Zlatan Ibrahimović: As good as it gets?

[POL]

Apparently not

[Lamps]

Himself and Totti would make a great partnership

:lol!:

[TrickyBrick]

Himself and Totti would make a great partnership

:lol!:

People always say he's unreal because they watch highlights of him scoring unreal goals and doing nice flicks, whenever you watch him live he turns out to be a dud, to me that means he's aloada shite!!!

[rockyoc]

Very overrated player.

Capable of some brilliant things at times but for most of the time he's missing.

[Rebelred]

Himself and Totti would make a great partnership

:lol!:

Totti is a player I never really rated but to give him his dues, he's been excellent this season and last.

[Roman Abramovich]

Very overrated player.

Capable of some brilliant things at times but for most of the time he's missing.

same could be said of ronaldinho in his prime.

zlatan is a very good player. i wouldnt have issue with him coming to arsenal.

[Forsberg]

Yup... Give me Kevin Doyle or Robbie Keane any day. :rolleyes:

[EL TORO]

same could be said of ronaldinho in his prime.

zlatan is a very good player. i wouldnt have issue with him coming to arsenal.

Hardly a fair comparison given Ronaldinho's achievements so far. Ronnie can only be compared to the upper echelon of football greatness now.

[AmadeusDC]

Very overrated player.

Capable of some brilliant things at times but for most of the time he's missing.

The Italian leagues Matt Le Tissier????

-AmadeusDC-

[POL]

a slightly better version of Peter Crouch

[Mr Jefferson]

Apparently not

Not according to Dunphy anyway, who laid into him during Inters loss at Anfield.

[afeencalleddan]

I find it hard to blame him too heavily for Inter's poor showings against Liverpool. Inter's midfield in those two games were far too lethargic and lacking any real creativity. That coupled with having Cruz alongside him means there is far too much burden on his shoulders at CL standard anyway. I'd like to see him playing in a team with more pace and creativity around him. Then I think it would be fairer to judge him.

[mightyquark]

He was awful last night ,,which thankfully means I dont have to read 15 pages on him in the Swedish papers....

[Rebelred]

Also Maicon and Rivas were woeful for Inter aswell.

[Mr Jefferson]

/\ /\ /\
He loves his little backheels alright.

[RonnyB]

I'm a bit like Gilsey in that I havent seen much of him but from what I have I think he's been mostly brutal. If he's one of the top strikers in Serie A then Eric Djemba-Djemba was a world class midfielder for United. To think they used to have Weah, Ronaldo, Baggio, Batistuta to name just a few all playing in their league at once. Italian football is in a poor state & maybe Trap might even get our lot to shock them in the WC group.

[gregson1]

He was awful last night ,,which thankfully means I dont have to read 15 pages on him in the Swedish papers....

hehehehe.. good old GT and Aftonbladet.... thank fuck also that man city have gone off the ball...

[Up For The Ba]

Apparently not

Were you not giving him praise in comparison with Tevez a few weeks ago? I`d have Tevez ahead of him any day. Zlatans attitude is up his whole. Not a consitent player and never will be. Twice last night he could have squared to Cruz in an open goal position but he went for glory himself from a tight angle, sums him up really.

[Up For The Ba]

same could be said of ronaldinho in his prime.

zlatan is a very good player. i wouldnt have issue with him coming to arsenal.

Ridiculous comparison.

[ho chi feen]

People always say he's unreal because they watch highlights of him scoring unreal goals and doing nice flicks, whenever you watch him live he turns out to be a dud, to me that means he's aloada shite!!!

People who say he's shit generally haven't watched him play too often.

[STEVIEG]

People who say he's shit generally haven't watched him play too often.

Amen

Embarrassing to hear Ray Houghton trying to say that an turn and excellent flick last night was hit and hope and not meant when it cleary was

Prick of a commentator in fairness!

[Up For The Ba]

People who say he's shit generally haven't watched him play too often.

I dont think anybody is saying he`s shit but he`s not the kinda guy who`s gonna do it for you week in week out, and when the going goes against him the head goes down. Hugely talented player but thats not enough really, his attitude is his biggest downfall IMO.

[Eoin]

I dont think anybody is saying he`s shit but he`s not the kinda guy who`s gonna do it for you week in week out, and when the going goes against him the head goes down. Hugely talented player but thats not enough really, his attitude is his biggest downfall IMO.

