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northmallexile
01-06-2008, 06:47 PM
Is there an official thread already? Can't find it.
Anyway, some big results this weekend. Wexford-Meath and Derry-Donegal both sounded like thrillers. It's at times like these I wish I had access to the Sunday Game of an evening.
kevinbitzz
01-06-2008, 07:02 PM
Is there an official thread already? Can't find it.
Anyway, some big results this weekend. Wexford-Meath and Derry-Donegal both sounded like thrillers. It's at times like these I wish I had access to the Sunday Game of an evening.
did you try
http://www.rte.ie/live/
i know it says Ireland only however i watched some games on it last summer..
Annie Hall
02-06-2008, 01:23 PM
Brilliant win for Wexford yesterday against Meath. Their tenacity, grit and determination to keep trying, even when they were eleven points down, has to be greatly admired. The confidence of some of their players to shoot and score from long enough range was immense. Other so-called 'weaker' teams could take heart from their performance yesterday, and perhaps, take a leaf out of their book. It ain't over til the fat lady sings.
The negatives: the ref had a pretty brutal game. This black book craic needs to be seriously reviewed. That dirty, high elbow by (forget who he was again - can someone enlighten me) - a Meath player anyway, towards the end of the game was feckin' scandalous. Colm Coyle's whingy comments after the game were just that - whingy. Shut the fuck up and take your beating, Colm.
My heart went out to the Wicklow gang after their defeat by Laois on Saturday night. Fair play to Micko for instilling belief in the county. I was listening to his comments before the game and he was absolutely right in his questioning of the system. Wicklow are now out of the All-Ireland series and into the Tommy Murphy Cup - and they only lost by two points in the end. I think the same would have happened to Wexford had they lost against Meath yesterday. These so-called 'weaker' counties can only gain from staying in the All-Ireland series - being matched against teams the likes of Donegal, Fermanagh and Meath in the qualifiers can only stand to them in the future. A big review, folks.
Clare's win - mighty stuff; great to see them back - enough said.
I was surprised that nobody on The Sunday Game mentioned some excellent fielding in the Donegal v Derry game.
That
Is
All
Rebelred
02-06-2008, 01:47 PM
Meath blew it big time yesterday. Had one eye on the next match and Wexford took full advantage.
I have to admit though that the part of me inside that hates Meath smiled watching the sunday game last night (Sorry Heeairo) :)
Loftydog
02-06-2008, 01:54 PM
The thing was that wicklow had at least 4 outstanding goal chances in the second half. very hard then to be dumped down to the tommy murphy cup after that
Rebelred
02-06-2008, 01:56 PM
The thing was that wicklow had at least 4 outstanding goal chances in the second half. very hard then to be dumped down to the tommy murphy cup after that
yeah its an unfair system. They beat Kildare two weeks ago and are out before them. Should have scored at least 2 of those goal chances the other night, although I didn't think they were going to win, they just couldn't win any breaks off kickouts at midfield and Laois always got a score to keep them ahead.
northmallexile
02-06-2008, 02:04 PM
Is participation in the Tommy Murphy Cup determined by NFL placings, or is it just an arbitrary kind of seeding?
Youghal Exile
02-06-2008, 02:18 PM
Did anyone see the picture in the examiner of Paddy Bradley taunting his opponent?Id expect a player like him to have more class than that.
Annie Hall
03-06-2008, 10:09 AM
Is participation in the Tommy Murphy Cup determined by NFL placings, or is it just an arbitrary kind of seeding?
AFAIK it's exactly this.
Annie Hall
03-06-2008, 10:14 AM
Plus, if all teams stayed in the championship, it may alleviate another problem: that being that some counties in the opening stages of the championship sometimes have to wait 6-7 weeks for their next competitive game. If there was no Tommy Murphy Cup and all counties remained in the championship, there'd be more games to get through thus decreasing the waiting time some teams have to suffer. Methinks there is a way.
northmallexile
23-06-2008, 05:44 PM
Wexford in the Leinster Final, then. Does this mean they're swinging back towards being a Football county, I wonder?
