Leinster Rugby fans are the best supporters

[POL]

Celtic Rugby is pleased to confirm that Irish Province Leinster have retained their title as 'Best Supported Team' in the Magners League for 2007/08.

With their final home game still to come, Leinster are recording average gates of around 14,000 for this season's Magners League games, 17% up on last year's figure.

David Jordan, Director of Celtic Rugby said: "This award reflects both the hard work behind the scenes and the fact that Leinster's loyal fans are voting with their feet endorsing a brand of rugby that sees their team at the top of the Magners League."

"Across Europe only three teams, Leicester Tigers, Toulouse and Stade Francais have better average league gates this season. Leinster's move to the RDS has obviously reaped rewards. congratulations must go to everyone concerned with the Province."

"Despite the early impact of the Rugby World Cup, the Magners League has experienced a growth in attendances across the board this season, and we anticipate building on that success going forward as our teams realise plans to upgrade their stadia."

Maurice Breen, Director of Marketing and New Markets, Wm. Magner said: "We would like to offer our congratulations to everyone at Leinster, to achieve this accolade two years in a row is testament to the hard work that is put in off the field along with the loyalty of Leinster's fans. The move to the RDS has been a huge success and illustrates the hunger that exists for the brand of rugby played in the Magners League."

"Leinster's success off the pitch has mirrored results on it and we look forward to seeing another great game in front of a packed house on Saturday night as Leinster look for the win that would see them claim the Magners League trophy for the first time."

[Lamps]

I've noticed EddieB and Sully850 are avoiding this thread

[EDDIEB]

Great supporters.......... .............shit team.


Meanwhile Munster after knocking out the champions elect of England and France,an away Quarter Final & Semi-Final are in with a chance of winning the European Cup yet again.

[BangorFeen]

And?

Fair play to them and all that but what's your point? They turn out in big numbers for the ML and should be commended for that. I know the Leinster SC do tremendous work.

[Hang_Sandwich]

ulster used to have the following - also it should be noted that munster sold out most of its games this year - be interesting to see what numbers they get for the 7 ML games in thomand next year

[POL]

what have the self proclaimed "greatest supporters in the world" got to say about this? what would Billy Keane think? After all the craic they have at away matches this must be some kick in the teeth for them!

[POL]

And?

Fair play to them and all that but what's your point? They turn out in big numbers for the ML and should be commended for that. I know the Leinster SC do tremendous work.It shows the self proclaimed "greatest fans in the world" in the world for what they are, big match glory hunting sham merchants

[Lamps]

If there isn't a weekend away drinking heinos, jumping on some fat lads back and slapping his arse, all in the name of good clean fun, then they ain't interested in going.

And thats the bottom line

[EDDIEB]

what have the self proclaimed "greatest supporters in the world" got to say about this? what would Billy Keane think? After all the craic they have at away matches this must be some kick in the teeth for them!

Munster dine at the top table whilst your boys get a gift wrapped flagon of cider for their efforts :lol!:

[POL]

If there isn't a weekend away drinking heinos, jumping on some fat lads back and slapping his arse, all in the name of good clean fun, then they ain't interested in going.

And thats the bottom lineBeing Badly exposed here in fairness, if it doesn't involve at least a weekend on the Mainland, having the craic and drinking loads of Guinness, these sham merchants don't want to know about it

[BangorFeen]

It shows the self proclaimed "greatest fans in the world" in the world for what they are, big match glory hunting sham merchants
And?

I go to both the ML and the HEC so whatcha gonna do? In the end of the day, the ineffectual ramblings of some INTERNET obsessive aren't going to change the very favourable press that Munster fans get in virtually all corners. Neither will they matter one jot to those who went to Coventry or those who will go to Cardiff. It'll be a great day irrespective of whether we win or not, Sky will gush, Billy Keane will wax lyrical and all will be well with the world. I'm lucky enough to be going. You can rail about it all you want but the SFI is weak.

Greatest Fans In The World, POL.

Greatest Fans in the World.

[Rebel Yell]

what have the self proclaimed "greatest supporters in the world" got to say about this? what would Billy Keane think? After all the craic they have at away matches this must be some kick in the teeth for them!

Why ? I think it's great that Leinster get such large attendances now. it is just indicative of the fact that rugby is still on an upward curve in this country ...just wait til the new Thomond opens...there will probably be 1.5 million (allegedly) attend the Munster v AB game in November...

[POL]

Usual shite from the Munstershire fans, belittle other provinces and pretending not to care about the magners league etc etc, Must really eat away at the likes of eddieb that they did not manage to beat Leinster this year

[EDDIEB]

Usual shite from the Munstershire fans, belittle other provinces and pretending not to care about the magners league etc etc, Must really eat away at the likes of eddieb that they did not manage to beat Leinster this year

Munster dine at the top table POL.

Top table POL.

Europes top 2 teams compete for the HEC.Leinster fell way short and were badly exposed.

If someone came on here praising Munster winning the Magners League whilst Leinster were in the HEC final against Toulouse they would be slaughtered.

Congrats to you and your team for winning the Magners League but failing inthe the competition that really counts.

[BangorFeen]

Usual shite from the Munstershire fans, belittle other provinces and pretending not to care about the magners league etc etc, Must really eat away at the likes of eddieb that they did not manage to beat Leinster this year
Greatest fans in the world

http://www.ercrugby.com/images/news/munsterfans_lansdown e.jpg

The galaxy perhaps?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Munster_rugby_2006.j pg/350px-Munster_rugby_2006.j pg

[HappyMonday83]

It's about time the best team in the country became the best supported team aswell. Big up the rock.

[POL]

Hilarious, the greatest fans in the world looking down their noses at the Magners League when even Declan Kidney has stated how important it is to playtop class rugby to keep teams fresh, half the cunts that will be in Cardiff think Musgrave Park is in Limerick FFS, JOCKS EXPOSED AGAIN

[HappyMonday83]

Hilarious, the greatest fans in the world looking down their noses at the Magners League when even Declan Kidney has stated how important it is to playtop class rugby to keep teams fresh, half the cunts that will be in Cardiff think Musgrave Park is in Limerick FFS, JOCKS EXPOSED AGAIN

This is the usual bandwagon attitude. They'll travel down to the south of france for the HC but won't go to stade de thomond on a friday night.

