200m World Record

[Up For The Ba]

Will Bolt take this aswell? I always thought Johnsons time would be untouchable to be honest, that is until I saw this guy running...

[Eoin]

Its possible alright. Would be great to see a double gold/world record in the sprinting. Although it would also be a shame to see Johnsons record go. He was fantastic that year.

[Up For The Ba]

Its possible alright. Would be great to see a double gold/world record in the sprinting. Although it would also be a shame to see Johnsons record go. He was fantastic that year.

I agree. I still think Johnsons time might be outside of even this guys grasp yet, 19.32 is ridiculous, its Bolts record for the 100 beaten twice in a row! Think I remember it being said at the time he ran the second hundred in 8.92 or something like that.

[Eoin]

I agree. I still think Johnsons time might be outside of even this guys grasp yet, 19.32 is ridiculous, its Bolts record for the 100 beaten twice in a row! Think I remember it being said at the time he ran the second hundred in 8.92 or something like that.

Yeah, it was phenomenal alright.

[Philby]

Betfair says no..Odds of 2.62 available on it being broken during these games versus 1.4 if you think it will stand.

[Up For The Ba]

Betfair says no..Odds of 2.62 available on it being broken during these games versus 1.4 if you think it will stand.

Funnily enough I was looking at those odds a while ago, thought I saw 3.2 for it to be broken?

[Philby]

Maybe some Jamaican yardie lashed out all his re-up dough on the bolt to do it since you last looked?

[Up For The Ba]

Maybe some Jamaican yardie lashed out all his re-up dough on the bolt to do it since you last looked?

:D No, just double checked again, 3.25? Not bad odds.

[Philby]

Am I missing something? Just checked it there and it's def not 3.25 - has just lengthened slightly to 2.7.

[Up For The Ba]

Am I missing something? Just checked it there and it's def not 3.25 - has just lengthened slightly to 2.7.

It was 3.25 a while ago, unless it was a mistake. Its showing at 2.8 now.

[Forsberg]

No chance in this olympics . Maybe in the future but he's not quite there yet imo

I xan see him running 19.57ish this time out though , the slowcoach.

[legend76]

I agree. I still think Johnsons time might be outside of even this guys grasp yet, 19.32 is ridiculous, its Bolts record for the 100 beaten twice in a row! Think I remember it being said at the time he ran the second hundred in 8.92 or something like that.

WTF ????

[legend76]

WTF ????

I did a bit of research cause that seemed insane. he ran the first hundred in 10.12 and the final hundred in 9.2

[afeencalleddan]

Am I missing something? Just checked it there and it's def not 3.25 - has just lengthened slightly to 2.7.There's just a lack of liquidity in the market. Plenty of money has traded at 9/4 and higher if you check the graph. Put in a bid at 3.25 and you'll probably be matched. Jaysus man, when it comes to betting exchanges don't just take what's on the screen. Sometimes it's just a matter of putting in a bid and being patient.

[Forsberg]

WTF ????

a rolling start . It's entirely possiible

[legend76]

a rolling start . It's entirely possiible

to be honest, I hadn't completely factored that in

I did a bit of research cause that seemed insane. he ran the first hundred in 10.12 and the final hundred in 9.2


even so he didn't run the last 100M in 8.92

[Up For The Ba]

to be honest, I hadn't completely factored that in




even so he didn't run the last 100M in 8.92

Im not 100% on this but i stick to my original statement. The first 100 you have to factor in that he is starting off the blocks and going round a bend. A time of 10.40 in the first 100 isnt a crazy theory. The second 100 is going to be run flat out obviously. I`d be wiling to put money on it that he did the second 100 in under 9 seconds.

I`d say there is conflicting times posted on various sites, but here is another argument, Johnson`s record time over 100m was 10.09, if he ran the second 100 in 9.2 it means he ran the first in 10.12, 3 hundreths of a second off his personal best around a bend?

