The Official 2008 F1 Thread

[Roman Abramovich]

well great to see oull lewwy get off the mark. good to see the after race celebrations with his buddy going back to the karting days. Whats hilarious though is even when giving the press conference the two lads looked bate and lewis hamilton looked like he hadnt even sweat an ounce.

class act....

[Aphex]

someone's going to be getting the slaps:

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v643662283dztgtQ?con firmed=1

[Roman Abramovich]

i laughed me head off at that at 6 in the morning.
my favourite bit about it is the commentator laughing, then when they cut back to him he apologising for the colourful langauge used.

heh heh heh...........

[VzN]

Piquet will spring a surprise - you'll see.

[Eau Rouge]

Didn't Piquet cause the first corner crash? (I've seen a brief highlight, was he the car on the far inside?)

I see Adam Carroll won the A1GP race, cue those confused by the rugby team to debate why he's driving for the Irish team...

Honda were much improved. Was that just a fluke, or is Ross Brawn just that good. We'll found out over the summer, but my money is on the latter.

Bourdais did well. He's taken a long time to get to F1, and there is a fair bit of history with those coming from the States series' struggling in F1, so good to see him doing well.

BTW, for all his colourful language, Coulthard was solely to blame for his off.

[Roman Abramovich]

Didn't Piquet cause the first corner crash? (I've seen a brief highlight, was he the car on the far inside?)

I see Adam Carroll won the A1GP race, cue those confused by the rugby team to debate why he's driving for the Irish team...

Honda were much improved. Was that just a fluke, or is Ross Brawn just that good. We'll found out over the summer, but my money is on the latter.

Bourdais did well. He's taken a long time to get to F1, and there is a fair bit of history with those coming from the States series' struggling in F1, so good to see him doing well.

BTW, for all his colourful language, Coulthard was solely to blame for his off.


honda were heading in the right direction before brawn. these things take time like.

[RonnyB]

honda were heading in the right direction before brawn. these things take time like.

Yup but having a guy of his experience will help them make the improvement at a much quicker rate I would have thought.

God I love the banning of the electronic aids already.

[Tube a Pringles]

Even in the dry the cars look better coming out of the corners. Brawn will do a good job.....he's already fucked most of the old aerodynamics guys out.

[dotty]

Yup but having a guy of his experience will help them make the improvement at a much quicker rate I would have thought.

God I love the banning of the electronic aids already.

long may it continue.

was at the race sunday and it was great,fantastic atmosphere even though we were baking in the heat.

bmw look even closer to the top two than last year which can only be good,toyota have definitely improved and williams particularly rosberg should also feature this year.

lewis is a class act.

all in all a good season ahead hopefully.

[Roman Abramovich]

long may it continue.

was at the race sunday and it was great,fantastic atmosphere even though we were baking in the heat.

bmw look even closer to the top two than last year which can only be good,toyota have definitely improved and williams particularly rosberg should also feature this year.

lewis is a class act.

all in all a good season ahead hopefully.

i do think f1 is slowely returning to the "eddie jordan" days.
the days where watercooler chat on a monday was about f1 sunday rather than everton v fulham.

i loved me jordan so i did. loved it.

[liam2me]

gotta love hamilton's interview, went something like "yeah was a good race, wasn't too difficult though, i didn't find it that demanding". FFS thats one way to wind up the rest of them, good man hamilton

[KolaKubes]

Genuinely gutted this shite is back on.

[dotty]

i do think f1 is slowely returning to the "eddie jordan" days.
the days where watercooler chat on a monday was about f1 sunday rather than everton v fulham.

i loved me jordan so i did. loved it.

yeah good days,10 year anniversary of that great sunday in spa this august,that was a race and a half.

shame the way it ended,its currently force india.

last year was fantastic viewing and hopefully this year will be the same,started well so far.

c'mon massa!

[dotty]

Genuinely gutted this shite is back on.

why?

let down by a female petrolhead in the past?

[KolaKubes]

why?

let down by a female petrolhead in the past?

Very boring.

I'm giving you credit for the dig though. ;)

[dotty]

Very boring.

I'm giving you credit for the dig though. ;)

fair enough,you cop a fair bit on the forums though.:)

used to watch it religiously during the 90s but interest waned last few years.

last season was good and sundays race was eventful,taking away drivers aids will make it much more watchable - "award driver skill,punish driver error."

[Papa Smurf]

The lack of traction control is going to be brilliant. The quality of drivers out there this season is the best in a long while I think, Bourdais and Vettel are going to be excellent.Was dissapointed with Kubica's race pace, what happened there? I just wish there was a driver out there who had a bit of Charisma and a bit of madness. I just cant take to Lewis, he is a fantastic driver and he will win multiple world titles but what is it about him that I cant like, it was the same with Schumacher Snr. Maybe i just like the underdog.
I need a driver to support but theres nobody doing it for me since Montoya left......help...... driver commendations welcome...

[dotty]

The lack of traction control is going to be brilliant. The quality of drivers out there this season is the best in a long while I think, Bourdais and Vettel are going to be excellent.Was dissapointed with Kubica's race pace, what happened there? I just wish there was a driver out there who had a bit of Charisma and a bit of madness. I just cant take to Lewis, he is a fantastic driver and he will win multiple world titles but what is it about him that I cant like, it was the same with Schumacher Snr. Maybe i just like the underdog.
I need a driver to support but theres nobody doing it for me since Montoya left......help...... driver commendations welcome...

yeah liked montoya too,his driving style and personality.

to be fair to kimi he gave me one of my best f1 moments - happened 2 seasons ago at schumachers final race,interlagos,ther e was a presentation prior to the warm lap made by pele to the german,afterwards martin brundle while doing his grid interviews asked kimi what he thought of it all,kimi said he didnt know what had happened he was too busy taking a shit!

[Papa Smurf]

afterwards martin brundle while doing his grid interviews asked kimi what he thought of it all,kimi said he didnt know what had happened he was too busy taking a shit!

Christ ya I remember that it was feckin priceless....said in his usual expressionless fashion as well. Not the kinda quote you get everday in F1. If only we got to see more of the piss head Kimi more often.....taking his lad out in lap dancing clubs and ending up naked in a residents garden next to the Monza track....Kimi is a bit of a mad fecker alright.

[Scott-Parker]

Now that Arsenal are playing shit I see you have changed your colours. Flip-Flop-Flip-Flop.

Your a joke.

[Roman Abramovich]

i go to lunch and come back to see the tossers are out in force.
nice 1.

[Scott-Parker]

i go to lunch and come back to see the tossers are out in force.
nice 1.

Your nothing.

[Roman Abramovich]

Your nothing.

go suck lamps off cum bucket.

[Tube a Pringles]

2 races in and Alonso is swinging his cock already....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7312280.stm

Alonso has had the measure of Massa since that wet race last year when Massa nudged him on the way past. (Remember Alonso seeing the TV camera in the post race area and having a pop at Massa). He's a cunt, but he's a smart cunt.

[Roman Abramovich]

alonso is a cunt.

im loving this season though. totally unpredictable.
tought toyota would do ok this year and the signs are promising.
its still between mclaren and ferrari but id say the battle for 3th, 4th and 5th will be huge

[RonnyB]

I still think its Kimi's to throw away. Kovalainen is showing signs already that he can live with Mr. Hamilton. Could be a good battle at McMerc.

[Actin The Sham]

alonso is a cunt.

im loving this season though. totally unpredictable.
tought toyota would do ok this year and the signs are promising.
its still between mclaren and ferrari but id say the battle for 3th, 4th and 5th will be huge

BBC have won the rights to F1 from ITV starting next year.

No commercials, and skyplus as well.


Result, eh?

From planet F1:

BBC wins back Formula One rights
Thursday 20th March 2008

F1 will return to the BBC from the 2009 season after the corporation secured a five-year television rights deal, it was announced today.


Twelve years after ITV won the rights and began broadcasting the sport, the BBC have managed to bring Formula One back in a major coup for the organisation.


Bernie Ecclestone, chief executive of Formula One Administration Limited, said: "I am delighted to conclude this new deal with the BBC.


"I wish to thank ITV for their commitment to Formula One and the high quality of their coverage.


"It is an exciting time in Formula One and the BBC has some innovative new ideas to consolidate and expand our UK fanbase."