[EDDIEB]

It's about time the best team in the country became the best supported team aswell. Big up the rock.

Meanwhile back to reality :p

ERC European Rankings (April 2008)
Rank Team Name Total Points Pts 2007-2008 Pts 2006-2007 Pts 2005-2006 Pts 2004-2005
1 Munster 29 9 4 11 5
2 Toulouse 28 9 3 5 11
3 Biarritz Olympique 24 3 5 9 7
4 Leicester Tigers 23 3 9 5 6
5 Stade Francais 20 3 5 3 9
6 London Wasps 18 2 11 3 2
7 Leinster 18 2 5 6 5
8 Bath Rugby 16 3 3 7 3
9 Gloucester Rugby 15 5 2 5 3
10 Perpignan 15 4 3 5 3
11 Saracens 13 7 2 3 1
12 Sale Sharks 13 2 2 4 5
13 Llanelli Scarlets 12 1 7 2 2
14 London Irish 11 7 1 3 0
15 Ospreys 11 4 3 2 2
16 Northampton Saints 11 - 6 1 4
17 Cardiff Blues 10 5 2 2 1
18 ASM Clermont Auvergne 10 3 5 1 1
19 Newcastle Falcons 10 2 1 2 5
20 Dragons 8 2 2 2 2
21 Ulster 7 1 2 2 2
22 Castres Olympique 7 1 2 1 3
23 Bourgoin 6 2 1 2 1
24 Glasgow Warriors 5 2 1 1 1
25 Benetton Treviso 5 1 1 1 2
26 Worcester Warriors 5 3 0 2 0
27 Brive 5 1 1 1 2
28 Edinburgh Rugby 4 1 1 1 1
29 Leeds Carnegie 4 1 - 3 0
30 SU Agen 4 - 3 0 1
31 Bristol Rugby 3 2 1 0 -
32 Calvisano 3 0 1 1 1
33 Connacht Rugby 3 0 0 1 2
34 Pau 3 - - 0 3
35 Harlequins 2 1 0 - 1
36 Viadana 1 1 0 0 0
37 Montpellier 1 1 0 0 0
38 Overmach Parma 1 0 1 0 0
39 Bayonne 1 0 0 1 0
40 Grenoble 1 - - - 1


The new ERC European Ranking aims to reward and incentivise teams who consistently perform at the highest level in European competition over four seasons by separating the leading teams in the Pool stages.

[HappyMonday83]

Meanwhile back to reality :p



What were the results in the two matches they played this season?

[EDDIEB]

What were the results in the two matches they played this season?

C C C C C Clutching at straws in a warm up development league for the HEC,Munster had their eye on the greater prize which has paid off so far by playing squad members etc.and resting players for the Quarter & Semi-Finals. See tonights team against Ulster for example.Also without barely trying Munster could win the Cider league with second strinng which shows the strength in depth of the squad.

ERC Rankings prove me right as Munster dine at the top table.

Ulster need to win both their Magners League home matches this week to clinch their Heineken Cup berth for next season and tonight's re-scheduling of their clash with Munster (Ravenhill, 7.30) offers them the perfect chance to leap the initial hurdle.

It will also go some way towards enabling the IRFU to avoid the embarrassment of being forced to deal with the highly awkward situation of a Connacht squad they have utterly neglected trumping one of the leading lights of Irish rugby.

Munster are predictably weakened, but the term is a pejorative one if used within earshot of the southern club as the Ospreys, amongst many others, can testify.

A fortnight ago, Munster clipped the Welsh side's wings with a 9-8 victory as the Red Army's 'shadow squad' aided the frontliners' preparations for the Heineken Cup.

Given Ulster's wildly unpredictable form this season, Munster's hungry starters could be in ravenous mood with Heineken Cup squad places up for grabs and the home coach Matt Williams has alerted his players to the potential threat of complacency.

Munster's one backline change from the side that defeated the Ospreys in that Musgrave Park clash sees Peter Stringer return to the starting XV where he will partner Paul Warwick.

Up front, Donncha O'Callaghan is rested and Donnacha Ryan, an impressive replacement against Saracens last Sunday, slots into the second row alongside Mick O'Driscoll.

Anthony Foley, who to the shock of many Munster supporters lost out to Ryan last weekend, will make his 200th appearance for the club. John O'Sullivan, who wore the No 7 jersey so impressively against the Ospreys, switches to the blindside with Niall Ronan, forced out last time with a back strain, returning to the openside.

For his part, Williams has made six changes to the side that was so clearly over-run in the first-half of a comprehensive Arms Park defeat in Cardiff 11 days ago.

The front row welcomes back captain Rory Best, who returns from injury to line up beside Bryan Young at loose head and Tom Court at tight head. Stephen Ferris returns to action, with Roger Wilson dropping out of the squad and Neil Best named as back row cover on the bench.

In the backs, Williams has made three changes with the half-back partnership of Isaac Boss and Paddy Wallace replacing Paul Marshall and Niall O'Connor. Bryn Cunningham returns to start at full-back, with Mark McCrea named on the bench.

Ulster have gained just one victory in their last four matches in the Magners League -- a potentially decisive 18-6 win at home to Connacht on April 11. Though they have won their last four games at Ravenhill in all competitions.

Munster have, however, won three of their last four games in the Magners League and their record in Belfast will give another Munster man, Connacht coach Michael Bradley, hope of an upset.

Unfortunately for him and his province, those thoughts will not be echoed in all rugby circles.

[alive_and_sleeping]

Celtic Rugby is pleased to confirm that Irish Province Leinster have retained their title as 'Best Supported Team' in the Magners League for 2007/08.

With their final home game still to come, Leinster are recording average gates of around 14,000 for this season's Magners League games, 17% up on last year's figure.

Out of a matter of interest what is the capacity of Musgrave Park again? It's somewhere between 6,500 and 8,000 as far as I remember, isn't it?

And the magners league, isn't that played in Musgrave Park.