Rebelred
23-06-2008, 05:50 PM
Wexford in the Leinster Final, then. Does this mean they're swinging back towards being a Football county, I wonder?
big work going in at underage level in hurling. Liam Griffin was adamant circa 1998 that the 96 win was merely papering over the cracks in wexford hurling, he's been proven spot on. They've reached the Leinster final but the standard in Leinster is woeful in my honest opinion. The Dubs might have a tough time against Westmeath, but they'll still win. Wexford at the moment doesn't know what kind of county it is. Handy at football, mediocre at hurling.
billymac
23-06-2008, 05:50 PM
Wexford in the Leinster Final, then. Does this mean they're swinging back towards being a Football county, I wonder?
They are focussing alot on there under age hurling and they seem to be making a bit of progress so i think wexford will be a hurling county in the foreseeable future
big work going in at underage level in hurling. Liam Griffin was adamant circa 1998 that the 96 win was merely papering over the cracks in wexford hurling, he's been proven spot on. They've reached the Leinster final but the standard in Leinster is woeful in my honest opinion. The Dubs might have a tough time against Westmeath, but they'll still win. Wexford at the moment doesn't know what kind of county it is. Handy at football, mediocre at hurling.
Yeah, they've slipped an awful lot behind Kilkenny. When was the last time they beat them, 04 I think was it?
Either way, Dublin will beat westmeath and Wexford and then go on to struggle against the big boys in the AI championship.
Leinster is gone to the dogs in both codes these days.
Annie Hall
24-06-2008, 11:24 AM
big work going in at underage level in hurling. Liam Griffin was adamant circa 1998 that the 96 win was merely papering over the cracks in wexford hurling, he's been proven spot on. They've reached the Leinster final but the standard in Leinster is woeful in my honest opinion. The Dubs might have a tough time against Westmeath, but they'll still win. Wexford at the moment doesn't know what kind of county it is. Handy at football, mediocre at hurling.
A bit like Cork then...Except the other way around...;)
Armagh seem to be on the up again
Rebelred
24-06-2008, 01:39 PM
A bit like Cork then...Except the other way around...;)
at least wexford are true gaels and give both codes a chance to flourish Annie
PatMan
24-06-2008, 03:03 PM
As long as I don't have to watch too many games of the brutal standard that Derry/Fermanagh served up on Sat evening!
Was at Croke Park yesterday for the Dublin game.
My first football match in a loooooooooong time and it confirmed everything I've been thinking about the sport for all these years. It really is a poor relation to hurling.
Both teams yesterday were woeful, missing really kickable points from frees and open play. shocking marking, poor skill levels.
I can't believe that its more popular than hurling.
Youghal Exile
30-06-2008, 12:14 PM
Was at Croke Park yesterday for the Dublin game.
My first football match in a loooooooooong time and it confirmed everything I've been thinking about the sport for all these years. It really is a poor relation to hurling.
Both teams yesterday were woeful, missing really kickable points from frees and open play. shocking marking, poor skill levels.
I can't believe that its more popular than hurling.
I thought westmeath should beaten dublin.If only they had more than 2 forwards.What did ye make of the armagh v down match?I was hoping down would take them.
billymac
30-06-2008, 12:21 PM
Was at Croke Park yesterday for the Dublin game.
My first football match in a loooooooooong time and it confirmed everything I've been thinking about the sport for all these years. It really is a poor relation to hurling.
Both teams yesterday were woeful, missing really kickable points from frees and open play. shocking marking, poor skill levels.
I can't believe that its more popular than hurling.
Unfair to compare it with hurling. Football is still a very entertaining game, fast flowing with alot of scoring. Kicking a point is far harder than people think.
Thought Armagh took some savage points yesterday, I reckon they could be a serious challenge this year
Rebelred
30-06-2008, 12:36 PM
Thought Armagh took some savage points yesterday, I reckon they could be a serious challenge this year
going about their business with little fuss. Not a bad outside bet.
Dublin are miles off an All Ireland, Wexford could trouble them the next day, full back line was shown up badly yesterday.
going about their business with little fuss. Not a bad outside bet.
Dublin are miles off an All Ireland, Wexford could trouble them the next day, full back line was shown up badly yesterday.Blown up as usual to be something they are not, Would be doing very well to make the Semi's
Unfair to compare it with hurling. Football is still a very entertaining game, fast flowing with alot of scoring. Kicking a point is far harder than people think.
I don't think its unfair to compare them, especially when football is more popular.
Agreed teh Dubs are nowhere near good enough to win an all-ireland. If Dolan had put over a few of the easy misses from frees then tehy'd have lost.
Youghal Exile
30-06-2008, 12:42 PM
Would cork be a better bet than dublin for sam?
