wrongaldo's carry on last night

[Edmund Blackwater]

trying to kick lads out of the game, then waving imaginary cards when one of his dives fooled the ref, not to mention being in the pocket of a journeyman all night.

A truly disgusting human being and certainly not a sportsman.

imagine if Wilson had lashed out the way wrongaldo did? Fergie would be going all guns blazing in between attending the bedside vigil in intensive care.

All the skill in the world, unfortunately he has no class to go with it.

[POL]

Disgusting individual. What is worse, the likes of decent lads like Stevieg defending him, turns my stomach to be honest

[Edmund Blackwater]

Disgusting individual. What is worse, the likes of decent lads like Stevieg defending him, turns my stomach to be honest
Stevie reminds me of Christy Hennessy. he's too nice for his own good. Lads like wrongaldo are running roughshod over his reputation.

[RonnyB]

Thundering disgrace last night he was. I'm not even going to defend him. Couple of pieces of nice skill presented openings but thats what we expect from a guy with his ability.

The sad thing is United are a poorer team without him.

[KolaKubes]

I thought he came in for some hefty treatment without getting any protection from the ref.

He's still a cunt mind.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Hefty treatment is the new name in this anaesthetised, watered down game for tackling.
he was fairly tackled 9 times out of 10. when he was fouled he got his freekicks. he got a few that weren't as well.
He's an odious prick.

[Lamps]

Didn't see it, but I think he is easily the most despicable personality in the premier league, and in a league that contains Cashley, EBJT and Drogba, thats some going.

[KolaKubes]

Hefty treatment is the new name in this anaesthetised, watered down game for tackling.
he was fairly tackled 9 times out of 10. when he was fouled he got his freekicks. he got a few that weren't as well.
He's an odious prick.

Get used to it.

I'm all for it myself, if you don't like it, shag off and follow Stade Limerique.

[MonTheHoops]

He's a rodent of the highest order - it's a shame he's so good and that he's winning so many accolades for it because he doesn't need to change his ways. To be honest I thought united would have let him go in the Summer and surely his behaviour since the start of the season will be enough for him to be sold. United are too big a club to have a guy carrying on like that - it's blatantly obvious he doesn't want to be there.

[KolaKubes]

Rooney is much the better player.

We looked much more dangerous when he came on.

[Lamps]

Rooney is much the better player.

We looked much more dangerous when he came on.

Rooney isn't half the player Ronaldo is. Almost as much of a scut in his own way though.

[corkman in dublin]

Rooney is much the better player.

We looked much more dangerous when he came on.

i tend to agree.that said his rugged good looks wont sell as many posters or jerseys in the expanding football market as the dancing chipmunk ;).

[KolaKubes]

i tend to agree.that said his rugged good looks wont sell as many posters or jerseys in the expanding football market as the dancing chipmunk ;).

Awareness, strength, power, passing ability.

Rooney beats Ronaldo in all these areas.

[corkman in dublin]

Awareness, strength, power, passing ability.

Rooney beats Ronaldo in all these areas.

i agree but he is not a marketing wet dream like the grease ball.a big factor to his crazy transfer price this summer;)

[KD Langer]

Didn't see it, but I think he is easily the most despicable personality in the premier league, and in a league that contains Cashley, EBJT and Drogba, thats some going.

joey barton will be pleased......

[KD Langer]

Rooney is much the better player.

We looked much more dangerous when he came on.

most sensible quote in this thread so far.

[MonTheHoops]

Rooney wants to be at United AND he kissed his jersey. That makes him better.

He's not a patch on Roanldo, let's be honest

[Lamps]

Awareness, strength, power, passing ability.

Rooney beats Ronaldo in all these areas.

You did the same thing with Fabregas and Anderson.

Rooney isn't next or near Ronaldo as a player. I can't stand the the greasy little scut but I'll admit that much.

[KD Langer]

Rooney wants to be at United AND he kissed his jersey. That makes him better.

He's not a patch on Roanldo, let's be honest

opinions mon. and leaving aside the badge kissing and the fact that ronaldo wants to leave, if i was forced to pick only one for my team it would be rooney.fortunately the two of them are at united so i don't have too.:)

and btw, for all the WUM out there, i hate any player waving an imaginary card. if i was the ref last night i'd have booked ronaldo for that.

[KolaKubes]

You did the same thing with Fabregas and Anderson.