So let me work it out here now, if we play all the magners league games in a stadium with a capacity for 8000 people then how can one expect us to have 14,000 attending our games?

Back in your box POL;)

[EDDIEB]

From the dissapointment of the Rugby World Cup we now have Leinster winning the Magners League and Munster as Europes No.1 side up against the mighty Toulouse for the Heineken Cup on 24th of May and with Decvlan Kidney being appointed the Irish job soon its a big turnaround and hope that the redeveloped Landsdown,Thomond and Musgrave Park will be rolled out in the next 18 months.

[HappyMonday83]

C C C C C Clutching at straws in a warm up development league for the HEC,Munster had their eye on the greater prize which has paid off so far by playing squad members etc.and resting players for the Quarter & Semi-Finals. See tonights team against Ulster for example.Also without barely trying Munster could win the Cider league with second strinng which shows the strength in depth of the squad.




Answer the question eddie.

[EDDIEB]

Read the answer.


Jeez.


Munster are the top side in Europe now get over it and try not to let it get to you so much as every one from Leinster would rather swap places with Munster.

[HappyMonday83]

Read the answer.


Jeez.


Munster are the top side in Europe now get over it and try not to let it get to you so much as every one from Leinster would rather swap places with Munster.

What were the results in the two head to heads? Answer the question eddie.

[Lamps]

Looks like Eddie is up to his old tricks of not answering the question

[alive_and_sleeping]

If there isn't a weekend away drinking heinos, jumping on some fat lads back and slapping his arse, all in the name of good clean fun, then they ain't interested in going.

And thats the bottom line

Just in case you didn't see my post above lampsie-

Capacity Musgrave Park 7-8000
Magners League games played in Musgrave Park
No way of having an attendance close to Leinsters 14,000, not in this reality anyway.

[EDDIEB]

What were the results in the two head to heads? Answer the question eddie.

Oh forgot Leinster won beating Munster twice in the cider league with Munsters eye on the big prize as Europes No.1 club side.Munster reserved are still close to Leinster in that league.

Happy now happy?


No ?

I did'nt think so.


Leinster clearly are the best team,best supporters and everything.

I stand corrected.:rolleyes:

Meanwhile back to reality....http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/121_9900.php

[POL]

Eddie is really struggling here :lol!:

What came first? The winning, not the fans
DENIS WALSH

AS A body of people Munster rugby supporters tend to be pleased with themselves. They feel part of something powerful, something tribal, something wholesome. They feel a bond with the team and believe that the feeling is returned. At Thomond Park they feel inseparable from the result and the performance and the terror and the mystique, and a version of that atmosphere has been successfully vacuum-packed for export to away grounds.

They like the idea that when other people think of the Munster phenomenon, the fans inhabit the same thought. Hang the humility. they know they’re special. They like the idea that the Munster players feel both canonised and ordinary. In fact, they would insist on it. For a television preview of their Celtic League match last weekend a Leinster player was interviewed with his sunglasses resting in his hair. Imagine a Munster player with sunglasses in his hair? The Munster public wouldn’t stand for it. Culturally, it would be a capital offence.

It was yet another badge of honour that the Leinster supporters were routed in Lansdowne Road before a ball was kicked. Tickets were priceless, unattainable. the Munster fans got them. Judging by reports coming from Biarritz this week the Millennium stadium will be bleeding with red on Saturday week. Tickets went on sale in southern France to a great Gallic shrug.

All of that is wonderful but here’s the thing: most of these so-called diehards are actually bandwagon-jumpers. Thousands upon thousands of Munster supporters are Johnnies-come-lately. The fans didn’t make Munster sexy or help Munster to win because they weren’t there. the winning and the sexiness came first, then the fans. That was the sequence.

Looking back, some of the figures are staggering. Between 1995 and the end of January 2000 Munster played 12 home games in the Heineken Cup without filling Thomond Park or Musgrave Park. In fact, they only came close twice: for the Harlequins game in 1997 and the Saracens game at the start of 2000, which had attendances given at 10,000. Munster’s average home crowd for the other 10 games was 4,700.

In 1998 Munster played three home games against Padova, Neath and Perpignan to combined home crowds of 7,500. Total. When Neath visited Musgrave Park that autumn only 1,500 turned up.

The first time that Thomond Park was full to capacity for a Heineken Cup match was the 2000 quarter-final against Stade Francais, in the fifth season of the competition. People queued at Thomond Park in the rain from 5am, five hours before the ticket booth opened. That was the start of the fans phenomenon.

Munster reached the final that year in Twickenham and their support was extraordinary, perhaps 30,000 strong. Except for the match against Italy in the 1994 soccer World Cup, no team from Ireland had enjoyed such support on foreign soil.

But where were the faithful the following autumn when Newport visited Thomond Park in the opening game of the Heineken Cup? The crowd numbered a modest 9,200. By the time the Heineken Cup pool stages resume in the autumn it can be anything up to six months since Munster appeared in the competition. You would think that Munster fans would be dying to see the team again. But Harlequins’ visit to Thomond Park in autumn 2004 was the first time that Munster’s debut home pool match was attended by a full house.

The reality is that there is no ancient history of mass Munster support. For a start, there was no competition structure to support it. The inter-pros were a dead-duck and touring teams were a sporadic presence.

In the wonderful stage dramatisation of Munster’s victory over the All Blacks, Alone it Stands, ticket deprivation is one of the narrative lines but this is dramatic licence. It is clear from Stand Up and Fight, the definitive account of that match, that tickets were readily available in the preceding days and outside the ground on the day itself.

Fourteen years ago when Munster beat Australia in Musgrave Park, their last victory over a touring team, there was no problem getting into the ground. Granted, it was a midweek match, it was raining and the visitors were fielding their second string, but Australia were the world champions and if it meant so much to be a Munster supporter why wasn’t the ground full? It simply didn’t mean that much or at least it meant that much only to a passionate few.

The Heineken Cup final will be a mind-blowing spectacle and the Munster fans will make it so. But should we measure Munster’s support by Heineken Cup finals or bread and butter appearances in the Celtic League? Two weeks after filling Lansdowne Road for the quarter-final, Munster couldn’t fill Thomond Park for the visit of the Edinburgh.

