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liam2me
25-04-2008, 03:52 PM
Munster coach Declan Kidney looks set to be installed as Ireland's new coach in succession to Eddie O'Sullivan.

The announcement could be made as early as next week, particularly if Munster fail to overcome Saracens in Sunday's Heineken Cup semi-final.

Kidney, O'Sullivan's number two from 2001 to 2004, is the stand-out candidate after several high-profile alternatives ruled themselves out.

An interim coaching team could be in place against the Barbarians on 27 May.

Niall O'Donovan, who was O'Sullivan's number two, could be put in charge for that game if Munster make the Heineken Cup final, which takes place in Cardiff three days before the Kingsholm match.

Kidney's promotion to the Ireland job will be widely accepted, although some will remember his short-lived stint with Welsh region the Dragons and his subsequent move from Leinster back to Munster.

Apart from Toulouse's Guy Noves he has the best club record in Europe, guiding Munster to three finals, winning one in 2006.

The Irish Rugby Football Union committee, given the job of filling the role vacated by O'Sullivan, have also considered a completely new back-room team.

The need for a coach to be installed quickly is vitally important as the International Rugby Board world rankings will be used for the first time to seed teams at the 2011 World Cup in New Zealand.

With the draw for pool places to take place in December, Ireland have the two summer Tests - against the All Blacks and Australia - along with autumn internationals against Canada, New Zealand and Argentina - to improve their current lowly ranking of eighth.

The new system replaces the previous seeding process which was determined by a team's performances in the previous World Cup, which ended with Ireland departing after the group stages.

Kidney, as well as helping Munster to yet another semi-final, will have already been working on a top-class back-up.

Ulster's Phil Morrow has already been earmarked for the post of strength and conditioning coach.

Mick Galwey's standing down as Shannon coach could also lead to the former Ireland lock taking a managerial role within the national team.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/irish/7328926.stm

no, no, no, no, NO

Keep him at munster, they are more important. get Meyer and/or white to manager ireland, or at the very least an outsider FFS the IRFU are making a serious mistake here

BangorFeen
25-04-2008, 03:54 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/irish/7328926.stm

no, no, no, no, NO

Keep him at munster, they are more important. get Meyer and/or white to manager ireland, or at the very least an outsider FFS the IRFU are making a serious mistake here
Why not? He clearly deserves the chance and it's not as if any of the the other candidates don't have rather prominent question marks over them too. Naturally, I'd be sorry to lose him from a Munster perspective but what can you do?

Rebelred
25-04-2008, 04:01 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/irish/7328926.stm

no, no, no, no, NO

Keep him at munster, they are more important. get Meyer and/or white to manager ireland, or at the very least an outsider FFS the IRFU are making a serious mistake here

shoulder to shoulder, we'll answer Arlands call!

Eoin
25-04-2008, 04:09 PM
Why not? He clearly deserves the chance and it's not as if any of the the other candidates don't have rather prominent question marks over them too. Naturally, I'd be sorry to lose him from a Munster perspective but what can you do?

Exactly, I think he has to be given his shot, he'll be missed at munster, but I think he's by far and away the best man for the job. He's delivered results at eveyr level he's coached at, and I see no reason why he can't do the same with Ireland.

liam2me
25-04-2008, 04:10 PM
Why not? He clearly deserves the chance and it's not as if any of the the other candidates don't have rather prominent question marks over them too. Naturally, I'd be sorry to lose him from a Munster perspective but what can you do?
why not? munster are more important thats why not. + the leinster shite won't play for him. would prefer an outsider so that way ireland and munster can be strong. i'm being objective, sport has no room for subjective sentiment

BangorFeen
25-04-2008, 04:29 PM
why not? munster are more important thats why not. + the leinster shite won't play for him. would prefer an outsider so that way ireland and munster can be strong. i'm being objective, sport has no room for subjective sentiment
If they won't play for him then I'm sure there's plenty of others who will. Any silly fucker who wants to play that game will find themselves very isolated very quickly. Do you think Kidney will be taking up this job without somebody with a very large stick having his back? He's not stupid and he's a proven winner. And you're not being objective. A cusory familiarity with the IRFU's structures would reveal to you that the provinces are wholly subservient to the national team so no, Munster are not more important than ireland- they're just easier to support. In any event, how long exactly do you want DK to coach Munster? If we've learned anything from the travesty that was the latter part of Cooder's reign it's that coaches get stale if they stay in the one place too long. Munster will be just fine.

RonnyB
25-04-2008, 04:37 PM
Shur Munster already have a ready-made replacement not working at the moment. I believe he's from Youghal.....

BangorFeen
25-04-2008, 04:39 PM
Shur Munster already have a ready-made replacement not working at the moment. I believe he's from Youghal.....
That's true. I mean, what with TP now being twice the size we'll need extra staff to clean the drains

POL
25-04-2008, 05:10 PM
Munstershire by birth, Arland by the grace of god

Edmund Blackwater
25-04-2008, 06:25 PM
Does it really matter who manages Arland?
They're a busted flush. Wasted the best years of their one true world class player by turning him into rogby's equivalent of a holding midfielder and surrounding him with dross.
If Arland were to go into the Magners league next season, they wouldn't finish in the top 4. Not that there'd be too many there to see it anyway.

Coogee
26-04-2008, 01:17 AM
Does it really matter who manages Arland?
They're a busted flush. Wasted the best years of their one true world class player by turning him into rogby's equivalent of a holding midfielder and surrounding him with dross.
If Arland were to go into the Magners league next season, they wouldn't finish in the top 4. Not that there'd be too many there to see it anyway.

Most ridiculous post of the day...by far