Rooney isn't next or near Ronaldo as a player. I can't stand the the greasy little scut but I'll admit that much.

a) I think you'll find I've always rated Rooney much the better player.
b) Any team needs its blend of players. Ronaldo is a fantastic finisher, both feet and very good in the air. He is, however, fundamentally a peripheral player, he comes in and out of the game, he's generally on the end of moves rather than at the beginning.

The spade work in any Utd win is done by the spine players. Starting at the back with the centre halves, Rio particularly important given his unusual passing ability for a defender. Then you have to driving forces in the middle, historically Keane and Scholes, these days increasingly Carrick and Anderson/Fletcher and, at the apex of that, Rooney. Popping up anywhere from up top to tackling back around defensive mid. I suspect he's an absolute nightmare to try and pick up. He also (with the exception of the heading ability) has much of what Ronaldo has in his locker as well and plenty he doesn't.

He is, however, an ugly brute and I suspect that is the problem for you you complete gaylord. ;)

fortunately the two of them are at united so i don't have too.:)
.

Not to mention Berbatov.

[ebenezer]

I prefer Rooney. At least he has a bit of a football brain. You'll see an exquisite finish, beautiful pass etc.

With that other useless spice boy, it's all rushed - kick and run. Topped off with toepeg after toepeg.

[Coin]

I think the difference is that if Rooney got a hat-trick and Utd lost 4-3, Rooney would stomp off the field with a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp.

If Ronaldo got a hat-trick and Utd lost 4-3, Ronaldo would stroll off looking for a phone to tell his agent to raise his wage demand.

[legend76]

i think the difference is that if rooney got a hat-trick and utd lost 4-3, rooney would stomp off the field with a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp.

If ronaldo got a hat-trick and utd lost 4-3, ronaldo would stroll off looking for a phone to tell his agent to raise his wage demand.

fact

[STEVIEG]

it's blatantly obvious he doesn't want to be there.

Should have joined Madrid:):):)

[Actin The Sham]

With that other useless spice boy, it's all rushed - kick and run. Topped off with toepeg after toepeg.

He reminds me of Trevor Francis back in the day.

[Actin The Sham]

I think the difference is that if Rooney got a hat-trick and Utd lost 4-3, Rooney would stomp off the field with a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp.
If Ronaldo got a hat-trick and Utd lost 4-3, Ronaldo would stroll off looking for a phone to tell his agent to raise his wage demand.

That's not his fault, he always looks like that. And Rio looks like his face caught fire and somebody tried to put it out with a shovel. And as for Luke Chadwick: he scored once, and all the United players ran in the opposite direction to him so that they wouldn't have to kiss him. But Peter Beardsley topped them all; his girlfriend used to go everywhere with him, even to training sessions, just so that she wouldn't have to kiss him goodbye.

FACT.

[STEVIEG]

Ronaldo usually does the business on the field

people here read too much tabloids or watch too much Sky

As for United fans complaining, two words

Flourent Malouda

[ebenezer]

back in the day.

Brian Clough statue unveiled in Nottingham square today :

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5673/statue4px3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the statue of Brian Clough which was unveiled before hundreds of fans in the city centre today.

The 8ft statue, in King Street, was made possible after fans raised £60,000.

Before the unveiling, the crowds were treated to big-screen footage of Forest's two European Cup triumphs.

Clough's widow, Barbara, was at the ceremony. She said he would have been delighted - and humbled - by the honour.

"He'd be so touched, he really would," she said.

People gathered all morning in the Old Market Square, with hundreds waiting in anticipation in front of the covered statue.

A large screen showed highlights from Cloughie's career, with excerpts from televised interviews.

Before the unveiling, the legend's favourite song was played: Frank Sinatra's You Make Me Feel So Young.

Shouts of 'Cloughie, Cloughie!' and popular Reds chants filled the air as the statue was finally revealed to the crowd.

The statue was sculpted by Les Johnson at his home in Andover, Hampshire.

Forest's European Cup winners pay tribute to Brian Clough (http://www.thisisnottingham .co.uk/video.html?id=14045)

Messages from Martin O'Neill and John Robertson on the Clough statue unveiling (http://www.thisisnottingham .co.uk/video.html?id=14055)

[mightyquark]

Brian Clough statue unveiled in Nottingham square today :

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5673/statue4px3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the statue of Brian Clough which was unveiled before hundreds of fans in the city centre today.

The 8ft statue, in King Street, was made possible after fans raised £60,000.

