Cork v Dublin

[mushypea]

Heard today that Sean Og is DEFINITELY out for next saturday.

Sully probably won't be starting..........

Dublin played a full strength Limerick team during the weak and beat them by 5 points.......

It'll be no walk in the park ( no pun intended)

[megatron]

Heard today that Sean Og is DEFINITELY out for next saturday.

Sully probably won't be starting..........

Dublin played a full strength Limerick team during the weak and beat them by 5 points.......

It'll be no walk in the park ( no pun intended)


why wont sully start?

[mushypea]

why wont sully start?

cant really say why......

[megatron]

cant really say why......

stop the wumming

[mushypea]

im not wuming !

[megatron]

im not wuming !

well he trained quite well this morning so unless u can tell the future its a wum

[Loftydog]

Era id say cork will still take them handy enough. Only for the ref being completely inept in the league game cork would have hammered them. And this was remember corks first game since coming back from the strike. As it was they won handy in the end.

[megatron]

Era id say cork will still take them handy enough. Only for the ref being completely inept in the league game cork would have hammered them. And this was remember corks first game since coming back from the strike. As it was they won handy in the end.

to be fair we didnt win well in the end we got a lucky goal in the last minute, but we should have enough in the tank to get over the dubs with or without sean og, if we win id love a craic off waterford shut that little pest up

[wunhunglo]

why wont sully start?


He's not able to bend down to tie his boots.

[megatron]

He's not able to bend down to tie his boots.


one bad game against tipp and now ye turn on him, fairplay.

[Ringy]

Straight swap with Cadegon coming in for Sean Og, apart from that I would expect 1-9 to be the same. The forwards will be pot luck knowing this management.

[megatron]

Straight swap with Cadegon coming in for Sean Og, apart from that I would expect 1-9 to be the same. The forwards will be pot luck knowing this management.

cadogan or mcgann id say if sean og is unavailable,if we had a good corner back id move shane o neill half back, i think the forward line will be
ben o connor,pa cronin,timmy mac,
cathal naughton,pa horgan,joe deane,

cathal to go roaming again

[Rebelred]

cadogan or mcgann id say if sean og is unavailable,if we had a good corner back id move shane o neill half back, i think the forward line will be
ben o connor,pa cronin,timmy mac,
cathal naughton,pa horgan,joe deane,

cathal to go roaming again

If he roams and the Dubs follow him, it'll be interesting to see what his impact is this time. Pa Cronin at centre? How is Niall Mac shaping up, still out of favour?

[megatron]

If he roams and the Dubs follow him, it'll be interesting to see what his impact is this time. Pa Cronin at centre? How is Niall Mac shaping up, still out of favour?


to be honest his form was poor in training before the tipp match but this morning he showed he can still do it, if niall is hurling well the team hurls well so hopefully he'll gain back his form, id use pa in the centre against the dubs, see how it goes, i think he be better than canty in the centre

[mushypea]

Pa is starting again on saturday ???

surely not

[megatron]

Pa is starting again on saturday ???

surely not

stop wumming will ya gettin a bit annoying

[bugsy]

Naughton Timmy Ben

Paudie Ronan Deane

Timmy did well at 11 against mcgrath last year and there arent many alternatives. Would like to see a 3 man full forward line, especially against the dubs, 6 goals in the last 2 games against them.

[mushypea]

is the match on at 5 ??

[Rebelred]

is the match on at 5 ??

ya, 5 down the pairc

[de mange]

If he roams and the Dubs follow him, it'll be interesting to see what his impact is this time. Pa Cronin at centre? How is Niall Mac shaping up, still out of favour?

cork should take this handy enough without sean og.. we destroyed them at a canter last sept in parnell park

pa cronin played very well that day at centre forward- not fully convinced by him at cf against the better teams but he will have more than enough for the dubs

i reckon naughton will have a field day as well in the roaming position

always enjoy this fixture because the media up here ignore all sense or reason and hype the dubs for the double every year, then they meet a decent team and get brought right back to where they belong and the her-dilt look stupid again :)

[Top Dog]

why wont sully start?

Because he is not good enough anybody who saw him play in the Tipperary game will tell you that

[Top Dog]

is the match on at 5 ??

Is it on TV live ?

[Rebelred]

Is it on TV live ?

not sure, football qualifiers are on next weekend aswell.

[theporge]

I'm assuming that this will be cash at the turnstyles??

