Ireland to bid for RWC

[liam2me]

The International Rugby Board has confirmed that 10 unions have formally expressed an intention to host the Rugby World Cup in 2015 or 2019.

Australia, England, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Scotland, South Africa and Wales have confirmed their interest in the 2015 tournament.

Australia, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Russia, Scotland, South Africa and Wales are keen on hosting in 2019.

The 2011 Rugby World Cup will take place in New Zealand.

"This is tremendous news for Rugby World Cup," IRB Chairman, Bernard Lapasset, said.

"The fact that 10 member unions have signalled their intention to tender for the 2015 and 2019 tournaments reflects the growing global prestige of the Rugby World Cup.

"The IRB Council will announce the RWC 2015 and 2019 host unions in July 2009, six years prior to the first tournament and 10 years prior to the 2019 event," added Lapasset.

"This timetable reflects the scale and nature of the preparatory work in delivering this world class tournament."

[Riordan]

Are 3 Venues enough, The New Thomond and Landsdown, along with Croke Park?

[liam2me]

Are 3 Venues enough, The New Thomond and Landsdown, along with Croke Park?
probably a joint venture with scotland and or wales. would be able to do it if the GAA decided to stop being so backward, but hell will freeze over before that would happen

[cit_gym_rat]

probably a joint venture with scotland and or wales. would be able to do it if the GAA decided to stop being so backward, but hell will freeze over before that would happen
what is backward about using keeping the stadiums they built for their own use

and you all know im not a gaa head

[raZor]

Let's not start this again but the stadium isn't funded 100% with the GAA's money so if it's the taxpayers let the taxpayers use it.

Anyways we don't need the RWC we had it in 91 and 99, get rid of this Old Boys Club shite and give it to Japan.

[liam2me]

what is backward about using keeping the stadiums they built for their own use

and you all know im not a gaa head
taxpayers paying for the stadia, huge money to be made by the GAA by renting it out, allowing the world see what amazing facilities the GAA has, refusing to open the stadia against these reasons, for fear that they will lose players, is backwards

[delzer]

taxpayers paying for the stadia, huge money to be made by the GAA by renting it out, allowing the world see what amazing facilities the GAA has, refusing to open the stadia against these reasons, for fear that they will lose players, is backwards

havent they been renting out for the last 2 years.

in fairness i think if their is money to be made i think the gaa would allow croke park to be used for the rugby world cup.

but its their stadium and taxpayers money did subsidize some of it but the rugby and soccer crowd got tax money as well its not the gaa fault that they didnt build a new stadium years ago.

also the gaa may have got more money than the soccer or rugby but quite rightly its our national sport.

if ireland did get the rwc i would be delighted as it would bring money in to our economy and im sure croke park would be made available for it as well

[liam2me]

yeah but it's not just croke, thurles, the gealic grounds, clones and all the other bigger stadia. mutual co-operation would be the way forward, not this current distrust the GAA has of everything

[Tube a Pringles]

Developing countries will get both 2015 and 2019. The IRB now realise they fucked up big time not giving the 2011 to Japan.

[Rebelred]

but its their stadium and taxpayers money did subsidize some of it but the rugby and soccer crowd got tax money as well its not the gaa fault that they didnt build a new stadium years ago.


end of thread.

[Corcaigh32]

If the GAA allow Croke Park to be included as a venue for the IRFU's bid to host the RWC it will be the second biggest mistake they have made.

Tax payers money me boll*x.

[RonnyB]

taxpayers paying for the stadia, huge money to be made by the GAA by renting it out, allowing the world see what amazing facilities the GAA has, refusing to open the stadia against these reasons, for fear that they will lose players, is backwards

The IRFU should be thankful its got the use of Croke Park for the time it has never mind looking to 2015 or 2019. If it opened Croke Park the IRFU could then ask for Semple Stadium to be used as well & where would it stop?

[liam2me]

If the GAA allow Croke Park to be included as a venue for the IRFU's bid to host the RWC it will be the second biggest mistake they have made.

Tax payers money me boll*x.



The IRFU should be thankful its got the use of Croke Park for the time it has never mind looking to 2015 or 2019. If it opened Croke Park the IRFU could then ask for Semple Stadium to be used as well & where would it stop?

why should it stop? co-operation to further irish sport on the international stage, whats wrong with that? it's only backward frank murphy ringlickers that can't see the benefits

[Corcaigh32]

why should it stop? co-operation to further irish sport on the international stage, whats wrong with that? it's only backward frank murphy ringlickers that can't see the benefits

Ah Liam, there's no need to get personal. I can see the benefits to rugby, I can see the benefits to soccer, but there are certainly no benefits to hurling or football but the thing is we won't see the effects of opening Croke Park on the GAA for about another 20 years. If you can play any sport in Croke Park then why play a sport where you don't get paid.

Look at the numbers of kids with a Guilbert rugby ball out on the green as opposed to a hurley and see where Cork will get its All Irelands from in 20 years time.

[Corcaigh32]

mmmmmmmmm Frank Murphy's ring mmmmmmmmmm ;)

[Lee Bushwacker]

Are 3 Venues enough, The New Thomond and Landsdown, along with Croke Park?

:cool:
They could renovate Ravenhill and make it a totally Irish affair! :smile:

[Lee Bushwacker]

If the GAA allow Croke Park to be included as a venue for the IRFU's bid to host the RWC it will be the second biggest mistake they have made.

Tax payers money me boll*x.