BBC Sport director of sport rights Dominic Coles said on BBC Sport online: "The biggest motorsporting event in the world is returning home after 12 years.


"We were delighted when Bernie Ecclestone approached us about the return of F1 to the BBC.


"F1 is a crown jewel of sports broadcasting, so to bring the rights back to their traditional home from 2009 is tremendously exciting.


"Fans will be able to enjoy uninterrupted, state of the art and innovative coverage from BBC Sport, across all of our TV, radio and new media platforms, for the first time since 1996."

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[Roman Abramovich]

BBC have won the rights to F1 from ITV starting next year.

No commercials, and skyplus as well.


Result, eh?

From planet F1:

BBC wins back Formula One rights
Thursday 20th March 2008

F1 will return to the BBC from the 2009 season after the corporation secured a five-year television rights deal, it was announced today.


Twelve years after ITV won the rights and began broadcasting the sport, the BBC have managed to bring Formula One back in a major coup for the organisation.


Bernie Ecclestone, chief executive of Formula One Administration Limited, said: "I am delighted to conclude this new deal with the BBC.


"I wish to thank ITV for their commitment to Formula One and the high quality of their coverage.


"It is an exciting time in Formula One and the BBC has some innovative new ideas to consolidate and expand our UK fanbase."


BBC Sport director of sport rights Dominic Coles said on BBC Sport online: "The biggest motorsporting event in the world is returning home after 12 years.


"We were delighted when Bernie Ecclestone approached us about the return of F1 to the BBC.


"F1 is a crown jewel of sports broadcasting, so to bring the rights back to their traditional home from 2009 is tremendously exciting.


"Fans will be able to enjoy uninterrupted, state of the art and innovative coverage from BBC Sport, across all of our TV, radio and new media platforms, for the first time since 1996."

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i have setanta so it doesnt really matter either way

[Papa Smurf]

Will be interesting to see who the BBC have as their presenters, theres talk of Richard Hammond from top gear being invloved anyway. That would be good. Cant stand Steve Ryder.
Strange that ITV have given it up though especially since their viewers are up 40% for each race since Hamilton has arrived on the scene. I assume they have ditched it to allow them put some bobs into getting champions on ITV from next year?

[Actin The Sham]

i have setanta so it doesnt really matter either way

Setanta.

Four guys in room in Dublin watching the race on TV and talking about what they can see while reading out emails from "fans" in Mullingar and Clonmel asking "why has the Ferrari got hubcaps?"

Then a commercial break.



I too have Setanta, but I never watch their F1 "coverage," on it.

I can't wait for it to be back on the beeb.


Commercial free is a huge bonus.

[Tube a Pringles]

Will be interesting to see who the BBC have as their presenters, theres talk of Richard Hammond from top gear being invloved anyway. That would be good. Cant stand Steve Ryder.
Strange that ITV have given it up though especially since their viewers are up 40% for each race since Hamilton has arrived on the scene. I assume they have ditched it to allow them put some bobs into getting champions on ITV from next year?


Bernie went directly to the BBC, ITV didn't even get a chance to bid.....

[Roman Abramovich]

Setanta.

Four guys in room in Dublin watching the race on TV and talking about what they can see while reading out emails from "fans" in Mullingar and Clonmel asking "why has the Ferrari got hubcaps?"

Then a commercial break.



I too have Setanta, but I never watch their F1 "coverage," on it.

I can't wait for it to be back on the beeb.


Commercial free is a huge bonus.


huge bonus. dont like itv anymore.
shame sky dont get it. theyd produce one hell of a package.
imagine the hd, the fan cams, id bet within two years youd probably be able to pick any car and watch that...... be your own director as it were.
i reckon if they werent tied into a1 you may have had them jumping into bed this time. maybe next

[Actin The Sham]

huge bonus. dont like itv anymore.
shame sky dont get it. theyd produce one hell of a package.
imagine the hd, the fan cams, id bet within two years youd probably be able to pick any car and watch that...... be your own director as it were.
i reckon if they werent tied into a1 you may have had them jumping into bed this time. maybe next


They had it in 2002 and 2003, with all of the features you mention, but they didn't get the viewers to justify it. It was pay per view, so maybe if it was on Sky Sports 1 they might get people to watch it.


This is an article announcing it:

Formula One goes interactive on Sky Digital
Monday, January 28 2002, 04:56 GMT

By Neil Wilkes, Editor

A new service broadcasting live and interactive Formula One Grand Prix coverage is to launch on Sky Digital.

The service will run across all three days of each Grand Prix weekend in the 2002 and 2003 seasons, providing live in-depth coverage of each Race and all Practice and Qualifying sessions through a range of interactive options. The new F1 season begins in Australia on the first weekend of March.

On Race day, viewers will be able to see live uninterrupted race coverage, choose from a range of alternative views, access a stream of statistics and gain exclusive access behind the scenes of the Grand Prix. During Qualifying and Practice, viewers will be able to choose between different live feeds, view race preparations and access key highlights.

All Sky Digital households will be offered the interactive F1 service on a pay-per-view basis, with a one-off fee for each 3-day Grand Prix weekend. More details of charges and lineups are to be announced in the coming weeks.

"We are so pleased to be working with Sky and excited that F1 can now offer British viewers such radically different coverage. It has taken time, with F1 investing heavily in the best broadcast technology so we can genuinely take fans closer," said Bernie Ecclestone, CEO of Formula One Management. "Now, alongside traditional race broadcasts, we can offer truly interactive coverage of Grand Prix weekends. It's going to be exceptional."

"Formula 1 followers are amongst the most technically aware of all sports fans, and they will be excited by this new service - the depth of the information now available, and the choice of how to watch every race," said Vic Wakeling, Managing Director of Sky Sports. "The interactive experience we have gained since the launch of Sky digital also allows us to work together to enhance and develop the service still further over the next couple of seasons. This is the future, and it is available now. The frustration of having to sit passively in front of a television set - wanting to know more, wanting to see something different - will be a dark and distant memory."
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[Roman Abramovich]

They had it in 2002 and 2003, with all of the features you mention, but they didn't get the viewers to justify it. It was pay per view, so maybe if it was on Sky Sports 1 they might get people to watch it.


This is an article announcing it:

Formula One goes interactive on Sky Digital
Monday, January 28 2002, 04:56 GMT

By Neil Wilkes, Editor

A new service broadcasting live and interactive Formula One Grand Prix coverage is to launch on Sky Digital.

The service will run across all three days of each Grand Prix weekend in the 2002 and 2003 seasons, providing live in-depth coverage of each Race and all Practice and Qualifying sessions through a range of interactive options. The new F1 season begins in Australia on the first weekend of March.

On Race day, viewers will be able to see live uninterrupted race coverage, choose from a range of alternative views, access a stream of statistics and gain exclusive access behind the scenes of the Grand Prix. During Qualifying and Practice, viewers will be able to choose between different live feeds, view race preparations and access key highlights.

All Sky Digital households will be offered the interactive F1 service on a pay-per-view basis, with a one-off fee for each 3-day Grand Prix weekend. More details of charges and lineups are to be announced in the coming weeks.

"We are so pleased to be working with Sky and excited that F1 can now offer British viewers such radically different coverage. It has taken time, with F1 investing heavily in the best broadcast technology so we can genuinely take fans closer," said Bernie Ecclestone, CEO of Formula One Management. "Now, alongside traditional race broadcasts, we can offer truly interactive coverage of Grand Prix weekends. It's going to be exceptional."

"Formula 1 followers are amongst the most technically aware of all sports fans, and they will be excited by this new service - the depth of the information now available, and the choice of how to watch every race," said Vic Wakeling, Managing Director of Sky Sports. "The interactive experience we have gained since the launch of Sky digital also allows us to work together to enhance and develop the service still further over the next couple of seasons. This is the future, and it is available now. The frustration of having to sit passively in front of a television set - wanting to know more, wanting to see something different - will be a dark and distant memory."
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i bought the first 3 races at the premium price rather than the season ticket deal and it was crap. they didnt know what they were doing.
especially considering wasnt that the first full f1 season without murray walker and mika hakk?

they did have shit camera coverage. look at how the soccer has evolved since then and the multiple games on the one channel etc and the way f1 has embraced listening into team orders and drivers etc.

twould be a whole new ball game. but key to its success would have to be skysports 1

[Tube a Pringles]

Great to see Kubica on pole and the BMWs mixing it with the Mclaren and Ferraris.