Would cork be a better bet than dublin for sam?
tbh, I don't think anyone will beat Kerry this year.
Rebelred
30-06-2008, 01:03 PM
tbh, I don't think anyone will beat Kerry this year.
it really is theirs to lose.
Rebelred
02-08-2008, 02:57 PM
So, today, Down V Wexford and Tyrone V Mayo!
Downs first match in Croker in a long long time. Mayo are excellent value at 7/4 in the second game.
Lapsy Pa
02-08-2008, 04:06 PM
Half time in the Down and Wexford game. I'm not watching anymore as its absolutely brutal. They both should be put out of their misery.
Whoever beats Dublin will have a great chance of winning the AI. Armagh?
CORKBHOY
02-08-2008, 04:42 PM
Cripes, that was shitty enough. Wexford were fairly poor for a lot of the game, plenty wides like and they still won with ease. Surely Mayo v Tyrone will be better.
Rebelred
02-08-2008, 04:43 PM
worst game of football.
ever.
Youghal Exile
02-08-2008, 05:10 PM
Who would have thought after the 94 all ireland the depths down would sink too.As Joe Brolly said they were badly organised.Never mind winning things down should look to playing with some organisation next year.I sure hope despite previous history with lesser teams that cork get wexford for the quarter final.
Liathroidi Mor
02-08-2008, 05:33 PM
Wexford will be a handy draw for Cork now!!
Youghal Exile
02-08-2008, 06:37 PM
If only john omahony didnt get rid of kieran mcdonald.Tyrone stutter on.
Ringy
02-08-2008, 08:51 PM
On paper Wexford would look handy, but you never know what your getting with Cork footballers.We usually struggle badly with the so called weaker counties,Meath last an exception of course. Kildare would be an interesting one,should they win tomorrow
CORKBHOY
03-08-2008, 02:21 PM
So can Monaghan beat Kerry today? My heart says yes but my head says Kerry will do what Dublin did to Wexford last week.
Corcaigh32
03-08-2008, 02:39 PM
Kerry will win by about 4-5 points, they won't kill themselves so that they can come away from it saying they have an awful lot to do. But from a Kerry perspective what they will want is a good work-out, a strong test - so Monaghan are perfect for them at this stage.
Annie Hall
03-08-2008, 03:53 PM
Kerry will win by about 4-5 points, they won't kill themselves so that they can come away from it saying they have an awful lot to do. But from a Kerry perspective what they will want is a good work-out, a strong test - so Monaghan are perfect for them at this stage.
I agree. Kerry by 4-5 points. Although nobody's underestimating Monaghan. The difference this year is that Kerry are prepared for the type of game Monaghan can throw at them. The fact that Monaghan are still sore from last year's defeat will give them extra impetus and hunger. But the Kingdom should prevail in what I think should be a cracker of a game. Then again, after watching the 1st half of Fermanagh v Kildare, anything could be construed as attractive football. It must be the worst display of execution I have ever seen...
Annie Hall
03-08-2008, 03:54 PM
worst game of football.
ever.
Have you seen the 1st half of Fermanagh v Kildare?
Corcaigh32
03-08-2008, 04:03 PM
The level of finishing in the Fermanagh Kildare game is worse than that of the kids that come on at half time for their 10 minute run out.
Liathroidi Mor
03-08-2008, 04:30 PM
The standard in this game was brutal too!!! Wouldn't fear Kildare or Wexford in the 1/4s based on these performances!!
CORKBHOY
03-08-2008, 04:37 PM
The standard in this game was brutal too!!! Wouldn't fear Kildare or Wexford in the 1/4s based on these performances!!
That was painful, really painful. I could of done something more constructive like matsurbated.
Youghal Exile
03-08-2008, 04:39 PM
I wouldnt mind tyrone not the team they were and only beat a poor mayo team.Their not the unstopable force of 05.
Corcaigh32
03-08-2008, 05:12 PM
Monaghan are up for it but can they keep it going for 70 mins.
ItIsYeah
03-08-2008, 05:27 PM
Monaghan are up for it but can they keep it going for 70 mins.
they are hitting too many wides.
6 widess in the first 15 minutes, muppets!