In the great hype of self-congratulation, we ought to remember that too.

[rockyoc]

How Munster can be expected to have a higher average attendence than Leinster when they place their Magners league games in a stadium with half the capacity I'll never know.

[alive_and_sleeping]

How Munster can be expected to have a higher average attendence than Leinster when they place their Magners league games in a stadium with half the capacity I'll never know.

They'll just ignore you rocky. Notice how I've brought this up twice now and they've failed to respond to it.

[Superior]

Amazing levels of Uncle Tommery going on here. That's right, Leinster is better than Munster and England are better than Ireland.

[POL]

I hope to god that Toulouse can hammer the shit out of those English Bastards in the final

[#11sully]

Celtic Rugby is pleased to confirm that Irish Province Leinster have retained their title as 'Best Supported Team' in the Magners League for 2007/08.

With their final home game still to come, Leinster are recording average gates of around 14,000 for this season's Magners League games, 17% up on last year's figure.

David Jordan, Director of Celtic Rugby said: "This award reflects both the hard work behind the scenes and the fact that Leinster's loyal fans are voting with their feet endorsing a brand of rugby that sees their team at the top of the Magners League."

"Across Europe only three teams, Leicester Tigers, Toulouse and Stade Francais have better average league gates this season. Leinster's move to the RDS has obviously reaped rewards. congratulations must go to everyone concerned with the Province."

"Despite the early impact of the Rugby World Cup, the Magners League has experienced a growth in attendances across the board this season, and we anticipate building on that success going forward as our teams realise plans to upgrade their stadia."

Maurice Breen, Director of Marketing and New Markets, Wm. Magner said: "We would like to offer our congratulations to everyone at Leinster, to achieve this accolade two years in a row is testament to the hard work that is put in off the field along with the loyalty of Leinster's fans. The move to the RDS has been a huge success and illustrates the hunger that exists for the brand of rugby played in the Magners League."

"Leinster's success off the pitch has mirrored results on it and we look forward to seeing another great game in front of a packed house on Saturday night as Leinster look for the win that would see them claim the Magners League trophy for the first time."

I've noticed EddieB and Sully850 are avoiding this thread

Jesus. 1 minute after POL posts your on saying we are advoiding ye.

Up 17% from last year. Good to see the bandwagon getting stronger in Leinster :rolleyes: hope they keep it going.

[EDDIEB]

I hope to god that Toulouse can hammer the shit out of those English Bastards in the final

I also hope the great Toulousechester can beat those English bastards also.

It would mean so much.

So much....


But wait that was the semi......


Shit, Toulouseshestershire ham are'nt playing an English team in the final.


Its Irelands finest,Top of Europe, wait for it.........


























Munster.....:-P

[EDDIEB]

Jesus. 1 minute after POL posts your on saying we are advoiding ye.

Up 17% from last year. Good to see the bandwagon getting stronger in Leinster :rolleyes: hope they keep it going.

I would love to see Connaught do so well also next season.Munster have changed their game and its paid off as the ruck,maul and driving game would not have go them to the final and the top of Europe with Howlett,Tipoki & Mafi playing the faster running and offloading game.Great that Leinster win the Magners League also but knowing that teams ambitions they will see it as a dissapointment to what might have been especially for BOD,O'Kelly,Contempo ni,Cullen & Kearney.

[Lamps]

All true Corkmen will be supporting Toulouse, come on the scarlets

[HappyMonday83]

Oh forgot Leinster won beating Munster twice in the cider league with Munsters eye on the big prize as Europes No.1 club side.Munster reserved are still close to Leinster in that league.

Happy now happy?


No ?

I did'nt think so.


Leinster clearly are the best team,best supporters and everything.

I stand corrected.:rolleyes:

Meanwhile back to reality....http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/121_9900.php

This was the munster team that got their asses handed to them in the RDS.Munster : D Hurley, D Howlett, L Mafi, R Tipoki, I Dowling, R O'Gara (capt), P Stringer, T Buckley, J Flannery, J Hayes, D O'Callaghan, M O'Driscoll, A Quinlan, D Leamy, A Foley.

If that's munster second team, who plays with the firsts?

Pwned again eddie.

[EDDIEB]

All true Corkmen will be supporting Toulouse, come on the scarlets

I would be dissapointed if you did'nt !

Lamps jumps aboard the Toulousechester Bandwagon....tickets please ?.

Should be a great match for a final - please God.

2 of Europes top 2 sides playing each other in a great sporting occasion ?


May the best team win.



Enough small timery.

Its childish and its only sport after all.


Sport.

[Edmund Blackwater]

How Munster can be expected to have a higher average attendence than Leinster when they place their Magners league games in a stadium with half the capacity I'll never know.
How did they manage to cram 400,000 into Thomond back on that fateful day? I remember Ryle Nugent telling us once that Munstershire fans always find a way to follow their team.
Unless it's an ML game, obviously.

[rockyoc]

Safety regulations were a bit slack back in the day like.

Story of myth and legend my friend, there were nowhere near that many people and you know it. Unless of course you saw with your own eyes all 400,000 people going in?

Magner's league attendances on the whole are shit and everyone knows it. Everyone knows Munster put a B team out for a lot of games and unless it's a big one no one wants to pay the money to go. A shame I know but thats how it works in any sport. People pay money to watch the best players play. I'd say Leinster have picked their first team a lot more this season in the ML than Munster have so people will go.

That and being top of the league helps too. You think they'd be drawing 14 000 every week if they were in Ulster's position? No, the bandwagoners wouldn't be there then.

[HappyMonday83]

Safety regulations were a bit slack back in the day like.

Story of myth and legend my friend, there were nowhere near that many people and you know it. Unless of course you saw with your own eyes all 400,000 people going in?

Magner's league attendances on the whole are shit and everyone knows it. Everyone knows Munster put a B team out for a lot of games and unless it's a big one no one wants to pay the money to go. A shame I know but thats how it works in any sport. People pay money to watch the best players play. I'd say Leinster have picked their first team a lot more this season in the ML than Munster have so people will go.

