Questions for the SFI

[#11sully]

The bandwagon. What is wrong with them? Take Munster for example. Don't ye think the team deserve one? After all they are one of, if not the best teams in europe. Their success on the pitch over the last 10 or so years has made the game bigger in Ireland. Even in International level, the performance of the Irish team is measured to that of Munster. If their success gets a few thousand more fans support them then I'd say fair dues.

If people want to join the bandwagon then more power to them. At some stage in EVERY SPORT people jump on a bandwagon. If these people create an atmosphare at a game then it makes the occation all the more entertaining. Long may they roll I say.

[Actin The Sham]

Charity post.

[#11sully]

Charity post.

How?
I just asked a question. What is wrong with a bandwagon? I'm not part of one but I would just like to know the answer to the above. Is that too much to ask of the SFI?

[POL]

Low Lie the Fields of Athenry

[Lamps]

Who the hell does this lad think he is?

If i may be so bold, you know nothing about sport

[#11sully]

Low Lie the Fields of Athenry

Do they?

[Edmund Blackwater]

Ask the Munster rugby supporters club what the club thinks of the bandwagonning fans.

[#11sully]

Who the hell does this lad think he is?

If i may be so bold, you know nothing about sport

:D
Still doesn't answer the question.

[#11sully]

Ask the Munster rugby supporters club what the club thinks of the bandwagonning fans.

OK. I'm asking the SFI.

I will ask once more. What is wrong with a bandwagon? The Munster one for that fact.

[ho chi feen]

Man, ever seen a car full of a spa family, with one of those little flags and all the occupants kitted out in head-to-toe Munstershire gear? What a truly sickening sight. I'd say half of these people couldn't even tell you what a ruck is.

[Lamps]

If you think I'm spending 5 minutes answering a question from a lad with 850 posts then you're not living on the same planet as the rest of us.

[#11sully]

5SFnvLC83ew

[#11sully]

If you think I'm spending 5 minutes answering a question from a lad with 850 posts then you're not living on the same planet as the rest of us.

Just as I thought :rolleyes: .

Avoid the question as usual with one of you stupid comments.

[Actin The Sham]

Munstershire is an example of crass commercialism: take a franchise, (in this case an entry into the Heineken "European" Rugby Cup) and build a brand around a team that can be entered into it.

Not a club with roots in the community like Cork Constitution, or Shannon, or Saracens, or Toulouse: no, invent a franchise, build a brand, and get as many people as possible to buy into the fallacy that this is somehow a "local team."


Then market the aforesaid amalgam of players from different clubs as somehow contenders for a European championship, even though only three sovereign countries, (Ireland, UK, and France) bother to compete in it, and then spew millions and millions of column inches of self congratulatory horseshit about "loyalty," and "heart," and "ordinary working men," and sprinkle liberally with cliches about "never say die," and hopefully you will convince enough people to part with enough money for you to be able to pay yourself a nice salary as a brand manger for the resultant steaming pile of horsemanure.


Hopefully a real club from a real city can smash this charade to pieces on May 24th. Toulouse exists, it is real, it has tradition, and it is not something dreamt up by a marketing guru who recognised that Limerick was too small and decided to broaden the franchise area to include the cities of Cork and Waterford in order to generate more money. Sadly, there seem to be plenty of moronic idiots living in Cork who are quite willing to be led along this road to "European Glory" blissfully unaware of just how they are being exploited.

[ho chi feen]

Munstershire is an example of crass commercialism: take a franchise, (in this case an entry into the Heineken "European" Rugby Cup) and build a brand around a team that can be entered into it.

Not a club with roots in the community like Cork Constitution, or Shannon, or Saracens, or Toulouse: no, invent a franchise, build a brand, and get as many people as possible to buy into the fallacy that this is somehow a "local team."


Then market the aforesaid amalgam of players from different clubs as somehow contenders for a European championship, even though only three sovereign countries, (Ireland, UK, and France) bother to compete in it, and then spew millions and millions of column inches of self congratulatory horseshit about "loyalty," and "heart," and "ordinary working men," and sprinkle liberally with cliches about "never say die," and hopefully you will convince enough people to part with enough money for you to be able to pay yourself a nice salary as a brand manger for the resultant steaming pile of horsemanure.


Hopefully a real club from a real city can smash this charade to pieces on May 24th. Toulouse exists, it is real, it has tradition, and it is not something dreamt up by a marketing guru who recognised that Limerick was too small and decided to broaden the franchise area to include the cities of Cork and Waterford in order to generate more money. Sadly, there seem to be plenty of moronic idiots living in Cork who are quite willing to be led along this road to "European Glory" blissfully unaware of just how they are being exploited.

Post of the week.

[Edmund Blackwater]

Munstershire is an example of crass commercialism: take a franchise, (in this case an entry into the Heineken "European" Rugby Cup) and build a brand around a team that can be entered into it.

Not a club with roots in the community like Cork Constitution, or Shannon, or Saracens, or Toulouse: no, invent a franchise, build a brand, and get as many people as possible to buy into the fallacy that this is somehow a "local team."


Then market the aforesaid amalgam of players from different clubs as somehow contenders for a European championship, even though only three sovereign countries, (Ireland, UK, and France) bother to compete in it, and then spew millions and millions of column inches of self congratulatory horseshit about "loyalty," and "heart," and "ordinary working men," and sprinkle liberally with cliches about "never say die," and hopefully you will convince enough people to part with enough money for you to be able to pay yourself a nice salary as a brand manger for the resultant steaming pile of horsemanure.


Hopefully a real club from a real city can smash this charade to pieces on May 24th. Toulouse exists, it is real, it has tradition, and it is not something dreamt up by a marketing guru who recognised that Limerick was too small and decided to broaden the franchise area to include the cities of Cork and Waterford in order to generate more money. Sadly, there seem to be plenty of moronic idiots living in Cork who are quite willing to be led along this road to "European Glory" blissfully unaware of just how they are being exploited.


That's some nice work right there.

[POL]

Post of the week.Post of the year thus far, Prionsias, Eddieb and the rest of the diehards won't like it though

[ho chi feen]

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[Coin]

Ask the Munster rugby supporters club what the club thinks of the bandwagonning fans.
Probably the same thing the 5 lads and 1 lass who went to all the Cork football league matches will think of all the bandwagoners grabbing tickets when Cork and Kerry run into each other in the Munster championship.

[Lamps]

Munstershire is an example of crass commercialism: take a franchise, (in this case an entry into the Heineken "European" Rugby Cup) and build a brand around a team that can be entered into it.

Not a club with roots in the community like Cork Constitution, or Shannon, or Saracens, or Toulouse: no, invent a franchise, build a brand, and get as many people as possible to buy into the fallacy that this is somehow a "local team."


Then market the aforesaid amalgam of players from different clubs as somehow contenders for a European championship, even though only three sovereign countries, (Ireland, UK, and France) bother to compete in it, and then spew millions and millions of column inches of self congratulatory horseshit about "loyalty," and "heart," and "ordinary working men," and sprinkle liberally with cliches about "never say die," and hopefully you will convince enough people to part with enough money for you to be able to pay yourself a nice salary as a brand manger for the resultant steaming pile of horsemanure.


Hopefully a real club from a real city can smash this charade to pieces on May 24th. Toulouse exists, it is real, it has tradition, and it is not something dreamt up by a marketing guru who recognised that Limerick was too small and decided to broaden the franchise area to include the cities of Cork and Waterford in order to generate more money. Sadly, there seem to be plenty of moronic idiots living in Cork who are quite willing to be led along this road to "European Glory" blissfully unaware of just how they are being exploited.

Get in the hole, back of the net, one hundred and eeeeeighty

Top notch stuff Nimic. I'd vote for you anyway.

The Cork party needs to be up and running for the local elections

[dancefreak2003]

Munstershire is an example of crass commercialism: take a franchise, (in this case an entry into the Heineken "European" Rugby Cup) and build a brand around a team that can be entered into it.

Not a club with roots in the community like Cork Constitution, or Shannon, or Saracens, or Toulouse: no, invent a franchise, build a brand, and get as many people as possible to buy into the fallacy that this is somehow a "local team."


Then market the aforesaid amalgam of players from different clubs as somehow contenders for a European championship, even though only three sovereign countries, (Ireland, UK, and France) bother to compete in it, and then spew millions and millions of column inches of self congratulatory horseshit about "loyalty," and "heart," and "ordinary working men," and sprinkle liberally with cliches about "never say die," and hopefully you will convince enough people to part with enough money for you to be able to pay yourself a nice salary as a brand manger for the resultant steaming pile of horsemanure.


Hopefully a real club from a real city can smash this charade to pieces on May 24th. Toulouse exists, it is real, it has tradition, and it is not something dreamt up by a marketing guru who recognised that Limerick was too small and decided to broaden the franchise area to include the cities of Cork and Waterford in order to generate more money. Sadly, there seem to be plenty of moronic idiots living in Cork who are quite willing to be led along this road to "European Glory" blissfully unaware of just how they are being exploited.

In fairness didn't the provincial teams exist way before the professional era of Irish rugby.

Italian teams also complete in the competition, and no other country in europe has the quality to match the current teams in the european cup.
Otherwise you'd end up with games akin to those in the Rugby World Cup where teams are beaten out the gap.

[Lamps]

ps I'm sure some smart Alec will say Italy "compete" too. But do they? Do they really?

[#11sully]

Munstershire is an example of crass commercialism: take a franchise, (in this case an entry into the Heineken "European" Rugby Cup) and build a brand around a team that can be entered into it.

Not a club with roots in the community like Cork Constitution, or Shannon, or Saracens, or Toulouse: no, invent a franchise, build a brand, and get as many people as possible to buy into the fallacy that this is somehow a "local team."


Then market the aforesaid amalgam of players from different clubs as somehow contenders for a European championship, even though only three sovereign countries, (Ireland, UK, and France) bother to compete in it, and then spew millions and millions of column inches of self congratulatory horseshit about "loyalty," and "heart," and "ordinary working men," and sprinkle liberally with cliches about "never say die," and hopefully you will convince enough people to part with enough money for you to be able to pay yourself a nice salary as a brand manger for the resultant steaming pile of horsemanure.


Hopefully a real club from a real city can smash this charade to pieces on May 24th. Toulouse exists, it is real, it has tradition, and it is not something dreamt up by a marketing guru who recognised that Limerick was too small and decided to broaden the franchise area to include the cities of Cork and Waterford in order to generate more money. Sadly, there seem to be plenty of moronic idiots living in Cork who are quite willing to be led along this road to "European Glory" blissfully unaware of just how they are being exploited.

First of all Munster is NOT a franchise. It is backed by the IRFU.
Munster rugby branch was formed in 1879.
It started off as a representitive team of clubs in the province much like the local gaa clubs around cork and other counties which feed the county teams. It has grown with advent of the professional game into the glorious bandwagon we see all over europe today.

[POL]

In fairness didn't the provincial teams exist way before the professional era of Irish rugby.

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Yeah, and the Cork and Limerick lads couldn't stand each other

[Actin The Sham]

In fairness didn't the provincial teams exist way before the professional era of Irish rugby.

Italian teams also complete in the competition, and no other country in europe has the quality to match the current teams in the european cup.
Otherwise you'd end up with games akin to those in the Rugby World Cup where teams are beaten out the gap.

Remind me again of the number of countries that compete in this "world cup?"