Rebelred
03-08-2008, 05:50 PM
Kerry look brittle today, 3 points lead is flattering them then. Monaghan just need a bit more composure in front of goal and they can win this.
the other 3 games were terrible, absolutely awful. I'd be very disappointed if we couldn't beat any of those three teams. Tyrone have reverted to their 03 brand of puke football. Absolutley horrible to watch.
The less said about Fermanagh and Kildare the better
Corcaigh32
03-08-2008, 06:33 PM
Wexford, Kildare I would think Cork should win. Tyrone's work rate even it is dour stuff is exceptionally high, would be a tough test.
Rebelred
03-08-2008, 06:41 PM
Kerry deserved it in the end, but were far from impressive. If Monaghan had scored their goal chance could have been a very different match. Donaghy finished his goal well though.
I'd fancy Cork to take any of the other 3, but Tyrone would be the hardest test, their style is just appalling to watch this year.
Youghal Exile
03-08-2008, 07:09 PM
Cork have got kildare.I was hoping kerry would get dublin or armagh but they have drawn galway.
mushypea
03-08-2008, 07:12 PM
Kerry deserved it in the end, but were far from impressive. If Monaghan had scored their goal chance could have been a very different match. Donaghy finished his goal well though.
I'd fancy Cork to take any of the other 3, but Tyrone would be the hardest test, their style is just appalling to watch this year.
well we got Kildare - I think they will be a lot tougher than Tyrone-they've been going backwards...
Rebelred
03-08-2008, 07:14 PM
1. Cork V Kildare
2. Galway V Kerry
3. Armagh V Wexford
4. Tyrone V Dublin
Semi Finals:
1 V 2
3 V 4
so yes, if we win and the animals win, then it's Cork V Kerry in the semi final again
Ringy
03-08-2008, 07:19 PM
Drawing Kildare brought a smile to my face but seeing as if we win we will play Kerry in the semi it was gone just as quick
Youghal Exile
03-08-2008, 07:20 PM
Galway would be stronger up front than monaghan so you never know.I just have a sick feeling in my stomach right now.
Corcaigh32
03-08-2008, 07:22 PM
So Cork v Kerry and Armagh v Dublin.
Rebelred
03-08-2008, 07:23 PM
Galway would be stronger up front than monaghan so you never know.I just have a sick feeling in my stomach right now.
It'll be at the back that Galway will be found out.
Corcaigh32
03-08-2008, 07:32 PM
Would Dublin beat Armagh?
Ringy
03-08-2008, 07:37 PM
Would Dublin beat Armagh?
I would think so this year. The recent stalwarts of Ulster football, Armagh and Tyrone have gone back a bit I believe.On paper I'd expect a Dublin-Kerry final.For the love of god if we do our job against Kildare let a miracle take place and Galway beat Kerry.Im literally sick at the prospect of playing them in Croke Park
Youghal Exile
03-08-2008, 07:41 PM
I would think so this year. The recent stalwarts of Ulster football, Armagh and Tyrone have gone back a bit I believe.On paper I'd expect a Dublin-Kerry final.For the love of god if we do our job against Kildare let a miracle take place and Galway beat Kerry.Im literally sick at the prospect of playing them in Croke Park
If galway play well in defence and midfield they have the forwards to take kerry.Dublin have yet to beat a proven team and any team with stevie mcdonald and ronan clarke is dangerous.
Lapsy Pa
03-08-2008, 07:51 PM
Should take care of Kildare handy enough but those animals will be waiting in the semis. Disaster
Corcaigh32
03-08-2008, 08:08 PM
It's important not to underestimate Kildare because the last thing we want is a Waterford style assumption that we are in the semis already. That being said I think Cork should win. However, it is essential that we don't overestimate Kerry either. There is a psychology at play here. If we make it to the semis against them, we need to have the confidence that we CAN beat Kerry. It's tricky - we would never be so over-confident as to think because of the Munster win we should beat them, but at the same time we have to believe we CAN beat them again. I don't think this would be putting extra pressure on the team rather, it would be a show of confidence in the lads that we believe we can go on and beat them
Ringy
03-08-2008, 09:45 PM
We got our double header anyway.
This is the fixtures,dates and times all for Croke Park according to RTE.ie
All-Ireland SFC quarter-final draw:
Saturday, 9 August
Armagh -v- Wexford, 2.00pm
Galway -v- Kerry, 4.00pm
Sunday, 10 August
Cork -v- Kildare, 2.00pm
Saturday, 16 August
Dublin -v- Tyrone, 4.00pm
korky
03-08-2008, 09:57 PM
Lads we beat Kerry in the Munster final,why should we be afraid of them in the semi.If Monaghan had taken their goal chance today or even fisted over for a point then things might have turned out different.To get to an all Ireland you have to beat the best,to win it you may have to beat the best twice.