I've never been impressed to be honest, either for Sweden or Juve before Inter, but I never watch Serie A and can only go on what I saw in the CL and internationals.

[ho chi feen]

I dont think anybody is saying he`s shit but he`s not the kinda guy who`s gonna do it for you week in week out, and when the going goes against him the head goes down. Hugely talented player but thats not enough really, his attitude is his biggest downfall IMO.

You're not wrong about his attitude (although I think that's in the past now), but the simple fact is that he has been doing it week-in, week-out for the two years he's been with Inter. He's been off form since the turn of the year, but that's because he's been playing with an injury, one which has gotten worse since the first leg. I was very surprised Mancini picked him last night, maybe it was out of desparation. But before that, he was putting in stunningly good performances, week after week. He's far and away the best player in Italy these days, streets ahead of Kaka- the man who generally only bothers turning up for Champions League games these days, and this season didn't even do that.

Ask anyone who follows Serie A, and they'll tell you the same.

[ho chi feen]

I've never been impressed to be honest, either for Sweden or Juve before Inter, but I never watch Serie A and can only go on what I saw in the CL and internationals.

To be fair, he didn't exactly set the world alight in Serie A with Juve either, but maybe that's got something to do with Capello using his physical rather than technical abilities.

Amen

Embarrassing to hear Ray Houghton trying to say that an turn and excellent flick last night was hit and hope and not meant when it cleary was

Prick of a commentator in fairness!

Didn't see the full game last night, but that's his trademark move.

[Forsberg]

Amen

Embarrassing to hear Ray Houghton trying to say that an turn and excellent flick last night was hit and hope and not meant when it cleary was

Prick of a commentator in fairness!

Ya that was embarrassing alright... A prick of a human being

and agreed about Ibrahimovic... It's the same with Totti ... Lads who see these guys 3 times a year and every fourth summer shouldn't even have an opinion on them

[Roman Abramovich]

I dont think anybody is saying he`s shit but he`s not the kinda guy who`s gonna do it for you week in week out, and when the going goes against him the head goes down. Hugely talented player but thats not enough really, his attitude is his biggest downfall IMO.

not been doing it week in week out?
cop on man. the guy has been almost the complete opposite of that.

the guy has 30 goals in around 50 appearances for inter.

just googled....30 goals in 48 appearances. my bad.

this season hes started 18 seria a games and scored 15 goals.
hes played 7 champions league games and scored 5.

hes got 10 odd assists.

and hes been "doing" it for inter for 2 years.


very very very harsh assesment.

[Roman Abramovich]

You're not wrong about his attitude (although I think that's in the past now), but the simple fact is that he has been doing it week-in, week-out for the two years he's been with Inter. He's been off form since the turn of the year, but that's because he's been playing with an injury, one which has gotten worse since the first leg. I was very surprised Mancini picked him last night, maybe it was out of desparation. But before that, he was putting in stunningly good performances, week after week. He's far and away the best player in Italy these days, streets ahead of Kaka- the man who generally only bothers turning up for Champions League games these days, and this season didn't even do that.

Ask anyone who follows Serie A, and they'll tell you the same.

thank fuck theirs someone else out there of the same opinion.
and its not just this season either. last year in his first year at inter he played very well too.

[Roman Abramovich]

Ya that was embarrassing alright... A prick of a human being

and agreed about Ibrahimovic... It's the same with Totti ... Lads who see these guys 3 times a year and every fourth summer shouldn't even have an opinion on them

flawed genius the two are.
they have their problems but in a whole are top top class players.

its like cassano......people on here probably think hes shit too.

[MonTheHoops]

thank fuck theirs someone else out there of the same opinion.
and its not just this season either. last year in his first year at inter he played very well too.

Likewise. The guy is pure class, one of the best strikers in the world. Was watching the game last night thinking it would be great to see himself & Torres in the same side.