The provincial teams competed against each other in the past. That was fair enough, it was like the Railway Cup. But the new professional branded game has created a monster that needs more and more money in order to feed itself.

That's why Munstershire plays its home games in Limerick and it's reserve matches in Cork: fool more people, make more money.

[POL]

The Munstershire Lackeys in the media try to keep driving this thing about the great bond between the team, what a load of fucking shite

[#11sully]

Yeah, and the Cork and Limerick lads couldn't stand each other

And thats how they beat the all blacks and the aussies :rolleyes: .

[Actin The Sham]

First of all Munster is NOT a franchise. It is backed by the IRFU.
Munster rugby branch was formed in 1879.
It started off as a representitive team of clubs in the province much like the local gaa clubs around cork and other counties which feed the county teams. It has grown with advent of the professional game into the glorious bandwagon we see all over europe today.

Europe is more then Ireland, the UK, bits of Italy and bits of France.

Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Switzerland, Greece, etc. etc. ......

[Coin]

Yeah, and the Cork and Limerick lads couldn't stand each other
They've matured as a province.

[POL]

And thats how they beat the all blacks and the aussies :rolleyes: .big swinging mickey, I'd say Castlemartyr would have beating the Aussie and All Black c teams who were on the piss for a week before hand FFS

[Actin The Sham]

And thats how they beat the all blacks and the aussies :rolleyes: .

The All Blacks fielded their reserve team for a midweek game against an interprovincial side during their tour in 1978 when they beat all four home countries to complete a grand slam.


Munstershire supporters wrote a play about it, and went on to milk it for every penny.


The Thunder & Lightning final between Cork & Kilkenny (even though we lost) was a far far better sporting occasion by all accounts.

[#11sully]

big swinging mickey, I'd say Castlemartyr would have beating the Aussie and All Black c teams who were on the piss for a week before hand FFS

Yawn....

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question.

What is wrong with a bandwagon?

[EDDIEB]

Europe is more then Ireland, the UK, bits of Italy and bits of France.

Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Switzerland, Greece, etc. etc. ......

What do you want Munster to do now ?

Hockey teams from Greece and Sweden ?

Are AC Milan rubbish because they do not beat Cobh Ramblers ?

Utter small time cack.

[EDDIEB]

.


The Thunder & Lightning final between Cork & Kilkenny (even though we lost) was a far far better sporting occasion by all accounts.


Yes great amazing game agreed.

Hurling Played for a few months of the year in Ireland - nowhere else.

7 or 8 counties are only any good at it don't even mention Gaelic football which is drivel for madmen.


Tons of people follow both Rugby in the winter/spring and Hurling during the summer months.

Why not set up some more false oppositions ?

[Actin The Sham]

What do you want Munster to do now ?

Hockey teams from Greece and Sweden ?

Are AC Milan rubbish because they do not beat Cobh Ramblers ?

Utter small time cack.


Small time?

I'd say calling a tournament that pits rugby clubs from the UK, southwestern France, and bits of Italy against an amalgam of clubs that represent provinces in Ireland is even more small time.

What if London (made up of Chelsea, Arsenal, West Ham and Tottenham Hotspur) came together to compete against Galatasaray in the UEFA Champions League?

Then having annihilated them, they all went home and played against each other the following week?

That would be a better analogy.

[Lamps]

What do you want Munster to do now ?

Hockey teams from Greece and Sweden ?

Are AC Milan rubbish because they do not beat Cobh Ramblers ?

Utter small time cack.

Aren't you the lad who didn't know who Davey Tweed was?

Something very fishy about all this, just how long are you following rugby Eddie?


Don't make me say "answer the question Eddie"

[#11sully]

The All Blacks fielded their reserve team for a midweek game against an interprovincial side during their tour in 1978 when they beat all four home countries to complete a grand slam.


Munstershire supporters wrote a play about it, and went on to milk it for every penny.


The Thunder & Lightning final between Cork & Kilkenny (even though we lost) was a far far better sporting occasion by all accounts.

If a player is selected to play for the ABs then they must have been worthy to wear that sacred jersey. For a province team to beat (without a doubt) the best team in the world and hold them scoreless is some achievment by anyones standards.

[Lamps]

Yes great amazing game agreed.

Hurling Played for a few months of the year in Ireland - nowhere else.

7 or 8 counties are only any good at it don't even mention Gaelic football which is drivel for madmen.


Tons of people follow both Rugby in the winter/spring and Hurling during the summer months.

Why not set up some more false oppositions ?

hence the name all ireland eddie

[Actin The Sham]

If a player is selected to play for the ABs then they must have been worthy to wear that sacred jersey. For a province team to beat (without a doubt) the best team in the world and hold them scoreless is some achievment by anyones standards.

It's a minority code. Most of the world don't even know it exists. Just keep things in perspective: Limerick is too small to finance a professional rugby team, so they need the money from the "fans" in Cork to pay for it.

This "European" escapade is a drain of resources from the rebel county into the coffers of the University of Limerick, and Thomond Park. The sooner this Munstershire myth that would have us all as one is shattered the better.

[scrumpy]

First of all Munster is NOT a franchise. It is backed by the IRFU.
Munster rugby branch was formed in 1879.
It started off as a representitive team of clubs in the province much like the local gaa clubs around cork and other counties which feed the county teams. It has grown with advent of the professional game into the glorious bandwagon we see all over europe today.


Munster older than the GAA???:rolleyes:

[Rebelred]

Munstershire is an example of crass commercialism: take a franchise, (in this case an entry into the Heineken "European" Rugby Cup) and build a brand around a team that can be entered into it.

Not a club with roots in the community like Cork Constitution, or Shannon, or Saracens, or Toulouse: no, invent a franchise, build a brand, and get as many people as possible to buy into the fallacy that this is somehow a "local team."


Then market the aforesaid amalgam of players from different clubs as somehow contenders for a European championship, even though only three sovereign countries, (Ireland, UK, and France) bother to compete in it, and then spew millions and millions of column inches of self congratulatory horseshit about "loyalty," and "heart," and "ordinary working men," and sprinkle liberally with cliches about "never say die," and hopefully you will convince enough people to part with enough money for you to be able to pay yourself a nice salary as a brand manger for the resultant steaming pile of horsemanure.


Hopefully a real club from a real city can smash this charade to pieces on May 24th. Toulouse exists, it is real, it has tradition, and it is not something dreamt up by a marketing guru who recognised that Limerick was too small and decided to broaden the franchise area to include the cities of Cork and Waterford in order to generate more money. Sadly, there seem to be plenty of moronic idiots living in Cork who are quite willing to be led along this road to "European Glory" blissfully unaware of just how they are being exploited.
nail on the head!

anybody able to pull up Kola's post which defined everything wrong about the Munstershire bandwagon?

[#11sully]

It's a minority code. Most of the world don't even know it exists. Just keep things in perspective: Limerick is too small to finance a professional rugby team, so they need the money from the "fans" in Cork to pay for it.

This "European" escapade is a drain of resources from the rebel county into the coffers of the University of Limerick, and Thomond Park. The sooner this Munstershire myth that would have us all as one is shattered the better.

But your not part of it. Or are you:twisted:

[Actin The Sham]

But your not part of it. Or are you:twisted:

Not part of this munstershire franchise, no. I prefer to support local teams and local clubs.

Not some money machine 100 kms up the road in Limerick.

[EDDIEB]

Aren't you the lad who didn't know who Davey Tweed was?

Something very fishy about all this, just how long are you following rugby Eddie?


Don't make me say "answer the question Eddie"

Since I was a nipper !

Just because I don not know who some loyalist nutjob was as I was living in the states at the time means something then carry on.

[#11sully]

Not part of this munstershire franchise, no. I prefer to support local teams and local clubs.

Not some money machine 100 kms up the road in Limerick.

zOGAAlHzF4o

ATS keeping it local :D

[Edmund Blackwater]

Munstershire have been very lucky. The advent of professional rugby coincided with the rise of the Celtic Tiger. Suddenly everyone was keeping up with the Girvans and what better way to do it than to follow rugby, the game of the nobs. Social climbers everywhere got into rugby and needed a team to follow.
Shannon, meh. Cork con, meh. We need a more international brand to flaunt our new found wealth.
Munstershire play in Europe.
OK, but are they successful enough...I can't be associated with a team of losers, I'd be laughed out of the Shelbourne.
They've reached a few semi finals and look like they may be successful soon.
So, I could say I got in at the ground floor?
erm, yeah, why not.
Now is there anything I need to know about them to prove I'm a die-hard?
They beat the all-blacks back in the day.
I didn't know there were enough wealthy blacks to form a team.
No, the all-blacks, new zealand the best team in the world don't ye know.
Oh right. Erm, I was there.
Do you know the rules?
No, I imagine I'll pick them up as i go along.
*speeds off in a polished 4x4*

[POL]

Davy Tweed was a well known rogby player

[scrumpy]

Munstershire have been very lucky. The advent of professional rugby coincided with the rise of the Celtic Tiger. Suddenly everyone was keeping up with the Girvans and what better way to do it than to follow rugby, the game of the nobs. Social climbers everywhere got into rugby and needed a team to follow.
Shannon, meh. Cork con, meh. We need a more international brand to flaunt our new found wealth.
Munstershire play in Europe.
OK, but are they successful enough...I can't be associated with a team of losers, I'd be laughed out of the Shelbourne.
They've reached a few semi finals and look like they may be successful soon.
So, I could say I got in at the ground floor?
erm, yeah, why not.
Now is there anything I need to know about them to prove I'm a die-hard?
They beat the all-blacks back in the day.
I didn't know there were enough wealthy blacks to form a team.
No, the all-blacks, new zealand the best team in the world don't ye know.
Oh right. Erm, I was there.
Do you know the rules?
No, I imagine I'll pick them up as i go along.
*speeds off in a polished 4x4*

nail. head. hit

[EDDIEB]

Hopefully a real club from a real city can smash this charade to pieces on May 24th. Toulouse exists, it is real, it has tradition, and it is not something dreamt up by a marketing guru..

Seeing as Munster won it in 2006 what charade is that now ?

In the group stage this year we have knocked out the English & French champions elect.

Both Cork and Limerick are'nt real cities that is correct - but what are you going to do ?

Are you going to tell people what to like and do next ?

Eh ?

[legend76]

Small time?

I'd say calling a tournament that pits rugby clubs from the UK, southwestern France, and bits of Italy against an amalgam of clubs that represent provinces in Ireland is even more small time.

What if London (made up of Chelsea, Arsenal, West Ham and Tottenham Hotspur) came together to compete against Galatasaray in the UEFA Champions League?

Then having annihilated them, they all went home and played against each other the following week?

That would be a better analogy.

great analogy


London side to play Sporting Lisbon :


Cech

Sagna Carvalho Toure Bale


J. Cole Lampard Fabergas Ljungberg


Berbatov Drogba


subs Terry,Woodgate, Adebayor, Lennon, Essien

[3pointplay]

If you think I'm spending 5 minutes answering a question from a lad with 850 posts then you're not living on the same planet as the rest of us.What has a post count got to do with the question?

[Eoin]

great analogy



How is it a great analogy? Its a fuckign rubbish analogy.

[Coin]

I have little interest in, and feck all knowledge of Cork City football club, so I don't know this: Were they a local club that expanded enough to be able to step up to the national league or were they formed to go straight in at that level?