[STEVIEG]

The way he pulled up in the 100M is very suspicious


If it is drugs, it's defo not national choice in Jamaica, de herb!

Boy can he run

[Rebel Yell]

Paul Hession will take him on the last 50 :)

Seriously though, great heat by him last night...may struggle to make the final, but here's hoping for a bit of luck...he deserves it, and seems to be enjoying himself much more than any other of our track competitors at these games...

[Up For The Ba]

Paul Hession will take him on the last 50 :)

Seriously though, great heat by him last night...may struggle to make the final, but here's hoping for a bit of luck...he deserves it, and seems to be enjoying himself much more than any other of our track competitors at these games...

Fair play to him indeed. I dont think he`ll make the final though, it looked like he went all out to make the semis and in fairness thats a big achievement in itself.

[HappyMonday83]

Fair play to him indeed. I dont think he`ll make the final though, it looked like he went all out to make the semis and in fairness thats a big achievement in itself.

I don't think that he was flat out in that heat. Without a doubt he pushed himself harder than that the fellas in 2nd and 3rd, but i'd say he's got a bit more in the tank. He could break his irish record but I doubt he'll get through. His best is about 10.30 I think, i'm guessing he'll need to run near 10.10 - 10.20 to make the final.

[Forsberg]

I don't think that he was flat out in that heat. Without a doubt he pushed himself harder than that the fellas in 2nd and 3rd, but i'd say he's got a bit more in the tank. He could break his irish record but I doubt he'll get through. His best is about 10.30 I think, i'm guessing he'll need to run near 10.10 - 10.20 to make the final.

You'd be surprised. While guys like Bolt are capable of running mid 19s there's much fewer athletes around at present capable of going close to 20 secs than there was 10 years. An Irish record with about 20.25 ish could get him there I reckon. He has an easier heat as well .

[Up For The Ba]

Well, just over an hour to go, the PROC has spoken, Bolt on course for new record.

[Niall D]

what time is it on in our time? 3.20???


it starts at 10.20 there

[POL]

The pulse is starting to quicken

[duffer31]

i think bolt will break the record without even breaking a sweat. he could jog it backwards. the man is a freak. is he juiced up i wonder. he will defo win it but the rcord will be close.

[afeencalleddan]

i think bolt will break the record without even breaking a sweat.3/1 Betfair.

[POL]

is he juiced up i wonderhepped up on goofballs

[afeencalleddan]

100/30 now on Betfair. His dealer must be on Betfair laying after getting no phone call.

[legend76]

100/30 now on Betfair. His dealer must be on Betfair laying after getting no phone call.

take those odds Dan

[legend76]

take those odds Dan

well did ya ????

He just did it 19.30

[Eoin]

Outrageous!

[pudgee]

Job done.

[Forsberg]

Holy fuck

into a 1m head wind

Astonishing

[kevinbitzz]

unreal!!!!! kept it going to the end, savage....

[afeencalleddan]

well did ya ????

He just did it 19.30Nah, I don't know enough about athletics really. The price seemed too good to be true. I suppose the head wind factor is what drove the price out.

[Niall D]

holy shit?? 19.30 ....... that is ridiculous

[legend76]

Nah, I don't know enough about athletics really. It seemed too good to be true.

ah well :(


it was class the way he had his eyes on the clock, I'd say there's another record to come. he's just gonna break it bit by bit

Sergey Bubka style !!!

[POL]

goofballs

[afeencalleddan]

Looks like Spearmon was disqualified - stepped on the line on the way around the bend.

[legend76]

this was updated pretty quick !!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usain_Bolt

[Eoin]

this was updated pretty quick !!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usain_Bolt

Yeah, I went on to check his time for the 100 and it was updated already! Gas.

[Up For The Ba]

Despite me not believing he would do it i backed him yesterday at 3.25. That was awesome, good to see him going all out for once.

I know there`s gonna be lots of specultation about this guy, but i`d doubt he`s on anything, he was capable of running the 400 sub 45 sec since he was 15, he`s just a phenom, lets hope so anyway.

