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Arcadia
02-09-2008, 09:09 AM
Orangemen hail new order in South

McGARRY, Religious Affairs CorrespondentORANGEM EN IN the Republic have drawn attention to a growing confidence among members in a society where Protestant numbers grew by almost 20 per cent between 2002 and 2006 and which could “no longer . . . be described as a priest-ridden, poverty-stricken State”.

The observations are made in the Dublin and Wicklow Loyal Orange Lodge 1313 newsletter for summer 2008 and on www.orangenet.org

Attributing the start of this new confidence to a meeting with President McAleese on July 12th, 1998, an article states: “This meeting was the first ever between a President of the Irish Republic and members of the Loyal Orange Institution of Ireland.”

It was “something we in Dublin and Wicklow are very proud of. Since that initial step we in the Dublin and Wicklow District of the Loyal Orange institution have gained a new confidence in ourselves.”

The newsletter notes that recent census figures had shown that “Protestantism is growing in Ireland . . . In 2002, the combined Protestant population (of the Republic) stood at 180,975. In 2006, the figure now stands at 213,753! That’s a percentage change of nearly 20 per cent. And it brings the Protestant population up to 5 per cent! . . . Protestantism is growing in Ireland, and it will continue to grow.”

On the Republic, it points out that “Much has changed. The special place of the Roman Catholic Church in the Constitution has gone. Social life has changed too. No longer can the Irish Republic be described as ‘a priest-ridden, poverty-stricken State’.”
Another article states: “The recent moves by the Irish Government to promote a greater understanding of all Irishmen and women who gave their lives in the two world wars is welcome.

“As a member of the Dublin and Wicklow Lodge I also welcome the opening of the new Boyne Heritage centre . . .

“The recent granting of financial aid to Orange Lodges in the Border areas is also a sign that the State here is starting to move forward.”

It continues: “The next step that is long overdue would be to invite Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II to the Republic of Ireland and for the Republic to rejoin the commonwealth.”

Welcoming moves by the Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland to promote the Orange tradition, especially that of Ulster Scots, the writer says: “But I think the Anglo-Irish (tradition) needs to be promoted as well. It is this tradition that many Orange brethren and potential brethren in Southern Ireland are drawn from.”

© 2008 The Irish Times

The cheek !!!

Redshirter
02-09-2008, 10:38 AM
They were spot on when they said that Southern ireland could no longer be described as a priest - ridden prverty - stricken state

exactiv
02-09-2008, 10:40 AM
It continues: “The next step that is long overdue would be to invite Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II to the Republic of Ireland and for the Republic to rejoin the commonwealth.”

They're a funny bunch. Ha ha ha...

Corcaigh32
03-09-2008, 01:30 AM
They're a funny bunch. Ha ha ha...

Bet it will still happen though - all the west Brits and neo-unionists particularly in D4 will be pushing for it to happen soon enough and watch the O'Reilly Rags start to push the argument for it to happen in the opinion columns soon as well.

POL
03-09-2008, 11:31 AM
Re-joining the Union is the only option to counter this European Fascist state that is being shoved back our throats in the form of the Lisbon treaty. Great Britian has always been Irelands friend

Red Star Hardkore
03-09-2008, 11:41 AM
You are taking the piss yeah?
Internment (http://www.experiencefestiv al.com/a/Internment_-_Northern_Ireland/id/1509519)
Bloody Sunday (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/jan2001/inq-j31.shtml)

We don't need to Union with Britian. What we need is to set up a socialist government that works for all the people of the country and not just the rich nobs in Dublin.

Arcadia
03-09-2008, 11:53 AM
You are taking the piss yeah?
Internment (http://www.experiencefestiv al.com/a/Internment_-_Northern_Ireland/id/1509519)
Bloody Sunday (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/jan2001/inq-j31.shtml)

We don't need to Union with Britian. What we need is to set up a socialist government that works for all the people of the country and not just the rich nobs in Dublin.

No one is seriously proposing a union with Britain

I think Sinn Fein proposed same at the last few elections......and were rejected at the polls.