[legend76]

How is it a great analogy? Its a fuckign rubbish analogy.

how is it rubbish??? serious question

p.s. I'd probably play Modric instead of Ljungberg

[xvis]

how is it rubbish??? serious question

It's a poor analogy because one is selecting players from amateur clubs to form a professional side to take on another professional side, and the other is not.



..Munster got a break in the shake-up that was professionalism coming into rugby.


..and rugby is still a sham of a game.

[cit_gym_rat]

If you think I'm spending 5 minutes answering a question from a lad with 850 posts then you're not living on the same planet as the rest of us.
lamps didnt you once say post counts were ghey?

[Lamps]

lamps didnt you once say post counts were ghey?

whoosh

[#11sully]

whoosh

You sill haven't answered the question. What is wrong with a bandwagon?
If there is 50000 bandwagoners in Cardiff on the 24th may and they roar Munster to victory then more power to them. A simple question and you can't even answer it. I was only using Munster as an example but it is the same with anyone, Man u, Liverpool, Chelsea, FFS even the gaa teams have bandwagoners when they are winning.

[Rebel Yell]

You sill haven't answered the question. What is wrong with a bandwagon?
If there is 50000 bandwagoners in Cardiff on the 24th may and they roar Munster to victory then more power to them. A simple question and you can't even answer it. I was only using Munster as an example but it is the same with anyone, Man u, Liverpool, Chelsea, FFS even the gaa teams have bandwagoners when they are winning.

The SFI are not mature enough to admit that bandwagons can be good for sport...

[Lamps]

You sill haven't answered the question. What is wrong with a bandwagon?
If there is 50000 bandwagoners in Cardiff on the 24th may and they roar Munster to victory then more power to them. A simple question and you can't even answer it. I was only using Munster as an example but it is the same with anyone, Man u, Liverpool, Chelsea, FFS even the gaa teams have bandwagoners when they are winning.

You need to clam down mr less than 900 posts

[Fr. Turncoat]

If you think I'm spending 5 minutes answering a question from a lad with 850 posts then you're not living on the same planet as the rest of us.

This post just about sums you and your lot up. do you ever read your posts? you sure do come across as a tosser.
When anyone puts forward any question which challenges you, you just have to resort to idiotic posts like above.
A sad little man.

[#11sully]

This post just about sums you and your lot up. do you ever read your posts? you sure do come across as a tosser.
When anyone puts forward any question which challenges you, you just have to resort to idiotic posts like above.
A sad little man.

I think the sfi know that bandwagons are good for sport but won't admit it. If it wasn't rugby or soccer it could be anything else. Look at the cricket last year. The whole country was buzzing for two week over a sport that we had very little interest in but it still created a good atmosphere around the place. It also gave people some other topic to talk about other than the rugby, soccer, gaa, etc...

[Lamps]

This post just about sums you and your lot up. do you ever read your posts? you sure do come across as a tosser.
When anyone puts forward any question which challenges you, you just have to resort to idiotic posts like above.
A sad little man.

where's my comb?

playing favourites are we?

[#11sully]

You need to clam down mr less than 900 posts

you were closer with your first pridiction of 850 posts. I sence a little bit of rattlement in your post dear boy.

[Lamps]

I think the sfi know that bandwagons are good for sport but won't admit it. If it wasn't rugby or soccer it could be anything else. Look at the cricket last year. The whole country was buzzing for two week over a sport that we had very little interest in but it still created a good atmosphere around the place. It also gave people some other topic to talk about other than the rugby, soccer, gaa, etc...

Did you get your commerative Ryder cup ski jacket too?

[Lamps]

you were closer with your first pridiction of 850 posts. I sence a little bit of rattlement in your post dear boy.

I'm only bobbing and weaving lad.

Quite busy in work you see, some of us have jobs.

[#11sully]

Did you get your commerative Ryder cup ski jacket too?

No. I got a hat.

[POL]

where's my comb?

playing favourites are we?do you comb to the left or the right lamps?

[#11sully]

I'm only bobbing and weaving lad.

Quite busy in work you see, some of us have jobs.

This still hasn't stopped you from having 11 posts on this thread and god knows how many more on other threads. Lame answer even for you.

BTW I also have a job.

[Fr. Turncoat]

where's my comb?

playing favourites are we?

Pol must have dropped it.
Come here - one question - while you are clearly the guy with the longest hair - does that allow you to edit HM83's posts? And one more, do you get jealous when they start combing the mane of that high horse of yours?

[#11sully]

Pol must have dropped it.
Come here - one question - while you are clearly the guy with the longest hair - does that allow you to edit HM83's posts? And one more, do you get jealous when they start combing the mane of that high horse of yours?

:lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

[HappyMonday83]

I think the sfi know that bandwagons are good for sport but won't admit it. If it wasn't rugby or soccer it could be anything else. Look at the cricket last year. The whole country was buzzing for two week over a sport that we had very little interest in but it still created a good atmosphere around the place. It also gave people some other topic to talk about other than the rugby, soccer, gaa, etc...

I just can't believe what i'm reading here. "Bandwagons are good for sport" they're about as good as mining was to wales.

[cantankerous bastard]

Munstershire is an example of crass commercialism: take a franchise, (in this case an entry into the Heineken "European" Rugby Cup) and build a brand around a team that can be entered into it.

Not a club with roots in the community like Cork Constitution, or Shannon, or Saracens, or Toulouse: no, invent a franchise, build a brand, and get as many people as possible to buy into the fallacy that this is somehow a "local team."


Then market the aforesaid amalgam of players from different clubs as somehow contenders for a European championship, even though only three sovereign countries, (Ireland, UK, and France) bother to compete in it, and then spew millions and millions of column inches of self congratulatory horseshit about "loyalty," and "heart," and "ordinary working men," and sprinkle liberally with cliches about "never say die," and hopefully you will convince enough people to part with enough money for you to be able to pay yourself a nice salary as a brand manger for the resultant steaming pile of horsemanure.


Hopefully a real club from a real city can smash this charade to pieces on May 24th. Toulouse exists, it is real, it has tradition, and it is not something dreamt up by a marketing guru who recognised that Limerick was too small and decided to broaden the franchise area to include the cities of Cork and Waterford in order to generate more money. Sadly, there seem to be plenty of moronic idiots living in Cork who are quite willing to be led along this road to "European Glory" blissfully unaware of just how they are being exploited.


post of the week??

The biggest rugby playing nations of europe are in the european cup, england, wales, scotland, ireland, france and italy. Nothing would make me happier than to have more european nations in there but I support a smaller sport than footay so I have to make do with that.

This season has seen incredible competition and cracking matches in a number of pools, many sanzar players now see it as a better competition than they have and if you agree with that sentiment its the best rugby club tournament in the world. Its nowhere near the size of the likes of the champions league but thats just a fact of the differing size of interest in the game.

And all of this marketing munster is complete horseshite. I play for a club in the UK, I've seen first hand at this, once prestigious, club how mismanaging the changeover to professionalism destroyed many clubs in england, with only a handful turning in to real big professional clubs.

Ireland had a choice, we would never have been able to compete with the other big clubs if we stuck to the local teams because there are so few top quality players here relative to other nations, so we regionalised. It has been a massive, massive success and one that has brough the game to unprecedented heights in Munster and Ireland.

If you want to be a cynical old fart about it then off with you, but when you look at how well we have managed the switch to professionalism I think its something to be praised.

[Proinsias]

Yawn. Usual wumming.

ATS, you've got at least 6 points wrong so far in this thread.

Anyway, off you pop to support the uncorporate Toulouse. Maybe you could pick up a jersey in their superstore, the first such one in Europe.

Maybe you might meet a few of the local players there, Kelleher, Ahotaeiloa, Perugini. See how their vineyards are getting on and if they've any special recipes for cassoulet from their mamas...

[#11sully]

I just can't believe what i'm reading here. "Bandwagons are good for sport" they're about as good as mining was to wales.

Well then can you tell us how they are bad?

[Actin The Sham]

post of the week??

The biggest rugby playing nations of europe are in the european cup, england, wales, scotland, ireland, france and italy. Nothing would make me happier than to have more european nations in there but I support a smaller sport than footay so I have to make do with that.

This season has seen incredible competition and cracking matches in a number of pools, many sanzar players now see it as a better competition than they have and if you agree with that sentiment its the best rugby club tournament in the world. Its nowhere near the size of the likes of the champions league but thats just a fact of the differing size of interest in the game.

And all of this marketing munster is complete horseshite. I play for a club in the UK, I've seen first hand at this, once prestigious, club how mismanaging the changeover to professionalism destroyed many clubs in england, with only a handful turning in to real big professional clubs.

Ireland had a choice, we would never have been able to compete with the other big clubs if we stuck to the local teams because there are so few top quality players here relative to other nations, so we regionalised. It has been a massive, massive success and one that has brough the game to unprecedented heights in Munster and Ireland.

If you want to be a cynical old fart about it then off with you, but when you look at how well we have managed the switch to professionalism I think its something to be praised.

1. England, Wales, and Scotland are one country: the UK.

2. "So we regionalised." How did we tell people that we "were regionalising?" By advertising on TV, by deciding to have two "home venues," one for first team matches , Thomond Park, and one for reserve matches, Musgrave Park. So, as you say it, we decided to ditch the local teams, in order to buy success, and build a bandwagon upon which all the "Greatest Fans In The World (tm)" could clamber and ditch local pride, and buy into a marketing franchise. Now, call me cynical, but that is a monumental display of cynicism: we won't be able to compete with other teams from bigger cities so we will have to abandon all semblance of local teams and come up with a new concept that will give us enough money to market the brand effectively.

As soon as the current contract with the French clubs is over, the ERC will cease to exist, the French and some of the English clubs are only still in it under threat of legal action, as well you know.

[Proinsias]

1. England, Wales, and Scotland are one country: the UK.

2. "So we regionalised." How did we tell people that we "were regionalising?" By advertising on TV, by deciding to have two "home venues," one for first team matches , Thomond Park, and one for reserve matches, Musgrave Park. So, as you say it, we decided to ditch the local teams, in order to buy success, and build a bandwagon upon which all the "Greatest Fans In The World (tm)" could clamber and ditch local pride, and buy into a marketing franchise. Now, call me cynical, but that is a monumental display of cynicism: we won't be able to compete with other teams from bigger cities so we will have to abandon all semblance of local teams and come up with a new concept that will give us enough money to market the brand effectively.

As soon as the current contract with the French clubs is over, the ERC will cease to exist, the French and some of the English clubs are only still in it under threat of legal action, as well you know.

Rubbish.

[Actin The Sham]

Yawn. Usual wumming.

ATS, you've got at least 6 points wrong so far in this thread.

Anyway, off you pop to support the uncorporate Toulouse. Maybe you could pick up a jersey in their superstore, the first such one in Europe.

Maybe you might meet a few of the local players there, Kelleher, Ahotaeiloa, Perugini. See how their vineyards are getting on and if they've any special recipes for cassoulet from their mamas...

Cassoulet was popularised by the French Foreign Legion in Castelnaudry, as well you know. And where do most of the legionnaires come from? That's right, all over the world.

Cassoulet originated in the rousillon region, before Toulouse was moved into the Midi Pyrenees region even though it is still naturally recognised as the capital of the Languedoc Rousillon region, despite the claims of Montpellier.

I will be supporting Toulouse for many reasons, not least my close connections to the area.

If Cork were playing Toulouse it might be different, but no way will I support Limerick (Munstershire.)

[HappyMonday83]

Well then can you tell us how they are bad?

It's fairly obvious.