[Eoin]

Despite me not believing he would do it i backed him yesterday at 3.25. That was awesome, good to see him going all out for once.

I know there`s gonna be lots of specultation about this guy, but i`d doubt he`s on anything, he was capable of running the 400 sub 45 sec since he was 15, he`s just a phenom, lets hope so anyway.

Yeah, he seems to be clean. In fairness between himself and Phelps its been a phenomenal olympics. If we can manage a gold or 2 in the boxing it'll be even better!!

[Up For The Ba]

Yeah, he seems to be clean. In fairness between himself and Phelps its been a phenomenal olympics. If we can manage a gold or 2 in the boxing it'll be even better!!

Big time, fair play to both of them. Hopefully we`ll land at least 1 gold in the boxing too, we`ll all celebrate that in style at the weekend then!

[AmadeusDC]

Bolt's Irish Connection

From the BBC's website

He is the fastest man in the world at both 100 and 200 metres and a double Olympic gold medallist.

But the Jamaican sprinter Usain Bolt has relied on Irish support on his way to the top of the world.

His agent is Donegal man Ricky Simms, who hails from Milford and is a graduate of the University of Ulster at Jordanstown.

After studying Sports and Leisure Studies and then a PGCE in Physical Education in Northern Ireland, Ricky made the move into sports management.

At the beginning of 2000 he went to work with Sonia O'Sullivan's coach Kim McDonald.

"Unfortunately he died in 2001 and myself and my partner Marion Steininger took over the company after that with Duncan Gaskill.

"Usain was one of the athletes we recruited in 2003, he was just a young 16-year-old kid and he's progressed quite well," he said.

Ricky grew up with a love of athletics in County Donegal.

"I ran for Finn Valley Athletic Club. I was the captain there for many years, I guess I was a good club runner in Ireland. Got a couple of Irish vests at under-23 level and student level but no championships like this," he said.

As for his current job, he says it's a good replacement.

"It's hard work, we work long hours. But when you can't be a professional in the sport yourself, I guess this is the next best thing."

In the five years Ricky has been working with Usain Bolt he has seen him overcome injury and develop into one of the world's greatest sprinters.

"In 2002, when he was 15-years-old, he won the World Junior Championships. He raced more at 200 metres prior to this. This year he got strong enough, he's been in the gym a little bit more and he's been quite successful.

"He's a typical Jamaican, I think, very laid back, very, very laid back. In the warm up area before the 100 metres we were punching each other, rolling on the ground, he was laughing, he loves playing games. He's a young at heart kind of guy," he said.

"He's a happy guy, what you see on the track is real. When you see him serious you know that something is wrong.

"I think he takes all the credit, he's the athlete, he's the one that did it."

[Up For The Ba]

I like the last comment, he takes all the credit! :D Thats nice of him.

Talking about pointless credit, I see the poll suddenly shot up after the race, congrats to the bandwagoneers involved.

[duffer31]

he still had another gear for me but he is well juiced up id say. it may not be on the banned list but tis in his veins. phelps as well. heard he is murder for roids and young wans.

[Up For The Ba]

he still had another gear for me .

Dunno, he seemed to go all out on this one, it was a much harder record to break.

[Lamps]

The man is on drugs, its pretty obvious.

[Up For The Ba]

The man is on drugs, its pretty obvious.

Welcome back.

[Lamps]

Welcome back.

Thanks.

I think its pretty obvious this guy is hepped up to the eyeballs on goofballs.

[Up For The Ba]

Thanks.

I think its pretty obvious this guy is hepped up to the eyeballs on goofballs.

Time will tell, I wouldnt think so though.

[POL]

juiced up, just look at his eyes, reminds me of Johnson in 88

[hiawatha]

Thanks.

I think its pretty obvious this guy is hepped up to the eyeballs on goofballs.

I doubt it.