[megatron]

Because he is not good enough anybody who saw him play in the Tipperary game will tell you that

one bad game and he's finished? come on ffs, yes he played bad against tipp but i dont think he's finished not yet he's only 29, give the man a break

[megatron]

Is it on TV live ?

no there showing Limerick vs Offaly at 7pm next saturday evening on RTE 2

[Rebelred]

no there showing Limerick vs Offaly at 7pm next saturday evening on RTE 2

should guarantee that a few more people will go to it

[Poc Fada]

If Cork are to have any designs on Liam this year they will have to destroy the Dubs like KK took Wexford apart yesterday. I think its reasonable to be concerned about Sully as he's short a yard on pace but I'd be worried what taking him out might do too. They'll have to start blooding new full backs in the next season or two anyway.

I hope Cork put on a good show and put to bed any (silly IMO) fears that they've "lost it" that the media seem to be only too willing to follow. KK will be hard to stop and looking at the likes of Cha Fitzpatrick yesterday their hunger is as great as ever.

[mushypea]

show me a man the size of sully with pace !!!!! he doesnt exist

[Rebelred]

is the team being announced tonight?

I'd go with:

Cusack,
Murphy, Sully, O'Neill
Gaa, Curran, Cadogan
Tom n Gerry
Ben, ???, Timmy
Naughton, Fraggie, Deano


I've big worries bout no.11. If Niall Mac is fit and right, then he has to start. Canty wasn't up to it v Tipp but I wonder will the selectors try him again. N Pa Cronin still has something to offer, just not at 14. Corry too is an option we saw against Tipp but who didn't have much time to impress.

Paudie to come on with 20 left and take advantage of tiring limbs.

[scrumpy]

i hope dublin beat cork. i have no time whatsoever for GPA Donal and the rest of the gach aon liathroid crew

[megatron]

i hope dublin beat cork. i have no time whatsoever for GPA Donal and the rest of the gach aon liathroid crew

hi frank

[scrumpy]

hi frank

cracker. like sean og you must speak to my agent before i do any stuff. Gach Aon Liathroid is mahith liom caca milis etc

[Maidhcí Boy]

cracker. like sean og you must speak to my agent before i do any stuff. Gach Aon Liathroid is mahith liom caca milis etc

Tóg do cáca milis agus sáig suas do thóin é!

[diar2me]

It's hard to see how it could be true but can anyone confirm or otherwise that Sully has lost 2 stone since the Tipp game? First step on his road back to fitness I hear. Would not believe it whatsoever only that the source is so reliable.

[Coin]

It's hard to see how it could be true but can anyone confirm or otherwise that Sully has lost 2 stone since the Tipp game? First step on his road back to fitness I hear. Would not believe it whatsoever only that the source is so reliable.
That'd be about 8 pounds a week. He'll easily win weight watcher of the year at that rate. Or keel over from starvation.

[diar2me]

That'd be about 8 pounds a week. He'll easily win weight watcher of the year at that rate. Or keel over from starvation.

Exactly like hence me not believing it and asking because the source has obviously got less reliable. He needs to lose it tho!

[Ringy]

Confirmed Cork team to face Dublin on Saturday:

Cusack
O'Neill Sully Murphy
Cadegan Gardiner McGann
J O'Connor Kenny
B O' Connor Niall Mac Timmy
Naughton Ronan Deane

[megatron]

Confirmed Cork team to face Dublin on Saturday:

Cusack
O'Neill Sully Murphy
Cadegan Gardiner McGann
J O'Connor Kenny
B O' Connor Niall Mac Timmy
Naughton Ronan Deane

No Curran or Sean Og?

thats surely not the team?

[Loftydog]

It's hard to see how it could be true but can anyone confirm or otherwise that Sully has lost 2 stone since the Tipp game? First step on his road back to fitness I hear. Would not believe it whatsoever only that the source is so reliable.

Did he get worms or something?