[cantankerous bastard]

ATS has made one fundamentally stupid mistake, and that is trying to put together some crap attack on a sport because it is a smaller world sport than another.

Football is the big world game. Its not for everyone. I for one think its boring shite, played by a bunch of pansys who fall about if someone sneezes at them and played in ridiculously bad temprement where cheeky shit players assault refs and officials from start to finish.

Rugby is a much smaller game globally. I happen to love it. I've never been a fan of gaa, though I respect it, but the main thing for me as a kid was my favourite thing was watching Ireland play (and hopefully beat) England. The lack of international competition in gaa reduced my interest in it.

Rugby wil always be a smaller game than football, but to see how its grown since I was a kid is great. We have better club tournaments and IRB investment in smaller nations really being counted at the world cup (fiji knocked out wales, tonga were one bounce of a ball from beating S.A, Georgia one huge tackle from beating Ireland).

I would love to see the game continue to grow, to have a 2 tier 6 nations with promotion and relegation and see the european cup expand into emerging nations.

Will have to see if that comes to pass, but for now I am more than happy with the competitions we have. This year Munster have seen off great French teams (clermont), the best of England (wasps, gloucester, sarries) and have now earned through the hardest possible route another ticket to the final to play the best and most successful team in the tournament's history.

Its a dream final for a great year of the tournament.

[gregson1]

while working on Sunday during the munstershire game all I heard was people shouting "GO ON DUGGY" and "C'MON MUNSTER"... so being the cocky little shit that I was I asked to raise your hand if you're from munster... one person did so from a group of about 12... some were from longford ffs... bandwagon jumping of the highest order..

[Proinsias]

Cassoulet was popularised by the French Foreign Legion in Castelnaudry, as well you know. And where do most of the legionnaires come from? That's right, all over the world.

Cassoulet originated in the rousillon region, before Toulouse was moved into the Midi Pyrenees region even though it is still naturally recognised as the capital of the Languedoc Rousillon region, despite the claims of Montpellier.

I will be supporting Toulouse for many reasons, not least my close connections to the area.

If Cork were playing Toulouse it might be different, but no way will I support Limerick (Munstershire.)

So, want to venture a guess on how many club teams in Munster are older than the Munster team?

Toulouse are the most efficient corporate machine in the Heineken Cup. Or, for you frenchies, the H-Cup.

[Actin The Sham]

ATS has made one fundamentally stupid mistake, and that is trying to put together some crap attack on a sport because it is a smaller world sport than another.

Football is the big world game. Its not for everyone. I for one think its boring shite, played by a bunch of pansys who fall about if someone sneezes at them and played in ridiculously bad temprement where cheeky shit players assault refs and officials from start to finish.

Rugby is a much smaller game globally. I happen to love it. I've never been a fan of gaa, though I respect it, but the main thing for me as a kid was my favourite thing was watching Ireland play (and hopefully beat) England. The lack of international competition in gaa reduced my interest in it.

Rugby wil always be a smaller game than football, but to see how its grown since I was a kid is great. We have better club tournaments and IRB investment in smaller nations really being counted at the world cup (fiji knocked out wales, tonga were one bounce of a ball from beating S.A, Georgia one huge tackle from beating Ireland).

I would love to see the game continue to grow, to have a 2 tier 6 nations with promotion and relegation and see the european cup expand into emerging nations.

Will have to see if that comes to pass, but for now I am more than happy with the competitions we have. This year Munster have seen off great French teams (clermont), the best of England (wasps, gloucester, sarries) and have now earned through the hardest possible route another ticket to the final to play the best and most successful team in the tournament's history.

Its a dream final for a great year of the tournament.


Why not "regionalise" it further and allow Wales, (a region of the UK) enter next year? Maybe that way they will be guaranteed success against clubs representing towns and cities across south western France, and The Greatest Fans In The World (tm) back here can further delude themselves that this means more to people in Beziers, Montpellier Toulouse and Biarritz then the Super 14?

[#11sully]

It's fairly obvious.

See this is a typical sfi answer. Just words no facts. I thought the sfi only dealt with facts? Then show me some facts.

[cantankerous bastard]

1. England, Wales, and Scotland are one country: the UK.

2. "So we regionalised." How did we tell people that we "were regionalising?" By advertising on TV, by deciding to have two "home venues," one for first team matches , Thomond Park, and one for reserve matches, Musgrave Park. So, as you say it, we decided to ditch the local teams, in order to buy success, and build a bandwagon upon which all the "Greatest Fans In The World (tm)" could clamber and ditch local pride, and buy into a marketing franchise. Now, call me cynical, but that is a monumental display of cynicism: we won't be able to compete with other teams from bigger cities so we will have to abandon all semblance of local teams and come up with a new concept that will give us enough money to market the brand effectively.

As soon as the current contract with the French clubs is over, the ERC will cease to exist, the French and some of the English clubs are only still in it under threat of legal action, as well you know.


The UK point is pretty lame, Rugby is a pretty different story in Wales as it is in Scotland for example. To say there is not 3 unique teams there is crap.

The club/province structure is not perfect but it provides a pipeline of players,, play for your club, get to your province, get to the national side. What would you suggest as an alternative? In case you havent noticed soccer is a fucking disaster here, with any player worth his salt fucking off abroad for the price of a bag of crisps.

That rugby has kept the maority of the talented players at home is great. That a kid playing rugby at 10 as I was can now see players that grew up near them on sky sports beating the best of France and England and think 'if I work my hole off I could get there' is great.

I find your attitude backward and boring. But off with you, as I said in another thread you know munster are doing well when the hate bandwagon picks up steam at the same time as the in it for the final bandwagon.

Ye all sort of cancel each other out.

[Lamps]

do you comb to the left or the right lamps?

Come to the right for Mass on Sundays, the rest of the week I'm a leftie :lol!:

[Actin The Sham]

So, want to venture a guess on how many club teams in Munster are older than the Munster team?

Toulouse are the most efficient corporate machine in the Heineken Cup. Or, for you frenchies, the H-Cup.

How about provinces play against each other?

How about Languedoc-Rousillon against Munster?

How about that then?

How would the mighty Munstershiremen complete with "The Greatest Fans In The World (tm)" feel about that?

Or would the vast majority of them even know where Languedoc Rousillon is on a map?

[EDDIEB]

Cassoulet was popularised by the French Foreign Legion in Castelnaudry, as well you know. And where do most of the legionnaires come from? That's right, all over the world.

Cassoulet originated in the rousillon region, before Toulouse was moved into the Midi Pyrenees region even though it is still naturally recognised as the capital of the Languedoc Rousillon region, despite the claims of Montpellier.

I will be supporting Toulouse for many reasons, not least my close connections to the area.

If Cork were playing Toulouse it might be different, but no way will I support Limerick (Munstershire.)

Utter Fuckwittery.

My family is from La Rochelle and spend lots of time there and having been born and grown up in Ireland its daft and pure Cork inward small time self loathing to support the opposition.

17 of the 22 team panel are from Munster.

Only 13 of the Toulouse 22 were from the area.

Typical Cork Cack.

[Lamps]

See this is a typical sfi answer. Just words no facts. I thought the sfi only dealt with facts? Then show me some facts.

here are two

Fact

FACT

[Actin The Sham]

The UK point is pretty lame, Rugby is a pretty different story in Wales as it is in Scotland for example. To say there is not 3 unique teams there is crap.

The club/province structure is not perfect but it provides a pipeline of players,, play for your club, get to your province, get to the national side. What would you suggest as an alternative?

Get to the "National" side? So that you can walk out on to a pitch behind a tea towel bought in Blarney Woolen Mills and stand to attention for a song written by the same guy who won the Eurovision with Dana?

And then get pissed all over by real countries who have just heard their national anthems and are so psyched up they are playing with real pride in their hearts and fire in their bellies.

But wait: "Triple Crown" I hear you say. Well, Lamps put it best when he described that as a pat on the back for getting beaten by France.

[Actin The Sham]

Utter Fuckwittery.

My family is from La Rochelle and spend lots of time there and having been born and grown up in Ireland its daft and pure Cork inward small time self loathing to support the opposition.

17 of the 22 team panel are from Munster.

Only 13 of the Toulouse 22 were from the area.

Typical Cork Cack.

La Rochelle?

Typical. I suppose you follow Bordeaux in soccer. Stay North.

:rolleyes:

[POL]

heh heh heh

sure aren't we all Europeans now?

[Actin The Sham]

heh heh heh

sure aren't we all Europeans now?

Heh heh heh. The cracks are appearing, he even said "self loathing."

:grin:

[#11sully]

here are two

Fact

FACT

Thank you. You just proved my point that the sfi are full of shit.

[Lamps]

Rugby: A game for thugs played by thugs supported by fat lads lacking moral fibre.

Nimic does make a good point, where is the county cork rugby team?

Where is it?

[POL]

haven't seen pwnage like this since Dragogate :lol!:
When a lad like ATS puts his mind to it, he can open a serious can of whupass, gas to see the jocks scurrying for cover, trying to defend the indefensible :lol!:

[cantankerous bastard]

Get to the "National" side? So that you can walk out on to a pitch behind a tea towel bought in Blarney Woolen Mills and stand to attention for a song written by the same guy who won the Eurovision with Dana?

And then get pissed all over by real countries who have just heard their national anthems and are so psyched up they are playing with real pride in their hearts and fire in their bellies.

But wait: "Triple Crown" I hear you say. Well, Lamps put it best when he described that as a pat on the back for getting beaten by France.
I for one like the only sporting example of a united ireland team, even if I don't like all that entails on lack of anthem I'll take that compromise.

Theres no point talking to you anymore, you've got issues that go way beyond the sport of rugby. Your bitterness is impressive.

[Actin The Sham]

Thank you. You just proved my point that the sfi are full of shit.


http://www.irishrugby.ie/images/news/IRFU_Flag.jpg


But fumble in a greasy till
And add the halfpence to the pence
And pray to shivering prayer, until
You have dried the marrow from the bone.
September 1913
W. B. Yeats,

[EDDIEB]

La Rochelle?

Typical. I suppose you follow Bordeaux in soccer. Stay North.

:rolleyes:

And this is the parochial small-time begrudger who suddenly follows Toulouse.

It only tells us how much you hate yourself really.

Pity.

[POL]

Heh heh heh. The cracks are appearing, he even said "self loathing."

:grin:You know they are well beaten when they start going on about loathing and bitterness

[Actin The Sham]

I for one like the only sporting example of a united ireland team, even if I don't like all that entails on lack of anthem I'll take that compromise.

Theres no point talking to you anymore, you've got issues that go way beyond the sport of rugby. Your bitterness is impressive.

Cricket?

Hockey?

Sailing?

[Actin The Sham]

And this is the parochial small-time begrudger who suddenly follows Toulouse.

It only tells us how much you hate yourself really.

Pity.


You don't even know where La Rochelle is in relation to Bordeaux I bet.

:grin:

[EDDIEB]

Rugby: A game for thugs played by thugs supported by fat lads lacking moral fibre.

Nimic does make a good point, where is the county cork rugby team?

Where is it?

Remember Lamps people only knock things that they are afraid of or are jealous of.

Plenty of self-loathing in there mostly though.

[EDDIEB]

You don't even know where La Rochelle is in relation to Bordeaux I bet.

:grin:

No not a bloody clue whatsoever.

Can you help me ?

I will be there for the month of July as usual this summer on Ile De Re.

I will ask the Uncles.

