Do arse or pool have a snowballs chance in hell at winning the prem?

[liam2me]

i reckon arse have a slight, but only slight, chance, liverpool haven't a prayer jesus they were shite today

[ho chi feen]

Arsenal have a decent chance IMHO.

They've lost two important players, replaced one (Hleb) with a better one (Nasri). They look short in bite in midfield, but if they don't get a horrible run of injuries, and Eduardo comes back in good nick, they'll do well. If they signed Veloso, I'd rate their chances as excellent.

Liverpool haven't sorted their deficiencies in attacking/wide midfield. Dossena and Degen will give them some width, and Keane will do well when they actually play him as a striker. But as a team who've stumbled upon 4-2-3-1, with little in the 3, wasting the whole summer chasing Barry (in their strongest area of the pitch) and spending a Torres fee on Keane seems baffling.

[koka noodle]

liverpool have a better chance of winning it than arsenal. i think they'll just swap 3rd and 4th position though

[kevinbitzz]

For Arsenal or Liverpool to win it will take a huge fuck up by both Chelsea and Manchester United,

Missing Mascherano at the moment is huge, he is of equal importance to the team as Torres (IMO)

The only positive that can be taken from Liverpool's performances so far is that they can't get any worse (i hope)

[warren888k]

it will all depend on injuries for arsenal and also how their small midfield stand up to the more physical teams.

they weren't that far away last year, if they could have turned only 2 or 3 of those drawn games that they should have won into actual wins they would have been right there at the end.

[liam2me]

liverpool were poxy last week and they were poxy today. not a prayer of winning the prem. will struggle to keep 4th place if they continue like this :D

[Swoosh]

neither of them will even be close

[KD Langer]

neither of them will even be close

Is correct.

[kevinbitzz]

neither of them will even be close

how close is close?


I reckon Liverpool will be 8 or 9 pts behind the eventual champions, Chelsea or Manchester United,

(i'm leaning towards Chelsea at the mo 55/45)

[Lee Bushwacker]

Liverpool have max. points without playing well. All of the top 4 teams have too much quality than the others WHEN they are 100% on form.
Very often though it's points "nicked" when you aren't 100% can be the difference between winning and losing the title. In recent times Liverpool haven't been doing this and have been playing "catch up" whereas United and Chelsea have won games when they've "had their foot off the accelerator".
Early days yet though and really we won't have any real idea until the begining of October who are going to make the running. :neutral:

[Swoosh]

how close is close?


I reckon Liverpool will be 8 or 9 pts behind the eventual champions, Chelsea or Manchester United,

(i'm leaning towards Chelsea at the mo 55/45)



Liverpool wont be within 15 points of the winners

[The Zurich Connection]

Manu are a one man team and were lucky as hell last season. Chelski are strong and Liverpool will give it a run if they start well. Arse will have a battle for fourth.

[kevinbitzz]

Liverpool wont be within 15 points of the winners

i wish you were a bookie, paddy power were only giving Liverpool a 9pt start.

[duffer31]

arsenal can but won't

liverpool just can't.

[Lee Bushwacker]

Manu are a one man team and were lucky as hell last season. Chelski are strong and Liverpool will give it a run if they start well. Arse will have a battle for fourth.

:confused:
As in all of Ferguson's 10 titles?
3 different generations of championship winning sides created and cretins
like you say we are a "one man show".
Why don't you go back to the planet you were born on ffs! :rolleyes:

[STEVIEG]

Manu are a one man team and were lucky as hell last season.

Fletcher is good but i think you are going OTT

[CORKBHOY]

Fletcher is good but i think you are going OTT

He was obviously talking about John O Shea, silly.

[Murdock]

Well, despite all their weaknesses, Liverpool do have something United and Arsenal lack - a great striker. Still can't see them winning it though. They should finish ahead of Arsenal who have a very threadbare squad. They should have got rid of Adebayor. He's over-rated, just lucky enough to be a striker in a team that creates lots of chances.
Chelsea should win the league this year. United are shite without Ronaldo and their squad is full of dross (O'Shea, Fletcher, Carrick etc.) and fellas who are past-it (Scholes and Giggs).