[dotty]

alonso
hamilton

part 4303.

c'mon massa.

[kevinbitzz]

Great to see Kubica on pole and the BMWs mixing it with the Mclaren and Ferraris.

Leading the Monaco grand prix at the moment,


Haven't watched too much f1 recently however,

Monaco + Rain = Great race to watch

[Deadman]

What an awesome race. Loved every moment(apart from the moment the great World champ decided to ram poor Sutil). Hamilton would have even lapped Raikkonen if it were not for the Rosberg crash. And if it were not for the Rosberg crash Sutil would never have been rammed by Raikkonen. But C'est La Vie.

The bad luck of Heikki continues. When will that guy get a clean run eh?
Nice to see Kubica overtaking Massa after the pit stops. Ferrari thought they had it so that was sweet. But overall it was an exciting(yes I used that word) race. Roll on Canada in two weeks.

[Roman Abramovich]

doubt ya hamilton biyyyy!!! what a race.

[Actin The Sham]

What an awesome race. Loved every moment(apart from the moment the great World champ decided to ram poor Sutil). Hamilton would have even lapped Raikkonen if it were not for the Rosberg crash. And if it were not for the Rosberg crash Sutil would never have been rammed by Raikkonen. But C'est La Vie.

The bad luck of Heikki continues. When will that guy get a clean run eh?
Nice to see Kubica overtaking Massa after the pit stops. Ferrari thought they had it so that was sweet. But overall it was an exciting(yes I used that word) race. Roll on Canada in two weeks.

Nobody was rammed. Did you see the race? As Raikkonen came out of the tunnel he was travelling at 181 mph. You could see the wet patch on his right hand side, and you could also see the car begin to fishtail as soon as he hit it. If he braked then, he would have locked the wheels and ploughed into the back of sutil as sutil braked for the chicane, so he tried to steer into the skid and get the back wheels to grip. Then when he did regain control, Sutil had (rightly) begun his braking for the chicane. It was an unavoidable racing accident, so to say that the World Champion "rammed" the Force India car and thus put himself further behind in the World Championship Title Race is simply incorrect.

Monaco is a good circuit, and because of it's history and heritage, it deserves its place on the calendar. I've enjoyed it myself when I've travelled there for the Grand Prix. But to be honest, when you mix rain and a tightly twisting street circuit, and add over twenty F1 cars each capable of over 300 Kph (all set up for dry qualifying on saturday by the way), then you have a recipe for a lottery.

And yesterday, while exciting, was a lottery. Most of the mechanics and drivers don't like racing there, (cramped garages, no run off areas, tiny pits) but the sponsors and the business side of F1 love it because of the glamour associated with the Principality and it's Royal Family. Now that it's out of the way for another year, it's back to normal racing in two weeks time.

[Roman Abramovich]

Nobody was rammed. Did you see the race? As Raikkonen came out of the tunnel he was travelling at 181 mph. You could see the wet patch on his right hand side, and you could also see the car begin to fishtail as soon as he hit it. If he braked then, he would have locked the wheels and ploughed into the back of sutil as sutil braked for the chicane, so he tried to steer into the skid and get the back wheels to grip. Then when he did regain control, Sutil had (rightly) begun his braking for the chicane. It was an unavoidable racing accident, so to say that the World Champion "rammed" the Force India car and thus put himself further behind in the World Championship Title Race is simply incorrect.

Monaco is a good circuit, and because of it's history and heritage, it deserves its place on the calendar. I've enjoyed it myself when I've travelled there for the Grand Prix. But to be honest, when you mix rain and a tightly twisting street circuit, and add over twenty F1 cars each capable of over 300 Kph (all set up for dry qualifying on saturday by the way), then you have a recipe for a lottery.

And yesterday, while exciting, was a lottery. Most of the mechanics and drivers don't like racing there, (cramped garages, no run off areas, tiny pits) but the sponsors and the business side of F1 love it because of the glamour associated with the Principality and it's Royal Family. Now that it's out of the way for another year, it's back to normal racing in two weeks time.

until singapore and valencia!!!

[Actin The Sham]

until singapore and valencia!!!

Singapore and Valencia are newly designed street circuits.
No heritage, no tradition, no glamour, and especially in Singapore, no class.

Did you see how "the best built cars in the world" get on yesterday again?


Heh heh heh.......

[Roman Abramovich]

Singapore and Valencia are newly designed street circuits.
No heritage, no tradition, no glamour, and especially in Singapore, no class.

Did you see how "the best built cars in the world" get on yesterday again?


Heh heh heh.......


yes they all that but they also very much street races. singapore will have the nighttime thing all about it and valencia well, valencia has nothing going for it except being a street race.

there wont be much run offs in either of them like so expect some more of the same. i love street races. i find a street race better than most of the track races. only down side is no rain or errors and you get fuck all passing etc really.

[Tube a Pringles]

Raikkonen shat the bed man. He was on the brakes already when he hit the wet patch. He knew it was his only chance out of the tunnel as Sutil was suprisingly quick everywhere else.

[Actin The Sham]

Raikkonen shat the bed man. He was on the brakes already when he hit the wet patch. He knew it was his only chance out of the tunnel as Sutil was suprisingly quick everywhere else.


Surprisingly quick around a street circuit. That is the only place, realistically to overtake in Monte Carlo. Do you remember the time that Senna and Mansell had their famous dice there back in the 1992?


That was real racing, with two experienced drivers driving reasonably equally matched cars:

M4eOdZekw5I

[Tube a Pringles]

Mansell was leading when he got a puncture. Ended up behind Senna. Senna brake tested him for 10 laps. Old Nige had to be lifted out of the car at the end.....he was fucked after it.

Pure class.

There is a Senna Monaco lap somewhere on the interweb, where he more or less claims he had an out of body experience driving it. He regularly took pole by more than a second / second and a half there.


In fairness to Hamilton, he is pretty good.

[Roman Abramovich]

Surprisingly quick around a street circuit. That is the only place, realistically to overtake in Monte Carlo. Do you remember the time that Senna and Mansell had their famous dice there back in the 1992?


That was real racing, with two experienced drivers driving reasonably equally matched cars:

M4eOdZekw5I

wheel to wheel racing. mansell was better in the corners for the whole race but senna had the speed on the straights. think i fell asleep half way through only to be woken without about 5-6 laps to go.


see the video for signapore track from google earth?
cant wait to see the cars driving under the stand. Imagine sitting right above it feeling the vibrations under your hole.
i actually think its going to be a cracking place to have a race. I presume in the park areas theyll do run offs like a normal track but in the city it will be barriers. Imagine the money they charging for them stand tickets.

Cant wait really.

[Roman Abramovich]

In fairness to Hamilton, he is pretty good.

hamilton has totally reignited my interest in it. Not since the days of eddie jordan have i been so into it.
i think the guys a class act. He gets out of that car as fresh as he gets into it. I like the fact that his oull man and brother etc get so excited for him and stuff. they suffered alot so he could make a huge go of it.

Only thing so far i dont like is that he left england so soon to tax dodge.

[Tube a Pringles]

wheel to wheel racing. mansell was better in the corners for the whole race but senna had the speed on the straights. think i fell asleep half way through only to be woken without about 5-6 laps to go.


see the video for signapore track from google earth?
cant wait to see the cars driving under the stand. Imagine sitting right above it feeling the vibrations under your hole.i actually think its going to be a cracking place to have a race. I presume in the park areas theyll do run offs like a normal track but in the city it will be barriers. Imagine the money they charging for them stand tickets.

Cant wait really.

Every so often you are ghey as christmas.

This season is turning out to be a good one.......twill go down to the wire I reckon.

[Tube a Pringles]

Only thing so far i dont like is that he left england so soon to tax dodge.

Another fucker moving to Switzerland...

*cough*

[Actin The Sham]

Mansell was leading when he got a puncture. Ended up behind Senna. Senna brake tested him for 10 laps. Old Nige had to be lifted out of the car at the end.....he was fucked after it.

Pure class.

There is a Senna Monaco lap somewhere on the interweb, where he more or less claims he had an out of body experience driving it. He regularly took pole by more than a second / second and a half there.


In fairness to Hamilton, he is pretty good.

Senna was superb. Mansell, Senna, and Prost all raced against each other with reasonably similar cars. Where would you get three World Champions racing now? Raikkonen, and Alonso have vastly different cars, and
neither of them are anywhere near the standard of Senna or Mansell.

Hamilton might be as good as Hakkinen in a few years time. Try to distance yourself from the British Media Hype: Remember Damon Hill? And more recently Jenson Button?

[Tube a Pringles]

The problem with a lot of these new guys is that they lack race craft, the ability to race each other. They can put in fast laps ok, but can't race ( just like Hill). Raikkonen came straight from F3 ffs. Thankfully this year seens to be bringing racers to the fore, I reckon because of the lack of TC. Hamilton appears to be capable of making a pass. It's also put Kubica streets ahead of Heidfeld.

I did have high hopes for Glock as he had a fantastic F2 season last year.......but he's clearly shite.

[jank]

see the video for signapore track from google earth?
cant wait to see the cars driving under the stand. Imagine sitting right above it feeling the vibrations under your hole.
i actually think its going to be a cracking place to have a race. I presume in the park areas theyll do run offs like a normal track but in the city it will be barriers. Imagine the money they charging for them stand tickets.

Ill be there in that stand! Cant fucking wait!

[Roman Abramovich]

Ill be there in that stand! Cant fucking wait!

i didnt think the tickets were on sale for that stand yet.
well done though.

[jank]

i didnt think the tickets were on sale for that stand yet.
well done though.

They went on sale ages ago about March or Feb.
Think that stand is sold out now actually. It will be quite a start to my RTW trip

[Roman Abramovich]

They went on sale ages ago about March or Feb.
Think that stand is sold out now actually. It will be quite a start to my RTW trip

how much did it cost ya?

[jank]

150 euro for 3 days! Not bad at all really. Will have a good view of a few corners, tv in front of the stand to know what else is going on and a downtown view of singapore to boot! Should be a great event!

[Deadman]

Nobody was rammed. Did you see the race? As Raikkonen came out of the tunnel he was travelling at 181 mph. You could see the wet patch on his right hand side, and you could also see the car begin to fishtail as soon as he hit it. If he braked then, he would have locked the wheels and ploughed into the back of sutil as sutil braked for the chicane, so he tried to steer into the skid and get the back wheels to grip. Then when he did regain control, Sutil had (rightly) begun his braking for the chicane. It was an unavoidable racing accident, so to say that the World Champion "rammed" the Force India car and thus put himself further behind in the World Championship Title Race is simply incorrect.

Monaco is a good circuit, and because of it's history and heritage, it deserves its place on the calendar. I've enjoyed it myself when I've travelled there for the Grand Prix. But to be honest, when you mix rain and a tightly twisting street circuit, and add over twenty F1 cars each capable of over 300 Kph (all set up for dry qualifying on saturday by the way), then you have a recipe for a lottery.

And yesterday, while exciting, was a lottery. Most of the mechanics and drivers don't like racing there, (cramped garages, no run off areas, tiny pits) but the sponsors and the business side of F1 love it because of the glamour associated with the Principality and it's Royal Family. Now that it's out of the way for another year, it's back to normal racing in two weeks time.

And everybody avoided it because............. .??????

[Actin The Sham]

And everybody avoided it because............. .??????

Possibly because they were happy to parade around in a procession, but Raikkonen was racing.

Sutil reminds me of Andrea De Crashiris from years back. Himself, Piquet Jr., and Bourdais should be made pre qualify on their own on thursdays from now on, and Bourdais went straight over that chicane twice on consecutive laps earlier in the race, as did DC who actually lives in Monaco, and drives that road every day!

Sutil: The Human Chicane.

:grin:

[Roman Abramovich]

it was harsh on sutil especially with how shit rak was throughout the day. but still there was nothing that could be done and if anything sutil should have been watching his mirrors and should have seen it and could have avoided it himself.

[Actin The Sham]

it was harsh on sutil especially with how shit rak was throughout the day. but still there was nothing that could be done and if anything sutil should have been watching his mirrors and should have seen it and could have avoided it himself.


It was a schoolboy error. If you are driving a slow car and the world champion is behind you, then you should at least be looking in your mirrors approaching chicanes.

Kimi is not the best driver in my opinion, but to say that he rammed Sutil is factually incorrect. That implies that it was deliberate, it was a racing accident, that's what happens in Motor Racing.

[Roman Abramovich]

It was a schoolboy error. If you are driving a slow car and the world champion is behind you, then you should at least be looking in your mirrors approaching chicanes.

Kimi is not the best driver in my opinion, but to say that he rammed Sutil is factually incorrect. That implies that it was deliberate, it was a racing accident, that's what happens in Motor Racing.

especially in the rain.

[dotty]

still very disappointing for sutil who had a fine race to that point.

is massa world champion material?

has been discarded many times in the post,looks better equipped this year.

in saying that he raced poorly sunday,taking away hamiltons slice of good fortune he still lost out to kubica (who imo is the future not lewis.)

[Roman Abramovich]

still very disappointing for sutil who had a fine race to that point.

is massa world champion material?

has been discarded many times in the post,looks better equipped this year.

in saying that he raced poorly sunday,taking away hamiltons slice of good fortune he still lost out to kubica (who imo is the future not lewis.)

lewis is the tits man. how many times now has he put himself on podium after bad accidents, bad mc claren calls etc.
I think this year is tougher for him but still. Kubica and rosberg are good drivers. As for massa? i think hes capitalising on kimi being off form than actually being better than him,

[dotty]

lewis is the tits man. how many times now has he put himself on podium after bad accidents, bad mc claren calls etc.
I think this year is tougher for him but still. Kubica and rosberg are good drivers. As for massa? i think hes capitalising on kimi being off form than actually being better than him,

not doubting lewis for a minute,superb temperment,champions hip winning temperment,just think we will be treated to a few fascinating years to come with the duel between him and kubica,my main hope for f1 is that bmw continue to improve and we will get at least three teams challenging at the top of the grid.

havent been this interested/excited by f1 since the jordan days of the late nineties,frentzen going for a WC!
(10 year anniversary of that day in spa this august)
qKbQQA_8BnE

[Roman Abramovich]

not doubting lewis for a minute,superb temperment,champions hip winning temperment,just think we will be treated to a few fascinating years to come with the duel between him and kubica,my main hope for f1 is that bmw continue to improve and we will get at least three teams challenging at the top of the grid.

havent been this interested/excited by f1 since the jordan days of the late nineties,frentzen going for a WC!
(10 year anniversary of that day in spa this august)
qKbQQA_8BnE


happy fuckin days lad. i remember that race as if it was yesterday. every f1 race should be in the wet. heh heh heh.
i have both model cars scale 1:18 from that race. They released limited edition runs. Fucked up though. took them out of the boxes and threw the boxes away. theyd be worth a few hundred each now.

the cars look so different back then even though youd think they arent. its only when you see the footage now you realised how chunky they look.

[dotty]

happy fuckin days lad. i remember that race as if it was yesterday. every f1 race should be in the wet. heh heh heh.
i have both model cars scale 1:18 from that race. They released limited edition runs. Fucked up though. took them out of the boxes and threw the boxes away. theyd be worth a few hundred each now.

the cars look so different back then even though youd think they arent. its only when you see the footage now you realised how chunky they look.

nicest looking jordan too,cobra at the front by the nosecone is class.

actually have that f1 season in review purely for round 13..

[Tube a Pringles]

I'd rate Kubica personally. He's 6 - 0 up on Heidfeld in qualifying, and he's a great racer.

Massa world champion material? No. Not mentally strong enough. Anyone remember Alonso bullying him in front of the cameras 2 years ago before going up on the podium....he nearly shit himself.

[dotty]

I'd rate Kubica personally. He's 6 - 0 up on Heidfeld in qualifying, and he's a great racer.

Massa world champion material? No. Not mentally strong enough. Anyone remember Alonso bullying him in front of the cameras 2 years ago before going up on the podium....he nearly shit himself.

yeah just seems like a nice guy,well liked on the grid,perhaps lacks the ruthlessness needed to win championships,when the pressure is on hes likely to crumble.

kubica is the real deal.

rosberg is another who given a decent drive would be a contender.

[RonnyB]

I think Kubica is a class act myself. Very tall for an F1 driver but I think he's a future world champ if he keeps up this consistancy.

Its races like Sunday that have me still wishing that Montoya was still in F1 and in a McLaren.

[dotty]

I think Kubica is a class act myself. Very tall for an F1 driver but I think he's a future world champ if he keeps up this consistancy.

Its races like Sunday that have me still wishing that Montoya was still in F1 and in a McLaren.

always had a soft spot for montoya,raced the right way,will never forget when i think in his debut season in the williams threw all reputations out the window and overtook schumacher at the first corner at interlagos i think it was,fantastic stuff,never had a quick/reliable enough car under him to consistantly perform,grew frustrated and lost interest and ultimately his drive.

[dotty]

SW5hwQGbIpQ

[Roman Abramovich]

what another good race. championship is wide open.

as for my mans crash?

like father like son.
heh heh heh.

[Roman Abramovich]

someone's going to be getting the slaps:

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v643662283dztgtQ?con firmed=1

still me fav moment of the season so far....

[Actin The Sham]

Everybody was on here bitching about Kimi "ramming" Sutil at Monaco, when it was an obvious racing accident.


Hamilton ran into the back of him yesterday while he was stopped at a red light waiting to get out of the pits, and yet nobody yet has said anything about that on here.

Y'ere all fantasy fairweather fans and ye get ye're opinions directly from the UK media. Ye all think Hamilton is the dogs bollocks, and ye hate Ferrari.

Well, fuck the whole lot of ye: for me Ferrari will always be the best team in F1.

McLaren Mercedes are a shower of technofreaks. And now their driver can't even stop at a red fucking light!

What a tosser. He should be given a three race suspension until he can learn how to drive.


Forza Italia!

http://formula1sport.net/wp-content/uploads/formula12007carshots/raikkonen_malaysia2. jpg

[Roman Abramovich]

Everybody was on here bitching about Kimi "ramming" Sutil at Monaco, when it was an obvious racing accident.


Hamilton ran into the back of him yesterday while he was stopped at a red light waiting to get out of the pits, and yet nobody yet has said anything about that on here.

Y'ere all fantasy fairweather fans and ye get ye're opinions directly from the UK media. Ye all think Hamilton is the dogs bollocks, and ye hate Ferrari.

Well, fuck the whole lot of ye: for me Ferrari will always be the best team in F1.

McLaren Mercedes are a shower of technofreaks. And now their driver can't even stop at a red fucking light!

What a tosser. He should be given a three race suspension until he can learn how to drive.


Forza Italia!

http://formula1sport.net/wp-content/uploads/formula12007carshots/raikkonen_malaysia2. jpg


i didnt knock kimi at all.......in fact i reckon the only reason he didnt go ape shit with hamilton was because he done the same 2 weeks earlier.
in my opinion the pit lane fucked up because for me the safety car was well gone and the light should have been green.

[Papa Smurf]

always had a soft spot for montoya,raced the right way,will never forget when i think in his debut season in the williams threw all reputations out the window and overtook schumacher at the first corner at interlagos i think it was,fantastic stuff,never had a quick/reliable enough car under him to consistantly perform,grew frustrated and lost interest and ultimately his drive.

I looked after Montoya's travelling flag which we passed from race to race starting in 2001- we as a group of fans got to know Juan Pablo and his wife Connie quite well as a result. We had a yearly party/meal each year on the eve of the US GP in Indianapolis which Juan Pablo and his family would attend. Got to meet a lot of cool/loopy fans from south america and had a lot of fun at the USGP.
F1 lost a lot of its appeal when he left, kinda getting back into it again now though. Enjoyed last 2 races.

[Actin The Sham]

i didnt knock kimi at all.......in fact i reckon the only reason he didnt go ape shit with hamilton was because he done the same 2 weeks earlier.in my opinion the pit lane fucked up because for me the safety car was well gone and the light should have been green.

He done the same 2 weeks earlier?

Look, I know you, and I know you are an intelligent man, but to compare a racing driver losing the back of his car at 270 Kph and hitting the back of the car in front of him while jockeying for position out on the circuit, with some gowl revving the shit out of his car and accelerating away from his pit garage before crashing into a stationary car stopped at a red light at the exit from pitlane makes you sound like you are as thick as two short planks.

Now, as I said, you are intelligent, so the only conclusion I can draw is that the media in England is influencing your opinions, with their "our poor Lewis, sure God love him, he is the best driver out there, and those other Johnny Foreigner types are trying to stop him."


Are you supposed to stop at a red light?

Yes or no, don't mind all the safety car shite, are you supposed to stop at a red light and wait for it to go green?

Yes or no.


Lewis Hamilton drives like he is still only 12:

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/i/bcst/yeurope/yahooukie/bbc/2864/63228693.jpg

[dotty]

missed my first race of the season,viewing wasnt really possible with the time difference and starting work at 6 this morning.

anyone know where i could watch highlights of the race?

by the sounds of the reports ive read sounds a shocker from hamilton,amazed kimi hasnt had a real go,fia should look at a sterner sanction than the ten grid placings at magny cours,second incident this season where hamiltons driving has been called into question - there was that incident earlier in the season where he "mysterically" slowed resulting in alonso crashing into the back of him.

i never accused kimi of any wrong doing at monaco,it was just very unfortunate for sutil who had driven a fine race to that point.

one thing that hasnt been mentioned here yet is the excellent maiden victory for kubica and him now leading the championship race,long may it continue,the win is even more sweeter considering what happened the lad on the same track 12 months prior.

[Actin The Sham]

missed my first race of the season,viewing wasnt really possible with the time difference and starting work at 6 this morning.

anyone know where i could watch highlights of the race?

by the sounds of the reports ive read sounds a shocker from hamilton,amazed kimi hasnt had a real go,fia should look at a sterner sanction than the ten grid placings at magny cours,second incident this season where hamiltons driving has been called into question - there was that incident earlier in the season where he "mysterically" slowed resulting in alonso crashing into the back of him.

i never accused kimi of any wrong doing at monaco,it was just very unfortunate for sutil who had driven a fine race to that point.

one thing that hasnt been mentioned here yet is the excellent maiden victory for kubica and him now leading the championship race,long may it continue,the win is even more sweeter considering what happened the lad on the same track 12 months prior.


You were never the intended target of my earlier rant, you are one of the knowledgeable ones, the others know who they are.

Try www.itv.com

[dotty]

Try www.itv.com (http://www.itv.com)

cheers man but..."THE VIDEO YOU ARE TRYING TO WATCH CANNOT BE VIEWED FROM YOUR CURRENT COUNTRY OR LOCATION."

will check out ten's website to see do they have highlights clips as they show the races here,no doubt there will be youtube links available too in the next day or so.

any plans to head to any of the races this year ATS?

and how long more will canada be on the F1 calendar,reports of the cracks etc...

[Actin The Sham]

cheers man but..."THE VIDEO YOU ARE TRYING TO WATCH CANNOT BE VIEWED FROM YOUR CURRENT COUNTRY OR LOCATION."

will check out ten's website to see do they have highlights clips as they show the races here,no doubt there will be youtube links available too in the next day or so.

any plans to head to any of the races this year ATS?

and how long more will canada be on the F1 calendar,reports of the cracks etc...


Sorry about that. Try the autosport website as well, or maybe do a search.
I'm hoping to make my regular trip to Spa Francochamps for the Belgian F1. I love that circuit.

[dotty]

Sorry about that. Try the autosport website as well, or maybe do a search.
I'm hoping to make my regular trip to Spa Francochamps for the Belgian F1. I love that circuit.

have they fixed your fence yet?;)

went to my first gp weekend here at albert park,literally two minute walk from where im staying,loved it.

will definitely do a european gp next season,thinking monza just for the craic with the tifosi.

[Roman Abramovich]

He done the same 2 weeks earlier?

Look, I know you, and I know you are an intelligent man, but to compare a racing driver losing the back of his car at 270 Kph and hitting the back of the car in front of him while jockeying for position out on the circuit, with some gowl revving the shit out of his car and accelerating away from his pit garage before crashing into a stationary car stopped at a red light at the exit from pitlane makes you sound like you are as thick as two short planks.

Now, as I said, you are intelligent, so the only conclusion I can draw is that the media in England is influencing your opinions, with their "our poor Lewis, sure God love him, he is the best driver out there, and those other Johnny Foreigner types are trying to stop him."


Are you supposed to stop at a red light?

Yes or no, don't mind all the safety car shite, are you supposed to stop at a red light and wait for it to go green?

Yes or no.


Lewis Hamilton drives like he is still only 12:

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/i/bcst/yeurope/yahooukie/bbc/2864/63228693.jpg

both were lack of concentration....... ..

[Roman Abramovich]

have they fixed your fence yet?;)

went to my first gp weekend here at albert park,literally two minute walk from where im staying,loved it.

will definitely do a european gp next season,thinking monza just for the craic with the tifosi.

dont go to the barca gp. didnt think much of it.
some day might head to the belgium one with ATS. just to see him in his kimi shorts.

[Actin The Sham]

dont go to the barca gp. didnt think much of it.
some day might head to the belgium one with ATS. just to see him in his kimi shorts.

You should come with me, I plan on driving over. I'll even let you look at my Helmet.

Maybe we'll arrange it for next year.

[Papa Smurf]

Its a fantastic race, will probably go next year as well with the wife...hope that they have left a bit of the muck around the place like old times. Would hate for it to have cleaned up its act to much. Stayed in Brussels before, its a long drive to the circuit so toying with the idea of roughing it and camping near Francorchamps. has anybody tried that?

[Roman Abramovich]

You should come with me, I plan on driving over. I'll even let you look at my Helmet.

Maybe we'll arrange it for next year.

maybe.........
trying to get a lewis hamilton helmet at the moment for my wall of fudgies.

we could take my car, twould get us there faster. heh heh heh

[Actin The Sham]

Its a fantastic race, will probably go next year as well with the wife...hope that they have left a bit of the muck around the place like old times. Would hate for it to have cleaned up its act to much. Stayed in Brussels before, its a long drive to the circuit so toying with the idea of roughing it and camping near Francorchamps. has anybody tried that?

I stayed in a hostel in Liege, it was the job. Another time I stayed in a B&B in the middle of nowhere near the circuit, which did food as well.

In the middle of the Ardennes, beautiful scenery, great circuit.

[Actin The Sham]

Kimi is wiping the floor with them again in friday practice in Italy. Massa is sixth quickest and hamilton is fourth quickest.

Hopefully Hamilton has gone for some driving lessons since last Sunday and someone has given him a copy of the F1 rulebook, as we don't want a repeat performance of last week's "driving" from him.

He was like some young fella on the bumpers down in Perks for the first time.

[Johnny Logan]

Kimi is wiping the floor with them again in friday practice in Italy. Massa is sixth quickest and hamilton is fourth quickest.

Hopefully Hamilton has gone for some driving lessons since last Sunday and someone has given him a copy of the F1 rulebook, as we don't want a repeat performance of last week's "driving" from him.

He was like some young fella on the bumpers down in Perks for the first time.

fuck off wrummmmm

[Corcaigh08]

Vettel on pole, Hamilton 15th!!!!!

[kevinbitzz]

Vettel on pole, Hamilton 15th!!!!!

He won, fair play to him,

[scottyspud1]

always had a soft spot for montoya,raced the right way,will never forget when i think in his debut season in the williams threw all reputations out the window and overtook schumacher at the first corner at interlagos i think it was,fantastic stuff,never had a quick/reliable enough car under him to consistantly perform,grew frustrated and lost interest and ultimately his drive.


ya started watching nascar over him being in it

He won, fair play to him,


yep,having a clear track at the start really helped him settle in.
nice and tight at the top now,just one point in it

[Papa Smurf]

Great win by Vettel. Very solid performance, He was lucky it didnt rain again and Hamilton could have stayed out on his full wets, he surely would have been caught. 2 goods races in a row now, though the rain probably helped make it more interesting.
The Moto GP from Indy was entertaining stuff as well until the Hurricane forced a red flag.

[scottyspud1]

Great win by Vettel. Very solid performance, He was lucky it didnt rain again and Hamilton could have stayed out on his full wets, he surely would have been caught. 2 goods races in a row now, though the rain probably helped make it more interesting.
The Moto GP from Indy was entertaining stuff as well until the Hurricane forced a red flag.

yep but i think saying he got lucky is wrong cause it takes from his preformance,i'd say he didn't get unlucky but sure it's 6 of one ....

[Actin The Sham]

Hamilton should be banned before he kills somebody. Did ye see what he did to Mark Webber? The guy is a homicidal lunatic and will cause a big accident between now and the end of the season unless something is done.

He's a menace, a clown, and a bluffer.

[Loftydog]

Hamilton should be banned before he kills somebody. Did ye see what he did to Mark Webber? The guy is a homicidal lunatic and will cause a big accident between now and the end of the season unless something is done.

He's a menace, a clown, and a bluffer.

Okey dokey

[scottyspud1]

Hamilton should be banned before he kills somebody. Did ye see what he did to Mark Webber? The guy is a homicidal lunatic and will cause a big accident between now and the end of the season unless something is done.

He's a menace, a clown, and a bluffer.

i didn't think to much of that tbh,looked like good old racing to me but i only seen the highlights,did i miss something?

[Actin The Sham]

i didn't think to much of that tbh,looked like good old racing to me but i only seen the highlights,did i miss something?


You're allowed to defend your position, but he was barging his way past slower cars and bumped wheels with Mark Webber.

He's like a boyracer out in Douglas on a saturday night.

[scottyspud1]

7 points in it with 1 to go.ferrari are normaly a little better in Brazil and with home support for Massa,it could be a good race.maybe Kimi will do a Shoey and run LH off the road for Massa

[Johnny Logan]

7 points in it with 1 to go.ferrari are normaly a little better in Brazil and with home support for Massa,it could be a good race.maybe Kimi will do a Shoey and run LH off the road for Massa

wouldnt surprise me if any other driver done it.
the only way hamilton can be safe in brazil is to put it on pole and try and lead from the front.


whoooooped the ferraris again.

[Tube a Pringles]

He's a great test driver alright (eh, ATS?).

[Johnny Logan]

He's a great test driver alright (eh, ATS?).

he didnt just beat the ferraris friday, saturday and sunday. he whooped them.
and seeing that mclaren still have an interest in the constructers you wont find them giving up like they did last year.


lewis
lewis
lewis.


ill dance a jig in my hamilton helmet when he wins. ill then send it on to ats.

[Actin The Sham]

He's a great test driver alright (eh, ATS?).

That is about the size of it alright. Him Coultahrd, and Button are good British test drivers. The drivers with flair in F1 at the moment are Massa, Vettel, Alonso, Raikkonen, and Kubica. Massa is a good racing driver, but look back over the season, his engine blew up on the last lap, his pit crew held him up twice, and he is still in contention. Hopefully Hamilton will plough into the wall in Interlagos and Massa will win the race and the World Championship.


Ron Dennis is a cheat, Ferrari have got soul. McLaren is like the Borg: robotic, collectivised, methodical, and utterly boring.

I can't wait for VW-Porsche-Audi-Lamborghini to enter F1, they've been discussing it for years, to put manners on Mercedes and their cheats. And notice the way the Mercedes safety cars always hold up the Ferraris and let the Mercedes through?

[Actin The Sham]

lewis
lewis
lewis.


ill dance a jig in my hamilton helmet when he wins. ill then send it on to ats.

http://dynimg.rte.ie/00007cce10dr.jpg


Here is another luas that can only drive in a straight line, has to have a special track laid for it, routinely barges cars out of the way, and is a vastly overrated white elephant.

And I don't want to see your helmet, ya fucking nobber.

[Johnny Logan]

That is about the size of it alright. Him Coultahrd, and Button are good British test drivers. The drivers with flair in F1 at the moment are Massa, Vettel, Alonso, Raikkonen, and Kubica. Massa is a good racing driver, but look back over the season, his engine blew up on the last lap, his pit crew held him up twice, and he is still in contention. Hopefully Hamilton will plough into the wall in Interlagos and Massa will win the race and the World Championship.


Ron Dennis is a cheat, Ferrari have got soul. McLaren is like the Borg: robotic, collectivised, methodical, and utterly boring.

I can't wait for VW-Porsche-Audi-Lamborghini to enter F1, they've been discussing it for years, to put manners on Mercedes and their cheats. And notice the way the Mercedes safety cars always hold up the Ferraris and let the Mercedes through?


heh heh heh.
theres only one bluffer in f1 and thats you when you go to it.
your favourite track for attending even sums ya up


"SPA"

[Actin The Sham]

heh heh heh.
theres only one bluffer in f1 and thats you when you go to it.
your favourite track for attending even sums ya up


"SPA"





Here, I got this by email from an F1 site I subscribe to:

to:http://www.ingf1racingmagaz inefansurvey.com/default.aspx

Take the fans survey.

[Johnny Logan]

Here, I got this by email from an F1 site I subscribe to:

to:http://www.ingf1racingmagaz inefansurvey.com/default.aspx

Take the fans survey.

done it. filled it in by hand when they posted it to me.
doh!!

[dotty]

lads,

totally unrelated from the thread discussion but just wondering could ye shed some light on the following.


sister wants to get the boyfriend something along the lines of this:
http://www.ferraridriving.c om


know anywhere in ireland that offers a similiar service/setup?



thanks.

[Johnny Logan]

lads,

totally unrelated from the thread discussion but just wondering could ye shed some light on the following.


sister wants to get the boyfriend something along the lines of this:
http://www.ferraridriving.c om


know anywhere in ireland that offers a similiar service/setup?



thanks.

id recommend this
http://www.topgifts.ie/mall/productpage.cfm/NewTopGifts/_dtank/%2D/Tank%20Driving%20%26 amp%3B%20Car%20Crush


http://www.topgifts.ie/mall/departmentpage.cfm/NewTopGifts/_195237/1/Off%2520Road%2520and %2520Rally%2520Drivi ng

most of these are in ireland, south & north. Mainly north.
Mondello is a good day out.


but supercars are all england.

[dotty]

id recommend this
http://www.topgifts.ie/mall/productpage.cfm/NewTopGifts/_dtank/%2D/Tank%20Driving%20%26 amp%3B%20Car%20Crush


http://www.topgifts.ie/mall/departmentpage.cfm/NewTopGifts/_195237/1/Off%2520Road%2520and %2520Rally%2520Drivi ng

most of these are in ireland, south & north. Mainly north.
Mondello is a good day out.


but supercars are all england.

yeah that appears to be the case,cant find anywhere in the north,already put forward mondello as an alternative and will pass on those links too.

cheers naff.

[Johnny Logan]

yeah that appears to be the case,cant find anywhere in the north,already put forward mondello as an alternative and will pass on those links too.

cheers naff.

the tank one is mental.
the hovercraft one is only good if theres a few going up.

[storysham]

Ferrari are to consider withdrawing from Formula One if the FIA pursue their aim of a standardised engine.

Motorsport’s world governing body dropped a bombshell 10 days ago when they opened a tender process to standardise both engines and transmissions from 2010 through to 2013.

It is part of FIA president Max Mosley’s cost-cutting drive in F1, however, the ramifications of such a decision were always going to be far reaching.

Following a meeting of Ferrari’s board of directors in Maranello today, the sport’s most famous brand could walk away if Mosley and the FIA do not alter their plans.

A Ferrari statement read: “The board of directors examined the proposed changes to the Formula One regulations in light of the current global economic crisis.

“Whilst reiterating its wholehearted commitment to a substantial and needed reduction in costs in Formula One, starting with propulsion, the board expressed strong concerns regarding plans to standardise engines.

“It felt such a move would detract from the entire raison d’etre of a sport with which Ferrari has been involved continuously since 1950, a raison d’etre based principally on competition and technological development.

“The board expressed the opinion that should these key elements be diminished, it would have to re-evaluate, with its partners, the viability of continuing its presence in the sport.”

Toyota Motorsport president John Howett has today echoed Ferrari’s sentiments.

“I don’t think any of the manufacturers want a homogenised engine,” said Howett.

“The outcome depends partially on the FIA and the World Motor Sport Council, and whether they have a mind to press through with the idea.

“If it is forced through, then it (quitting) is not a decision we will take here (Toyota F1’s base in Cologne).

“It will be taken by the board in Japan, but they want a degree of differentiation between teams.”

Mercedes, Honda, Renault and BMW are the other four manufacturers currently involved in F1, and it is understood they are of the same mind.

The FIA appear intent on pushing through with their plans as they confirmed today the tender process ends on November 7 with regard to bids for engines and transmissions in combination, and bids for the supply of engines alone.

A minimum of three further weeks is to be given to those companies considering transmission-only bids.

It is understood none of the 10 teams involved in the Formula One Teams’ Association (FOTA) have made a bid, or are likely to bid.

FOTA are to hold a further meeting in relation to implementing cost-cutting measures during the course of this weekend’s season-ending Brazilian Grand Prix in Sao Paulo.

[Tube a Pringles]

There is no way the Manufacturers are going to agree to that. Max should fuck off and get a job with the A1 guys.

[Johnny Logan]

There is no way the Manufacturers are going to agree to that. Max should fuck off and get a job with the A1 guys.

unless ferrari get the contract,
then theyll all end up agreeying except for mclaren wholl get a fine, hamilton have the trophy taken back off him and they banned from f1.

[Actin The Sham]

unless ferrari get the contract,
then theyll all end up agreeying except for mclaren wholl get a fine, hamilton have the trophy taken back off him and they banned from f1.

You're an awful langer.

[Johnny Logan]

You're an awful langer.

and not to mind the fact that hes black......

but then what do i expect from an organisation thats leader does this
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s190/gabbybabble/2008-03/31/max-mosley-orgy.jpg

[Actin The Sham]

and not to mind the fact that hes black......

but then what do i expect from an organisation thats leader does this




You know nothing about F1.

Of course it's all about RACE. That's what everybody says: "did you see the race?"


If they make it a standard engine and transmission, then all you will have will be a load of Japanese pieces of shit with a few American buckets of bolts thrown in for good luck.

Meanwhile, BMW, Ferrari, Mercedes, Renault, and all the other top European teams will most likely move to a new formula, or maybe they will join Audi, and Porsche, for the LeMans series.

I wonder how many people will watch Toyota and Honda racing each other round and round and round and round and round in non-places like Dubai, Istanbul, Singapore and Bahrain.

Yawn.....

[Johnny Logan]

You know nothing about F1.

Of course it's all about RACE. That's what everybody says: "did you see the race?"


If they make it a standard engine and transmission, then all you will have will be a load of Japanese pieces of shit with a few American buckets of bolts thrown in for good luck.

Meanwhile, BMW, Ferrari, Mercedes, Renault, and all the other top European teams will most likely move to a new formula, or maybe they will join Audi, and Porsche, for the LeMans series.

I wonder how many people will watch Toyota and Honda racing each other round and round and round and round and round in non-places like Dubai, Istanbul, Singapore and Bahrain.

Yawn.....


i follow drivers more than teams since jordan when tits up.

[dotty]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7698254.stm

Kimi Raikkonen has vowed to do all he can to help Ferrari team-mate Felipe Massa succeed him as world champion.
Massa is seven points behind British leader Lewis Hamilton in the title race, which will be decided in Sunday's Brazilian Grand Prix at Interlagos.
"I'll be glad if I can do something for Felipe so he can win the title," said Raikkonen.
Massa added: "It's a team sport and both me and Kimi know we have to do what is best for the team."
Last season, Massa surrendered the lead at Interlagos to hand Raikkonen victory and the title, by a single point from Hamilton.
Raikkonen returned the favour at this season's Chinese Grand Prix, boosting Massa's title chances by allowing the Brazilian to easily pass him for second place.
On home soil in Brazil, Massa needs to finish first or second to have a chance of denying Hamilton, and is relying on the full support of his team.
"I know there have been comments about me overtaking Kimi in the final stages of that race [China], but they have come from people who don't really understand how the sport works," remarked Massa.
"Psychologically, a racing driver always wants to finish in front, but all drivers have a contract with their team, so you are not racing as an individual.
"When you are fighting for the championship, with only one driver in with a mathematical chance of winning, then all the teams in the pit lane would do the same.
"That is, to put that one driver in a position where he has the best chance of winning. That is part of this sport."
Raikkonen added: "Once you don't fight for the title any more, then for me, it does not make a difference if I finish second or third, as long as the points for Ferrari remain the same.
"I couldn't win the drivers' title this year, but I assure you that I'll try again next year."
In the McLaren camp, Hamilton is maintaining a level-headed approach to the season showdown in Brazil.
Last year the Englishman had taken a seven-point lead to Brazil only to see his title chances evaporate on race day.
After starting second on the grid, he ran wide on the first lap and then suffered a gearbox problem; though he recovered to finish seventh it was not enough to prevent Raikkonen taking the title.
"Last year, without the experience, I was a bit lost," said Hamilton, who is aiming to succeed 1996 winner Damon Hill as Britain's latest world champion.
"This year we go in with a much better approach but, despite that, I don't believe it gives us any reason to get ahead of ourselves.
"We need to keep our feet on the ground and head into the race with the approach we had in China.
"If we are able to do that, then we will be in a great position.
"We know we don't have to win. We just have to do a solid job, and that has to be our target."

1st corner collision anyone?;)

looking forward to this weekend i must say.

[Rebelred]

qualifying results:

1 Felipe Massa (Brazil) Ferrari 1min 12.368secs
2 Jarno Trulli (Italy) Toyota 1:12.737
3 Kimi Raikkonen (Finland) Ferrari 1:12.825
4 Lewis Hamilton (Britain) McLaren 1:12.830
5 Heikki Kovalainen (Finland) McLaren 1:12.917
6 Fernando Alonso (Spain) Renault 1:12.967

[scottyspud1]

looking forward to this.there's a 40% change of a thunder storm,i hope it pisses down

[scottyspud1]

all were sitting on the start line with their slicks and a massive downpour hit,start delayed and all changed to wets,should make for a great 1st corner

[wayne gayle]

Hamilton is world champ. Twas fair funny to see the Ferrari guys celebrating and then realising they'd actually lost.
First ever black F1 champion, hopefully a good omen for Tuesday.

[redrebel]

was that an unbelieveable last lap................. was dead funny alright those ferrari muppets...LMAO

[redrebel]

the last time I saw something that spectacular on the last lap, was Nigel Mansell with a tyre blow out final straight of last lap... Unreal. fair play to Lewis...

[Brad]

Disgusted with result-he certainly didn't drive like a World Champion today. I thought he drove like an ol lady.

Massa would have won c'ship only for unreliability. He also won more times this year.

Can't say Hamilton has convinced me.

[Sound]

Disgusted with result-he certainly didn't drive like a World Champion today. I thought he drove like an ol lady.

Massa would have won c'ship only for unreliability. He also won more times this year.

Can't say Hamilton has convinced me.

Good thing he just has to win the most points then.

[liam2me]

Disgusted with result-he certainly didn't drive like a World Champion today. I thought he drove like an ol lady.

Massa would have won c'ship only for unreliability. He also won more times this year.

Can't say Hamilton has convinced me.
the man has the championship, don't think he gives a fuck about convincing anyone.

personally i'm delighted for him, not up his own arse like most english sports people.

[Rebelred]

interesting viewing all through, from the start in the wet to that incredible last 2 laps. Feel for Massa, drove like a champion today, Hamilton nearly blew it again

[Johnny Logan]

Disgusted with result-he certainly didn't drive like a World Champion today. I thought he drove like an ol lady.

Massa would have won c'ship only for unreliability. He also won more times this year.

Can't say Hamilton has convinced me.

getting paid 15m a year from mclaren.
getting 25m a year in sponsorship deals.
just won the formula one world championship.
youngest ever F1 winner, even younger than schum.
Just got a present of the most exclusive mclaren f1 on the planet (at wokin)
fuckin the hottest one in the pussycat dolls.
and hes only 23.




















































im sure your comments cause him much distress, concern and sleepless nights. Hes such a professional hes probably back in training right now. Well said brad.

[Johnny Logan]

what a race. had to watch it delayed due to working in milstreet at an expo all weekend. Cant believe i agreed to it but such are the times.
i promised actin the sham a video clip of me in my hamilton helmet dancing a jig but after seeing that race i just couldnt do that to anyone. let alone him.


as for the cunts who are taking great joy in massa's family going nuts only to realise lewis pipped it at the end. Ye disgust me. Massa is a gentleman. Just so happens i dont like ferrari on a whole and 95% of the time their drivers but this guy is a class act in victory and defeat and didnt deserve to have that happen to him.






but then again neither did lewis. Im still waiting for a breaking news to pop up in sky sports to say hamilton has been stripped of the title due to him farting on the weigh scales and hence somehow being underweight.


I cant believe it. Lewis is a gentleman. Glad i got to see him race in the flesh this year. The first year he won the championship before he went on to dominate it. because hes gona.

[Johnny Logan]

Hamilton nearly blew it again

not really. had he stayed on the dry tyres hed have possibly blown it even further. everyone came in so he had to. the risky manovure would be to stay out. he had to match what the all done and to be fair glock was losing just enough to be in with a chance. the spin just saved it.

i feel for massa tonight. especially in the circumstances of the way it ended. I personally dont think f1 has been this good since the jordan days, but then again i had an emotional attachment with the jordans being irish an all.

F1 next year for the neutral could be fuckin fantastic. Anyone could pull a rabbit outta a hat. sure the big teams will be there again but you could see a few surprises. Especially honda who have been just trying to see this season out.

Roll on 09.

[dotty]

not really. had he stayed on the dry tyres hed have possibly blown it even further. everyone came in so he had to. the risky manovure would be to stay out. he had to match what the all done and to be fair glock was losing just enough to be in with a chance. the spin just saved it.

i feel for massa tonight. especially in the circumstances of the way it ended. I personally dont think f1 has been this good since the jordan days, but then again i had an emotional attachment with the jordans being irish an all.

F1 next year for the neutral could be fuckin fantastic. Anyone could pull a rabbit outta a hat. sure the big teams will be there again but you could see a few surprises. Especially honda who have been just trying to see this season out.

Roll on 09.

fair play naff,would agree with most of that.

great race and a super finish.

gutted in the end for massa,have been a fan of his for the past two seasons in which he has matured as a racer beyond belief imo.

his bahaviour yesterday from start to finish was fantastic,controlled the race throughout and was incredibly gracious in defeat at the end.

cant imagine the emotions he must have gone through in the final minutes - the final 20 seconds of the race.

the glock situation is an interesting one,one that will be debated in the next few days but hopefully not beyond that.

it shouldnt take away from the fact that lewis is the new world champion.

as for next year i cant wait already.

kimis days in F1 could be numbered,has seemed somewhat disinterested in the sport to me at various times this season,might have problems motivating himself following last years win - i dunno.

not sure about lewis dominating the sport though,think the field is as evenly matched as i can remember,of course you will see the ferraris and mclarens towards the front but the bmws made good progress,renault and alonso was excellent in the final third,vettel has massive potential,kubica despite a disappointing finish to the year will be competitive again next season,toyotas were another team who seemed to get better as the season went on and finally honda - ceased all development on the 08 car in preference to working on next years and with ross brawn calling the shots who knows.

one thing for sure - roll on 09 indeed!

[Tube a Pringles]

A great season, won by a worthy champion. Some great talent on show, best in a long time. If Renault and Honda (under Brawn) can hook a couple of cars up for next year it would be fantastic.

[Professor Piehead]

http://www.football-wallpapers.com/emoticons/england/003.gif



YaY.

[The Black Knight]

It was the best finish to a season I have ever seen. I do feel sorry for Massa losing the title like that, because as mentioned above, he is an absolute gent, but I don't feel like he has the outright pace that a World Champion should have. Saying that, he's a hell of a lot quicker than Damon Hill ever was, and if he won a title then I guess Massa deserves to win a title too. Massa improved and drove so much better this year compared to previous years. Maybe next year he will be quicker again, but it's going to be hard to stop the raw speed of Lewis.

[Papa Smurf]

Fair play to Hamilton, he got what he deserved. The look on the Massa family's faces was fecking priceless when the engineer told them he hadn't actually won.!
Massa will have won himself millions of admirers yesterday, he spoke very well of Ferarri, his supporters and Hamilton, he was very gracious in defeat. Fair play to the kid because you dont see this in sport anymore these days. Im sure his day will come.
Some finish to the race though, Timo's bank balance just got a handy deposit!

[Tube a Pringles]

2009 configurations are testing. Great to see slicks back.......aero configurations look shit.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45214000/jpg/_45214443_-9.jpg

[Johnny Logan]

2009 configurations are testing. Great to see slicks back.......aero configurations look shit.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45214000/jpg/_45214443_-9.jpg

the biggest amount of changes in recent history in one go.
cant wait to see the boost buttons and the adjustable aeros during the race