Government gives up cervical cancer vaccine plan

[Lamps]

What a lovely bunch. On the up side they are saving 9.7 million a year. Any women that might might die can at least be consoled that they did their patriotic duty.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1105/1225523373382.html

[jd26]

That's quite insane.

Even being completely cold-hearted about the issue of people dying, it's a programme that would pay for itself over the lifetime of the women concerned.

1p on a pint of beer would have paid for that programme :-(

[Lamps]

That's quite insane.

Even being completely cold-hearted about the issue of people dying, it's a programme that would pay for itself over the lifetime of the women concerned.

1p on a pint of beer would have paid for that programme :-(

The Greyhound racing fund got apprx 12 million this year, even in these "uncharted waters"

[elwood blues]

would having the vaccine have done away with the need for smear tests which I believe are one of the most uncomfortable tests a woman has to have done?

[jd26]

No

Smear tests would still be needed although you could make a case for making them less frequent.

The savings over the course of the plan would come from reduced medical expenses for cancer treatment and fewer premature deaths of people who could be making an economic contribution.

Although I hate talking about it in those terms because it also means people will die.

[Actin The Sham]

It's a disgrace. They could easily have recouped this by putting a one off tax of €5 on every mobile phone sold.


They could have used the surplus then to invest in broadband infrastructure.

[Arcadia]

That's quite insane.

Even being completely cold-hearted about the issue of people dying, it's a programme that would pay for itself over the lifetime of the women concerned.

1p on a pint of beer would have paid for that programme :-(

Exactly 5 cents on a pint of beer of higher cigarettes tax could have sorted out even more of their spending disasters.

Pander to the vintners as usual.

Disgraceful.

[Matlock]

would having the vaccine have done away with the need for smear tests which I believe are one of the most uncomfortable tests a woman has to have done?

The most uncomfortable part of a smear test is wondering if you can rely on the results when you get them or if they have been mixed up, incorrectly read or left in a briefcase on the fucking luas.

Jesus like...

[markinmanc]

Over here the same process has run into the sand over fears of encouraging promiscuity. Oddly enough this is despite no religious group actively opposing it, even the vaccines being delivered on school premises.

I'd imagine the people most likely to be adversely affected by this will be women who are least likely to vote.

Others will just buy the vaccine.

Is the smear test service privatised?

[oul'doll]

The most uncomfortable part of a smear test is wondering if you can rely on the results when you get them or if they have been mixed up, incorrectly read or left in a briefcase on the fucking luas.

Jesus like...


It takes 6 weeks in ireland, 6 weeks, which is a disgrace, to get the results and ya, you can't even trust them. It takes 6 DAYS in Australia to get the results.
6 days vs 6 weeks. Why, like?

[jd26]

Over here the same process has run into the sand over fears of encouraging promiscuity. Oddly enough this is despite no religious group actively opposing it, even the vaccines being delivered on school premises.

I actually reckon it should be given to ids when they're fairly young as just another of the vaccines that can prevent diseases. It negates the association of the vaccine with approval of promiscuity that you get by giving to girls just before they become sexually active.

[elwood blues]

It takes 6 weeks in ireland, 6 weeks, which is a disgrace, to get the results and ya, you can't even trust them. It takes 6 DAYS in Australia to get the results.
6 days vs 6 weeks. Why, like?

as far as I know they don't even test them in Ireland anymore,
I may be wrong but I'm sure my good lady was told that they are sent out of the country to be tested.

[shandon]

got one done last jan 2007, took 6 months to get results.. which they then told me they had fuc** up.. had to go back in .. get another.. then had to pay extra money.. cant rem how much to get the second set of results speeded up.. i think 3 wks.. i think the whole thing cost €90

and they'd be wondering like! :roll:

[jd26]

You know, the more I think about it, the more I realise that the cervical cancer vaccine is the place to save money...

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1106/politics.html

[Lamps]

You know, the more I think about it, the more I realise that the cervical cancer vaccine is the place to save money...

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1106/politics.html

patriotic duty

christ

[Shandon Bell]

It's an absolute disgrace that they are scrapping this scheme. Apparently saving women's lives is just an expense too far for this Government.

[oul'doll]

Nothing surprises me about that shower of langers anymore.

[northmallexile]

It's been modified to 'delayed' rather than 'scrapped' now, by all accounts: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/1106/breaking46.htm
As Enda Kenny points out, though, I doubt it was a coincidence that this was originally announced when all eyes were on the US elections. A good day to bury bad news, indeed.

[Mr.Mister]

Worst Goverment Ever!

Any why the fuck do people keep voting them in!!!

Hundreds will die due to this fuck up by them.

[i_didnt_do_nawtin]

It's a disgrace. They could easily have recouped this by putting a one off tax of €5 on every mobile phone sold.

They could have used the surplus then to invest in broadband infrastructure.

There's already VAT on it. WTF?

[oul'doll]

Those interested in this should listen to the Ray Darcy podcast episode where he interviews Mary Harney about this. Release date 17/11. Ray is pissed off.

[frankeechops]

Harney announces cervical cancer vaccine U-turn

Friday, January 15, 2010 - 12:32 PM

The Health Minister has announced she is reversing the decision not to roll out the cervical cancer vaccine for secondary school students.

Mary Harney said the Government was now in a position to provide the HPV vaccine for first year students after the cost of doing so was negotiated down from €16m to just €3m.

Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/ireland/harney-announces-cervical-cancer-vaccine-u-turn-442060.html#ixzz0cgU kbSnf

[ProfessorPwn]

Good news.

[i_didnt_do_nawtin]

16m down to 3m. looks like the medical companies were taking the piss.

fair play harney!

[Haro]

The fact that they were even considering this is crazy given the people in the Brian Lenihan thread pulling ther "economy doesn't matter over a human life" line. Good to see they have some fucking sense for once.

But this goes to show you - just because there are cut backs, doesn't mean they're the right ones.

[irishmonkey]

thats a hell of a saving fair fucks.
hope they can pull off deals like that more often.
credit where credits due
well done harney- or who ever made the deal