That and being top of the league helps too. You think they'd be drawing 14 000 every week if they were in Ulster's position? No, the bandwagoners wouldn't be there then.

I love how the munstershire faithful flip-flop when it comes to their estimation of the disney league. It wasn't too long ago that the jocks were up in arm when I suggested the disney league wasn't worth a shit, but now that leinster are winning and beat munstershire twice they'll try and claim that it's not important. Classic bandwagoning.

[rockyoc]

I love how the munstershire faithful flip-flop when it comes to their estimation of the disney league. It wasn't too long ago that the jocks were up in arm when I suggested the disney league wasn't worth a shit, but now that leinster are winning and beat munstershire twice they'll try and claim that it's not important. Classic bandwagoning.

I think it's very important. I'd say the Munster management team would say the same. Obviously though for them its less important than the Heineken cup and they'd be right. The HC is where you measure yourself against the best in Europe, not the ML. What top teams don't rest their best players before important European games in any Sport. Hell Liverpool rest their best team every other week.

[alive_and_sleeping]

With the squad Munster have at the moment even their 2nd team is top notch and I've no problem hitting musgrave park to watch them play. I don't know what the attendance has been like overall this year in the ML but it's certainly been jammed everytime I've been down to Musgrave park for a game.

[POL]

They'll just ignore you rocky. Notice how I've brought this up twice now and they've failed to respond to it.Really! Even the most casual glance at the attendances will answer your question, now tell us, how do you explain the Muzzer attendances of 3,400 on the 22nd September against Lianelli? or maybe the 6,075 on the 5th October against Cardiff, or even the 7,500 on the 22nd March against Ulster?

Greatest Supporters in the world my arse :lol!:

self pwnage, always the best I find

[HappyMonday83]

http://members.optushome.co m.au/redknob/images/pwned.jpg

[POL]

Typical Munstershire supporter this alive and creeping character, clueless in the extreme, that 3,400 attendance says all you need to know about these creeps, and then the gall of them to look down their noses at Leinster and Ulster attendances, what a focking joke :lol!: "If Muzzers was, loike, you know, bigger and stuff, we would easily fill it every time mon, like we always do" :lol!:

[POL]

http://members.optushome.co m.au/redknob/images/pwned.jpg

Give them enough rope and they will always hang themselves, I was hoping he might bump it once more, thinking he was a smart lad

[HappyMonday83]

Give them enough rope and they will always hang themselves, I was hoping he might bump it once more, thinking he was a smart lad

Some of these fellas don't know what they're dealing with. The mere idea that somebody doesn't own a munstershire jersey is enough to blow their minds.

[Proinsias]

Some of these fellas don't know what they're dealing with. The mere idea that somebody doesn't own a munstershire jersey is enough to blow their minds.

Hmm, this thread is ridiculous, so commenting on it might be a little pointless, but here goes.

Anyway, well done Leinster. Some good stuff this season and have been building a good scrum. They should be a great team next season if Cian Healy keeps improving and they can recruit another quality prop.

Both provinces have done well, attendance wise this season, Munster have officially sold out most of their games this season, they've had a problem with people who have season tickets not turning up. Considering every saturday that a munster home match has been on, they've had pretty much a full house attendance, I think it's fair to say that it's the problem of Munster being spread out geographically that could be part of the problem. If people from Limerick have season tickets, it's a bit of a bother for them to get down to Cork by 7.30pm for a friday evening kick off, like, for example, the 6k for the cardiff game (friday evening), connacht game (thursday evening). All the other games (bar that weird Llanelli one) have been over 7.5k out of a possible 8.3k

As far as I can tell, that Llanelli match was a combination of the world cup (the Ireland-France match was the night before, huge amount of the crowd would have been at that, there was also the England-Samoa match on at the exact same time where it was thought Samoa might win) and the match was very much a second string affair.


But, of course, this sort of detail, research, analysis and thought about Munster's attendance figures is inevitably wasted here.

So witter on, continue with "pwned", "bandwagon" and "Munstershire" and I'll go talk sport elsewhere.

[POL]

good try Jimmy, however no cigar

[Proinsias]

good try Jimmy, however no cigar

My point illustrated perfectly.

Thank you.

[EDDIEB]

My point illustrated perfectly.

Thank you.

Its all they know.


Leave them off.

[Lamps]

what a pwnage of that pseudo jock nerd alive and creeping. nice work lads

looks like he's completely bought the "greatest fans in the world (tm)" line. the very same fella couldn't tell you who michael kiernan is but was there when Munstershire beat the all blacks. Its a known FACT that Munstershire only cranks up its bandwagon post group stage in the Heino, a Friday night in the pissing rain in Muzzer means nothing to the common garden jock when he could be half watching it in the Rob Roy on Setanta.

[Proinsias]

Its all they know.


Leave them off.

I know, I know.

I really shouldn't respond, but unfortunately some, reasonably sensible, people on here seem to be adopting their position on Munster.

Meh, I mostly avoid the SF now, cause tis rare you'll get a decent discussion on rugby without it being ruined by some inane waffling. I get my rugby fixes elsewhere. The subject of this thread does deserve celebrating and it is a good sign of just how much better the Leinster set up has gotten, but, of course, this sort of discussion just isn't possible on here.

Maybe I'll post it up elsewhere and have a proper discussion about it.

[Proinsias]

what a pwnage of that pseudo jock nerd alive and creeping. nice work lads

looks like he's completely bought the "greatest fans in the world (tm)" line. the very same fella couldn't tell you who michael kiernan is but was there when Munstershire beat the all blacks. Its a known FACT that Munstershire only cranks up its bandwagon post group stage in the Heino, a Friday night in the pissing rain in Muzzer means nothing to the common garden jock when he could be half watching it in the Rob Roy on Setanta.

I think I've gotten a line on my SFI Word Bingo Card.

[Lamps]

I think I've gotten a line on my SFI Word Bingo Card.

just who do you think you are dealing with Jock?

[Proinsias]

just who do you think you are dealing with Jock?

Someone who's been spouting the same repetitive crap for going on 3 years now?

