Connie Murphy, Paul Stanton; Ian Stack; Tommy Cronin (Farrel O’Connor 72).

Subs not used: Gordon Cronin
Booked: Robbie O’Keefe (53)
Sent off: Paul Stanton (45+1)

Referee: D. Klier
Assistants: A. O’Regan, J. Haines

[ho chi feen]

It looks like it's going to go to the wire at both ends of the table anyway, wins for Rockmount, Hall and Avondale tonight. Avondale on 39 points with 2 to play, Hall 31 with 5 left, Rockmount on 30 with 6 left. Still tight at the bottom as well, Castleview closing on UCC, Ballincollig and possibly Everton too in the mix.

[ebenezer]

Ballincollig and Castleview ended one each.

[ho chi feen]

Ballincollig and Castleview ended one each.

Did indeed. Great result for UCC, considering the tonking they got off Rockmount tonight.

FAO: Rockmount watchers- is it normal for them to play with three centre backs? Nice to see something other than than 4-4-2/4-5-1/5-5-0 at play for once.

[duffer31]

Did indeed. Great result for UCC, considering the tonking they got off Rockmount tonight.

FAO: Rockmount watchers- is it normal for them to play with three centre backs? Nice to see something other than than 4-4-2/4-5-1/5-5-0 at play for once.


they have played with 3 centre backs ho-chi as long as billy cronin is in charge and rarely move from it. why would they with the quality of them. i played senior league for 12 years and i dont thimk i have ever played them when they had an other formation nor watched them. now that they were beaten in the interm. cup they should walk the league imo even if they have a lot of games. good to see douglas hall making it a 3 horse race instead of 2 this year. its all up for grabs but its rockmount i would say and i hate the fuckers. ha ha

[ho chi feen]

they have played with 3 centre backs ho-chi as long as billy cronin is in charge and rarely move from it. why would they with the quality of them. i played senior league for 12 years and i dont thimk i have ever played them when they had an other formation nor watched them. now that they were beaten in the interm. cup they should walk the league imo even if they have a lot of games. good to see douglas hall making it a 3 horse race instead of 2 this year. its all up for grabs but its rockmount i would say and i hate the fuckers. ha ha

Fair enough. I saw them play UCC last season, but I honestly don't remember what system they were using that day.

Team and management (and their large support) had a bit of a running battle with the ref Jim Haines for the 90 minutes... one of them got booked for dissent. Beechinor picked up a nasty looking injury for them just before the break, tried to turn and create some space at the byline, and it looked like he tweaked his ligaments. Was still limping off the subs bench at the end.

[duffer31]

Fair enough. I saw them play UCC last season, but I honestly don't remember what system they were using that day.

Team and management (and their large support) had a bit of a running battle with the ref Jim Haines for the 90 minutes... one of them got booked for dissent. Beechinor picked up a nasty looking injury for them just before the break, tried to turn and create some space at the byline, and it looked like he tweaked his ligaments. Was still limping off the subs bench at the end.

don't talk to me about the bullying. they do that every game. last time i saw them was an intermediate cup game 2 months ago against mayfield. john thompson was close to blowing the game up from the abuse he was getting. they always try to intimidate and its just not the refs ho-chi. my old gang leeeds are right in the hunt for promotion but they will be straight back down id say if they get there at all. douglas halls defeat last night will have dealt them a blow. avondale had a great win in blarney.

[ho chi feen]

Huge week in the making here. Ballincollig hosting the Hall today, with Castleview travelling to Blarney and St Mary's going to Rockmount tomorrow. Then on Thursday, we have Avondale v St Mary's, doomed Cobh hosting sinking Ballincollig, Hall v Rockmount which will be crucial in terms of the title race, and a vital relegation clash between UCC and Castleview at the Mardyke.

[ho chi feen]

Anyone got today's results? Ballincollig went down 3-1 to Douglas Hall yesterday anyway.