[KD Langer]

if liverpool win the league i'll walk down patrick street naked except for a bowler hat and sash on the 12 th of july next year.

[liam2me]

if liverpool win the league i'll walk down patrick street naked except for a bowler hat and sash on the 12 th of july next year.
it's getting close, arsenal are fucked, as per usual

[shamoverhere]

:lol!:

alright kd, how's your next few weeks shaping up?

[liam2me]

:lol!:

alright kd, how's your next few weeks shaping up?
following me about the PROC this morning.

got a good result yesterday, but 3 very tough games coming up. considering who we had in charge at the start of the season, and how long it took to get rid of him, the fact we are sitting in a Europa cup spot and not fighting for relegation is a minor miracle

[shamoverhere]

No you just happen to be the only person around and its nighttime here, plus my post was clearly directed at kd.

As for the hammers good luck to them.

[kevinbitzz]

Arsenal have a decent chance IMHO.

They've lost two important players, replaced one (Hleb) with a better one (Nasri). They look short in bite in midfield, but if they don't get a horrible run of injuries, and Eduardo comes back in good nick, they'll do well. If they signed Veloso, I'd rate their chances as excellent.

Liverpool haven't sorted their deficiencies in attacking/wide midfield. Dossena and Degen will give them some width, and Keane will do well when they actually play him as a striker. But as a team who've stumbled upon 4-2-3-1, with little in the 3, wasting the whole summer chasing Barry (in their strongest area of the pitch) and spending a Torres fee on Keane seems baffling.

heh heh heh....

On the Balll!!!!!!!!!

[liam2me]

No you just happen to be the only person around and its nighttime here, plus my post was clearly directed at kd.

As for the hammers good luck to them.

my bad, thought you were spelling kId and had missed the 'I', as happened with the 'A' quite a bit on the laptop I was using last night

[Hurlywurly]

in response to the thread title.
Liverpool do.
The Arse, unfortuantely, don't.

[ho chi feen]

heh heh heh....

On the Balll!!!!!!!!!

Don't be taking my Keane comment out of context, as you can see from the bottom of the post and dozens of others from that time I thought it was a stupid signing, compounded by the fact that Rafa decided he could play anywhere along the front-line. He can't. You'll also see I said Degen wasn't up to much (he hasn't even played, but he's decidedly average- at best). Drossena I'll give you.

2 out of three, not bad. :D

[kevinbitzz]

Don't be taking my Keane comment out of context, as you can see from the bottom of the post and dozens of others from that time I thought it was a stupid signing, compounded by the fact that Rafa decided he could play anywhere along the front-line. He can't. You'll also see I said Degen wasn't up to much (he hasn't even played, but he's decidedly average- at best). Drossena I'll give you.

2 out of three, not bad. :D

i bloody well will if i want to........

0 out of 3 is bad........:cool:

[liam2me]

bump,

I think the answer will be no, yet again

[Eoin]

Liverpool do, arsenal don't.

[CORKBHOY]

Neither do.

[ho chi feen]

Wouldn't write either off.

[Hulk Hogan]

I'll need to see how Arsenal's young Hulkamaniacs deal with the pressure of being top of the card, jack! the first few weeks will be telling, dude!

(Grunts)

(Rips shirt)

(bids for Fabian Delph in Football Manager 2009)

[jdckelly]

arsenal no liverpool i thought they should have been favs until alonso sale now it all depends on torres staying fit because if hes out for any extended period of time they are screwed

[liam2me]

for me, arse will be lucky to get 4th spot, pool will be 3rd

[CORKBHOY]

Wouldn't write either off.

Too late, I already have.

[ho chi feen]

Too late, I already have.

Only top 4 team I'd write off in terms of winning it is Chelski. Arsenal are a long shot, but they came from nowhere two years back to mount a serious challenge... I have a similar feeling about them this season.