Might even be four. God only knows.

[Lamps]

Someone who's been spouting the same repetitive crap for going on 3 years now?

Might even be four. God only knows.

The truth doesn't change

[Edmund Blackwater]

Really! Even the most casual glance at the attendances will answer your question, now tell us, how do you explain the 1:Muzzer attendances of 3,400 on the 22nd September against Lianelli? 2:or maybe the 6,075 on the 5th October against Cardiff, or even 3:the 7,500 on the 22nd March against Ulster?

Greatest Supporters in the world my arse :lol!:

self pwnage, always the best I find

1: Raining
2: Manyoo were on the telly
3: Saving up for the heino game.

[Proinsias]

The truth doesn't change

What hasn't changed is the message.

What has changed is that there are now many more regular attendees at Magners League matches for pretty much all of the Irish provinces.

So, fancy spouting more buzz words or engaging in a proper discussion? I know you're capable of it, but there's some sort of circle-jerk fest image that needs to be maintained, so admitting that there may be genuine reasons behind the discrepancy between Heineken Cup attendances and Magners League figure is, frankly, beyond the SFI.

[Proinsias]

1: Raining
2: Manyoo were on the telly
3: Saving up for the heino game.

I've already addressed this.

[Edmund Blackwater]

I take offence that when my province is mentioned, some people automatically think of a rugby team. Is this what Collins gave his life for, bumboys in jeeps?

[Proinsias]

I take offence that when my province is mentioned, some people automatically think of a rugby team. Is this what Collins gave his life for, bumboys in jeeps?

Not really, no.


But then again, Collins didn't give his life so that the SFI could spew out pointless spam on an internet message board either.

This is a fun game.

House price inflation. Is this what Collins gave his life for, bumboys in jeeps?

Crap public transport in Cork. Is this what Collins gave his life for, bumboys in jeeps?

People driving jeeps in the city. Is this what Collins gave his life for, bumboys in jeeps?

[Edmund Blackwater]

Not really, no.


But then again, Collins didn't give his life so that the SFI could spew out pointless spam on an internet message board either.

This is a fun game.

House price inflation. Is this what Collins gave his life for, bumboys in jeeps?

Crap public transport in Cork. Is this what Collins gave his life for, bumboys in jeeps?

People driving jeeps in the city. Is this what Collins gave his life for, bumboys in jeeps?
Grow up, frank.

[EDDIEB]

I know, I know.

I really shouldn't respond, but unfortunately some, reasonably sensible, people on here seem to be adopting their position on Munster.

Meh, I mostly avoid the SF now, cause tis rare you'll get a decent discussion on rugby without it being ruined by some inane waffling. I get my rugby fixes elsewhere. The subject of this thread does deserve celebrating and it is a good sign of just how much better the Leinster set up has gotten, but, of course, this sort of discussion just isn't possible on here.

Maybe I'll post it up elsewhere and have a proper discussion about it.

Its all they have,stock catchphrases,juvenil e inane comments,childish wummery,sychophancy and trapped in a permanent adolescence.

[Proinsias]

Grow up, frank.

Is suggesting that people following Munster rugby is insulting the memory of a national hero is grown up?

[BangorFeen]

Grow up, frank.
I doubt you have the necessary height perspective to make that request in a meaningful way given the post Proinsias was responding to.

[BangorFeen]

Is suggesting that people following Munster rugby is insulting the memory of a national hero is grown up?
Sure Collins would never have gone in for that west-Brit rugby lark...

[Edmund Blackwater]

Is suggesting that people following Munster rugby is insulting the memory of a national hero is grown up?

Are you using babelfish?

[BangorFeen]

Are you using babelfish?
Unless English is not your first language then I'm sure you were perfectly able to understand the post. Alternatively, feel free to make committee-man, jesuitical posts about grammar. They never come back to bite you in the arse.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Unless English is not your first language then I'm sure you were perfectly able to understand the post. Alternatively, feel free to make committee-man, jesuitical posts about grammar. They never come back to bite you in the arse.
I don't come on hear to decode mesages from other posters. There time might'nt be valuble, butt mien iz.

[Proinsias]

And on that note, I think we can safely say that this thread has come to an end.

Thank christ for that.

[HappyMonday83]

Hmm, this thread is ridiculous, so commenting on it might be a little pointless, but here goes.

Anyway, well done Leinster. Some good stuff this season and have been building a good scrum. They should be a great team next season if Cian Healy keeps improving and they can recruit another quality prop.

Both provinces have done well, attendance wise this season, Munster have officially sold out most of their games this season, they've had a problem with people who have season tickets not turning up. Considering every saturday that a munster home match has been on, they've had pretty much a full house attendance, I think it's fair to say that it's the problem of Munster being spread out geographically that could be part of the problem. If people from Limerick have season tickets, it's a bit of a bother for them to get down to Cork by 7.30pm for a friday evening kick off, like, for example, the 6k for the cardiff game (friday evening), connacht game (thursday evening). All the other games (bar that weird Llanelli one) have been over 7.5k out of a possible 8.3k

As far as I can tell, that Llanelli match was a combination of the world cup (the Ireland-France match was the night before, huge amount of the crowd would have been at that, there was also the England-Samoa match on at the exact same time where it was thought Samoa might win) and the match was very much a second string affair.


But, of course, this sort of detail, research, analysis and thought about Munster's attendance figures is inevitably wasted here.

So witter on, continue with "pwned", "bandwagon" and "Munstershire" and I'll go talk sport elsewhere.

I'd have expected more out of you frank. You're saying the reasons why the best supporters in the world can't turn up at magniers league games is because munster is too spread out. 9,000 people can't get to cork but come the end of may 70,000 will have no problem getting to cardiff. You also said people couldn't turn up because there was a WC game on the night before, bollix. There wasn't 8,000 munster supporters left in the country during the WC? You're reaching now, even by bandwagon standards. I've kept my favourite for last, the munstershire faithful "the best supporters in the world tm" Would rather stay and home and watch england lose a game than go watch their own team win one. Classic bandwagoning.

