You've just lost control of immigration policy...

[starchaser]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1022/immigration.html

"EU envoys have agreed on a fast-track Blue Card scheme to attract high-skilled migrant workers from developing countries."

"After 18 months of working with a Blue Card in one EU state, an immigrant would be allowed to move with his family to work in another EU state, but he or she would still have to apply for a new card there within a month of arrival."

Did you catch that? I'll repeat it for you:

"After 18 months of working with a Blue Card in one EU state, an immigrant would be allowed to move with his family to work in another EU state"

So, in effect, every EU state has lost control of immigration policy to the European Union.

Nice one EU... right in the middle of credit crunch, with unemployment rising - lets fuck things up even more by importing cheap SKILLED workers from the third world, and thereby drive down the wages of skilled jobs here...

And also -next time some government minister says that they are going to "get tough" on immigration, they're talking utter bollocks.

The *only* way they can begin to control immigration from the Third World will be to withdraw from the EU. Anyone who says otherwise, is lying to you.

[jd26]

You might have missed the part where Ireland has opted out of the Schengen area, so this doesn't apply in Ireland and Ireland has not "lost control of immigration policy".

So perhaps a bit of research before posting hysterical thread titles.

This opt-out is actually really hurting the IT business in Ireland. Non-EU citizens working for Irish companies cannot go on business trips to other EU member states because they don't have the required work permits. This restriction is seriously compromising our ability to attract companies involved in the consulting and business services side of the IT industry.

[Actin The Sham]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1022/immigration.html

"EU envoys have agreed on a fast-track Blue Card scheme to attract high-skilled migrant workers from developing countries."

"After 18 months of working with a Blue Card in one EU state, an immigrant would be allowed to move with his family to work in another EU state, but he or she would still have to apply for a new card there within a month of arrival."

Did you catch that? I'll repeat it for you:

"After 18 months of working with a Blue Card in one EU state, an immigrant would be allowed to move with his family to work in another EU state"

So, in effect, every EU state has lost control of immigration policy to the European Union.

Nice one EU... right in the middle of credit crunch, with unemployment rising - lets fuck things up even more by importing cheap SKILLED workers from the third world, and thereby drive down the wages of skilled jobs here...

And also -next time some government minister says that they are going to "get tough" on immigration, they're talking utter bollocks.

The *only* way they can begin to control immigration from the Third World will be to withdraw from the EU. Anyone who says otherwise, is lying to you.


You are talking completely through your hole. Firstly because of the common travel area between Ireland and the UK, we have opted out of the Shengen agreement, (which I disagree with by the way.)

Secondly, if we were to withdraw from the EU we would now be like Iceland, or Norway, with high interest rates, a worthless currency, and high inflation.


Methinks you are the one "talking utter bollocks."


:rolleyes:

[Proinsias]

You might have missed the part where Ireland has opted out of the Schengen area, so this doesn't apply in Ireland and Ireland has not "lost control of immigration policy".

So perhaps a bit of research before posting hysterical thread titles.

This opt-out is actually really hurting the IT business in Ireland. Non-EU citizens working for Irish companies cannot go on business trips to other EU member states because they don't have the required work permits. This restriction is seriously compromising our ability to attract companies involved in the consulting and business services side of the IT industry.

Not to mention the hassle associated with visiting friends and family, especially in the UK. Had an Indian friend in Germany who had travelled a decent amount in the Schengen area but couldn't go visit his family in Britain as he had to get a number of travel visa documents sorted which required a number of visits to the UK embassy in Cologne.

It was ludicrous.

[Actin The Sham]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1022/immigration.html

"EU envoys have agreed on a fast-track Blue Card scheme to attract high-skilled migrant workers from developing countries."

"After 18 months of working with a Blue Card in one EU state, an immigrant would be allowed to move with his family to work in another EU state, but he or she would still have to apply for a new card there within a month of arrival."

Did you catch that? I'll repeat it for you:

"After 18 months of working with a Blue Card in one EU state, an immigrant would be allowed to move with his family to work in another EU state"

So, in effect, every EU state has lost control of immigration policy to the European Union.

Nice one EU... right in the middle of credit crunch, with unemployment rising - lets fuck things up even more by importing cheap SKILLED workers from the third world, and thereby drive down the wages of skilled jobs here...