[corkoniense]

No Curran or Sean Og?

thats surely not the team?

curran and sean og are hurt no? curran's groin is in bits apparently. Delighted ronan is at full forward, until we get a target man a la corcoran or setanta, he's definitely our best option. great eye for goal and a great touch. very light full forward line all the same. have to play in a lot of low ball, none of the mindless hail mary stuff that we have come to expect under the new mgmt

[megatron]

curran and sean og are hurt no? curran's groin is in bits apparently. Delighted ronan is at full forward, until we get a target man a la corcoran or setanta, he's definitely our best option. great eye for goal and a great touch. very light full forward line all the same. have to play in a lot of low ball, none of the mindless hail mary stuff that we have come to expect under the new mgmt

i thought they be fit for this match, still dont think thats the team though, if it is the team fairplay to neil ronan,niall mac and joe deane

[diar2me]

i thought they be fit for this match, still dont think thats the team though, if it is the team fairplay to neil ronan,niall mac and joe deane

I couldn't understand why Ronan wasn't brought on against Tipp so he has to be on the team if you ask me. I have been Niall Macs greatest fan over the years for his spirit alone but lets hope he can pull off a better performance than his shortlived one against Tipp. And we all know what Joe Deane can bring to the table!

[megatron]

I couldn't understand why Ronan wasn't brought on against Tipp so he has to be on the team if you ask me. I have been Niall Macs greatest fan over the years for his spirit alone but lets hope he can pull off a better performance than his shortlived one against Tipp. And we all know what Joe Deane can bring to the table!

totally agree, have a look at the subs too, Pa Cronin,Paudie Sull, Pa Horgan, Fraggie.

cork by 8 points

[Ringy]

Team is grand, and should do the business with plenty to spare. i was very impressed with McGann during the league and he 'll hold his own in the half-back line.Hopefully Niall Mac's back to his old self, if he's motoring well the rest of the forwards will also. delighted to see Ronan playing always had time for him.
I think apart from Curran and Sean Og coming back-in, this will be the team in mind for Galway or Waterford Saturday week.

[theporge]

totally agree, have a look at the subs too, Pa Cronin,Paudie Sull, Pa Horgan, Fraggie.

cork by 8 points

I would sincerely hope that we beat them by more than 8 points.. Kilkenny laid down the marker over the weekend, anything less than a hammering on Saturday simply wont be good enough IMO. After all if Wexford played the dubs I'm sure they'd have 8 points to spare. We need 70 mins of hurling akin to the second half of last Sunday's match.. I want to float back down the boggy road like I did last Sunday afternoon. We need a big performance.
Up the rebels!!

[mushypea]

any idea where the galway/waterford game will be???

[Ringy]

any idea where the galway/waterford game will be???



Id say it will a double header in thurles. Nearly suits all 4 teams.

[megatron]

Id say it will a double header in thurles. Nearly suits all 4 teams.

yup but this is fathead brennan were talkin about, so it could be home or away advantage again, its only a 4th round qualifier.

[wunhunglo]

totally agree, have a look at the subs too, Pa Cronin,Paudie Sull, Pa Horgan, Fraggie.

cork by 8 points

Three of those four subs DID NOT PERFORM AGAINST TIPP.

Anything other than a 16 pt plus win for Cork shall be deemed a failure in my book.

[down da Castle]

Venues are gonna be set by croker, so wont be home & away for this round.
Agree that Thurles makes the most sense, but since when has that made a difference!! They lost money for the leinster final (they need 40,000 to break even each game and there was only 18,500 there) so will be looking to get some of it back by having the double header at Croke Park I reckon.

yup but this is fathead brennan were talkin about, so it could be home or away advantage again, its only a 4th round qualifier.

[Rebelred]

No Curran or Sean Og?

thats surely not the team?

according to Finbarr McCarthy it is anyway. Injuries mean they're leaving the two lads on the bench. I think it's a great opportunity to blood Cadogan and McGann deserves his chance afer his fine form in the league.

[theporge]

Lads, am I the only one thinking that Saturday evenings game would have been the perfect time to blood a new goalkeeper??
I haven't been overly impressed in what I've seen of Cusack this year.. what do you think?
As a side note , I asked this earlier in the thread but is Saturdays game cash at the turnstyles

[Teknique]

they need 40,000 to break even each game and there was only 18,500 there


No chance
€1.4 million to open croker for a Sunday afternoon is just plain wummery

[Alan Smith]

Is this pay on the stile or what?

[northmallexile]

I would sincerely hope that we beat them by more than 8 points.. Kilkenny laid down the marker over the weekend, anything less than a hammering on Saturday simply wont be good enough IMO. After all if Wexford played the dubs I'm sure they'd have 8 points to spare. We need 70 mins of hurling akin to the second half of last Sunday's match.. I want to float back down the boggy road like I did last Sunday afternoon. We need a big performance.
Up the rebels!!

Umm, Wexford did play the Dubs. It went to a replay. They were haunted to get it, too.