Before the unveiling, the crowds were treated to big-screen footage of Forest's two European Cup triumphs.

Clough's widow, Barbara, was at the ceremony. She said he would have been delighted - and humbled - by the honour.

"He'd be so touched, he really would," she said.

People gathered all morning in the Old Market Square, with hundreds waiting in anticipation in front of the covered statue.

A large screen showed highlights from Cloughie's career, with excerpts from televised interviews.

Before the unveiling, the legend's favourite song was played: Frank Sinatra's You Make Me Feel So Young.

Shouts of 'Cloughie, Cloughie!' and popular Reds chants filled the air as the statue was finally revealed to the crowd.

The statue was sculpted by Les Johnson at his home in Andover, Hampshire.

Forest's European Cup winners pay tribute to Brian Clough (http://www.thisisnottingham .co.uk/video.html?id=14045)

Messages from Martin O'Neill and John Robertson on the Clough statue unveiling (http://www.thisisnottingham .co.uk/video.html?id=14055)

I suppose putting this in a Ronaldo thread is the only way of getting it attention.

[ebenezer]

I suppose putting this in a Ronaldo thread is the only way of getting it attention.

Sorry Mightyduck. I've a FLIGHT to catch. :lol!:

[The Black Knight]

Rooney isn't half the player Ronaldo is. Almost as much of a scut in his own way though.

Are you mad? Rooney is far far better than Ronaldo.

Ronaldo has got everything except a brain. Rooney has everything plus a brain.

You do the math if you have a brain.

[Philby]

I think the difference is that if Rooney got a hat-trick and Utd lost 4-3, Rooney would stomp off the field with a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp.

If Ronaldo got a hat-trick and Utd lost 4-3, Ronaldo would stroll off looking for a phone to tell his agent to raise his wage demand.

Yeah, once a red always a...oh...er. Right.

[AmadeusDC]

Awareness, strength, power, passing ability.

Rooney beats Ronaldo in all these areas.

Pace, skill, aerial ability, shooting

I make that a tie and that was just off the top of my head. Don't get me wrong they are both top notch but Ronaldo has been the far superior player over the last few years. If Rooney keeps up his current form for 18 months or so everyone will switch sides though. Ronaldo's success has come to the detriment of Rooney and it'll be vice versa if Rooney starts getting the glory. The only difference is I can't see Ronaldo accepting being out of the spotlight.......his ego couldn't take it. -AmadeusDC-

[The Black Knight]

Pace, skill, aerial ability, shooting

I make that a tie and that was just off the top of my head. Don't get me wrong they are both top notch but Ronaldo has been the far superior player over the last few years. If Rooney keeps up his current form for 18 months or so everyone will switch sides though. Ronaldo's success has come to the detriment of Rooney and it'll be vice versa if Rooney starts getting the glory. The only difference is I can't see Ronaldo accepting being out of the spotlight.......his ego couldn't take it. -AmadeusDC-

He is not as good as Rooney so he really isn't going to have a choice. He was made look better than he was the last two years because Rooney wasn't firing on all cylinders. As long as Fergie keeps playing Ronaldo the way he's playing him then Ronaldo doesn't have a chance.

[Lamps]

Some load of gimps in this thread

[AmadeusDC]

He is not as good as Rooney so he really isn't going to have a choice. He was made look better than he was the last two years because Rooney wasn't firing on all cylinders. As long as Fergie keeps playing Ronaldo the way he's playing him then Ronaldo doesn't have a chance.

TBK, we'll have to wait and see on this one. For me it is like comparing Old Trafford era RVN with Highbury era Thierry Henry. Both class but one stood out above the other based on what we saw and that was Henry. Rooney has more potential to be a truly great all round footballer than RVN but I just don't think he has reached the levels Henry and now Ronaldo have yet. -AmadeusDC-

[STEVIEG]

I prefer them both:)

[Philby]

G@yer ;-)

[STEVIEG]

who's gayer?

me or you

I prefer me even though i'm a spoiled diver you are a winking cunt etc etc etc repeat to fade

[POL]

stevieg

mood: :rolleyes:

[STEVIEG]

Hi Pol!:)

[mightyquark]

Sorry Mightyduck. I've a FLIGHT to catch. :lol!:

U crack me up everytime...if you only knew:D

[Forsberg]

I see what's happening here. Some united fans realise Ronaldo is off soon, so they're downplaying his ability and importance.