And also -next time some government minister says that they are going to "get tough" on immigration, they're talking utter bollocks.

The *only* way they can begin to control immigration from the Third World will be to withdraw from the EU. Anyone who says otherwise, is lying to you.


Here is the full story:

EU 'Blue Card' to attract skilled migrants
Wednesday, 22 October 2008 11:13
EU envoys have agreed on a fast-track Blue Card scheme to attract high-skilled migrant workers from developing countries.

The Blue Card aims to make the EU more competitive in a battle with the US and other ageing Western societies for coveted technology workers and hospital staff from the developing world.

High-skilled foreign workers make up 1.7% of migrant workers in the EU, compared with 9.9% of migrants to Australia, 7.3% to Canada and 3.2% to the US.

Analysts say the scheme will not be enough to lure top-end staff and compete with the US Green Card because it offers access to only one EU state at a time, not free mobility within the European single market.

After 18 months of working with a Blue Card in one EU state, an immigrant would be allowed to move with his family to work in another EU state, but he or she would still have to apply for a new card there within a month of arrival.

This provision was required by countries such as Germany, determined to maintain national sovereignty over their labour market.



*****


Never let the facts get in the way of an anti-EU rant eh?

[ho chi feen]

Ah, I love a good non-story.

[i_didnt_do_nawtin]

This opt-out is actually really hurting the IT business in Ireland. Non-EU citizens working for Irish companies cannot go on business trips to other EU member states because they don't have the required work permits. This restriction is seriously compromising our ability to attract companies involved in the consulting and business services side of the IT industry.

Video conferencing?

[jd26]

It can work between offices, but it's not much good for things like training and sales. Also clients tend to like to see people in person.

[starchaser]

Here is the full story:

EU 'Blue Card' to attract skilled migrants
Wednesday, 22 October 2008 11:13
EU envoys have agreed on a fast-track Blue Card scheme to attract high-skilled migrant workers from developing countries.

The Blue Card aims to make the EU more competitive in a battle with the US and other ageing Western societies for coveted technology workers and hospital staff from the developing world.

High-skilled foreign workers make up 1.7% of migrant workers in the EU, compared with 9.9% of migrants to Australia, 7.3% to Canada and 3.2% to the US.

Analysts say the scheme will not be enough to lure top-end staff and compete with the US Green Card because it offers access to only one EU state at a time, not free mobility within the European single market.

After 18 months of working with a Blue Card in one EU state, an immigrant would be allowed to move with his family to work in another EU state, but he or she would still have to apply for a new card there within a month of arrival.

This provision was required by countries such as Germany, determined to maintain national sovereignty over their labour market.



*****


Never let the facts get in the way of an anti-EU rant eh?

re read it again.

you are only choosing to read what you WANT to read.

your cut and paste job is accurate... trouble is you are so pig ignorant that you decide to be a EU Commission lackey.


and what country are you loyal to by the way?

[ho chi feen]

re read it again.

you are only choosing to read what you WANT to read.

your cut and paste job is accurate... trouble is you are so pig ignorant that you decide to be a EU Commission lackey.


and what country are you loyal to by the way?

Man, July 2005 really CHANGED you, didn't it? I can remember you being a lefty of the foaming-mouth sort before then.... :cool:

[markinmanc]

re read it again.

you are only choosing to read what you WANT to read.

your cut and paste job is accurate... trouble is you are so pig ignorant that you decide to be a EU Commission lackey.


and what country are you loyal to by the way?

The intorduction of these rules have led to a reduction in jobs availiable for nonEU workers.

[ho chi feen]

The world's gonna ennnnnd man! They're taking our country!

[markinmanc]

The world's gonna ennnnnd man! They're taking our country!

They took ar jawbs!!!!

[ho chi feen]

They took ar jawbs!!!!

Not mine, I'm a social parasite!

[Matlock]

re read it again.

you are only choosing to read what you WANT to read.

your cut and paste job is accurate... trouble is you are so pig ignorant that you decide to be a EU Commission lackey.


and what country are you loyal to by the way?

Can you see that your original point was bollix?

Im just wondering about your level of delusion is all...

[markinmanc]

Can you see that your original point was bollix?

Im just wondering about your level of delusion is all...

I suspect starchaser is loyal to Good Ole Uncle Sam, not the 3.165 green fields of Ireland.