Rebelred
03-08-2008, 10:35 PM
I would think so this year. The recent stalwarts of Ulster football, Armagh and Tyrone have gone back a bit I believe.On paper I'd expect a Dublin-Kerry final.For the love of god if we do our job against Kildare let a miracle take place and Galway beat Kerry.Im literally sick at the prospect of playing them in Croke Park
I think Armagh have improved this year on last, but are over dependent on McDonnell and Clarke for scores. Dublin, well, they're good but I'm not convinced, they continually get shown up year after year.
I'm not sick at the prospect of playing them at Croker, I know they usually get better as the season goes on, but they really stuttered along for 55 minutes today, the goal was a sucker punch. It's just a bit of a balls having to beat the pricks twice to win the ultimate title.
Annie Hall
03-08-2008, 11:25 PM
Well, well, well...
See ye in the Semi, folks :D
Rebelred
04-08-2008, 12:41 AM
Well, well, well...
See ye in the Semi, folks :D
will ye actually go? or watch it on the telly like ye all did today?
Corcaigh32
04-08-2008, 12:43 AM
Have travel and accommodation sorted - just to get the tickets now.....bought a world flag and a new PROC t-shirt.......can't wait.
Top Dog
04-08-2008, 10:30 AM
Lads we beat Kerry in the Munster final,why should we be afraid of them in the semi.If Monaghan had taken their goal chance today or even fisted over for a point then things might have turned out different.To get to an all Ireland you have to beat the best,to win it you may have to beat the best twice.
Kerry have not Galway beat yet it is possible that Galway could beat Kerry but very unlikely Kerry did not look very good agaist Monaghan yesterday
Will Galway beat Kerry ....Yes or No
bigboyfoolish
04-08-2008, 11:00 AM
Will Galway beat Kerry ....Yes or No
Wouldn't think so..
Galway play an open game.. Will try and unfootball them..
Kerry will hit them hard and often, pull of the wee jersey here,
stamp n the toe there, O'Mahony and O'Se Senior will start the odd
shemozzle and see if the Galway lads have the stomach for the fight.
And Galway being Galway will wilt, fade and fold like a cheap suit.
It'll be Cork and Kerry again in the semi..
bigboyfoolish
04-08-2008, 11:08 AM
And I'm not so sure if we should be too
fearful of them..
If they beat us which everyone will expect then fair enough
but the pressure is off again to certain extent.
They delivered when it mattered most and when Cork football stood on
a cliff edge at half time down the Park.
They showed a lot of mettle, heart and determination to come back in that game.
Michael Shields is back. Brian O'Regan has a added a little more dynamism and steel in the defence.
Goulding is starting to grow in stature.
We've a decent bench now for a change
We can't have any fear.
We must not be overawed.
Play our own game.
Play with our instinct and our hearts and
we're capable of beating absolutely anyone.
No Fear!!!
Top Dog
04-08-2008, 01:06 PM
I think this articule is a load of rubbish the Monaghan coach believes that the present Kerry team is one of the greatest of all time no chance how and why did he come to that conclusion
http://www.irishexaminer.co m/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=68977-qqqx=1.asp
Youghal Exile
04-08-2008, 01:10 PM
Wouldn't think so..
Galway play an open game.. Will try and unfootball them..
Kerry will hit them hard and often, pull of the wee jersey here,
stamp n the toe there, O'Mahony and O'Se Senior will start the odd
shemozzle and see if the Galway lads have the stomach for the fight.
And Galway being Galway will wilt, fade and fold like a cheap suit.
It'll be Cork and Kerry again in the semi..
Unfortunately i think your right galway just dont have the dirtiness to beat kerry.
bigboyfoolish
04-08-2008, 03:29 PM
Unfortunately i think your right galway just dont have the dirtiness to beat kerry.
Lads Kildare looking for a postponement
4 weeks in row and they have a precedent..
Fermanagh 3 years ago apparently had their game postponed for a week..
And Tyrone have been given an extra week due to the fact that
their game V Dublin has been out back a week.
We could be in trouble again with the double header
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