Socialism :rolleyes:

POL
03-09-2008, 12:23 PM
What is the problem with re-joining the Union? apart from some misplaced form of misty eyed nationalism, the only time Ireland was united, was under British rule

Arcadia
03-09-2008, 12:28 PM
What is the problem with re-joining the Union? apart from some misplaced form of misty eyed nationalism, the only time Ireland was united, was under British rule

They don't want us - never mind the 6 counties which costs them a fortune.

Go for it though - best of luck.

POL
03-09-2008, 12:30 PM
The Empire could be great again if Ireland rejoined, fuck Europe, what have they ever done for us?

Red Star Hardkore
03-09-2008, 12:48 PM
Ah now this is definately a piss take.

Actin The Sham
03-09-2008, 12:56 PM
Re-joining the Union is the only option to counter this European Fascist state that is being shoved back our throats in the form of the Lisbon treaty. Great Britian has always been Irelands friend

Poor, too many hooks, you're losing your touch old bean.


:sad:

Arcadia
03-09-2008, 12:56 PM
Ah now this is definately a piss take.

Now your getting it at last.

POL
03-09-2008, 01:01 PM
Yes to Europe, but no to fellow Irish and Britishmen, FFS!!! The benefits of a United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland far out weight anything Europe has to offer, what has Europe ever done for us? Robbed all out fish and filled in a few potholes in West Cork in return, thats what. Rejoin the commonwealth at least

NO TO FOREIGN RULE
NO TO FASCISM
NO TO LEGALISATION OF DRUGS

Actin The Sham
03-09-2008, 01:07 PM
Yes to Europe, but no to fellow Irish and Britishmen, FFS!!! The benefits of a United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland far out weight anything Europe has to offer, what has Europe ever done for us? Robbed all out fish and filled in a few potholes in West Cork in return, thats what. Rejoin the commonwealth at least

NO TO FOREIGN RULE
NO TO FASCISM
NO TO LEGALISATION OF DRUGS


You forgot "NO TO ABORTION."



Where is this "West Cork?"

Padraig O' Lunasa, what a guy.


:)

Actin The Sham
03-09-2008, 01:10 PM
Sorry.

I should have said Paudraig O'Leprosy.

Five years later and still wumtastic!

Fair play POL.

:grin:

RizzlaRebel
03-09-2008, 04:53 PM
The Empire could be great again if Ireland rejoined, fuck Europe, what have they ever done for us?

The european women are so much nicer!!

Oh the empire could be great alright instead of "the sun never sets on the british empire" it could become "the sun nver shines on the british empire"!

The Banker
03-09-2008, 05:46 PM
Sure we buy Premiership jerseys by the tonne and wear them with pride all round our City.
We may as well rejoin the Union.

VzN
03-09-2008, 05:46 PM
There is no way we can go back to the way it was. Britain has no right in Ireland, never had any right in Ireland and never can have any right in Ireland.

ubernerd
03-09-2008, 08:21 PM
Serious Deja Vu on this one.

Corcaigh32
04-09-2008, 01:03 AM
POL - I presume you're winding people up?

POL
04-09-2008, 09:02 AM
Absolutely not, speaking as a Unionist, I find it appalling that the men of violence like Collins etc tried to force a large percentage of the population of this island into an illegal state through terrorism and murder.

Arcadia
04-09-2008, 09:18 AM
Absolutely not, speaking as a Unionist, I find it appalling that the men of violence like Collins etc tried to force a large percentage of the population of this island into an illegal state through terrorism and murder.



Go POL keep it up.

Coachford / Dripsey LOL has its Grandmaster off the leash....watch out :roll:

wiggy82
09-10-2008, 12:14 PM
Spot on POL and think of the benefits of sterling! make things so much easier when we travel to Liverpool, London and Manchester too support out clubs!

buds
09-10-2008, 12:47 PM
orange order.....racist scum

POL
09-10-2008, 01:02 PM
orange order.....racist scumabsolute rubbish

http://www.ulster.ac.uk/news/images/africas-orange-order.jpg