[Lamps]

juiced up, just look at his eyes, reminds me of Johnson in 88

I'd concur with that. Some of us aren't fooled

[POL]

The dopers are always two years ahead of the testers

[hiawatha]

The dopers are always two years ahead of the testers

True enough. I'd be more concerned that proven drug cheats like Blonska are allowed to compete (even if it looks like she's been caught again) than the likes of Bolt and Phelps. I think both of their achievements are more down to physiology than anything else. Nobody with a stride as long as Bolt has previously had the coordination or technique that he has. Phelps is about as perfect a physical specimen for swimming as could be designed.

[Lamps]

Nobody with a stride as long as Bolt has previously had the coordination or technique that he has.

What about Carl Lewis?

And he was also a drug cheat

[POL]

As they saying goes, if it looks too good to be true, it usually is, I look forward to being proven right in 2 years time

[Proinsias]

Is Bailey the only 100 metre sprinter not caught for drugs stuff since, erm, hang on, who was before Carl Lewis, Allan Wells in 1980.

Greene wasn't technically caught but he was "buying them for someone else"




So if Bolt is clean, well, it would almost be a bit weird!

[hiawatha]

What about Carl Lewis?

And he was also a drug cheat

He was nowhere near as tall as Bolt

[Lamps]

He was nowhere near as tall as Bolt

similar build, long stride etc etc.

was also on drugs

[Niall D]

Is Bailey the only 100 metre sprinter not caught for drugs stuff since, erm, hang on, who was before Carl Lewis, Allan Wells in 1980.



tyson gay certainly is not

[Lamps]

Is Bailey the only 100 metre sprinter not caught for drugs stuff since, erm, hang on, who was before Carl Lewis, Allan Wells in 1980.

Greene wasn't technically caught but he was "buying them for someone else"




So if Bolt is clean, well, it would almost be a bit weird!

correct.

Drugs are rampant at that level and in that event.

Are we supposed to believe that this guy is not only clean, but head and shoulders better than all the other lads who were taking stuff, and so good that he can afford to pull up 10 metres to go.

Not buying it

[Up For The Ba]

correct.

Drugs are rampant at that level and in that event.

Are we supposed to believe that this guy is not only clean, but head and shoulders better than all the other lads who were taking stuff, and so good that he can afford to pull up 10 metres to go.

Not buying it

He is a freak though, no matter what way you look at it. As I said earlier, in this thread I think, he was capable of running a sub 45 second 400m at 15. His height would usually be a disadvantage in this sport, but with him its not, his co-ordination and balance for his size is freakish, no drug is gonna do that for him.

[Proinsias]

tyson gay certainly is not

He's not an olympic gold medalist neither.

Which is what I was implying.

Besides, his fastest time was wind assisted.

[POL]

Whatever he is on it must be serious stuff, I mean ffs, all of a sudden Jamaican athletes bursts into the Olympics in all the events from 100m to 400m and we are supposed to swallow this bullshit? is it any wonder we are in a recession when people are willing to believe this crap!

[hiawatha]

similar build, long stride etc etc.

was also on drugs

According to the oracle that is Wikipedia, Bolt is 6' 5", Lewis is 6' 2". I doubt they had similar length stride. I could well be wrong though.

The only reason I think he's clean is because he's been consistently brilliant since he's a young fella.

[POL]

He ran the 400 in sub 45 seconds when he was 15? says who? where is the evidence?

[Lamps]

Whatever he is on it must be serious stuff, I mean ffs, all of a sudden Jamaican athletes bursts into the Olympics in all the events from 100m to 400m and we are supposed to swallow this bullshit? is it any wonder we are in a recession when people are willing to believe this crap!

Great point.

And Keane walking out on his country was the begining of this shit for me. People got a taste for believing any old cock and bull story as long as there was a bit of drama.

This Usain Bolt is no different than David Copperfield or Paul Daniels

[Proinsias]

Still though, what a finish to the 100m.

Tyson Gay reckoned that he was just toying with the other sprinters and there's another few hundreds in him.