United are weaker than last season, remains to see how they rejig. Liverpool (assuming Aquilani settles and does well) are only as good as they were last season. Chelsea are getting stale. Arsenal still lack bite but won't miss Adebayor and might not miss Toure either if Vermaelen does well.

I wouldn't want to call it anyway.

[Captain Planet]

Liverpool will win it. 20 years on. They love these anniversary things. Mark my words.




*Eerie feeling of deja vu*

[shamoverhere]

It'll take some gumption to stop Utd from 4 on the trot. Having said that I think it could prove to be the most open race in a while with more than two involved late in the game.
Liverpool will win though of course. 20 years and all that jazz...

[GE1212Y]

Arsenal will win the title.....

I can feel it in my bones....

[delzer]

dont think liverpool wont be as good as they were last season imo think chelsea will battle it out with man u arsenal depending on injuries and any signings before the end of the window could sneak 3rd

[kevinbitzz]

Chelsea and Manchester both approx 2/1, Liverpool approx 3/1, Arsenal approx 8/1


Yes, Liverpool have a chance this year,

[ho chi feen]

dont think liverpool wont be as good as they were last season imo think chelsea will battle it out with man u arsenal depending on injuries and any signings before the end of the window could sneak 3rd

Whatever about whether or not they'll be as good as last season, they're highly unlikely to take a full 12 points off United and Chelsea again. That was a once in a decade bonus which they spunked by failing to beat dross.

Obviously, it's a big plus in their column that they've finally shaken off their inferiority complex in league games against that pair, so they'll have no fear against them this season. But they don't seem to have added the finesse to be sure of breaking down stubborn defensive opponents.

Likewise, United can't rely on Ronaldo's brilliance to dig them out of a hole on days where nothing's coming off.

Will be an interesting one.

[jimmy magee]

Re: Liverpool

Listen up you deluded Bird Brains: Liverpool spent 2/3 of last season poxing and grinding results, with drivelly power-hOof ball nonsense. It was disgusting on the eye and they played by far the shitest football of the top 4.

Everybody seems to have forgotten this though, and have been whipped into a hysteria in light of Liverpool's strong finish to the season, starting around the time of the Real Madrid mauling.

So in summary, Liverpool FC are cock rot of a side, i'd be very surprised if they come up with any type of goods this season. They have two top notch performers and tha'ts it.

PS Aquilani is nothing special,
PPS Benitez is a cunt



Re: Arsenal -- always have a chance because when on form their passing, shape and speed is second to none.

[Sound]

Re: Liverpool

Listen up you deluded Bird Brains: Liverpool spent 2/3 of last season poxing and grinding results, with drivelly power-hOof ball nonsense. It was disgusting on the eye and they played by far the shitest football of the top 4.

Everybody seems to have forgotten this though, and have been whipped into a hysteria in light of Liverpool's strong finish to the season, starting around the time of the Real Madrid mauling.

So in summary, Liverpool FC are cock rot of a side, i'd be very surprised if they come up with any type of goods this season. They have two top notch performers and tha'ts it.

PS Aquilani is nothing special,
PPS Benitez is a cunt



Re: Arsenal -- always have a chance because when on form their passing, shape and speed is second to none.

Seriously Jimmy, let Istanbul go. If Liverpool played like 1970 Brazil you'd still give them no credit. You've become a one trick pony.

[Shabby]

They're looking good already! 4-0 up against Everton at Goodison. Goodison is a hrd place to go, not to mind go there and score 4 goals!! And there's still 20 minutes left...

[Shabby]

5-0! Fabregas is playing a blinder!

[ho chi feen]

Like I said... watch out for the gooners in the outside lane.

[Forsberg]

Like I said... watch out for the gooners in the outside lane.

This game is meaningless in asssessing Arsenal. Every team in the league would have beaten this spineless Everton team today.

Arsenal may end up being champions material but today could be very misleading as well.

[ho chi feen]

Didn't see it, sounds from the reports that they were wretched alright.