[#11sully]

haven't seen pwnage like this since Dragogate :lol!:
When a lad like ATS puts his mind to it, he can open a serious can of whupass, gas to see the jocks scurrying for cover, trying to defend the indefensible :lol!:

pwnage? Do you even know what this thread is about? Now run alone. Lamps might his ass licked :rolleyes: .

[cantankerous bastard]

I wasnt in the mood to work this morning and this passed the time nicely, rugby begrudgers V rugby fans is an endless clash of ideals on this forum, you can see how the civil war rolled around.

Until next time kids.

[Lamps]

I for one like the only sporting example of a united ireland team, even if I don't like all that entails on lack of anthem I'll take that compromise.

Theres no point talking to you anymore, you've got issues that go way beyond the sport of rugby. Your bitterness is impressive.

Whats your take on the loyalist Ulster banner being used instead of the traditional historical flag of Ulster for the Ulster rugby team?

[Actin The Sham]

Remember Lamps people only knock things that they are afraid of or are jealous of.

Plenty of self-loathing in there mostly though.


Here's a job you might be interested in:

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The Thomond Park Stadium Co. Ltd is now accepting applications for the new and expanded role of Sales and Ticketing Manager.
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*****


"Maximise customer dwell time?"


:grin:

[HappyMonday83]

See this is a typical sfi answer. Just words no facts. I thought the sfi only dealt with facts? Then show me some facts.
In sports, a 'bandwagoner' is a derogatory term for people who begin flocking to a team after they have achieved success. Fans of successful sporting teams who do not live in the traditional areas of their support are often accused of being 'bandwagon' fans or only show an interest in the team when they are performing well. Bandwagoner's are also often called glory-hunters or Fairweather fans.

[Actin The Sham]

No not a bloody clue whatsoever.

Can you help me ?

I will be there for the month of July as usual this summer on Ile De Re.

I will ask the Uncles.

What a coincidence, I'll be just down the road.


(In the nice part.)

[EDDIEB]

Here's a job you might be interested in:

http://munster.officialshop .net/images/munster/S/bottomimage.jpg

The Thomond Park Stadium Co. Ltd is now accepting applications for the new and expanded role of Sales and Ticketing Manager.
POST TITLE: Sales & Ticketing Manager (Munster Rugby & Thomond Park Stadium)
1. ROLE AND PURPOSE OF THE POSITION
Responsible for the management & development of the Sales and Ticketing Department for all match day and non - match day events & activities at Thomond Park Stadium & Musgrave Park.

Sales
The primary objective of the sales function is to maximise the commercial return of the stadium through the proactive promotion and advertising of its brand and facilities on both a match day & non match day basis. A core element of responsibility will be to target and attract corporate hospitality business including conferences, banqueting, and events etc. This will involve working together with the stadium director and catering partner on development of the sales strategy and pricing structure with responsibility to implement its sales plan throughout the marketplace.

Match Day
Munster Rugby Events ? Maximising the Sales for all Munster Rugby Representative games in Thomond Park & Musgrave Park including promotion of games, the allocation, printing and distribution of tickets.
Ireland International Tickets ? Allocation and distribution of tickets for all Ireland Home internationals in accordance with IRFU policy
General - Responsible for maximising the usage of the stadiums commercial facilities on match day including the promotion of activities to increase customer dwell time both pre and post match.

Non Match Day
Responsible for the promotion, advertising, and sales of all non match day facilities at Thomond Park Stadium including the allocation, printing, and distribution of tickets. These events & activities will include but is not limited to the following:

Conferences & Banqueting
Corporate Hospitality
Fashion Shows & Promotional Events
Charity Events
Christmas Parties
School Tours
Day Visitor Stadium Tours
Concerts
Festivals
2. REPORTING RELATIONISHIPS

2.1 Operational:

Munster Rugby & IRFU Events ? Munster Rugby Sales & Marketing Manager
Thomond Park Stadium Events ? Stadium Director
Functional:

Munster Rugby Chief Executive Officer
2.2 Direct Reports:

Ticketing and Sales assistant in Thomond Park
Ticketing assistant in Musgrave Park
3. WORKING RELATIONSHIPS

Munster Rugby

Munster Rugby: CEO, Sales & Marketing Manager, Finance Manager
Branch Administrator + Munster Rugby Office Staff
Provincial Team Management and Operations Manager
I.R.F.U. - Ticket Office Manager, accountant & accounts department.
ERC & Celtic League Participating Teams, Celtic League & ERC Office
Branch & Tournament Sponsors
Supporters Club Manager & Administrator
Ticket Master & Ticket Scan (or equivalent)
Clubs, Visiting Clubs, Schools, Tour Operators
Thomond Park Stadium Events, Conferences & Hospitality

Thomond Park Stadium Company: Board of Directors & Stadium Director, Operations Manager
Catering & Facilities Operators
Stadium Sponsors
Regional Hoteliers & Businesses
Event Managers & Conference organisers
Tourism Organisations & Tour Companies
Schools & Colleges
4. KEY QUALITIES

Essential:

Excellent management, organisational and time management skills.
Competent knowledge of I.T. including systems and Office packages.
Minimum of three years ticketing and sales experience, or equivalent.
Excellent communication skills with ability to deal effectively, tactfully and cordially with all types of individuals.
Ability to multi task and work under pressure to meet tight deadlines.
Ability to effectively, train, supervise, and direct ticket sales staff.
Strong work ethic, self motivated & target driven.
People Management experience with strong negotiation & interpersonal skills.
Knowledge of the hospitality industry and key portfolio management.

5. RESPONSIBILITIES

Areas of Conference & Hospitality Sales responsibility include:

To develop and implement sales strategies to create awareness of the stadium brand & facilities, which will generate sales and deliver Market Share.
To proactively manage the sales plan to ensure new business is identified, targeted and secured achieving defined sales targets within specified timeframes.
Planning, organising and co-ordinating the Conferencing & Hospitality sales for the Stadium
Build the profile of the ?Thomond Park Stadium? as a unique conference & hospitality venue and day visitor attraction.
To develop & nurture relationships with all new clients in all market sectors.
To conduct regular benchmarking reviews to ensure competitor analysis is accurate and up to date.
Work with the stadium Catering & Facilities Team to deliver a consistent quality benchmark Sales & Package for the stadium
Implement and manage a direct sales campaign to regional & national businesses.
Work with the local Hotel, Restaurant & Leisure businesses to provide a complete package of services for the venue.
Work with regional tourism operators and visitor attractions to promote the stadium as a unique & quality product.
Work with regional schools to promote stadium as a unique & quality visit.
To initiate sales drives, promotions, mail shots, etc to effectively promote the stadium facilities.
To provide weekly reports to outline up to date sales activity & results plus potential business projections.
General areas of ticketing responsibility include:

Management and on-going development of ticketing function & system.
Create, maintain, and enforce high standards of customer service.
Create & develop ticket office policies & procedures.
Planning, organising and co-ordinating the internet sales ticketing process.
Co-ordinating the printing, distribution and allocation of tickets in accordance with policies & procedures.
Communicating and dealing with customers on general queries via telephone, email and personal contact.
Attendance at Munster Representative home games to manage ticketing processes and procedures
Management and development of the ongoing relationship with Ticket Master and Ticket Scan
Manage the ticketing for additional events, as required, that take part in the stadium ? Concerts & other Sporting events
6 PERFORMANCE MEASURES

Ticketing

Delivery of consistent quality standard of customer service and care.
Efficient and accurate distribution of tickets in accordance with Munster Rugby/Union guidelines
Maximise revenue generated from each game ? meeting annual budget targets
Active Celtic League Sales & Marketing programme designed to maximise attendances.
All revenues due from ticketing received & All match returns presented on time and correctIdentify new initiatives to improve efficiencies & performance of ticketing function.
Sales, Events, Activities, Conferencing & Hospitality

Sales & Marketing plan in place to maximise the opportunities
Deliver the annual Revenue & Profit Budget
Identify new initiatives to grow sales & revenue
Establish stadium facilities as the market leader in terms of quality portfolio of product offers and services.
Delivery of a consistent positive brand image and profile.
Client & Public Relationships delivered and maintained to professional and best business standards.
General

Development of support staff within the department
Development of Stadium Catering & facilities team
To apply for these positions please email your Curriculum Vitae together with a covering letter, to Maurice Carr at BDO Simpson Xavier - mcarr@bdorecruitment .com

Maurice Carr
Partner
BDO Recruitment
Four Michael Street
Limerick

Tel: 061-214296
Fax: 061-414172

Closing date for applications is Friday May 2nd 2008


*****


"Maximise customer dwell time?"


:grin:

Could you be more unhappy ?

[POL]

bandwagon jumper

A person who prior to the playoffs, did not support nor cheer for a team until that team showed promise to win the championship.

[Actin The Sham]

Could you be more unhappy ?

I'm over the moon.


At the end of the day.


(I did lack physicality at the breakdown though, but that's OK because I don't know what it means.)

:grin:

[ANVIL]

Why would anyone want to boast about being in France ?

[EDDIEB]

I'm over the moon.


At the end of the day.


(I did lack physicality at the breakdown though, but that's OK because I don't know what it means.)

:grin:

And clearly displaying all the signs of it.

[EDDIEB]

Why would anyone want to boast about being in France ?

Careful now....

Its better than here......shhhhh.... don't tell anyone !

[#11sully]

In sports, a 'bandwagoner' is a derogatory term for people who begin flocking to a team after they have achieved success. Fans of successful sporting teams who do not live in the traditional areas of their support are often accused of being 'bandwagon' fans or only show an interest in the team when they are performing well. Bandwagoner's are also often called glory-hunters or Fairweather fans.

FFS. The sfi were saying that people who were supporting Ireland are bandwagoners. Where are they living? They also said that people who are supporting Munster were bandwagoners. Where are those people living?

[HappyMonday83]

FFS. The sfi were saying that people who were supporting Ireland are bandwagoners. Where are they living? They also said that people who are supporting Munster were bandwagoners. Where are those people living?

Read the start of it again.

[#11sully]

Read the start of it again.

No need.

[Edmund Blackwater]

FFS. The sfi were saying that people who were supporting Ireland are bandwagoners. Where are they living? They also said that people who are supporting Munster were bandwagoners. Where are those people living? Not in an suv.
Rugby is a recent phenomenon in this country. up until 15 years ago, it was the preserve of tweed jacketed types, retards who went to private school and needed some bolloxology to get them into college and black protestants.
Back then, they'd have laughed at the idea of a plasterer playing the game.
Now it's all about social climbing. the lads who play it are the posers who hang around in c*nt pubs with a heineken in their hand for the night.
No matter how much social climbing you think you've done, they still laugh at you in D4. You'll never be one of them, no matter how desperately you try.
The fact that you can't see this is the pathetic part.
You press the SFI for answers, but deep down you know the answers. The SFI are just a catalyst for your redemption. We are trying to get you to stop making a fool of yourself. Call it tough love if you like, but always remember that we're in your corner.

[ANVIL]

Careful now....

Its better than here......shhhhh.... don't tell anyone !

No it isn't.
Firstly,it's full of French people - the laziest,most cowardly whingeing fuckers in all of Europe and that includes Wales.
Secondly,cheap wine and cheese does not a great country make - if that's what you want then spend an hour of two in the Lidl in Midleton and save yourself the air fare.
Thirdly,it has a midget as its leader.
Fourthly,and here is the real killer,they laugh themselves silly at all the crazy foreigners coming in to buy over-priced,derelict cow sheds and spending their life savings doing up just so they can sit there and consume cheap wine and cheese and pretend they're French.
As you can tell - I was once dumped by a French bird.