[ho chi feen]

Okay, results now up.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/results.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/table-2.jpg

Fixtures:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/fixtures.jpg

[duffer31]

Okay, results now up.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/results.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/table-2.jpg

Fixtures:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/fixtures.jpg


its between your beloved ucc and castleview for the drop it looks like ho-chi. top of the first division will go to the last day. should be exciting but ant see leeds mayfield or ringmahon staying up next year. all 3 look sur par to be honest but sure you never know. i was down in the mardyke saturday afternoon for those charity matches. were you there.

[Stuck in Dumpland]

Be a shame to see UCC go down, IMO. Was playing with them when wewon the first division to come up back in 99 so ten years is a pretty good stretch for UCC when you consider where they were coming from. Not too many other teams have been in the premier league for the last ten years staight (Rockmount, Everton maybe)

Those matches were good saturday too. Great way to remember Johnny Herlihy and what he did.

[duffer31]

Be a shame to see UCC go down, IMO. Was playing with them when wewon the first division to come up back in 99 so ten years is a pretty good stretch for UCC when you consider where they were coming from. Not too many other teams have been in the premier league for the last ten years staight (Rockmount, Everton maybe)

Those matches were good saturday too. Great way to remember Johnny Herlihy and what he did.

did they not gio down at all in that time dumpland. im sure they went down only a few years ago. not sure though.

[Stuck in Dumpland]

Nope. They've been in decline the last 2-3 years but never went down.

I think it'd be a shame for the MSL if they did as they try to play good ball and they tend to produce good players who in turn improve the other clubs.

[ho chi feen]

its between your beloved ucc and castleview for the drop it looks like ho-chi. top of the first division will go to the last day. should be exciting but ant see leeds mayfield or ringmahon staying up next year. all 3 look sur par to be honest but sure you never know. i was down in the mardyke saturday afternoon for those charity matches. were you there.

My beloved UCC? Heh heh heh

The one thing they've got in their favour is that Castleview's game in hand is against Hall. It's funny to see how UCC have landed themselves in trouble, because they've not been all that bad... been taken apart a couple of times no doubt (and a couple I've missed), but it's been their chronic inability to score that's hurt them the most. I've seen them dominate games and draw, or go down 1-0, 2-1, etc... Castleview away a few weeks back being a case in point. I got a lift back down with an old lad from Castleview and he couldn't believe they'd won 1-0- said it should have been 4-1 to UCC.

It would be a shame to see them go down though, it could set back football at the College (already in a poor position with regards to rugby) for years.

[leftback]

Had a look at passage and corinthians at the weekend a 0-0 stalemate. Corinthians very young and very raw relying a lot on some of their still impressive veterans to keep things together for them at the back. They should be too good to go down another division but how many times have we heard that before..

[Up For The Ba]

Huge week in the making here. Ballincollig hosting the Hall today, with Castleview travelling to Blarney and St Mary's going to Rockmount tomorrow. Then on Thursday, we have Avondale v St Mary's, doomed Cobh hosting sinking Ballincollig, Hall v Rockmount which will be crucial in terms of the title race, and a vital relegation clash between UCC and Castleview at the Mardyke.

Hall V Rockmount is a cup game.

[ho chi feen]

Hall V Rockmount is a cup game.

Aye, I read the list wrong at the time.

Correct fixtures/times as of last night:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/Eejitry/fixtures.jpg

[duffer31]

My beloved UCC? Heh heh heh

The one thing they've got in their favour is that Castleview's game in hand is against Hall. It's funny to see how UCC have landed themselves in trouble, because they've not been all that bad... been taken apart a couple of times no doubt (and a couple I've missed), but it's been their chronic inability to score that's hurt them the most. I've seen them dominate games and draw, or go down 1-0, 2-1, etc... Castleview away a few weeks back being a case in point. I got a lift back down with an old lad from Castleview and he couldn't believe they'd won 1-0- said it should have been 4-1 to UCC.