[Rebelred]

Is this pay on the stile or what?

yep. arrive on time

[Rebelred]

Umm, Wexford did play the Dubs. It went to a replay. They were haunted to get it, too.

yeah, all this talk of winning by such a margin is irrelevant, the only priority has to be winning

[theporge]

Umm, Wexford did play the Dubs. It went to a replay. They were haunted to get it, too.

Spot on NME; my mistake

[Alan Smith]

yep. arrive on time

cant see there being a crush this time he he
same prices as the tipp game?

[Rebelred]

cant see there being a crush this time he he
same prices as the tipp game?

no idea to be honest. Given the prices we've seen this year, can't see it being anything less than 20 for terrace and 25 for stand min. But I dunno. No doubt d'echo will have prices later in the week

[megatron]

€20 for stand €12 for terrace

[Rebelred]

€20 for stand €12 for terrace

excellent!

[Redshirter]

Joe Deane is a waste of time and space on the Cork team because the only thing that he can do is take frees from in front of goal which you or me could take

btw who is the McGann who is on the team what club does he play for ?

[Rebelred]

Joe Deane is a waste of time and space on the Cork team because the only thing that he can do is take frees from in front of goal which you or me could take

btw who is the McGann who is on the team what club does he play for ?

your second comment pretty much confirms what I thought after the first one...you know nothing.

[megatron]

Joe Deane is a waste of time and space on the Cork team because the only thing that he can do is take frees from in front of goal which you or me could take

btw who is the McGann who is on the team what club does he play for ?


oh god another WUM

[Solo]

Joe Deane is a waste of time and space on the Cork team because the only thing that he can do is take frees from in front of goal which you or me could take

btw who is the McGann who is on the team what club does he play for ?

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[Rebelred]

Dublin Team:


G Maguire;
N Corcoran, K Ryan, T Brady;
S Hiney, R Fallon, J Boland;
J McCaffrey, S Lambert;
J Burke, D O'Dwyer, D Qualter;
D O'Callaghan, K Flynn, R O'Carroll.

Players to watch - McCaffrey, midfielder,only 20 but a very good hurler and a real athlete.
O'Callaghan and Ross O'Carroll in the corner forward positions are dangerous if given space, but we've two good corner backs so I expect we'll be able to limit their scoring ability

[Mr Jefferson]

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When did Cisco become Jesus?

[Alan Smith]

€20 for stand €12 for terrace

wha about studnents? :mrgreen:

[bh37]

wha about studnents? :mrgreen:With spelling like that you might get in over the turnstiles in your 12 year old brother's arms

[Solo]

Get yourself into the covered stand lad...lap of luxury...instead of a cold you'll have a sore back and two broken knees!

[theporge]

Looking forward to this game. Hope the weather is a bit better than last Sunday. Wouldn't mind not having a cold next week. The Blackrock Terrace needs outdoor heaters!

Was in the Blackrock End meself, up the back near the uncovered stand. Gotta say that I thought the atmosphere among the Cork fans was absolutely electric. Even when Nick Murphy was sent off you could still sense the optimism. 100% support behind the team.'Rebels' chants at every break in play and to coin a wrestling term the pop when Cussen's goal went in was incredible!!

[Alan Smith]

With spelling like that you might get in over the turnstiles in your 12 year old brother's arms
http://hem.hj.se/~lsj/lsj-beard.jpg
This man shaved the last time you were funny

[Rebelred]

^^^

He could almost be a Dub with that beard!

[bh37]

http://hem.hj.se/~lsj/lsj-beard.jpg
This man shaved the last time you were funnyIs that your 12 year old brother

[ph03n1x]

€20 for stand €12 for terrace

Is that €20 for the covered stand or the uncovered stand?

[megatron]

Is that €20 for the covered stand or the uncovered stand?


covered stand dont think the uncovered will be open

[diar2me]

Looking forward to this now. I presume there will be tickets on the gate ya? I don't have any tickets in advance for it but I am sure we won't encounter any bothers getting in. Anyone else going?

[Alan Smith]

Looking forward to this now. I presume there will be tickets on the gate ya? I don't have any tickets in advance for it but I am sure we won't encounter any bothers getting in. Anyone else going?

Pay on the gate.


If we do win wil the next round be at home or away?

[Ringy]

Pay on the gate.


If we do win wil the next round be at home or away?


Neutral, more than likely thurles. There would be something wrong with the summer if we didnt have a trip to thurles.