[Proinsias]

How about provinces play against each other?

How about Languedoc-Rousillon against Munster?

How about that then?

How would the mighty Munstershiremen complete with "The Greatest Fans In The World (tm)" feel about that?

Or would the vast majority of them even know where Languedoc Rousillon is on a map?
I wouldn't mind. English counties have been playing against each other for a very long time (friend of mine plays for Berkshire), I would have absolutely no objection to them putting the counties or groups of counties into the Heineken Cup.

And I really couldn't care less where Languedoc Rousillion is on a map.
Get to the "National" side? So that you can walk out on to a pitch behind a tea towel bought in Blarney Woolen Mills and stand to attention for a song written by the same guy who won the Eurovision with Dana?

And then get pissed all over by real countries who have just heard their national anthems and are so psyched up they are playing with real pride in their hearts and fire in their bellies.

But wait: "Triple Crown" I hear you say. Well, Lamps put it best when he described that as a pat on the back for getting beaten by France.
I say it's better to stand together as a single united entity behind a teatowel than apart as a sham divided nation.

Does the fact that Northern Ireland and the Republic are two seperate teams fill you with pride?
Rugby: A game for thugs played by thugs supported by fat lads lacking moral fibre.

Nimic does make a good point, where is the county cork rugby team?

Where is it?
County?

An artificial creation. I only take clubs. Stupid Cork bandwagon. Sure what is a county anyway? I say the only teams to support are your locals. Macroom GAA till I die. No other for me. Cork County can go screw themselves with their replica jerseys, fans coming out of the woodwork for championship matches and players taking every advertising penny available to them.

Anyway, I'm off to buy a suit and some energy drink.

[Edmund Blackwater]

No it isn't.
Firstly,it's full of French people - the laziest,most cowardly whingeing fuckers in all of Europe and that includes Wales.
Have you ever been in Italy?

[mistertrixy]

Im a newcastle fan from cork......would my support be condidered an opposite to bandwaggoning??

[Edmund Blackwater]

Im a newcastle fan from cork......would my support be condidered an opposite to bandwaggoning??
Martyrdom.

[Lamps]

Remember Lamps people only knock things that they are afraid of or are jealous of.



Where did you read that, Mystic Meg or Dr Hillary?

[Actin The Sham]

No it isn't.
Firstly,it's full of French people - the laziest,most cowardly whingeing fuckers in all of Europe and that includes Wales.
Secondly,cheap wine and cheese does not a great country make - if that's what you want then spend an hour of two in the Lidl in Midleton and save yourself the air fare.
Thirdly,it has a midget as its leader.
Fourthly,and here is the real killer,they laugh themselves silly at all the crazy foreigners coming in to buy over-priced,derelict cow sheds and spending their life savings doing up just so they can sit there and consume cheap wine and cheese and pretend they're French.
As you can tell - I was once dumped by a French bird.

Never buy a derelict house in France: leave that to the English. Do what the French do, buy a nice new house. You'll spend more at the start but less in the long run.

The French are also good at building bridges:

http://blog.miragestudio7.c om/wp-content/uploads2/2007/07/millau_viaduct_norma n_foster.jpg


and trains:


http://www.frenchentree.com/france-brittany-news/images/tgv.jpg

Not to mention Eurotunnel, Ariane, Airbus A380, Concorde, and all the other projects that they have been heavily involved in, in colloboration with other European countries.

[EDDIEB]

No it isn't.
Firstly,it's full of French people - the laziest,most cowardly whingeing fuckers in all of Europe and that includes Wales.
Secondly,cheap wine and cheese does not a great country make - if that's what you want then spend an hour of two in the Lidl in Midleton and save yourself the air fare.
Thirdly,it has a midget as its leader.
Fourthly,and here is the real killer,they laugh themselves silly at all the crazy foreigners coming in to buy over-priced,derelict cow sheds and spending their life savings doing up just so they can sit there and consume cheap wine and cheese and pretend they're French.
As you can tell - I was once dumped by a French bird.

It shows...It shows.....

The thought of spending time in a Lidl....in Midleton is a good definition of hell.

Spend some time there and come back to me (Paris excluded)

[#11sully]

Not in an suv.
Rugby is a recent phenomenon in this country. up until 15 years ago, it was the preserve of tweed jacketed types, retards who went to private school and needed some bolloxology to get them into college and black protestants.
Back then, they'd have laughed at the idea of a plasterer playing the game.
Now it's all about social climbing. the lads who play it are the posers who hang around in c*nt pubs with a heineken in their hand for the night.
No matter how much social climbing you think you've done, they still laugh at you in D4. You'll never be one of them, no matter how desperately you try.
The fact that you can't see this is the pathetic part.
You press the SFI for answers, but deep down you know the answers. The SFI are just a catalyst for your redemption. We are trying to get you to stop making a fool of yourself. Call it tough love if you like, but always remember that we're in your corner.

Holy sweet mother of jusus :o

[EDDIEB]

Spent a few days in Bordeaux last September (2 hour+ by train from La Rochelle( direct flights this siummer from Cork to La Rochelle) fantastic improvements to a recently run down traffic clogged city - Cork and Dublin could learn plenty.

Well worth a visit and not just for the vino.

[Actin The Sham]

Spent a few days in Bordeaux last September (2 hour+ by train from La Rochelle( direct flights this siummer from Cork to La Rochelle) fantastic improvements to a recently run down traffic clogged city - Cork and Dublin could learn plenty.

Well worth a visit and not just for the vino.

So you do know how far it is from La Rochelle...


Heh heh heh...

[POL]

so basically its Lidil in Middleton without decent weather

[EDDIEB]

So you do know how far it is from La Rochelle...


Heh heh heh...

Amazing eh ?

Anything to make you happy.

It all must help.

[Rebel Yell]

The SFI are taking a bit of a boshing here ....are the very foundations of the conglomerate quivering ?

[POL]

The SFI are taking a bit of a boshing here ....are the very foundations of the conglomerate quivering ?what game are you watching? :lol!:

[Lamps]

FFS. The sfi were saying that people who were supporting Ireland are bandwagoners. Where are they living? They also said that people who are supporting Munster were bandwagoners. Where are those people living?

all aboard.

[ANVIL]

so basically its Lidil in Middleton without decent weather

Yep - he mentioned bridges and trains but nothing about the people.
They're untrustworthy and insular.

[Lamps]

Cork County can go screw themselves with their replica jerseys, fans coming out of the woodwork for championship matches and players taking every advertising penny available to them.

Anyway, I'm off to buy a suit and some energy drink.

Might lob this one in my sig

[Actin The Sham]

Yep - he mentioned bridges and trains but nothing about the people.
They're untrustworthy and insular.

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/melissa-theuriau/pictures/melissa-theuriau-picture-6.jpg

She'd still get IT though.....

[Lamps]

Not in an suv.
Rugby is a recent phenomenon in this country. up until 15 years ago, it was the preserve of tweed jacketed types, retards who went to private school and needed some bolloxology to get them into college and black protestants.
Back then, they'd have laughed at the idea of a plasterer playing the game.
Now it's all about social climbing. the lads who play it are the posers who hang around in c*nt pubs with a heineken in their hand for the night.
No matter how much social climbing you think you've done, they still laugh at you in D4. You'll never be one of them, no matter how desperately you try.
The fact that you can't see this is the pathetic part.
You press the SFI for answers, but deep down you know the answers. The SFI are just a catalyst for your redemption. We are trying to get you to stop making a fool of yourself. Call it tough love if you like, but always remember that we're in your corner.

Thats some post right there. 10/10 Edmund.

[Proinsias]

Might lob this one in my sig

You may, but you might want to put my <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags around it.

I wish the county team all the best, I do enjoy watching a few of their matches in the latter stages of the championship. Like most people.

[EDDIEB]

From the usual wumming comedy begrudgery to French Tourism.....I like it !

[Rebel Yell]

so basically its Lidil in Middleton without decent weather

It's Lidl and Midleton POL - two spelling errors in a nine word sentence...barely forgiveable by SFI standards....

Failure to mature to the point where admitting that the bandwagon effect can be a good thing...
Spelling errors abound....

Could be a sad day for the Sports forum...the signs are there ...The conglomerate is crumbling....

[Edmund Blackwater]

From the usual wumming comedy begrudgery to French Tourism.....I like it !
we're all about the culture.

[ANVIL]

From the usual wumming comedy begrudgery to French Tourism.....I like it !

Not a bother,biy.
You should see me get worked up about the Spanish !

[Lamps]

You may, but you might want to put my <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags around it.

I wish the county team all the best, I do enjoy watching a few of their matches in the latter stages of the championship. Like most people.

No dice, I read between the lines.

Prionsias doesn't believe in the mythical county of Cork.

[ANVIL]

we're all about the culture.

French culture is the stuff that grows on a dirty,unwashed Frenchman.

[POL]

I'd say that Eddieb is one of those lads that would ask for a steak "well done" if he was in France, that and asking for a glass of "blue nun" with his dinner....he'd be laughed out of :lol!:

[#11sully]

all aboard.

Not at all. I have already stated that i'm not a part of any bandwagon be it gaa, rugby, soccer, etc... I would though like to see my country, province, or local team win over another team from any other part of Ireland or another country whoever they may be. Is it wrong to want your own to win?

[Proinsias]

Thats some post right there. 10/10 Edmund.

Meh.

It's a bland rehashing of stereotypes.

As someone who was playing rugby in Cork 15 years ago, I can assure you that it was only a small part of the story then, as it is now.

I would say that at the time, the strongest underage teams in Cork were ourselves (Highfield), Muskerry and Midleton.

Not exactly a bunch of social climbing teams.

[Lamps]

Not at all. I have already stated that i'm not a part of any bandwagon be it gaa, rugby, soccer, etc... I would though like to see my country, province, or local team win over another team from any other part of Ireland or another country whoever they may be. Is it wrong to want your own to win?

You don't even know what a bandwagon is by the sounds of it

[Proinsias]

No dice, I read between the lines.

Prionsias doesn't believe in the mythical county of Cork.
Just as you don't believe in the mythical province of Munster?

My point is that both are conglomerations of teams. To say they're not valid because they're not a single point misses it completely.
Not at all. I have already stated that i'm not a part of any bandwagon be it gaa, rugby, soccer, etc... I would though like to see my country, province, or local team win over another team from any other part of Ireland or another country whoever they may be. Is it wrong to want your own to win?

Spot on.

I see no conflict between my support for Munster, Cork, Ireland or even Macroom.

[EDDIEB]

I'd say that Eddieb is one of those lads that would ask for a steak "well done" if he was in France, that and asking for a glass of "blue nun" with his dinner....he'd be laughed out of :lol!:

Where I go back to its all seafood POLLY and great Muscadet.....in the sun !

Some year I will try your annual caravan trip to Ballybunion for warm curry chip (plural "S" left out) tin of Coke.......in the rain while some mad inbred simpleton kerry folk extract money from you at every turn.

[#11sully]

You don't even know what a bandwagon is by the sounds of it

Don't ya mean "by the looks of it" :rolleyes:

I do know what a bandwagon is. But I ask you, Is it wrong to support you own?