They did the same with Beckham and RVN. So predictable

[STEVIEG]

I see what's happening here. Some united fans realise Ronaldo is off soon, so they're downplaying his ability and importance.



He left last summer according to an exclusive here earlier this year

and he left before that too

United won the league in 2003 with Beckham largely on the bench in the latter stages

Sold him and bought Ronaldo for less than half of that (because of the Ronaldino situation)

Anyone who doesn't appreciate what he contributes to United now knows NOTHING of football

and it is also non-United fans guilty of this

With RVN United were becoming very predictable and sterile, as good as he was

Once he started disrupting the team, far more than the winker every did apparently, it became necessary for fergie to take action

My the end of 2007 it was clear he got it right yet again

And united are now League Champions and European Champions

Ronaldo was massively important in this

[KolaKubes]

Pace, skill, aerial ability, shooting

I make that a tie and that was just off the top of my head. Don't get me wrong they are both top notch but Ronaldo has been the far superior player over the last few years. If Rooney keeps up his current form for 18 months or so everyone will switch sides though. Ronaldo's success has come to the detriment of Rooney and it'll be vice versa if Rooney starts getting the glory. The only difference is I can't see Ronaldo accepting being out of the spotlight.......his ego couldn't take it. -AmadeusDC-

I'd question that one.

As for skill, ooooh, dunno about that now. That's a bit general. Rooney's technique is impeccable. Remember that volley of his against Newcastle? When Ronaldo scores a goal of that quality, come talk to me.

[KD Langer]

I see what's happening here. Some united fans realise Ronaldo is off soon, so they're downplaying his ability and importance.

They did the same with Beckham and RVN. So predictable

Eh no. just a dicussion on which of the two players are better.

hopefully both will be in the team for a few years to come, because BOTH are top class.

[BostonRebel]

That's not his fault, he always looks like that. And Rio looks like his face caught fire and somebody tried to put it out with a shovel. And as for Luke Chadwick: he scored once, and all the United players ran in the opposite direction to him so that they wouldn't have to kiss him. But Peter Beardsley topped them all; his girlfriend used to go everywhere with him, even to training sessions, just so that she wouldn't have to kiss him goodbye.

FACT.

:D How could you forget Caveman Tevez? Looks like the cop from "Silence of the Lambs" after his face was torn off and worn by the good doctor.
Good damn player though.

As for Wooney and Wrongaldo, again, both very good players, brilliant on their day, and both odious fuckers too in different ways. But despite the fact that United may have not won the PL/CL last year without Wrongaldo's extraordinary goal output, I know who I'd rather have in the trenches in a battle.

It ain't the greasy one.

[AmadeusDC]

I'd question that one.

As for skill, ooooh, dunno about that now. That's a bit general. Rooney's technique is impeccable. Remember that volley of his against Newcastle? When Ronaldo scores a goal of that quality, come talk to me.

Kola did you mean to embolden (is that the word?) skill instead of pace........... if you are honestly saying that they have comparable pace then I cannot agree. We can debate skill for sure and you've made a good point but Ronaldo has the type of explosive pace you rarely see in the game. I'd say it's the same reason he has such a massive leap on him -AmadeusDC-

[jimmy magee]

It's Ironic.
Dunphy sitting there on his high horse denouncing all teams bar two or three: "they're Nothing teams; he's a nothing player Bill; wait till next week, when we'll see the Real Cream of the Crop bill."


He treats the game very poorly, so does rte in general. He doesn't talk about football for football's sake. just on about the 2 or 3 'real' teams in the competition, the ronaldo, the hype--> the end product.


If C Ronaldo is the epitome of the disgusting business, then Dunphy is the voice of it.

[STEVIEG]

:D How could you forget Caveman Tevez? Looks like the cop from "Silence of the Lambs" after his face was torn off and worn by the good doctor.
Good damn player though.

.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1083231/Manchester-United-star-Carlos-Tevez-dumps-wife-footballer-obsessed-glamour-model.html

[kevinbitzz]

Brian Clough statue unveiled in Nottingham square today :

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5673/statue4px3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is the statue of Brian Clough which was unveiled before hundreds of fans in the city centre today.

The 8ft statue, in King Street, was made possible after fans raised £60,000.

Before the unveiling, the crowds were treated to big-screen footage of Forest's two European Cup triumphs.

Clough's widow, Barbara, was at the ceremony. She said he would have been delighted - and humbled - by the honour.

"He'd be so touched, he really would," she said.