[Proinsias]

I'd have expected more out of you frank. You're saying the reasons why the best supporters in the world can't turn up at magniers league games is because munster is too spread out. 9,000 people can't get to cork but come the end of may 70,000 will have no problem getting to cardiff. You also said people couldn't turn up because there was a WC game on the night before, bollix. There wasn't 8,000 munster supporters left in the country during the WC? You're reaching now, even by bandwagon standards. I've kept my favourite for last, the munstershire faithful "the best supporters in the world tm" Would rather stay and home and watch england lose a game than go watch their own team win one. Classic bandwagoning.

That's not what I said at all.

But continue on as you are. Be careful though, that post contained two "Munsters" and only one "Munstershire".

Want me to explain it again so that you can ignore what I said again?

[HappyMonday83]

That's not what I said at all.

But continue on as you are. Be careful though, that post contained two "Munsters" and only one "Munstershire".

Want me to explain it again so that you can ignore what I said again?

That's exactly what you said frank. It would be hard for limerick people to get to cork on a friday night and people were watching the WC. How come leinster didn't have these problems?

[Proinsias]

That's exactly what you said frank. It would be hard for limerick people to get to cork on a friday night and people were watching the WC. How come leinster didn't have these problems?

No, that's not exactly what I said. It's a warped distortion of what I said.

I personally know a number of season ticket holders that went to Paris that weekend.

I didn't comment on Leinster because, of course, it wasn't completely relevant to that particular point.

But while you mention it, at the same time, Leinster got 9,630 supporters into the RDS for a match on at exactly the same time. That's pretty damned good, but, of course, it's an awful lot less than their usual attendance.

And here's another point. Leinster have 7,000 season ticket holders in an 18,500 capacity stadium. Munster have over 5,000 season ticket holders in an 8,300 capacity stadium.

Totally different circumstances.

[HappyMonday83]

No, that's not exactly what I said. It's a warped distortion of what I said.

I personally know a number of season ticket holders that went to Paris that weekend.

I didn't comment on Leinster because, of course, it wasn't completely relevant to that particular point.

But while you mention it, at the same time, Leinster got 9,630 supporters into the RDS for a match on at exactly the same time. That's pretty damned good, but, of course, it's an awful lot less than their usual attendance.

And here's another point. Leinster have 7,000 season ticket holders in an 18,500 capacity stadium. Munster have over 5,000 season ticket holders in an 8,300 capacity stadium.

Totally different circumstances.

Season ticket holders are the biggest bandwagoners of the lot. They'll get their ticket and only go the the H-Cup games, they might go to the disney league if the ghoys are playing the ghoys.

[Proinsias]

Season ticket holders are the biggest bandwagoners of the lot. They'll get their ticket and only go the the H-Cup games, they might go to the disney league if the ghoys are playing the ghoys.

Really?


Then how do you explain the fact that all bar 3 games have had over 7,500 attendance?

If it's only season ticket holders not going, that's still only 1/6th of them that don't go to EVERY match.
Of course, they've had plenty games where just about every season ticket holder turned up, like against Edinburgh and Dragons.

Considering the fact that Munster play a lot of games in Europe and it's split over two cities and a large geographical area, I would say that's pretty good, wouldn't you?

No, of course you wouldn't. It's bandwagoneering, Munstershire, ghoys and heino, right? That's what's important. FACTS!, not facts.

[BangorFeen]

Season ticket holders are the biggest bandwagoners of the lot. They'll get their ticket and only go the the H-Cup games, they might go to the disney league if the ghoys are playing the ghoys.
Or alternatively, get to only one HEC game and an away one at that despite going to ML games all season.

[HappyMonday83]

Really?


Then how do you explain the fact that all bar 3 games have had over 7,500 attendance?

If it's only season ticket holders not going, that's still only 1/6th of them that don't go to EVERY match.
Of course, they've had plenty games where just about every season ticket holder turned up, like against Edinburgh and Dragons.

Considering the fact that Munster play a lot of games in Europe and it's split over two cities and a large geographical area, I would say that's pretty good, wouldn't you?

No, of course you wouldn't. It's bandwagoneering, Munstershire, ghoys and heino, right? That's what's important. FACTS!, not facts.
The facts are that leinster have higher attendance's than munster, and that HC game draw far higher crowds than the disney leagues. For an average club you could accept this as the HC is a bigger competition, but for a club that constantly tells us that they have the best supporters in the world tm you should expect them the have bigger gates than the "ladyboys".

[Proinsias]

The facts are that leinster have higher attendance's than munster, and that HC game draw far higher crowds than the disney leagues. For an average club you could accept this as the HC is a bigger competition, but for a club that constantly tells us that they have the best supporters in the world tm you should expect them the have bigger gates than the "ladyboys".

Seriously, that's just distorting facts to the point of idiocy.

Right, how do you suggest Munster get a bigger attendance at their matches when Leinster have a stadium that's over twice as big?

C'mon answer me that.

It's a stupid point. Probably deliberately stupid, but stupid all the same.

[EDDIEB]

Seriously, that's just distorting facts to the point of idiocy.

Right, how do you suggest Munster get a bigger attendance at their matches when Leinster have a stadium that's over twice as big?

C'mon answer me that.

It's a stupid point. Probably deliberately stupid, but stupid all the same.

Its not the first time that this fact has been pointed out to them but what can you do ?

[HappyMonday83]

Seriously, that's just distorting facts to the point of idiocy.

Right, how do you suggest Munster get a bigger attendance at their matches when Leinster have a stadium that's over twice as big?

C'mon answer me that.

It's a stupid point. Probably deliberately stupid, but stupid all the same.

If the demand for disney league tickets was that high they'd have played their games in limmers.

[Proinsias]

If the demand for disney league tickets was that high they'd have played their games in limmers.

In the building site?

There were enough safety concerns for the Heineken Cup matches...

[BangorFeen]

If the demand for disney league tickets was that high they'd have played their games in limmers.
Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

[HappyMonday83]

In the building site?

There were enough safety concerns for the Heineken Cup matches...

As you say it was good enough for the HC why not the disney league?

[Proinsias]

As you say it was good enough for the HC why not the disney league?

It's painful, having to go over every single flipping last detail.