[Rebelred]

Looking forward to this now. I presume there will be tickets on the gate ya? I don't have any tickets in advance for it but I am sure we won't encounter any bothers getting in. Anyone else going?

yep def going alright. shouldn't be a problem just give yourself plenty time to get down there as traffic might be a balls on a saturday afternoon.

[Liathroidi Mor]

Its a balls its not on TV. I thought the GAA were trying to promote the games!!! Surely alot of Dubs would like to see there hurlers play a top class outfit. The 2 biggest populations in the country face each other regardless of standard would surely attract some form of audience!!!

[Rebelred]

Its a balls its not on TV. I thought the GAA were trying to promote the games!!! Surely alot of Dubs would like to see there hurlers play a top class outfit. The 2 biggest populations in the country face each other regardless of standard would surely attract some form of audience!!!

I'm glad it's not on the telly to be honest, makes the decision to go and see it even easier

[northmallexile]

I'm glad it's not on the telly to be honest, makes the decision to go and see it even easier

Annoying for those of us who live abroad, though.

[Rebelred]

Annoying for those of us who live abroad, though.

yeah but ye'll have the fourth round game next weekend hopefully.

[optimus]

any score???

[liam2me]

Cork 1-17 dubs 0-15 RES

[Youghal Exile]

Cork 1-17 dubs 0-15 RES

It looks like the end is nigh.Shocking stuff.

[optimus]

fuckin haunted

[Rebelred]

Just home now. Poor display from Cork in general, only a few players stepped up to the challenge, and it was a considerable challenge, that Dublin posed today.
Brian Murphy and Shane O'Neill were excellent in the corner back positions, really tidy and quelled the Dublin forward line for the majority of the game. Our half forward line was mediocre for long periods, Naughton got some nice points in the second half picking up passes from Deane, but Timmy struggled to stamp his mark on the game and Niall Mac played in patches.
Neil Ronan was quiet and I was surprised Fraggy or Paudie Sull didnt even get a run out.
Gardiner did well at centre back, Kenny the best midfielder on show. McGann was quiet and eventually replaced by Curran, Cadogan got a nice point and didn't do much wrong, but I thought Hartnett was more effective when introduced.
I can't see us winning next week if we play like we did today.

On Dublin, they deserve alot of credit for their performance. But for one brilliant save from Donal Og midway through the second half, they could well have gone on to win the game. Their two corner backs did well, centre back was impressive and O'Callaghan at corner forward, if he could fine tune his shooting, is a very handy player. They hit alot of wides and got caught in possession alot of the time.
Even though they lost, they will have learned alot about their ability and what they need to do to start beating the Corks of this world.

[Youghal Exile]

Neil Ronan was very poor hes been around all this time and never nailed down a starting spot.

[Ciotóg]

Poor show.

Apart from waking up briefly to score the goal, Joe Deane looked like he had been sedated.

[Rebelred]

Poor show.

Apart from waking up briefly to score the goal, Joe Deane looked like he had been sedated.

I would say that for alot of players in the team. The Dublin Keeper Maguire will have nightmares about the goal.

[afeencalleddan]

It could be worse, we could be from Limerick! :shock:

[diar2me]

I hate saying the following cause I feel like somewhat of a hypocrit but I think Gerald has alot to answer for. As much as I hate them there is no way Brian Cody would have let one of his teams go out and give such a woeful performance that we were subjected to today. With the odd exception we were terrible in every area. We looked lethargic, with no enthusiasm and little or nothing in the ideas department. What annoys me is that the players are there. They are good and are so much better than whats being displayed which is why I lay some blame with Gerald. I have always liked Neil Ronan and in previous years he has been invaluable as an impact sub but he was diabolical today as was Joe Deane. Our half foward line is non-existent. Some of our better performances came from our backs from the likes of Gardiner and Sully did not have a bad day for Sully's recent standards. Look I hate criticising the team so much because they have bought so much joy in years recently gone by, but something has to change. I think it should start with the manager!

[Fairly Looney]

well we're not going to knee-jerk and get rid of Gerald Mc in mid-season.
If we'd lost, his position would have been questioned, definitely.

It seemed today that the team weren't up for it, like too complacent.

I thought Dublin were succwssful in disrupting us and dragged loads of players out of position. Most of the game was played with Sully out around centre back and Shane o'Neill at full back and both did good jobs.
I thought Dublin fouled an awful lot.
Did anyone notice that?