People gathered all morning in the Old Market Square, with hundreds waiting in anticipation in front of the covered statue.

A large screen showed highlights from Cloughie's career, with excerpts from televised interviews.

Before the unveiling, the legend's favourite song was played: Frank Sinatra's You Make Me Feel So Young.

Shouts of 'Cloughie, Cloughie!' and popular Reds chants filled the air as the statue was finally revealed to the crowd.

The statue was sculpted by Les Johnson at his home in Andover, Hampshire.

Forest's European Cup winners pay tribute to Brian Clough (http://www.thisisnottingham .co.uk/video.html?id=14045)

Messages from Martin O'Neill and John Robertson on the Clough statue unveiling (http://www.thisisnottingham .co.uk/video.html?id=14055)


From todays Fiver


In the city of Nottingham this afternoon, thousands gathered near some shopping centre or other to witness the unveiling of a statue commemorating Brian Clough. The nine-foot cast of the former Leeds-bothering Derby and Forest genius - a man whose achievements make Alex Ferguson look about as capable as Les Reed, just - shows its subject holding his hands clasped above his head in triumph. A lifelike depiction, it has also been designed to topple off its pedestal at midnight and land face down in the gutter, Special Blend Drink spilling out of every facial aperture.

:lol!:

[Coin]

Pace, skill, aerial ability, shooting

Shooting is a stretch. Ronaldo's goals per shot ratio is not great. The fact that he hits a lot of long range speculative ones doesn't help the statistic, but he's still not a pure finisher. The number of goals he gets says more about his incredible athletic ability to get into those positions than anything else.

His heading ability has been mentioned a few times. Anyone know how many headers he scored last year?

[STEVIEG]

Shooting is a stretch. Ronaldo's goals per shot ratio is not great. The fact that he hits a lot of long range speculative ones doesn't help the statistic, but he's still not a pure finisher. The number of goals he gets says more about his incredible athletic ability to get into those positions than anything else.

His heading ability has been mentioned a few times. Anyone know how many headers he scored last year?

Not that many he was busy shooting every time he got the ball out of the box

Good point though

Lampard is another who benefits from shooting a lot, especially via deflections

as does Gerrard, who is a great striker of the ball

The fact that these guys shoot so much is one of the reasons why they score so much

Some players simply pass more (Arsenals players have often been accused of this)

[jimmy magee]

he's a dacent header of a ball. no doubt about it

[KolaKubes]

Kola did you mean to embolden (is that the word?) skill instead of pace........... if you are honestly saying that they have comparable pace then I cannot agree. We can debate skill for sure and you've made a good point but Ronaldo has the type of explosive pace you rarely see in the game. I'd say it's the same reason he has such a massive leap on him -AmadeusDC-

I wouldn't have done any emboldeninginging a year or two ago ;) but, whisper it, I think Ronaldo has lost a little bit of his explosive acceleration and Rooney wasn't exactly slow to start with. It's not injury, I think he's just bulked up a little too much.



It's Ironic.
Dunphy sitting there on his high horse denouncing all teams bar two or three: "they're Nothing teams; he's a nothing player Bill; wait till next week, when we'll see the Real Cream of the Crop bill."


He treats the game very poorly, so does rte in general. He doesn't talk about football for football's sake. just on about the 2 or 3 'real' teams in the competition, the ronaldo, the hype--> the end product.


If C Ronaldo is the epitome of the disgusting business, then Dunphy is the voice of it.

It's jokeshop stuff alright.

He was lauding Frank Lampard a few weeks ago.

They also continue to turn a blind eye to the fact that Rio Ferdinand has consistently been at the heart of defences with great records, he must be doing something right.

They're turning into two sad, embarrassing anachromisms.

This is what's in front of POL and Lamps when they can't cut the mustard any more.

[BostonRebel]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1083231/Manchester-United-star-Carlos-Tevez-dumps-wife-footballer-obsessed-glamour-model.html

:D The durty hoore...

[KolaKubes]

:D The durty hoore...

When I heard about it first, I thought that's the sort of thing that might explain his being so out of favour with Fergie.

[STEVIEG]

The guy has got it all


Skills, money, good looks, hoes:)

[duffer31]

it gets so boring. wrongaldo will be throwing hands up and diving when he plays in the over 65 craggy island cup with fr. sensini. ffs sake move on. ye hate him. we get it move on....