:cool:
If the loot came from Lottery funds then it is taxpayer's money.
By the way what has been their biggest mistake so far?
Removing "the ban" perhaps! :rolleyes:

[Corcaigh32]

:cool:
If the loot came from Lottery funds then it is taxpayer's money.
By the way what has been their biggest mistake so far?
Removing "the ban" perhaps! :rolleyes:

No - opening Croke Park in the first place.

[liam2me]

Ah Liam, there's no need to get personal. I can see the benefits to rugby, I can see the benefits to soccer, but there are certainly no benefits to hurling or football but the thing is we won't see the effects of opening Croke Park on the GAA for about another 20 years. If you can play any sport in Croke Park then why play a sport where you don't get paid.

Look at the numbers of kids with a Guilbert rugby ball out on the green as opposed to a hurley and see where Cork will get its All Irelands from in 20 years time.

so you don't see the financial gain through renting it out? you don't see the economical benefit (france made something like stg£400m last year). as for players leaving the GAA, do you think that could be down to the fact that the GAA has stagnated, and munster has been successful? do you think that maybe the GAA modernising, paying it's players could be the answer? do you not think that the GAA is being left behind by the other codes, something that is solely the GAA's fault, nothing to do with allowing others to use croke park? do you really think that young johnny gives a fuck if it's lansdowne or croker that he's dreaming of playing at?

so to be honest, there are no actual negatives for the GAA to opening their stadia, it's simply backwardness

[Proinsias]

Developing countries will get both 2015 and 2019. The IRB now realise they fucked up big time not giving the 2011 to Japan.

I suspect it'll be england next. The IRB need the payday as I reckon they're going to make close to sweet fuck all profit out of the NZ world cup. They should never have gotten it, it was a sickenly craven decision, especially after NZ's behaviour with the 2003 world cup.

[RonnyB]

why should it stop? co-operation to further irish sport on the international stage, whats wrong with that? it's only backward frank murphy ringlickers that can't see the benefits

Put it this way Liam the RWC is held around October time every 4 years. You're hoping in an ideal world that Semple, an improved Pairc & so-on be used to hold games. The club season in the GAA is still very much in action & county finals are held in these type of venues all over the country.

I'd put it to you this way. I'd hate to have to play a county final with my club in a club ground without the stands etc so that Butch James & Matt Giteau can kick the ball back & forth into touch.

The IRFU & rugby supporters in general should be looking at each of the 4 provinces having their own grounds that could be used in such circumstances on a world stage than hope & pray that Paraic Duffy & Co. decide to opn up GAA stadia to fill the already bulging coffers.

Lastly you harp on about tax payers money. How much is it again that the government are putting towards Lansdowne Road? I'd imagine Thomand Park isnt without funding either. Keep ye're on house in order before having a go at the GAA.

[Arcadia]

Ah Liam, there's no need to get personal. I can see the benefits to rugby, I can see the benefits to soccer, but there are certainly no benefits to hurling or football but the thing is we won't see the effects of opening Croke Park on the GAA for about another 20 years. If you can play any sport in Croke Park then why play a sport where you don't get paid.

Look at the numbers of kids with a Guilbert rugby ball out on the green as opposed to a hurley and see where Cork will get its All Irelands from in 20 years time.

Kids play the games they want to play and Munsters success on the international stage has been very positive for sport in Ireland and not in competition with the GAA championship which is a summer sport competition anyway.

G.A.A. is really in competition with Aussie rules for football players and any player who wants to be a professional sportsman I say best of luck to him.

Irish people love their sports and follow whatever is in season and are very knowledgable about all sports - setting up "either or" arguments is way out of date.

[BangorFeen]

Kids play the games they want to play and Munsters success on the international stage has been very positive for sport in Ireland and not in competition with the GAA championship which is a summer sport competition anyway.

G.A.A. is really in competition with Aussie rules for football players and any player who wants to be a professional sportsman I say best of luck to him.

Irish people love their sports and follow whatever is in season and are very knowledgable about all sports - setting up "either or" arguments is way out of date.
Weeeell, yes and no. You're correct that currently Aussie Rules is the main threat but it's not as if the GAA hasn't lost promising players to rugby. Shane Horgan, Tomás O'Leary, Luke Fitzgerald and Stephen Kelly are just four inter-county standard players that I can think of off the bat. Going forward though and with Michael Shields' example there for many to see, rugby might be considered a "safer" bet in terms of a shot at professional sportsmanship.

[Arcadia]

Weeeell, yes and no. You're correct that currently Aussie Rules is the main threat but it's not as if the GAA hasn't lost promising players to rugby. Shane Horgan, Tomás O'Leary, Luke Fitzgerald and Stephen Kelly are just four inter-county standard players that I can think of off the bat. Going forward though and with Michael Shields' example there for many to see, rugby might be considered a "safer" bet in terms of a shot at professional sportsmanship.

Gaelic football is muck right now and some counties who actually bother its all over in a heartbeat with the back-door system benifitting the stronger counties who get an extra game and come back stronger - Cork have to beat Kerry twice to get their hands on an All-Irelandand,only a few counties are up to standard in Hurling for the championship - another few exciting games this year but the 2 "K"'s will win out again this year unless Waherferd / Wexford etc come up to challenge.

Kids I know play what they love and anyone who wants to be a professional sportsperson should get all the encouragement available on this tiny island.

Witness our dismal Olympics performance thus far - Munster's success at European level and Padraig Harrington are flying the flag right now for kids to aspire to.

Success breeds success.