[cork*girl]

thought the team were a bit tired to be honest! when do we play winners of galway/waterford?

[Rebelred]

thought the team were a bit tired to be honest! when do we play winners of galway/waterford?

next saturday. and it's not the winners of galway/waterford, its galway or waterford.

Pot A:
Galway, Waterford

Pot B:
Cork, Offaly

draw is tomorrow evening

[Rebelred]

I thought Dublin fouled an awful lot.
Did anyone notice that?
I don't think they were particularly bad. In fact, I'd question about 3 frees Cork won in the second half as not being frees at all.

[Ringy]

thought the team were a bit tired to be honest! when do we play winners of galway/waterford?



Next saturday, where we will basically be making up the numbers, Waterford or Galway will win this pulling up, hope Im wrong but cant see any other way. No urgency about them at all alot of show-boating, shocking shooting and striking of the slaoither. They look like they dont want to be their to be honest, today was a big oppurtunity for the six forwards to stamp down their place on the team after the abysmel performance of the forwards against Tipp and none of them were able to do it against the minnows of Dublin, meaning were going to go into a game next Saturday without a settled team particularly in the forwards.
Niall mac won a bit of ball but nothing more, Timmy, Ben, Ronan, Joe and Naughton, were they even playing they were so quiet. Horagan and cronin were better than the lot of them in the little time they had when brought on.
I suspect after a winter of dicontent, our summer of hurling will be over next Saturday, bar the undaerage of course.

P.S Best of look to the minors tomorrow

[cork*girl]

Ya we're gone next week I'd say.. Hope I'm wrong though...

[Rebelred]

Next saturday, where we will basically be making up the numbers, Waterford or Galway will win this pulling up, hope Im wrong but cant see any other way. No urgency about them at all alot of show-boating, shocking shooting and striking of the slaoither. They look like they dont want to be their to be honest, today was a big oppurtunity for the six forwards to stamp down their place on the team after the abysmel performance of the forwards against Tipp and none of them were able to do it against the minnows of Dublin, meaning were going to go into a game next Saturday without a settled team particularly in the forwards.
Niall mac won a bit of ball but nothing more, Timmy, Ben, Ronan, Joe and Naughton, were they even playing they were so quiet. Horagan and cronin were better than the lot of them in the little time they had when brought on.
I suspect after a winter of dicontent, our summer of hurling will be over next Saturday, bar the undaerage of course.

P.S Best of look to the minors tomorrow

yeah here's hoping the Minors do the business tomorrow

[theporge]

Time for a rant from the porge.
I'm no longer affiliated with any club but am a supporter of Cork GAA. Was there for the capitulation against Tipp, was there for the pneumonia and the elation against Kerry last week and was there this evening as well. Truth be known was there as a teenager for the greatest match ever played : the Centenary Munster final back in '84; but now I'm showing my age.

I've never witnessed such an abject performance from a Cork hurling team in all my years following them. Lets call a spade a shovel we were lucky to win that match. The Dubs had us there for the taking but shot too many wides particularly in the second half.

Whether it's that (i) Gerald Mac doesn't have the dressing room; whether its that (ii) a lot of the players have been around the block for too long although young in years are old in Championship terms. whether its that (iii) There's too much player power and financial fringe benefits for the GPA members for them to actually give a shit anymore (now there's a can of worms...) or whether its just that (iv) we are no longer good enough, well I just dont know.

All I can say lads is that IMO that's the last winning performance by the Cork senior hurling team for 2008, it was pityful. No passion, no skill, no endeavour, no courage; all trademarks of Cork hurling teams of old that were sadly missing today.

There were a few silver linings today; I thought the debutants did all that was asked of them, Niall Mac seemed to have the hunger back, and Ronan Curran's performance coming on as a sub were positives. But unfortunately there were too many clouds today:

(i) Tactics : If any of the front 6 for Cork ever handpass or shortpass the ball to a colleague again they should be tortured; I dunno make them watch Vanilla Sky over and over again or something. Why are we not willing/capable of taking points out around the midfield/half-forward lines. Why do they feel like they have to be in splendid isolation before taking a shot at goal? If a team like Dublin can snuff out the short passing what hope have we got against The Deise or The Cats??

(ii) Hunger : Where was it this evening. Here was a team that owed its loyal supporters something after what happened against Tipp. Where was the motivation?? The only person I could here aside from Cusack during the game was Sully.