Christ on a bike.

Right, they only temporarily opened it (and cleared up the building site) for the HEC matches. It slowed the building somewhat, if what I'm told is right and there were more than a few safety concerns by the council, but just let it go ahead after quite a bit of work and clear up for just those home games.

It would just not have been practical from a logistical point of view to do it every second week.
Now, did I really have to type that out or were you intentionally being a pain in the hole?

Actually, don't answer that, I know the answer.

[BangorFeen]

As you say it was good enough for the HC why not the disney league?
All building work was halted at the site for (IIRC) November and January. The Fire Officer was still having kittens and capacity was cut for the post-Christmas pool games. Extrapolate that for the league now and tell me how it would have been feasible

[HappyMonday83]

It's painful, having to go over every single flipping last detail.

Christ on a bike.

Right, they only temporarily opened it (and cleared up the building site) for the HEC matches. It slowed the building somewhat, if what I'm told is right and there were more than a few safety concerns by the council, but just let it go ahead after quite a bit of work and clear up for just those home games.

It would just not have been practical from a logistical point of view to do it every second week.
Now, did I really have to type that out or were you intentionally being a pain in the hole?

Actually, don't answer that, I know the answer.

Why didn't they play the games in muzzers?

Anything to do with a higher demand for tickets maybe?

[Proinsias]

Why didn't they play the games in muzzers?

Anything to do with a higher demand for tickets maybe?

Stop being an idiot.

[HappyMonday83]

Stop being an idiot.

It was only a matter of time before the munstershire superiority complex came to the surface. If someone doesn't buy into the munster brand, they must be an idiot. :rolleyes:

[BangorFeen]

Why didn't they play the games in muzzers?

Anything to do with a higher demand for tickets maybe?
And? MP has been sold out on the basis of season tickets for much of the season. There have been large numbers of people turned away at the door on a good few occasions this year. That's lost revenue to the MB. Now, you could argue that it's poor management too given that a not inconsequential number of season ticket holders failed to show for the games but the MB weren't to know that when planning their season. Keeping the HEC games at TP meant that they were able to tap into some of this excess demand whilst maintaining exceptionally quick progress in what is a major infrastructural project.

[Proinsias]

It was only a matter of time before the munstershire superiority complex came to the surface. If someone doesn't buy into the munster brand, they must be an idiot. :rolleyes:

No, I respect your right not to follow Munster.

Complaining about the fact that you're asking a question with a bloody obvious answer is not being arrogant.

[Proinsias]

And? MP has been sold out on the basis of season tickets for much of the season. There have been large numbers of people turned away at the door on a good few occasions this year. That's lost revenue to the MB. Now, you could argue that it's poor management too given that a not inconsequential number of season ticket holders failed to show for the games but the MB weren't to know that when planning their season. Keeping the HEC games at TP meant that they were able to tap into some of this excess demand whilst maintaining exceptionally quick progress in what is a major infrastructural project.

Not really.

They've still got the revenue for a fully sold out stadium for all bar a maximum of three matches this year. Maybe all except for that Llanelli match.

Otherwise, they're essentially double selling the stadium tickets.
Which, I suppose would be nice for the coffers but is a dubious practice.

[BangorFeen]

Not really.

They've still got the revenue for a fully sold out stadium for all bar a maximum of three matches this year. Maybe all except for that Llanelli match.

Otherwise, they're essentially double selling the stadium tickets.
Which, I suppose would be nice for the coffers but is a dubious practice.

And that's a sticky one. Whilst on a conceptual level, I've no problem with it ; trying to manage it in any systematic way would be impossible though. Perhaps on that basis "lost" is overegging it but "foregone" might be a better way of describing it. All the games bar Llanelli were nominal sell-outs to the best of my knowledge.

[POL]

Lets see what these Munstershire fucktards have to offer in the white hot cauldron of Croke Park

[cantankerous bastard]

Lets see what these Munstershire fucktards have to offer in the white hot cauldron of Croke Park
*Stored for reference at a later date.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Lets see what these Munstershire fucktards have to offer in the white hot cauldron of Croke Park
If this was a hundred years ago, the munstershire lads would be turning up in an armoured car.

[captainshamrock]

If this was a hundred years ago, the munstershire lads would be turning up in an armoured car.


You do know that was made up for the movie and didn't happen in real life?
Switch off the internet for a few days and read a book.

[POL]

Arland, arland

[POL]

Some support there today for the lads, especially at the start of the second half, Munster could learn a thing or two about heart from these giants of men

[the puerto rican feen]

Fucking bandwagonners

[liam2me]

Fucking bandwagonners
yup, where were they in 2006 at LR?

plenty of jeering of kickers from them too today

[truckinhell]

Some support there today for the lads, especially at the start of the second half, Munster could learn a thing or two about heart from these giants of men

wum:lol::lol:

[delzer]

Some support there today for the lads, especially at the start of the second half, Munster could learn a thing or two about heart from these giants of men

great post

[truckinhell]

great post

wum:lol::lol:

[ho chi feen]

All building work was halted at the site for (IIRC) November and January. The Fire Officer was still having kittens and capacity was cut for the post-Christmas pool games. Extrapolate that for the league now and tell me how it would have been feasible

Can I ask, how can Leinster's higher attendances in this season's Magner's League be explained away?

Genuine question.

[captainshamrock]

This seasons figures for average attendence in the league. Would have been higher except 4 games were played in Cork

Munster 17,930
Leinster 14,727
Ulster Rugby 9,085
Cardiff Blues 8,672
Ospreys 8,405
Scarlets 7,293
Newport Gwent Dragons 6,088
Edinburgh 4,032
Glasgow Warriors 3,032
Connacht Rugby 1,989

[ho chi feen]

This seasons figures for average attendence in the league. Would have been higher except 4 games were played in Cork

Munster 17,930
Leinster 14,727
Ulster Rugby 9,085
Cardiff Blues 8,672
Ospreys 8,405
Scarlets 7,293
Newport Gwent Dragons 6,088
Edinburgh 4,032
Glasgow Warriors 3,032
Connacht Rugby 1,989

Okay, thanks.