[duffer31]

It's Ironic.
Dunphy sitting there on his high horse denouncing all teams bar two or three: "they're Nothing teams; he's a nothing player Bill; wait till next week, when we'll see the Real Cream of the Crop bill."


He treats the game very poorly, so does rte in general. He doesn't talk about football for football's sake. just on about the 2 or 3 'real' teams in the competition, the ronaldo, the hype--> the end product.


If C Ronaldo is the epitome of the disgusting business, then Dunphy is the voice of it.


im faming this. dunphy is the only person alive i can honestly say i hate. everyone is beneath him. everyone is poor. everyone has no clue. all for the ratings. i get sick when i see him. a circus clown for the circus clowns. if he is in good form then its worse. its like watching your geandmother having sex when he is nice...

[Lee Bushwacker]

trying to kick lads out of the game, then waving imaginary cards when one of his dives fooled the ref, not to mention being in the pocket of a journeyman all night.

A truly disgusting human being and certainly not a sportsman.

imagine if Wilson had lashed out the way wrongaldo did? Fergie would be going all guns blazing in between attending the bedside vigil in intensive care.

All the skill in the world, unfortunately he has no class to go with it.

:cool:
Once an ABU always a f..king ABU! :sleeping::sleeping:

[Lee Bushwacker]

Shooting is a stretch. Ronaldo's goals per shot ratio is not great. The fact that he hits a lot of long range speculative ones doesn't help the statistic, but he's still not a pure finisher. The number of goals he gets says more about his incredible athletic ability to get into those positions than anything else.

His heading ability has been mentioned a few times. Anyone know how many headers he scored last year?

:cool:
At least one.
John Terry, Anelka, Russian Roman and the rest of the "pensioners" should remember it very well as it happened one fine evening in May in Moscow! :rolleyes:

[MonTheHoops]

Jesus the knives are really out for poor old Ronnie. Last year when there was a bit of debate about who the best player in the world was there wasn't a mention of Rooney. A few months on and an eye cast towards Madrid and now Rooney's a better player. Someone better tell FIFA.

[Lee Bushwacker]

Jesus the knives are really out for poor old Ronnie. Last year when there was a bit of debate about who the best player in the world was there wasn't a mention of Rooney. A few months on and an eye cast towards Madrid and now Rooney's a better player. Someone better tell FIFA.

:lol::lol::lol:

[MonTheHoops]

:lol::lol::lol:

You disagree Lee?

[ho chi feen]

G@yer ;-)

Says the fella with Jesper & Morten Olsen fetish!

[KD Langer]

Jesus the knives are really out for poor old Ronnie. Last year when there was a bit of debate about who the best player in the world was there wasn't a mention of Rooney. A few months on and an eye cast towards Madrid and now Rooney's a better player. Someone better tell FIFA.

i've always rated rooney as better.

[KolaKubes]

i've always rated rooney as better.

Ditto.

[ebenezer]

i've always rated rooney as better.

Ditto.

I'm with the bumslappers.

[ho chi feen]

Jesus the knives are really out for poor old Ronnie. Last year when there was a bit of debate about who the best player in the world was there wasn't a mention of Rooney. A few months on and an eye cast towards Madrid and now Rooney's a better player. Someone better tell FIFA.

Hmm.

That's one reading of it.

Long before the Madrid story, I (along with most other manyooers on here) were saying that Ronaldo deserved world footballer of the year- personally, (and I'd say that goes for others) I don't think he's the best footballer in the world; just that he's performed better than anyone else year, by some distance. He's up there alright though.

Kaka did sweet FA in the league last year, and won the award on the back of several brilliant showings in the latter stages of the CL. Personally, I think Messi deserved it. Messi's less of a shout this year, because he's spent even more time out injured, but in terms of who is the best, it's him for me. In terms of who's done the best, it's Ronaldo.

I don't know quite where I stand on the whole Rooney thing. He carried a poor United from his arrival to early 2006 in a manner every better as impressive as what Ronaldo's done since. But now (despite his recent form), he is playing catch-up with the Portuguese.

But hey, who cares? I'm just happy we have both. Hopefully that will continue, and Ronaldo's (inevitable) move to Spain will come sooner rather than later.

He ought to take a look at their two defeats to Juve, and last season's to Roma, and know that despite whatever the undoubted appeal Madrid holds for someone from his neck of the woods (as differentiated from the huge pull they exert on any player), he has a better chance of success at United. The structure just isn't there for Madrid to win the CL. He's not the cure for their problems (although would be great for the moneymen).