[Proinsias]

You don't even know what a bandwagon is by the sounds of it

Does it look anything like this?

http://i.pbase.com/v3/08/578508/2/49142029.UpLoadPhoto sCorkWintheAllIrelan d.jpg

[POL]

Don't ya mean "by the looks of it" :rolleyes:

I do know what a bandwagon is. But I ask you, Is it wrong to support you own?Is Paul O'Connell from Cork? or Howlett?

[Proinsias]

Is Paul O'Connell from Cork? or Howlett?

http://www.appscout.com/images/spam%20boy.jpg

[Actin The Sham]

Is Paul O'Connell from Cork? or Howlett?

Is Rua Tipoki anything to the Tipokis from Blarney Street?

[POL]

Is Rua Tipoki anything to the Tipokis from Blarney Street?Did you know Lifeimi Mafi's father? from out the hane direction?

[HappyMonday83]

I don't know about howlett but mafi is pure cork like.

[Lamps]

Don't ya mean "by the looks of it" :rolleyes:

I do know what a bandwagon is. But I ask you, Is it wrong to support you own?

no, by the sounds of it

[POL]

I don't know about howlett but mafi is pure cork like.The mother is from Ballyvourney

[hiawatha]

The French are also good at building bridges:

http://blog.miragestudio7.c om/wp-content/uploads2/2007/07/millau_viaduct_norma n_foster.jpg


Designed by a British architect and built by a Spanish engineering firm if I'm not mistaken. I do love France though.

[Lamps]

I don't know about howlett but mafi is pure cork like.

Himself and Jimmy Barry go way back, their great grandparents were mad for the whippets

[POL]

no, by the sounds of itSaw poor old David Wallace driving a clapped out 2008 Lexus recently, an inspiration to the ordinary men of munster whom they represent if ever there was one

[#11sully]

Is Paul O'Connell from Cork? or Howlett?

Is Anthony Horgan, Stringer, Tomás O' Leary, DoC, mick O Driscoll.

Nuff said.

[Actin The Sham]

Is Federico Pucciariello anything to the Pucciariellos from Magazine Road?

[Rebelred]

I don't know about howlett but mafi is pure cork like.

Shaun Paynes first cousin isn't he?

[POL]

Is Federico Pucciariello anything to the Pucciariellos from Magazine Road?what about another Munster "ligind" big Jim Williams from working class Ballybeg in Waterford?

[Actin The Sham]

Is Anthony Horgan, Stringer, Tomás O' Leary, DoC, mick O Driscoll.

Nuff said.

What about that goy ROG? He's one of the lads as well isn't he?

[Actin The Sham]

Designed by a British architect and built by a Spanish engineering firm if I'm not mistaken. I do love France though.


Go way back to Top Gear. It's one thing to design something, another to go out and build it.

What about the Super Etendard, the TGV, the Louvre, The Pompidou Centre, the Statue Of Liberty?

[Lamps]

what about another Munster "ligind" big Jim Williams from working class Ballybeg in Waterford?

fierce man for sniffin glue back in the day

[Actin The Sham]

Himself and Jimmy Barry go way back, their great grandparents were mad for the whippets

I heard Paul Warwicks granddad was one of the founder members of the Redemption Road Pigeon Fanciers Club back in 1937.

[#11sully]

What about that goy ROG? He's one of the lads as well isn't he?

Heh heh. You want me to take that bait do you. If I had said ROG sure wouldn't you have complained that he was born in SF and that he wasn't a true cork man :rolleyes: .

[Actin The Sham]

Heh heh. You want me to take that bait do you. If I had said ROG sure wouldn't you have complained that he was born in SF and that he wasn't a true cork man :rolleyes: .

Actually, no.

But now that you've brought it up.....


:grin:

[#11sully]

Actually, no.

But now that you've brought it up.....


:grin:

Now now. keep it clean.

[Proinsias]

Heh heh. You want me to take that bait do you. If I had said ROG sure wouldn't you have complained that he was born in SF and that he wasn't a true cork man :rolleyes: .

*ahem*

Twas San Diego, but no matter. His parents are nice people, never met Ronan himself in any other situation than briefly out in a pub though.


Nice quote from Rua Tipoki in the Guardian:
"I think with Munster it's a real feeling of playing for something bigger than yourself."

[EDDIEB]

Go way back to Top Gear. It's one thing to design something, another to go out and build it.

What about the Super Etendard, the TGV, the Louvre, The Pompidou Centre, the Statue Of Liberty?

Pompadou ? Renzo Piano & Richard Rodgers

Louvre ? I.M.Pei.

[EDDIEB]

Larry Tompkins...?

Pure Cork like ?

[Actin The Sham]

*ahem*

Twas San Diego, but no matter. His parents are nice people, never met Ronan himself in any other situation than briefly out in a pub though.


Nice quote from Rua Tipoki in the Guardian:
"I think with Munster it's a real feeling of playing for something bigger than yourself."



Says it all biy, says it all.

Imagine Jimmy Barry being quoted in the Guardian, or worse still a pseudo jock on here quoting him.


:grin:

[Rebelred]

Actually, no.

But now that you've brought it up.....


:grin:

so, the list of genuine local plasterers, dockers and bin men in the Franchise includes:
ROG
Mafi
Tipoki
Payne
Dowling
Howlett
Pucciarello
Carney
Warwick

[Actin The Sham]

Pompadou ? Renzo Piano & Richard Rodgers

Louvre ? I.M.Pei.

Patrick Street? Beth Gali


Your point?

[POL]

Nice quote from Rua Tipoki in the Guardian:
"I think with Munster it's a real feeling of playing for something bigger than yourself."
Goebbels would have been proud of that one

[POL]

so, the list of genuine local plasterers, dockers and bin men in the Franchise includes:
ROG
Mafi
Tipoki
Payne
Dowling
Howlett
Pucciarello
Carney
Warwick

Jerry Flannery cleans the jacks in a pub in Limerick, salt of the earth

[#11sully]

*ahem*

Twas San Diego, but no matter. His parents are nice people, never met Ronan himself in any other situation than briefly out in a pub though.


Nice quote from Rua Tipoki in the Guardian:
"I think with Munster it's a real feeling of playing for something bigger than yourself."

I stand corrected.

Now that wasn't so hard. Admitting I was wrong about something.

[POL]

I stand corrected.

Now that wasn't so hard. Admitting I was wrong about something.schoolboy error in fairness

[Actin The Sham]

Larry Tompkins...?

Pure Cork like ?

What about Shay Fahy, or even the O' Hailpins?

What's your point? They weren't mercenaries, they were/are men of honour, amateur sportsmen playing for the love of the game.

Would ROG or the rest of the goys go on strike for something they believed in?


Would they fock.

[#11sully]

Jerry Flannery cleans the jacks in a pub in Limerick, salt of the earth

Isn't he a galway man though?

[#11sully]

What about Shay Fahy, or even the O' Hailpins?

What's your point? They weren't mercenaries, they were/are men of honour, amateur sportsmen playing for the love of the game.

Would ROG or the rest of the goys go on strike for something they believed in?


Would they fock.

Maybe its bacause its not being run by a bunch of gangsters, i.e. frank murphy and co.

[Actin The Sham]

Isn't he a galway man though?

So that's why the customers at the games sing "The Fields Of Athenry."

[Proinsias]

What about Shay Fahy, or even the O' Hailpins?

What's your point? They weren't mercenaries, they were/are men of honour, amateur sportsmen playing for the love of the game.

Would ROG or the rest of the goys go on strike for something they believed in?


Would they fock.

Dodgy territory there, buddy.

Foley was playing for Munster in the amateur era.

[EDDIEB]

What about Shay Fahy, or even the O' Hailpins?

What's your point? They weren't mercenaries, they were/are men of honour, amateur sportsmen playing for the love of the game.

Would ROG or the rest of the goys go on strike for something they believed in?


Would they fock.

Are'nt half the O'Hailpins off in Oz getting paid F.F.S.

The Politbureau of the Cork Co.Board in Sean Ogs vice like grip scared of what he will ask for next as he gets moolah for playing and sponsorship lolly.

[Actin The Sham]

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*****


"Travelodge."

Heh heh heh....

[Rebelred]

FAO Bandwagoners everywhere:


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Two tickets for the sell out Rugby Heineken Cup Final in Cardiff on the 24th May 2008. Also includes accomadation at the nearby Travelodge. Every hotel and B&B in or anywhere near Cardiff is sold out for that night.

Geniune offers in excess of euro €500 only please.

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*****


"Travelodge."

Heh heh heh....
I'd better let Fiachra and Ultan know about this, they've been dying to go since sunday

[3pointplay]

You need to clam down mr less than 900 posts
I ask again what has a post count got to do with anything?

[3pointplay]

This post just about sums you and your lot up. do you ever read your posts? you sure do come across as a tosser.
When anyone puts forward any question which challenges you, you just have to resort to idiotic posts like above.
A sad little man.

Good call on the std's sfi sxf or whatever ghey little name they go under.

[HappyMonday83]

FAO Bandwagoners everywhere:


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Two tickets for the sell out Rugby Heineken Cup Final in Cardiff on the 24th May 2008. Also includes accomadation at the nearby Travelodge. Every hotel and B&B in or anywhere near Cardiff is sold out for that night.

Geniune offers in excess of euro €500 only please.

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THIS ADVERT WILL BE IN BOTH THE IRISH EXAMINER & THE EVENING ECHO NEXT WEEK. IT WILL SELL OUT FAST. LAST CHANCE FOLKS!

Jonathan.


*****


"Travelodge."

Heh heh heh....

I'm hoping to cash in on the bandwagon myself. I should be getting a ticket off the club which will be promptly put on ebay for about €300.

[3pointplay]

What about Shay Fahy, or even the O' Hailpins?

What's your point? They weren't mercenaries, they were/are men of honour, amateur sportsmen playing for the love of the game.

Would ROG or the rest of the goys go on strike for something they believed in?


Would they fock.

The O' Hailpins are all down in oz playing for Dollers and you can bet if Sean Og was 10 years younger he would be gone as well giving Cork the 2 fingered goodbye.

[#11sully]

The O' Hailpins are all down in oz playing for Dollers and you can bet if Sean Og was 10 years younger he would be gone as well giving Cork the 2 fingered goodbye.

Your in for it now 3pp. Talking shit like that about the gaa players. They wouldn't even dream of doing something like that :rolleyes: .

[Actin The Sham]

The O' Hailpins are all down in oz playing for Dollers and you can bet if Sean Og was 10 years younger he would be gone as well giving Cork the 2 fingered goodbye.

My point was that people from outside Cork came to play hurling and football in Cork for the love of the game.

How much is ROG getting for playing for Munstershire/Stade Limerique?

[#11sully]

schoolboy error in fairness

See POL. Its little things like that make the rest of the board better than you lot. Nobody on here has a problem with admitting they are wrong. Try it sometime. be sure to get the ok from Lamps first though.

[3pointplay]

Your in for it now 3pp. Talking shit like that about the gaa players. They wouldn't even dream of doing something like that :rolleyes: .

Is it also true that Sean Og was looking for a few bob to hand out a few awards in an East Cork gaa club?

[#11sully]

My point was that people from outside Cork came to play hurling and football in Cork for the love of the game.

How much is ROG getting for playing for Munstershire/Stade Limerique?

I agree with you about the love of the game but don't tell me that they wouldn't like to get paid for it. thats a load of bollix. Seán óg admitted as much when he said he was too old to go down under with his brothers.