(iii) Selection : In My opinion not one of the starting fifteen today are guaranteed there place in the next round. From Cusack to Deano, from 1 to 15 not one of them!! We were playing a team that Kilkenny or Waterford or Tipp would have put to the sword by 20-25 points not a bother. But its just not there anymore

We are in mucho shito lads; everyone outside of Cork seems to think that we're done for... Where to now..

A question in closing : If we are hammered in the next round how many of the starting 15 today will hang up their inter-county boots??

Sorry for the rant; Up the rebels!!

[Fairly Looney]

A question in closing : If we are hammered in the next round how many of the starting 15 today will hang up their inter-county boots??


Deffo there next year

O'Neill
B Murphy
Curran
Cadogan
Gardiner
Naughton

Any of the rest have lost the hunger (except Sully).

[Rebelred]

Deffo there next year

O'Neill
B Murphy
Curran
Cadogan
Gardiner
Naughton

Any of the rest have lost the hunger (except Sully).

I don't think they've lost the hunger, excluding the likes of Tom Kenny and Donal Og from that list would be madness. To say those guys don't have the hunger to be there next year is just wrong.

What the team are seriously lacking is motivation and direction. Gerald just doesn't seem to be getting the best out of them. The winter of discontent hasn't helped either. To be honest, I'd be surprised if Gerald Mac stays on another year.

[diar2me]

I don't think they've lost the hunger, excluding the likes of Tom Kenny and Donal Og from that list would be madness. To say those guys don't have the hunger to be there next year is just wrong.

What the team are seriously lacking is motivation and direction. Gerald just doesn't seem to be getting the best out of them. The winter of discontent hasn't helped either. To be honest, I'd be surprised if Gerald Mac stays on another year.

That's my point exactly. He has made some awful decisions especially against Tipp and to be honest we should be getting alot more out of a nice balance between experience and youth. You have multiple All Ireland and All Star winners playing alongside some really good younger talent. Where is it going wrong. My opinion is the dressing room and that has to change! Also the fact that he does not have a settled first choice team is a joke. That's what the league is for yet we go to take on either Galway or Waterford next week with absolutely no set pattern to an already shaky forward line up. We have the talent, there is no doubt in my head that it's there. I can't understand why people cannot see where the problem really lies - The Dressing Room!

[cork*girl]

That's my point exactly. He has made some awful decisions especially against Tipp and to be honest we should be getting alot more out of a nice balance between experience and youth. You have multiple All Ireland and All Star winners playing alongside some really good younger talent. Where is it going wrong. My opinion is the dressing room and that has to change! Also the fact that he does not have a settled first choice team is a joke. That's what the league is for yet we go to take on either Galway or Waterford next week with absolutely no set pattern to an already shaky forward line up. We have the talent, there is no doubt in my head that it's there. I can't understand why people cannot see where the problem really lies - The Dressing Room!

I agree with you. It has got to change for next year.

[PatMan]

Didn't see the game today - but reading the comments of those who did, plus the media reports it's very depressing.

I can only have one positive - the expectations for next weeks Qualifier seem to match those for the footballers in the Munster final... Does lightning strike twice?

[liam2me]

whats the score with the o'conner twins? are they injured or what?

[Rebelred]

whats the score with the o'conner twins? are they injured or what?

to be honest Bens pace isnt what it was 3 years ago, a few times yesterday his man caught him after being 4 yards off him when they started. Jerry had a relatively quiet game too but don't think either of them are carrying major knocks.

[Teknique]

Trying to get into the place was a joke.....the match wasnt much better

[Redshirter]

Joe Deane is a waste of time and space on the Cork team because the only thing that he can do is take frees from in front of goal which you or me could take

btw who is the McGann who is on the team what club does he play for ?

Got to put my hand up and say that Joe Deane played his part in our win over the Dubs good job that he did as most of the other forwards were asleep for most of the game .....again well done Joe Deane

[Rebelred]

Trying to get into the place was a joke.....the match wasnt much better

I got to the turnstyle at the blackrock end/uncovered stand corner 20 minutes before throw in and there were fairly substantial queues to get in, nothing major but big enough all the same. I went to one of the inner lines and noticed that for one of the styles, there was no queue, so I just walked up and went in. A few lads in the other lines either side saw this and jumped over the barriers to get in too.
Again, a little bit of stewarding outside could have helped speed up the whole thing.