The only thing that worries me is that his ego is such that he's aware of all of this, and thinks he is the man to set it right. Think about it; joins United, turns them into a force again and wins the lot- Madrid; the same.

It's a tempting proposition.

But I hope he goes with his head on the matter, and not his heart.

[MonTheHoops]

The only thing that worries me is that his ego is such that he's aware of all of this, and thinks he is the man to set it right. Think about it; joins United, turns them into a force again and wins the lot- Madrid; the same.

It's a tempting proposition.

But I hope he goes with his head on the matter, and not his heart.


From his behaviour this year, it's pretty obvious Ronaldo is interested in only one thing and that's himself. I personally don't think he wants to be at United - he has decided though to play as best he can because he knows it would not be in his interests to sulk as Ferguson would call his bluff. He will go to Madrid I think as it'll all turn sour with United if he continues not to celbrate after scoring and just shows up & puts in a performance he's happy with himself. All will come to a head during the next phase of contract talks.

I also think he thinks he could be the man to revive Mardrid, and to be honest I could see him doing it, he's that good. The U turn on him on here is amusing though. At least there's a few who are being honest with themselves. Who would you have as first pick 6 months ago ho chi? Rooney or Ronaldo. Puh-lease.

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From his behaviour this year, it's pretty obvious Ronaldo is interested in only one thing and that's himself. I personally don't think he wants to be at United - he has decided though to play as best he can because he knows it would not be in his interests to sulk as Ferguson would call his bluff. He will go to Madrid I think as it'll all turn sour with United if he continues not to celbrate after scoring and just shows up & puts in a performance he's happy with himself. All will come to a head during the next phase of contract talks.

I also think he thinks he could be the man to revive Mardrid, and to be honest I could see him doing it, he's that good. The U turn on him on here is amusing though. At least there's a few who are being honest with themselves. Who would you have as first pick 6 months ago ho chi? Rooney or Ronaldo. Puh-lease.

Paragraph 1- I'm not really seeing all of that, but I don't doubt there's a part of him that wants to be in Madrid, or that he'll end up in Spain one day.

Here's a thought though- I could see his eventual destination being Barcelona as easily as Madrid.

2- Your question. Ronaldo, in both instances. There's not a huge amount in it though, then or now, but there's only one choice for me.

Put this way, as important a player as Rooney is, we don't have to alter our general style of play when he's absent. Should Ronaldo go, we'd have to. And without CQ, that in itself could be tricky. It'd be hit and miss. The money would be huge, but who knows. If he'd gone in the summer, I think we could have gone for Van der Vaart and David Silva, and still been left cash to burn. As good as that pair are (or anyone else), there's no guarantee things would work.

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Paragraph 1- I'm not really seeing all of that, but I don't doubt there's a part of him that wants to be in Madrid, or that he'll end up in Spain one day.

Here's a thought though- I could see his eventual destination being Barcelona as easily as Madrid.

2- Your question. Ronaldo, in both instances. There's not a huge amount in it though, then or now, but there's only one choice for me.

Put this way, as important a player as Rooney is, we don't have to alter our general style of play when he's absent. Should Ronaldo go, we'd have to. And without CQ, that in itself could be tricky. It'd be hit and miss. The money would be huge, but who knows. If he'd gone in the summer, I think we could have gone for Van der Vaart and David Silva, and still been left cash to burn. As good as that pair are (or anyone else), there's no guarantee things would work.

Don't know if Madrid still want Ronnie. Things are falling apart there, two losses in CL to Juve. Del Piero destroyed them and he must be 35 now. It seems that Schuster in under pressure already and if a different coach comes in maybe he won't want Ronnie. Also with the Financial Crises - Can Real still spend big ?

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Don't know if Madrid still want Ronnie. Things are falling apart there, two losses in CL to Juve. Del Piero destroyed them and he must be 35 now. It seems that Schuster in under pressure already and if a different coach comes in maybe he won't want Ronnie. Also with the Financial Crises - Can Real still spend big ?

Madrid wanting Ronny has feck all to do with Schuster though.

And yeah- signing Beckham (Madrid got a big chunk of his image rights, which wasn't the case at United) turned Madrid from loss leaders into having the highest turnover in the world. There's no reason why Ronaldo wouldn't have a similar effect. El Pais ( I think) did their sums over the summer, and reckoned that even at £80m, he'd improve their balance sheet.

There's bigger stakes that football at play here.