Also, Do you think rog loves playing rugby? Of course he does. It's just the sign of the times. Its called preofessionalism. It's his job. last time I checked people do get paid for doing their job.

[#11sully]

Is it also true that Sean Og was looking for a few bob to hand out a few awards in an East Cork gaa club?

Sure didn't he have sponsorship on his hurley. Not dissing the guy. If he can make a few bob for doing something he loves the fair play to him.

[Lamps]

Sure didn't he have sponsorship on his hurley. Not dissing the guy. If he can make a few bob for doing something he loves the fair play to him.

Look at you besmirching Sean ógs name, you should be ashamed of yourself, the amount of hours he puts in for nothing for the benifit of us all. disgusting

[Actin The Sham]

Sure didn't he have sponsorship on his hurley. Not dissing the guy. If he can make a few bob for doing something he loves the fair play to him.

I suppose you're going to start going on about Ben O' Connor getting a loan of a Ford Focus off Cavanaghs in Charleville next?

While the rogby jocks ponce around in Lexi and BMWs? Binmen, plasterers, and dockers me hole.

Talk about begrudgery!

[Lamps]

I suppose you're going to start going on about Ben O' Connor getting a loan of a Ford Focus off Cavanaghs in Charleville next?

While the rogby jocks ponce around in Lexi and BMWs? Binmen, plasterers, and dockers me hole.

Talk about begrudgery!

All these langers like sully850 would be better off moving to Limerick if you ask me. Trying to knock the lads from the GAA getting a loan of a car.

That reminds me, should I tell the story about ROG calling some lad a norrie again?

[POL]

what a roasting the jocks are getting today, let them fock off the Limerick and get a free BMW off Frank Keogh motors

[hiawatha]

Go way back to Top Gear. It's one thing to design something, another to go out and build it.



I was merely being facetious. I saw it on Mega Structures anyway. Spanish engineers built it, with a bunch of Turkish, Algerian and Moroccan construction workers.

[3pointplay]

Look at you besmirching Sean ógs name, you should be ashamed of yourself, the amount of hours he puts in for nothing for the benifit of us all. disgusting
More like the first one to man the picket line when the gaa boys want their way.;)

[EDDIEB]

what a roasting the jocks are getting today, let them fock off the Limerick and get a free BMW off Frank Keogh motors

Frank Hogan sells Audi,Merc & Volkswagen etc.

Poor stupid POL yet again....:rolleyes:

[Lamps]

More like the first one to man the picket line when the gaa boys want their way.;)

I'd rather not argue the toss with a lad who thought Maradona played for Belgium

[Lamps]

Frank Hogan sells Audi,Merc & Volkswagen etc.

Poor stupid POL yet again....:rolleyes:

You seem very certain on these little details. Once again


Who's Davey Tweed

[POL]

Frank Hogan sells Audi,Merc & Volkswagen etc.

Poor stupid POL yet again....:rolleyes:o h sorrrrrry!! PAT Keogh, apoligies if we are not familiar with Limerick jock car dealerships, some of us like to support our own like http://www.patkeoghbmw.ie/contentv3/

[EDDIEB]

You seem very certain on these little details. Once again


You just know he's rattled when he mentions Davey Tweed

Have you reached your maximum Bitterness Level yet or are you saving it for the end of May Lamps ?:lol!:

[3pointplay]

I'd rather not argue the toss with a lad who thought Maradona played for Belgium
What you on about??:confused:

[Lamps]

You just know he's rattled when he mentions Davey Tweed

Have you reached your maximum Bitterness Level yet or are you saving it for the end of May Lamps ?:lol!:

I haven't a bitter bone in my body, the Davey Tweed joke is just the all time ace in the pack when you're trying to act as an authority on Rogby.

[EDDIEB]

oh sorrrrrry!! PAT Keogh, apoligies if we are not familiar with Limerick jock car dealerships, some of us like to support our own like http://www.patkeoghbmw.ie/contentv3/

Jock Car Dealerships....what next ?

Schoolboy error in fairness POL.

I will let you off this time.....:rolleyes:

[Lamps]

What you on about??:confused:

Keep running lad

[HappyMonday83]

You just know he's rattled when he mentions Davey Tweed

Have you reached your maximum Bitterness Level yet or are you saving it for the end of May Lamps ?:lol!:

Who's davey tweed? :lol!:

[POL]

Touchy! Guess where Eddie gets his Lexus? :lol!:

[EDDIEB]

I haven't a bitter bone in my body, the Davey Tweed joke is just the all time ace in the pack when you're trying to act as an authority on Rogby.

I bow to your superior knowledge of the sport that you hate.

Oh well......:sleeping:

[Lamps]

Who's davey tweed? :lol!:

I'd say Eddie is following Munstershire since about 2004.

[POL]

asking who is Davy Tweed is like asking who is Serge Betson in todays climate

[3pointplay]

Keep running lad

I have nothing to run from on the PROC, And check you're age there kid.;)

[EDDIEB]

asking who is Davy Tweed is like asking who is Serge Betson in todays climate

Serge Betsen ?

Oh ya the fellow that lickle Peter Stringer burnt in the HEC final in 2006.

Thats him allright.:-)

[Lamps]

What about Wille Anderson, banged up in Argentina for pissing on their flag?

[POL]

Serge Betsen ?

Oh ya the fellow that lickle Peter Stringer burnt in the HEC final in 2006.

Thats him allright.:-)Where is stringer now? Serge is a modern day great and his legendary status assured, stringer will end his days playing for Stade Limerique B in Muzzers
:lol!:

[POL]

What about Wille Anderson, banged up in Argentina for pissing on their flag?
The Falklands was obviously still an issue for him

[Lamps]

The Falklands was obviously still an issue for him

Darn tootin, I'd say Ashley Cole and Jermaine Pennants stag night wouldn't have been so debased an occasion. These jocks have no class

[Coogee]

so, the list of genuine local plasterers, dockers and bin men in the Franchise includes:
ROG
Mafi
Tipoki
Payne
Dowling
Howlett
Pucciarello
Carney
Warwick

Professional sport mate...How many of the Arsenal mercenary XI are from North London?

Wouldnt see foreigners form other counties pplaying in an all ireland from cork now would we...the binmen form North Mon woludnt stand on the Hill shouting on those boys would they....oh wait a second Larry Tompkins and Shay Fahey
were Kildare men wer'nt they...ah well Cork Liginds now never mind!!!

[POL]

ROG called someone a "norrie" in an abusive manner once, what would the labourers and fishermen of Blackpool think?

[Coogee]

What about Shay Fahy, or even the O' Hailpins?

What's your point? They weren't mercenaries, they were/are men of honour, amateur sportsmen playing for the love of the game.

Would ROG or the rest of the goys go on strike for something they believed in?


Would they fock.

Gway you langer...so its okay for two kildare men to come down and play for Cork in an amateur...men of honour...please

[Lamps]

Professional sport mate...How many of the Arsenal mercenary XI are from North London?

Wouldnt see foreigners form other counties pplaying in an all ireland from cork now would we...the binmen form North Mon woludnt stand on the Hill shouting on those boys would they....oh wait a second Larry Tompkins and Shay Fahey
were Kildare men wer'nt they...ah well Cork Liginds now never mind!!!


I'd say Dougie Howser will be planting roots on Sundays well next door to Christian Cullen when his contract is up?

[Lamps]

ROG called someone a "norrie" in an abusive manner once, what would the labourers and fishermen of Blackpool think?

You should have heard it POL, big red head up on him, he thought it was the ultimate insult. Probably is out where he comes from.

Yeah, he's doing it for the people of Cork alright. Sickening

[Coogee]

asking who is Davy Tweed is like asking who is Serge Betson in todays climate

Davy Tweed 3 international caps
Serge Betsen 62 International caps

They both wore the number 6 jersey but thats where the similarities end.

Davy Tweed is like asking who is cameron Jowitt in todays climate!!!

[Lamps]

Gway you langer...so its okay for two kildare men to come down and play for Cork in an amateur...men of honour...please

Genuine question:

Are Cullen and John Langford still leaving in Cork?

[EDDIEB]

ROG called someone a "norrie" in an abusive manner once, what would the labourers and fishermen of Blackpool think?

Funny you should mention Blackpool.

The place is covered in Munster Flags !!!:p

[Coogee]

Genuine question:

Are Cullen and John Langford still leaving in Cork?

Nope Cullen back in NZ and Langford back in Sydney since 2003. Your point?

[Coogee]

I'd say Dougie Howser will be planting roots on Sundays well next door to Christian Cullen when his contract is up?

Your point??

[Lamps]

Nope Cullen back in NZ and Langford back in Sydney since 2003. Your point?

Pretty sure Shea Fahy is still involved with Nemo Rangers, not sure if he's still involved with the army or not. I have the impression he's working in IT for a very large local compnay.
Larry Tompkins runs a city centre pub, not sure if he's doing much with Casltlehaven these days.

Consider yourself pwned

[EDDIEB]

Your point??

He is just being malicious as usual.

17 of the 22 Munster Panel on Sunday were from Munster.

13 of the 22 Tulouse Panel were from the area.

Go figure.

Lamps will never be happy

[Lamps]

He is just being malicious as usual.

17 of the 22 Munster Panel on Sunday were from Munster.

13 of the 22 Tulouse Panel were from the area.

Go figure.

Lamps will never be happy

How many of the "local" lads went to schools where you have to pay for the privilige of attending?

How many went to Terrence McSwiney?

[cantankerous bastard]

How many of the "local" lads went to schools where you have to pay for the privilige of attending?

How many went to Terrence McSwiney?
christ you never change the record do you?

Boring, boring class based bullshit.

[Lamps]

christ you never change the record do you?

Boring, boring class based bullshit.

we are countering the propoganda shitheel.

about 7,000 people turned out in Cork after they had won the "european cup". de paper lied and said it was 30,000! think about that.

the common man in Cork cares not for this franchise, we won't be treated for fools

[Lamps]

what a beating the jocks are taking today, like old times

[EDDIEB]

christ you never change the record do you?

Boring, boring class based bullshit.

Its always those without class that go on about it the most as they say.

In France these class obsessed people are even more hated than the bourgeoise by the working classes.

See Also http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showthread.php?t=846 42

[Coogee]

Pretty sure Shea Fahy is still involved with Nemo Rangers, not sure if he's still involved with the army or not. I have the impression he's working in IT for a very large local compnay.
Larry Tompkins runs a city centre pub, not sure if he's doing much with Casltlehaven these days.

Consider yourself pwned

and cullen and Langford are not form Ireland so why would they stay here once their careers are over. Again you cant compare the GAA which is an amatuer sport to other professional sports. How many of the Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea overseas players will stay put in their respective clubs cities when their careers are over.

Dont think Tadgh Kennelly will stay on in Sydney surfing for the next 20 years when his contract is up!!!

Imagine if the GAA were an international sport and the like of Larry and Shay ended up overseas playing their beloved game...im sure that when they turned 30 and hung up the boots they'd be back home in Kildare with their families

[Coogee]

what a beating the jocks are taking today, like old times

If you actually concentrated in making valid points instead of constantly wetting yourself over getting one over on " the jocks" we'd all have a better debate on here

[Lamps]

I'm not getting any answers jocks?

Does Ronan O Gara represent "norries"?
Where are all the munster players from knocka and the glen?
Why did the examiner report 30000 when it was nearer 7000?
Can anyone spot any difference between what Larry Tompkins/Shea Fahy did and Cullen?