[wat_boy]

Re: Liverpool

Listen up you deluded Bird Brains: Liverpool spent 2/3 of last season poxing and grinding results, with drivelly power-hOof ball nonsense. It was disgusting on the eye and they played by far the shitest football of the top 4.

Everybody seems to have forgotten this though, and have been whipped into a hysteria in light of Liverpool's strong finish to the season, starting around the time of the Real Madrid mauling.

So in summary, Liverpool FC are cock rot of a side, i'd be very surprised if they come up with any type of goods this season. They have two top notch performers and tha'ts it.

PS Aquilani is nothing special,
PPS Benitez is a cunt



Re: Arsenal -- always have a chance because when on form their passing, shape and speed is second to none.

God you're a boring cunt

[Closer80]

Starting a thread about who's going to win the premiership based on day 1 results:


Not very bright.

[CORKBHOY]

Starting a thread about who's going to win the premiership based on day 1 results:


Not very bright.

So have Bolton a chance of winning the league?

[ho chi feen]

This game is meaningless in asssessing Arsenal. Every team in the league would have beaten this spineless Everton team today.

Arsenal may end up being champions material but today could be very misleading as well.

Fuck me, that fifth goal was shocking. Fabregas strolled (literally... he barely broke a sweat) 50-60 yards through the centre of the pitch, no challenge. Fallaini hared after him and then mysteriously stopped as he was about to catch him... everyone else just looked on. Awful.

[liam2me]

Starting a thread about who's going to win the premiership based on day 1 results:


Not very bright.
lol, check the start date of the thread, spastic

[ho chi feen]

Starting a thread about who's going to win the premiership based on day 1 results:


Not very bright.

Oh dear.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

Oh dear!!!

[Aphex]

http://forum.football365.co m/images/smiley_icons/post-5758-1225601204.gif

[DogTheLangerHunter]

I wouldn't take too much from the Everton game for either side. Arsenal have always been Everton's bogey team.

[KolaKubes]

Everyone please note that Arsenal may have improved as a side without fucking away £100m on new players.

How can this happen?!?!

And surely the three times champions will now collapse with the loss of the man that singlehandedly won those titles?

Noone can possibly step into the breach. The team shape can't possibly be as good without Ron standing around with his hands on his hips pouting like a pantomine dame when Utd's attacks break down.

[CORKBHOY]

I wouldn't take too much from the Everton game for either side. Arsenal have always been Everton's bogey team.

I don't buy into this bogey team bullshit.

I needn't elaborate.

[ho chi feen]

I don't buy into this bogey team bullshit.

I needn't elaborate.

Been whipping them senseless more often than not for the best part of 18 years now?>

[CORKBHOY]

Been whipping them senseless more often than not for the best part of 18 years now?>

That's not bogey, that's a better team winning, consistently.

[liam2me]

whatever about todays result, i'm not a happy camper, i had 3 everton players in my fantasy team.

[marco 2005]

whatever about todays result, i'm not a happy camper, i had 3 everton players in my fantasy team.

ya fool

[Closer80]

lol, check the start date of the thread, spastic

That's funny, i thought you were a nurse, keep it a little more PC hunpop.

Your reply to "not very bright" is to call someone a spastic? When you're still wrong:

Yeah i looked at the post date. Tell me Liam, what date did the premiership start last year???

DURRRR....

Anyway, yes.

Good.

[liam2me]

That's funny, i thought you were a nurse, keep it a little more PC hunpop.

Your reply to "not very bright" is to call someone a spastic? When you're still wrong:

Yeah i looked at the post date. Tell me Liam, what date did the premiership start last year???

DURRRR....

Anyway, yes.

Good.
someone's rattled to fuck

[Closer80]

someone's rattled to fuck

Lad i couldn't give two shits. I just thought i'd point out yer epic self pwn and laugh in yer face. Enjoy being an arsehole.

[liam2me]

Lad i couldn't give two shits. I just thought i'd point out yer epic self pwn and laugh in yer face. Enjoy being an arsehole.
http://www.entrepremusings. com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/babytip-rattle.jpg

[jimmy magee]

Seriously Jimmy, let Istanbul go. If Liverpool played like 1970 Brazil you'd still give them no credit. You've become a one trick pony.