[Teknique]

I got to the turnstyle at the blackrock end/uncovered stand corner 20 minutes before throw in and there were fairly substantial queues to get in, nothing major but big enough all the same. I went to one of the inner lines and noticed that for one of the styles, there was no queue, so I just walked up and went in. A few lads in the other lines either side saw this and jumped over the barriers to get in too.
Again, a little bit of stewarding outside could have helped speed up the whole thing.

I got in at 25 past 5....

Normally go to Covered Stand/B'rock end turnstiles but there was no option for B'rock end.....I cant sit in those fuckin seats so headed to the other side.
Very slow moving and people started to get ansy around 5 past / 10 past

People started saying that the game was delayed and not to worry, asked a guard who rang into the ground and confirmed the game was delayed

Eventually when people did get to the turnstyle they started to refuse to pay full price and caused even more delays

Finally got in and asked a guy next to me what time the game started , he said 3 on the dot

I was fairly pissed off by the whole thing but in fairness there were dubs behind me who had travelled 3 + hours to get to the game

1 steward and 1 guard was all that was in attendance

I dunno were the CCB expecting a much smaller crowd or what but thats 3 games in the pair I've been to this season
The first I could barely fit into their seats, the 2nd there were hundreds of people on the pitch and the third there were hundered of people unable to get into the game on time

[Rebelred]

I got in at 25 past 3....

Normally go to Covered Stand/B'rock end turnstiles but there was no option for B'rock end.....I cant sit in those fuckin seats so headed to the other side.
Very slow moving and people started to get ansy around 5 past / 10 past

People started saying that the game was delayed and not to worry, asked a guard who rang into the ground and confirmed the game was delayed

Eventually when people did get to the turnstyle they started to refuse to pay full price and caused even more delays

Finally got in and asked a guy next to me what time the game started , he said 3 on the dot

I was fairly pissed off by the whole thing but in fairness there were dubs behind me who had travelled 3 + hours to get to the game

1 steward and 1 guard was all that was in attendance

I dunno were the CCB expecting a much smaller crowd or what but thats 3 games in the pair I've been to this season
The first I could barely fit into their seats, the 2nd there were hundreds of people on the pitch and the third there were hundered of people unable to get into the game on time
I said it after the Tipp game and I'll say it again, professional stewards are a must.
I could see fella's still streaming in about 20 minutes into the game.

[Some user]

I got in at 25 past 3....




....throw in was 5pm???

The crowd control down there is beyond a joke. Its so much better at Semple and Croke Park. The stewards are useless and theres always confusion about which turnstyle will take juvenilles etc.

[Rebelred]

Nearly slipped my mind but a big well done to our Minors yesterday who won a cracking game 19-18.
Ciaran Sheehan scored 4 points from centre forward and had a blinder apparently. Word is he's already signed up with an Aussie Rules club which would be a massive loss to Cork in either code

[Rebel Yell]

The stewarding down the Pairc was laughable on saturday...missed the first five mins even though i was queueing up for quarter to five...

However, poor game...fairly subdued feeling around the game and performance anyway...lets hope they are keeping the powder dry for Ger and the Galway lads next saturday evening...

[Johnnyc]

The Dubs could nearly have taken us if they had a bit more self belief, Cork were only doing enough to get by.

It might be the best way to go into the Galway match, nice and quiet. At least Cork have had tough outings against Tipp and the Dubs. Galway only had cannon fodder in front of them and face the age old problem of coming up against the big guns without a proper match since the league. Hopefully we'll get a double header on Saturday in Thurles which is like a home venue for us.

And yes the stewarding was a joke the other day, the CCB need to take serious look at this asap and get some professional crowd in and not some fellas from the club who want to watch the match for free.

[Teknique]

....throw in was 5pm???



Shit ...ya , had 3 on the brain for some reason.....

[Barry Scott]

And yes the stewarding was a joke the other day, the CCB need to take serious look at this asap and get some professional crowd in and not some fellas from the club who want to watch the match for free.
CCB and professional in the same sentence?

[Some user]

Does anyone know if they use hired stewards in Semple or Croker? Cork stewarding seems to lack common sense rather than a need to be professional. You shouldnt need to pay for common sense.

[bugsy]

To be honest, I'd be surprised if Gerald Mac stays on another year.

Why is there even a question? The guy didnt want the job, signed a 2 year contract which he never planned to extend and now it seems most players wouldnt even speak to him in the Rochestown Park saturday evening. Looking forward to next year already, his refusal to make changes saturday was infuriating. Pity there arent any outstanding candidates to replace him.