It would be a shame to see them go down though, it could set back football at the College (already in a poor position with regards to rugby) for years.


it wouldnt be the end of the world ho-chi as the first division is more or less the same standard as the bottom six of the premiere tbh. same clubs down there every year battling with each other. it is actually more exciting than the race to win it which is normally the celtivc or rangers of the senior league in rockmount or avondale.nice to see hall challenging. nobody else won it since castleview a few years back as far as i can remember anyway. ucc would have a great chance of coming back up if they do get relegated.

[ho chi feen]

Went along to the UCC v Castleview game tonigh in the cup, absolute cracker. UCC took an early lead and looked to be coasting, but Castleview hauled themselves back in through sheer determination and won 2-1. Highly enjoyable fare.

[duffer31]

Went along to the UCC v Castleview game tonigh in the cup, absolute crack. UCC took an early lead and looked to be coasting, but Castleview hauled themselves back in through sheer determination and won 2-1. Highly enjoyable fair.

bet they wish they could swap the win for 3 points....

[Up For The Ba]

The Hall beat Rockmount 2-1. Hopefully they can do it again in the league.

[duffer31]

The Hall beat Rockmount 2-1. Hopefully they can do it again in the league.

they will need to. the have games left against rockmount avondale and blarney and will need to win them all imo.

[leftback]

Interesting end to season in 1st division with loadsa big games y'day. Mayfield won the league and havin seen em a few times this year they were deserved winners. Went to the corinthians carrigaline game y'day and cors were deserved winners. Carrigaline were in the prem a couple of seasons ago so a big fall from grace for them. Rumour going around that the management team aren't flavour of the month with some of the carrig players. Think they're the same mgrs who got cors relegated a few years ago. Interesting times!

[duffer31]

Interesting end to season in 1st division with loadsa big games y'day. Mayfield won the league and havin seen em a few times this year they were deserved winners. Went to the corinthians carrigaline game y'day and cors were deserved winners. Carrigaline were in the prem a couple of seasons ago so a big fall from grace for them. Rumour going around that the management team aren't flavour of the month with some of the carrig players. Think they're the same mgrs who got cors relegated a few years ago. Interesting times!

im a leeds man all my life lefty and can say with honesty that if leeds went up they would only have been straight back down the following year. i was at the match and they were 2 down in 5 mins. very very young inexperienced team but hopefully in the next few years the lads can have a good go at it. i know the mayfield lads well and the were very gracious in victory in front of a big crowd and i must give that a big thumbs up. they invited the management and players back for a pint afterwards and many went. best of luck to them next year. i think they may be just about able to stay up if the get in one or two. ringmahon may struggle a bit more but who knows. if you take out the top 4 in the premiere then they are all much the same to me......

[Stuck in Dumpland]

Interesting end to season in 1st division with loadsa big games y'day. Mayfield won the league and havin seen em a few times this year they were deserved winners. Went to the corinthians carrigaline game y'day and cors were deserved winners. Carrigaline were in the prem a couple of seasons ago so a big fall from grace for them. Rumour going around that the management team aren't flavour of the month with some of the carrig players. Think they're the same mgrs who got cors relegated a few years ago. Interesting times!

Not the same management team. Carrig's manager was up in Corinthians at the start of last season but got shafted by the older players who've been up there a few years after a few games and was sacked. All the younger players signed by him left when he did and they were haunted not to go down last season.

Carrig's management team have both managed UCC seperately and won them a number of Collingwoods, the Keane Cup and brought UCC to second in the premier a few seasons back. They're superb coaches who try to play ball, which doesn't always go down well in the MSL. From what i've seen Carrig just don't have the players.

[leftback]

Not the same management team. Carrig's manager was up in Corinthians at the start of last season but got shafted by the older players who've been up there a few years after a few games and was sacked. All the younger players signed by him left when he did and they were haunted not to go down last season.

Carrig's management team have both managed UCC seperately and won them a number of Collingwoods, the Keane Cup and brought UCC to second in the premier a few seasons back. They're superb coaches who try to play ball, which doesn't always go down well in the MSL. From what i've seen Carrig just don't have the players.