[Roman Abramovich]

Likewise. The guy is pure class, one of the best strikers in the world. Was watching the game last night thinking it would be great to see himself & Torres in the same side.

yip.....what i like about him is that theirs very few players who can be a "bergkamp" and be a "van nistleroy"

very few players will gladly do either too depending on how his manager wants him.

hes got a bit a of a bad attitude...if he didnt then maybe hed be in an arsenal shirt. who knows hes still young enough to. i know wenger rates him massively as does brady and arsenals chief scout.

shame wenger did ask him to have a trail rather than just snap him up. wenger dont normally get it wrong so maybe it was his attitude he wanted to suss out.

[ho chi feen]

Looks like the forum (along with RTE) has been exposed, and badly exposed at that.

[Roman Abramovich]

Looks like the forum (along with RTE) has been exposed, and badly exposed at that.

i think theirs alot a fuckin hell of a lot of bluffers on here.
i mean the wanking thats going on with torres at the moment is unreal. yet he was a poor mans andy cole/dalian atkinson a year or so ago.

i think guys here names being flashed around, googles um, forms an opinion and then runs with it.

not everyone can be judged by youtube or a few games on the box.

i dont even know why i still tune into seria a, maybe its the love of roma.

[Lamps]

Looks like the forum (along with RTE) has been exposed, and badly exposed at that.

It was that waster Ibrahimovich that was exposed, Houghton was right about the flick to, he wasn't even looking where the man was, pure hit and hope stuff. A lazy option by a lazy player, reminds me a lot of Cantona.

[Lamps]

i think theirs alot a fuckin hell of a lot of bluffers on here.
i mean the wanking thats going on with torres at the moment is unreal. yet he was a poor mans andy cole/dalian atkinson a year or so ago.

i think guys here names being flashed around, googles um, forms an opinion and then runs with it.

not everyone can be judged by youtube or a few games on the box.

i dont even know why i still tune into seria a, maybe its the love of roma.

I've forgotten more about soccer than you probably know and well you know it, and everyone else knows it too.

[ebenezer]

Ibrahimovic will never be a great striker due to the FACT he is not clinical enough in front of goal.

He was clean through last night and he shanked it.

[Lamps]

Ibrahimovic will never be a great striker due to the FACT he is not clinical enough in front of goal.

He was clean through last night and he shanked it.

What good were his flicks to him then. He shits the course, he was clean through twice. Not good enough for me

[Roman Abramovich]

Ibrahimovic will never be a great striker due to the FACT he is not clinical enough in front of goal.

He was clean through last night and he shanked it.

20 goals in 25 starts is better than nearly anyone this season

[Roman Abramovich]

I've forgotten more about soccer than you probably know and well you know it, and everyone else knows it too.

heh heh heh.....

your a poor mans gary linekar

[ebenezer]

20 goals in 25 starts is better than nearly anyone this season

Where are you getting these stats from :?: Link me up.

He didn't score against Liverpool WHEN IT REALLY MATTERED and he had chances.

[Roman Abramovich]

Where are you getting these stats from :?: Link me up.
.

are ya saying he doesnt have 20 goals in 25 starts?

[ebenezer]

are ya saying he doesnt have 20 goals in 25 starts?

No, but I'd like to see a link.

I am saying he didn't score on the night when it mattered most.

He can't finish, he'd want to watch a few videos of Pippo Inzaghi.

[MonTheHoops]

No, but I'd like to see a link.

I am saying he didn't score on the night when it mattered most.

He can't finish, he'd want to watch a view videos of Pippo Inzaghi.

There's a lot of things Inzaghi can't do either. He's a poacher. Scores goals and very little else. Would you consider him a superior player to Bergkamp?

[ebenezer]

There's a lot of things Inzaghi can't do either. He's a poacher. Scores goals and very little else. Would you consider him a superior player to Bergkamp?

A striker's job is to score goals.

Bergkamp was an attacking-midfielder. Not a striker.

[MonTheHoops]

A striker's job is to score goals.

Bergkamp is an attacking-midfielder.

Simple as that? Score goals?

Ibrahimovic is a mixture of everything. Just because he didn't do it on the one or two nights you sat down and watched doesn't mean he can't.

What's Rooney? What was Zola? Cantona? Maradona? Attacking midfielders one and all?

[xvis]

A very fine player. ..I'd have loved to see United pick him up off Juve after calciopoli.

Not the very highest bracket of player, ..but there you go.

..with the likes of Toni, Grosso, Zambrotta and Cannavaro all playing abroad and fewer players going to Italy anymore, the title of best player in Italy has been diluted somewhat. ..and Zlatan was not at his best, but still missed a few shockers.