The end of season was given the credit it was due. The rubbish on offer before then was pointed out.

Riera, N'gog, Lucas, Aquilani, Babel, come off the fucking stage.

[Closer80]

Rattle image (it was too big to quote, scale yer images willya ya fool?

Good to see 2me emulating his heroes, LD and Daithi.

[Sound]

The end of season was given the credit it was due. The rubbish on offer before then was pointed out.

Riera, N'gog, Lucas, Aquilani, Babel, come off the fucking stage.

You should have enough on your plate with the mess at Milan to bother with Liverpool.

[STEVIEG]

You should have enough on your plate with the mess at Milan to bother with Liverpool.

heh heh heh

good pawnership

[liam2me]

Good to see 2me emulating his heroes, LD and Daithi.
http://www.entrepremusings. com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/babytip-rattle.jpg

[daithi81]

Starting a thread about who's going to win the premiership based on day 1 results:


Not very bright.

So, were you stoned/drunk/both when you wrote this?

I'd say stoned. You haven't used the word 'cunt' yet.

:lol!:

[liam2me]

if liverpool can't beat spurs then they've no chance

[Berbs]

if liverpool can't beat spurs then they've no chance
Only lost 2 games last season and still didn't win it, not a good day for them.

I predicted Arsenal 3rd, Liverpool 4th, City and Tottenham 5th and 6th before the weekend. Think I'll stick with that.

[ho chi feen]

if liverpool can't beat spurs then they've no chance
Liverpool losing to Spurs and Arsenal humping Everton are hardly what you'd call upsets though.

[Closer80]

So, were you stoned/drunk/both when you wrote this?

I'd say stoned. You haven't used the word 'cunt' yet.

:lol!:

Durrrr

Someone still doesn't get it. Look at the date if you have to, if you can, yknow, understand calendars...

[kevinbitzz]

Liverpool losing to Spurs and Arsenal humping Everton are hardly what you'd call upsets though.

Oi!, less of that "voice of reason" malarkey....

[liam2me]

Durrrr

Someone still doesn't get it. Look at the date if you have to, if you can, yknow, understand calendars...
jaysus the rattlement is strong

[daithi81]

Durrrr

Someone still doesn't get it. Look at the date if you have to, if you can, yknow, understand calendars...

Yeah, I did. Eleven O'Clock on a Saturday night. Therefore, a very good chance you were drugged up to the eyeballs.

:lol!:

[daithi81]

jaysus the rattlement is strong

I have had this dog on a string for months now.

[liam2me]

I have had this dog on a string for months now.
doesn't explain his rattled attitude towards me

[daithi81]

doesn't explain his rattled attitude towards me

Probably some form of residual rattlement.

[ho chi feen]

Oi!, less of that "voice of reason" malarkey....

Sorry, er... okay.

"Maybe next year Kidneystonepool hahahaha loz!"

Better? ;)

[liam2me]

bump, yet another year

[ho chi feen]

Liverpool none; Arsenal, again, possibly.

A more interesting question might be their chances of finishing top 4 (slim and nailed-on respectively for me).

[liam2me]

Liverpool none; Arsenal, again, possibly.

A more interesting question might be their chances of finishing top 4 (slim and nailed-on respectively for me).
sure liverpool only got into the europa league by default

[ho chi feen]

sure liverpool only got into the europa league by default

They will probably get in there by default again with the mess that Villa are in, Everton's lack of signings, etc.

[liam2me]

they're not good enough to do it on merit anyway, and their fans think they are one of the top teams in Europe :rolleyes:

[jd26]

If I was considering the chances of various teams winning the Premiership this year, I'd say

Utd 40%
Chelsea 40%
Arsenal 20%

Nobody else with a shot, despite City's big spending.

Liverpool are half a squad short of challenging.

Arsenal's main problem is an iffy keeper.