Point taken. Having said that, I've heard from a friend who plays with Carrigaline that a number of their top players quit playing for them a number of months ago (why??) which would have been a big factor in their relegation. If the senior players in corinthians got Canice sacked a few years ago don't you think there's a trend emerging in terms of his ability to man-manage. I have no doubt that he's a good coach but having seen Billy Cronin and Fergus McDaid in action neither of them were the best coaches but they always got the best players in and their records in terms of trophies won speaks for itself...so good coach yes, but good manager is a different story.

[Stuck in Dumpland]

Point taken. Having said that, I've heard from a friend who plays with Carrigaline that a number of their top players quit playing for them a number of months ago (why??) which would have been a big factor in their relegation. If the senior players in corinthians got Canice sacked a few years ago don't you think there's a trend emerging in terms of his ability to man-manage. I have no doubt that he's a good coach but having seen Billy Cronin and Fergus McDaid in action neither of them were the best coaches but they always got the best players in and their records in terms of trophies won speaks for itself...so good coach yes, but good manager is a different story.

There have been issues with his man magement, i'd agree with that but apparently he just takes getting used to. The fact that at least 9 players walked away from Corinthians straight after he was sacked would make you wonder about the players who were complaining.

Comparing him to McDaid or Billy is a bit unfair given the players they had/have at their disposal and speaking to players who've played under them not everyone has something positive to say, then again, with reference to the three of them it was generally players who weren't first choice under them.

To me, Carrigaline just aren't good enough. They don't have the players in the club.

[leftback]

There have been issues with his man magement, i'd agree with that but apparently he just takes getting used to. The fact that at least 9 players walked away from Corinthians straight after he was sacked would make you wonder about the players who were complaining.

Comparing him to McDaid or Billy is a bit unfair given the players they had/have at their disposal and speaking to players who've played under them not everyone has something positive to say, then again, with reference to the three of them it was generally players who weren't first choice under them.

To me, Carrigaline just aren't good enough. They don't have the players in the club.

Ya i heard that a good number walked from Corinthians that time alright.

Having said that I also heard that none of them are playing Senior league anymore so it's not like they were top players. If they were, surely they would have been snapped up straight away?? Appears as if he only brought in ex-UCC players as I don't think he was able to sign any other players.

Canice has failed twice now in the senior league (except for his time with ucc).

Also. did Kevin McNamara get Corinthians relegated the season before that with a record low points tally of 5..??

[Spiderpig]

Bad news for Carrigaline to be relegated twice in cosecutive seasons - its a long way back now. It all started when their neighbours and friends Avondale made an appeal against some 18 year old who had just signed with Carrigaline. This appeal/loss of 3pts cost Carrigaline their premier status I think. C'mon Rockmount I say!!!

As for the present management at Carrigaline - they mightn't get an opportunity to get them out of the 2nd Div as I heard thet Richard Fitzgearld (Cork AUL Oscar Traynor Cup Winning Manager? + living locally) has been sounded out as to whether he's interested or not. All rumour I must add!!!

But they will come back - Facilities + Local population will ensure that they'll be back sooner rather than later. That 2nd Div is muck anyway. Should it be even called "Senior"?!!!

[Spiderpig]

MSL Prem relegation playoff
Castleview v UCC
Big game - any date set yet?
Castleview may be to streetwise for the tax dodgers :D

As it is becoming harder and harder to bounce back from the 1st div, teams are trying to do their rebuilding in the Prem. It'll be a long road back for the loser - just ask Carrigaline

[ho chi feen]

MSL Prem relegation playoff
Castleview v UCC
Big game - any date set yet?
Castleview may be to streetwise for the tax dodgers :D

As it is becoming harder and harder to bounce back from the 1st div, teams are trying to do their rebuilding in the Prem. It'll be a long road back for the loser - just ask Carrigaline

Play-off, eh?

Castelview turned UCC over flukily at home in the league, and then brilliantly in the cup a few weeks back. They've got a light enough squad, seem to only name two subs any time I've seen them.