I'd love for it to be genuine but it's highly likely that it's not.

[Proinsias]

Great point.

And Keane walking out on his country was the begining of this shit for me. People got a taste for believing any old cock and bull story as long as there was a bit of drama.

This Usain Bolt is no different than David Copperfield or Paul Daniels for me.

Well, in fairness, he did at least run faster than everyone else by a good distance, drug assisted or not, that sort of gap is incredible. Would have beaten the drugged up Carl Lewis by almost 0.2 seconds which is a long time in that sport and that's even with taking it handy by the end.

[Arcadia]

German sprinter calls Bolt a drug cheat added August 20, 2008

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-engl... German sprinter Tobias Unger called the Olympic 100m men’s final a “farce” and cast doubt on the legitimacy of superstar Usain Bolt’s win.

Unger: “Bolt didn’t even warm up for the semi final. He showed up in shorts and jogging shoes, did his pickups and practice starts, put on his spikes and then ran the 100m in 9.92 seconds.

“Bolt ran a time of 9.8 seconds in May and again at the end of September. He showed no tiredness during training,” an annoyed Unger added.

“They do whatever they want on their island. Nothing happens to them. I’m the only one here at the Olympics who is registering with the doping controllers.”

Bolt apparently didn’t even know how to fill out the doping forms. The American sprinters’ coaches actually laughed when they heard about German doping controls.

I'm with our Kraut cousins on this one.

[Up For The Ba]

He ran the 400 in sub 45 seconds when he was 15? says who? where is the evidence?

My bad, it was sub 46 at 16.

[Lamps]

Well, in fairness, he did at least run faster than everyone else by a good distance, drug assisted or not, that sort of gap is incredible. Would have beaten the drugged up Carl Lewis by almost 0.2 seconds which is a long time in that sport and that's even with taking it handy by the end.

Incredibly good drugs for me

I just can't take this sport seriously anymore, its completely tainted, and this is from a fella that was well into it one time.

[hiawatha]

Well, in fairness, he did at least run faster than everyone else by a good distance, drug assisted or not, that sort of gap is incredible. Would have beaten the drugged up Carl Lewis by almost 0.2 seconds which is a long time in that sport and that's even with taking it handy by the end.

To be fair, various technological advances in terms of training techniques, nutrition, running gear tracks and so on give each new generation an advantage over those that went before. That being said Asafa Powell still trains on a grass track.

[Lamps]

I'm with our Kraut cousins on this one.

amen to that

[STEVIEG]

Whatever he is on it must be serious stuff, I mean ffs, all of a sudden Jamaican athletes bursts into the Olympics in all the events from 100m to 400m and we are supposed to swallow this bullshit? is it any wonder we are in a recession when people are willing to believe this crap!

The Jamaicans have been good for years

but now they are competing for Jamaica

Not the U.S., canada or Britain





I already raised my suspicions earlier in the thread though

Pulling up in the 100 metres ad getting a world record says a lot to me

Hope i'm wrong

[Lamps]

The Jamaicans have been good and big into the drugs for years

but now they are competing for Jamaica

Not the U.S., canada or Britain

fixed

Merlene Ottey
Ben Johnson
Linford
Dwain Chambers

as well as several lower profile ones

[STEVIEG]

fixed

Merlene Ottey
Ben Johnson
Linford
Dwain Chambers

as well as several lower profile ones

Yup

Go back about 40 or 50 years though

Jamaica have history as sprinters



It's very suspicious though unfortunately

[Lamps]

Yup

Go back about 40 or 50 years though

Jamaica have history as sprinters



It's very suspicious though unfortunately

thats cos they are west african mainly. its genetic to a degree, but its the drugs that seperate them from the rest. its unfortunate.

This whole thing reeks of 88.

[ho chi feen]

Goofballs.

[Langer Dan]

These times are more tainted than a side of ham thats been left in the sun for three months.

This fella is about as credible as Michelle Smith winning the hundred metres on Waterford Crystal.
The truth will out....