..still, Inter are a shit team, how does Viera still get a game? Is there any chance the Italien FA can strip Inter of a few of those titles? ..at least suspend the last two.

[Roman Abramovich]

No, but I'd like to see a link.

I am saying he didn't score on the night when it mattered most.
.

zidane headbopped a guy and got sent off and into retirement on a night it mattered most......

im not going to think less of him...

maybe you should watch a bit or seria a and not judge a guy on the odd game youve seen him.

20 goals in 25 starts....whos got a better record than that this season......
5 champions league goals, 15 seria a games.

i cant think of a better strike rate at the moment.

[Roman Abramovich]

A striker's job is to score goals.

Bergkamp was an attacking-midfielder. Not a striker.

attacking midfielder?
thats news to me....

[MonTheHoops]

i cant think of a better strike rate at the moment.

Scott McDonald:|

[ebenezer]

Simple as that? Score goals?

Ibrahimovic is a mixture of everything. Just because he didn't do it on the one or two nights you sat down and watched doesn't mean he can't.

What's Rooney? What was Zola? Cantona? Maradona? Attacking midfielders one and all?

YES.

None of those are out and out strikers.

[Roman Abramovich]

Simple as that? Score goals?

Ibrahimovic is a mixture of everything. Just because he didn't do it on the one or two nights you sat down and watched doesn't mean he can't.

What's Rooney? What was Zola? Cantona? Maradona? Attacking midfielders one and all?

berkamp an attacking midfielder.......ibr a a striker.
jesus what next? henry the keeper.

[Roman Abramovich]

Scott McDonald:|

seeing that i dont watch scottish football...gwan what is it?
theirs a little difference between seria a and scotland but still whats his rate?

[ebenezer]

attacking midfielder?
thats news to me....

Ok so, a forward. Not a striker.

There is a difference, although you probably wouldn't know.

[Roman Abramovich]

Ok so, a forward. Not a striker.

There is a difference, although you probably wouldn't know.

a guy calling bergkamp an attacking midfielder and then questioning other peoples knowledge is laughable

i think the term your looking for is support striker maybe and even at that i dont think id brand him that.

your having a bad night. just leave

[MonTheHoops]

Ok so, a forward. Not a striker.

There is a difference, although you probably wouldn't know.

Well seeing as we're changing the bar so, Ibrahimovic is one of the best forwards in the world at present.

[ebenezer]

a guy calling bergkamp an attacking midfielder and then questioning other peoples knowledge is laughable

i think the term your looking for is support striker maybe and even at that i dont think id brand him that.

your having a bad night. just leave

:lol!:

Nice try. I have destroyed you.

You haven't a clue about football. You know nothing about your own club except recent Premier League stuff.

[ho chi feen]

Ibrahimovic will never be a great striker due to the FACT he is not clinical enough in front of goal.

That's not his game though- I was really surprised to see the amount of goals he's gotten, because his job is to drop deep and create. The goals are a bonus.

It was that waster Ibrahimovich that was exposed, Houghton was right about the flick to, he wasn't even looking where the man was, pure hit and hope stuff. A lazy option by a lazy player, reminds me a lot of Cantona.

I didn't watch the game last night, as I said, only in bits- after the sending off. I wouldn't be too harsh on a man who's injured though.

[MonTheHoops]

That's not his game though- I was really surprised to see the amount of goals he's gotten, because his job is to drop deep and create. The goals are a bonus.




Ahhh ok. Not a striker, not an attacking midfielder. I have it, a defensive forward?????

[ebenezer]

a guy calling bergkamp an attacking midfielder and then questioning other peoples knowledge is laughable

i think the term your looking for is support striker maybe and even at that i dont think id brand him that.

your having a bad night. just leave

:lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

More Wikipedia stuff.

I haven't said this before, but you have been EXPOSED.

You'll be appearing on Lorraine Keane's show soon.

[Roman Abramovich]

That's not his game though- I was really surprised to see the amount of goals he's gotten, because his job is to drop deep and create. The goals are a bonus.



I didn't watch the game last night, as I said, only in bits- after the sending off. I wouldn't be too harsh on a man who's injured though.

technically isnt he on the verge of winning 5 titles in a row.
1 ajax, 2 juve and now 2 inter.

not bad for a bluffer.

this season hes getting the goals because personally i think in cruz hes found the perfect partner. both take turns at dropping deep, both take turns at tap ins. kinda like rooney and tevez except both are actually great strikers too.

[Roman Abramovich]

Ahhh ok. Not a striker, not an attacking midfielder. I have it, a defensive forward?????

i like that.........a defensive forward.
or how about a play maker striker? or a deep lying foward....

ffs......ive been exposed lads. and badly at it.

[ho chi feen]

Ahhh ok. Not a striker, not an attacking midfielder. I have it, a defensive forward?????

Heh heh heh. He's your classic trequartista, really. Or, in common man's parlance, a second striker.

[ho chi feen]

technically isnt he on the verge of winning 5 titles in a row.
1 ajax, 2 juve and now 2 inter.

not bad for a bluffer.

this season hes getting the goals because personally i think in cruz hes found the perfect partner. both take turns at dropping deep, both take turns at tap ins. kinda like rooney and tevez except both are actually great strikers too.

Still surprised me though... I know he had a great scoring run earlier in the season, but still.

So that's 10 goals last season (more than I thought, but sounds about what you'd expect), 20 already this season. Not bad for a guy where the first thing that would come into your head when you think of him is that he has everything in his repertoire, except the goal-scoring.

I'd love to have him at United.

[Roman Abramovich]

Still surprised me though... I know he had a great scoring run earlier in the season, but still.

So that's 10 goals last season (more than I thought, but sounds about what you'd expect), 20 already this season. Not bad for a guy where the first thing that would come into your head when you think of him is that he has everything in his repertoire, except the goal-scoring.

he had 15 goals last season no?

[ho chi feen]

he had 15 goals last season no?

Maybe, dunno... I'm getting confused. You said he has 20 this season, and 30 overall for Inter.

[Roman Abramovich]

Maybe, dunno... I'm getting confused. You said he has 20 this season, and 30 overall for Inter.

he has around 30 league goals. but thats around 15 and 15.
i orginally said 30 goals referring to week in week out i.e. league games....
my bad on the confusion.

im almost in the mood to check now.

[ebenezer]

he has around 30 league goals. but thats around 15 and 15.
i orginally said 30 goals referring to week in week out.

Still waiting for this link.

About 3 hours now.

[Roman Abramovich]

Still waiting for this link.

About 3 hours now.

all in my head baby. all in my head.

[ebenezer]

all in my head baby. all in my head.

Still waiting.

[TrickyBrick]

People who say he's shit generally haven't watched him play too often.

iv seen him play alot. to be honest i mostly only get to see him in big games i.e world cups,euro championships,champi ons league and he has never performed in any of those,sign of a good player 'one who performs on the big occassions', he never does in fairness. watched a good bit of him in the serie A, looks decent in that but ffs its these youtube clips that make people think he's unreal when hes not!

dont get me wrong though, i like watching him play because hes technically very gifted and talented but he strikes me as one of those players who wont grab the game by the scruff of the kneck when you need him

[Roman Abramovich]

iv seen him play alot. to be honest i mostly only get to see him in big games i.e world cups,euro championships,champi ons league and he has never performed in any of those,sign of a good player 'one who performs on the big occassions', he never does in fairness. watched a good bit of him in the serie A, looks decent in that but ffs its these youtube clips that make people think he's unreal when hes not!

dont get me wrong though, i like watching him play because hes technically very gifted and talented but he strikes me as one of those players who wont grab the game by the scruff of the kneck when you need him

neither will berbatav yet the same people who moan about zlatan wank all over the moody bulgarian.

[Up For The Ba]

neither will berbatav yet the same people who moan about zlatan wank all over the moody bulgarian.

Thats a fair enough comparison actually. Berbatov is more of a team player though, Zlatan is far too greedy at times.

[Roman Abramovich]

Thats a fair enough comparison actually. Berbatov is more of a team player though, Zlatan is far too greedy at times.

are you sure youve seen him play more than 5 games?

[ho chi feen]

neither will berbatav yet the same people who moan about zlatan wank all over the moody bulgarian.
I was going to make the comparison to Berbatov the other day actually. Similar players, but Zlatan is far superior.