Anyone see their 5-4 win over Hall?

[duffer31]

Play-off, eh?

Castelview turned UCC over flukily at home in the league, and then brilliantly in the cup a few weeks back. They've got a light enough squad, seem to only name two subs any time I've seen them.

Anyone see their 5-4 win over Hall?

ya . ended in major controversary. castleview put the ball in the net at 4-4 when they should have been giving it back to hall after an injury. very bad form but it secured a play off now anyway. will be on the echo id say wednesday......

[Spiderpig]

Echo gave a write up of the Castleview v Douglas Hall game last night.
All I can say is that Castleview cheated their way to a playoff.
They are a disgrace. I'd love to hear someone come on here and try to condone what they did.

A Disgrace to Cork Soccer!!! :!:

[duffer31]

echo gave a write up of the castleview v douglas hall game last night.
All i can say is that castleview cheated their way to a playoff.
They are a disgrace. I'd love to hear someone come on here and try to condone what they did.

A disgrace to cork soccer!!! :!:


dont think anyone can condone it. Anyone know how rockmount blarney went last night. Its not up on the website and i couldnt make it out there. Its between rockmount and avaondale for the league thursday night regardless of how last night went anyway.anyone?

[Up For The Ba]

Echo gave a write up of the Castleview v Douglas Hall game last night.
All I can say is that Castleview cheated their way to a playoff.
They are a disgrace. I'd love to hear someone come on here and try to condone what they did.

A Disgrace to Cork Soccer!!! :!:

I wasnt there but from what I was told by someone playing in the match, even some of the Castleview players were somewhat embarassed by this incident, whilst their line seemed to show no remorse over the situation.

[duffer31]

I wasnt there but from what I was told by someone playing in the match, even some of the Castleview players were somewhat embarassed by this incident, whilst their line seemed to show no remorse over the situation.


i think everyone was in shock and reacting different ways really. it was the player himself just took it aboard to do it. the keeper was expecting the ball and when it was put in the net there was some laughing and others just looking on and everyone then was waiting for the ref to do something but of course he could only allow the goal. douglas were enraged for a few minutes but more at the player than castleview themselves. the douglas just left it go really. it was the weirdest situation i ever saw at a match. everyone was looking around not sure what to do. it got heated then but ultimately the cheat worked. there was some genuine embarrassment and obviously the few hard shaws who thought it was a great laugh....... didnt have a clue what to make of it myself to be honest. was there grounds for the ref to disallow for unsporting behaviour and book the player. some of the douglas players were calling to be left into score to level it up.

[Stuck in Dumpland]

dont think anyone can condone it. Anyone know how rockmount blarney went last night. Its not up on the website and i couldnt make it out there. Its between rockmount and avaondale for the league thursday night regardless of how last night went anyway.anyone?

Finished 2-2. Apparently Rockmount's keeper parried a tame effort into the goal with 2 mins to go. Rockmount have to win now thursday.

[duffer31]

Finished 2-2. Apparently Rockmount's keeper parried a tame effort into the goal with 2 mins to go. Rockmount have to win now thursday.

it will be a cracker so if rockmount have to attack rather than just defend if needed.

[Stuck in Dumpland]

it will be a cracker so if rockmount have to attack rather than just defend if needed.

True. Nothing worse than a game where Rockmount only need to keep a clean sheet!

[ho chi feen]

i think everyone was in shock and reacting different ways really. it was the player himself just took it aboard to do it. the keeper was expecting the ball and when it was put in the net there was some laughing and others just looking on and everyone then was waiting for the ref to do something but of course he could only allow the goal. douglas were enraged for a few minutes but more at the player than castleview themselves. the douglas just left it go really. it was the weirdest situation i ever saw at a match. everyone was looking around not sure what to do. it got heated then but ultimately the cheat worked. there was some genuine embarrassment and obviously the few hard shaws who thought it was a great laugh....... didnt have a clue what to make of it myself to be honest. was there grounds for the ref to disallow for unsporting behaviour and book the player. some of the douglas players were calling to be left into score to level it up.

Well, we all know at the top level protocol now is that only the referee is allowed to stop play for an injury. I know we're seeing it slide back again to players 'sportingly' put the ball out of play, but I think that's a load of cock.

In fairness though, I'm assuming such changes were never effected at this level (you don't get the sort of play-acting that warranted the change for one) so it sounds like poor form alright. But it's not against the rules, so no grounds for a booking.

Hall shouldn't be shipping four goals against Castleview to be in that situation anyway.

Must have been a bit of a belter overall though, no?

[Up For The Ba]

Hall shouldn't be shipping four goals against Castleview to be in that situation anyway.

Must have been a bit of a belter overall though, no?

Hall had a few missing afaik. The most interesting thing is that they meet again tomorrow night in a cup match. Im sure if Hall were still involved in the league that they firstly wouldnt have leaked 4 goals, and secondly that incident would have caused uproar.

[duffer31]

Hall had a few missing afaik. The most interesting thing is that they meet again tomorrow night in a cup match. Im sure if Hall were still involved in the league that they firstly wouldnt have leaked 4 goals, and secondly that incident would have caused uproar.

correct on all counts. hall barley mustered an interest tbh....

[Spiderpig]

Even if Hall don't/didn't care it affects UCC and the MSL.
I hope UCC do them on sunday morning. Teams train all year and play to their best and don't deserve this type of bullsh1t - it would sicken me if my team missed out on a trophy or got relegated because of CHEATING like this.

Interestingly, Tom Tully is down to referee the playoff game after doing the 'golden goal' game last sunday.

[ho chi feen]

Even if Hall don't/didn't care it affects UCC and the MSL.
I hope UCC do them on sunday morning. Teams train all year and play to their best and don't deserve this type of bullsh1t - it would sicken me if my team missed out on a trophy or got relegated because of CHEATING like this.

Interestingly, Tom Tully is down to referee the playoff game after doing the 'golden goal' game last sunday.

I wouldn't be too hopeful... Castleview really have their tails up in the last month or so. Plus, they've got the Indian sign over UCC of late.

[Up For The Ba]

I hope UCC do them on sunday morning.

Cant say I would feel any different to you on that front.

[afeencalleddan]

0-0

Stand up for the champions!!!

[ho chi feen]

Ah fuck.

[STEVIEG]

Delighted for John Caulfield

[Up For The Ba]

Delighted Rockmount didnt win it I must say.

[afeencalleddan]

Ah fuck.Why so like?

[ho chi feen]

Why so like?

Ahra, I'd have a slight preference for the Rock.

Even if the way their crowd go on at officials is a disgrace.

Anyway, fair fucks to Avondale. Looked like they'd pissed it away but they hung in there.

[afeencalleddan]

Ahra, I'd have a slight preference for the Rock.

Even if the way their crowd go on at officials is a disgrace.

Anyway, fair fucks to Avondale. Looked like they'd pissed it away but they hung in there.Fair enough, can't argue with that. Avondale will always be my club seeing as I played schoolboys there and the buddy has played with them for most of his MSL career, not to mention Johnny C managing the club for a fair few seasons now.

[Up For The Ba]

Justice done as UCC beat Castleview.

[ho chi feen]

Justice done as UCC beat Castleview.

Heard there was a bit of controversy here too, sending off or something?

[Up For The Ba]

Heard there was a bit of controversy here too, sending off or something?

Not sure? I could ask the brother, he was at it, from what i heard though it was a deserved UCC victory..

[ho chi feen]

Not sure? I could ask the brother, he was at it, from what i heard though it was a deserved UCC victory..

Maybe someone's been winding me up. :)

[ho chi feen]

Blarney v Sporting Fingal match report.

http://extratime.ie/fixtures/detail/11714/2/

[leftback]

Anyone got a link for the Keane Cup groups?...as ever the MSL site hasn't been updated:rolleyes: