View Full Version : ROG gets the captaincy...
Rebel Yell
11-03-2008, 02:09 PM
Ronan will lead Ireland against England at Twickenham on saturday...deserves it...
Rebelred
11-03-2008, 02:15 PM
the final nail in Eddies coffin
Tube a Pringles
11-03-2008, 02:18 PM
This is excellent news for property speculators in the Mount Oval area.....
HappyMonday83
11-03-2008, 02:25 PM
Ronan will lead Ireland against England at Twickenham on saturday...deserves it...
Can anyone else smell exposure in the air.
http://images.jupiterimages .com/common/detail/66/58/23045866.jpg
ROG, Saturday.
PatMan
11-03-2008, 02:34 PM
And here's Jonny.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/7287287.stm
Jonny Wilkinson has been dropped from the England team to face Ireland on Saturday and replaced at fly-half by rising star Danny Cipriani.
Lamps
11-03-2008, 02:37 PM
seriously now, i was listening to Cooper championing his cause last night, saying that ROG has been delivering while BOD, struggling with injuries and so forth hasn't. He said he was a man to handle pressue as witnessed by his Munster displays.
hello?
rogby world cup?
anybody home?
The pressure came on and he visibly wilted before our eyes, he had a breakdown. On the plus side for ROG this is a nothing game and no better man to kick for the corners in that situation.
Lamps
11-03-2008, 02:38 PM
And here's Jonny.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/7287287.stm
Jonny Wilkinson has been dropped from the England team to face Ireland on Saturday and replaced at fly-half by rising star Danny Cipriani.
A travesty.
People have very short memories. Ashton out
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 02:45 PM
ROG deserves the Captaincy for this game albeit a nothing game really.
Pity to see Wilkinson's form dip but he'll be back I am sure.Brave call by Ashton.
Lamps
11-03-2008, 02:47 PM
Sir Jonny saved Ashtons job not 5 months ago and then he treats him like this!
Ashton must go.
Come on Arland
RonnyB
11-03-2008, 02:55 PM
Ireland may be worth a punt now. I'd be much more fearful of a team with Wilko than that of one wit Cipriani.
On the ROG captain thing, he cant be worse than O'Connell.
Lamps
11-03-2008, 02:57 PM
Cooper actually said POC was a "Leader of men" last night. FFS :lol!:
Leo Cullen would eat "fear of gawd" for breakfast
lackie
11-03-2008, 03:05 PM
Sir Jonny saved Ashtons job not 5 months ago and then he treats him like this!
Ashton must go.
Come on Arland
That was irelands problem with the last six months or so, O'Sullivan had too much loyalty to some players, fair play to ashton leaving out a player who is playing badly and bringing in some new blood.
Cypriani could bottle but at least he's getting a chance without having to spend years on the bench or in the A-team.
Lamps
11-03-2008, 03:11 PM
That was irelands problem with the last six months or so, O'Sullivan had too much loyalty to some players, fair play to ashton leaving out a player who is playing badly and bringing in some new blood.
Cypriani could bottle but at least he's getting a chance without having to spend years on the bench or in the A-team.
Eddie should have culled half of the Arish team as they let him down.
Jonny never let anyone down. Its like dropping BOD, its unacceptable
lackie
11-03-2008, 03:28 PM
dropping BOD would be a similar call, but the difference is that England have what looks like a capable replacment ireland haven't got those well especially in the pivitol positions. (possibly because they haven't been given the chance).
Like in the World Cup against the Argies ROG was having a complete nightmare and eddie wouldn't even give Paddy Wallace (what ever your thoughts may be on him) a chance at a time when there was nothing to play for
Maw Maw
11-03-2008, 03:29 PM
Hi i'm Ronan O'Gara, i was a share boy too
dropping BOD would be a similar call, but the difference is that England have what looks like a capable replacment ireland haven't got those well especially in the pivitol positions. (possibly because they haven't been given the chance).
Like in the World Cup against the Argies ROG was having a complete nightmare and eddie wouldn't even give Paddy Wallace (what ever your thoughts may be on him) a chance at a time when there was nothing to play for
The one good thing about his injury is that we'll finally get a chance to see Andrew Trimble play in his best position. It's a bit of a pity that EOS has gone for the safe option of moving Shane Horgan to Inside Centre. It would have been good to see Paddy Wallace get a run out there. But safety has always been Eddie's way.
Wallace may still get a go at inside centre depending on whether Geordan Murphy gets back to full fitness. He'd then have a choice between Horgan out to the wing with Kearney to full back and Wallace at centre or Fitzgerald onto the wing with Kearney at full back.
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 04:05 PM
Eddie should have culled half of the Arish team as they let him down.
Jonny never let anyone down. Its like dropping BOD, its unacceptable
Just his team colleagues,managemen t & supporters for too long given the benefit of the doubt,poor running game,as bad as ROG at tackling - past his best by a mile.Great player and sad to see him playing so poorly.
Liathroidi Mor
11-03-2008, 04:09 PM
Hi i'm Ronan O'Gara, i was a share boy too
Sharing is caring!!;)
O'Gara was fucking world class last saturday alright, the most famous world cup choker in the modern game, come back to us when ROG has singlehandidly won a world cup for arland :lol!:
Lamps
11-03-2008, 04:22 PM
as bad as ROG at tackling
:lol!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDq2OPXtZso&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOysmte-o4&feature=related
please open and apologise
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 04:24 PM
:lol!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDq2OPXtZso&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOysmte-o4&feature=related
please open and apologise
Not a chance - stand by my point 100%
Lamps
11-03-2008, 04:30 PM
Not a chance - stand by my point 100%
You think ROG could pulverise like that?
BOD would struggle to pull sme of them off.
Disappointing. You've been badly exposed
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 04:34 PM
You think ROG could pulverise like that?
BOD would struggle to pull sme of them off.
Disappointing. You've been badly exposed
Now stop being a silly wum Lamps and think for a change.
EOS is lucky BOD is injured as he would not have the balls to drop him.
Listen your fair headed boy is out - deal with it.:lol!:
Now mature and get over it and try to understand the reason for the decision rather than a hysterical regurgitation of his past performances :crazyeye: - remember you are only as good as your last game.
Lamps
11-03-2008, 04:39 PM
Do you maintain that ROG and Sir Jonny can make a hit to the same level?
Answer the question eddie?
someone is being badly exposed here again
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 04:45 PM
Do you maintain that ROG and Sir Jonny can make a hit to the same level?
Answer the question eddie?
Yes 100%
But as usual you set up a false opposition.
We will see on Saturday as ROG Captains his team on the pitch and Jonnie looks on from the stands.
Try to keep things in perspective rather than scramble for pointless pointscoring opinions.
Your hero is out and you need to deal with that - its over.
Lamps
11-03-2008, 04:46 PM
someone is being badly exposed here again
Jonny is a beast of a tackler.
This is as bad if not worse than the Davey Tweed debacle.
RonnyB
11-03-2008, 04:46 PM
Fucking hell I'm no rugby expert Eddie but why would EOS want to drop BOD if he's fit? He's still one of the most feared players in the game even today & Ireland are better off with him than without. Still think the fucker should have gone to France 3 years ago.
On the Jonny thing I doubt it that he's weak in the tackle. Read somewhere that he's had to change his technique due to his injuries. Wouldnt think he'd be targeted the way ROG is as a poor tackler.
Lamps
11-03-2008, 04:47 PM
Yes 100%
Nurse!
RonnyB
11-03-2008, 04:47 PM
Jonny is a beast of a tackler.
This is as bad if not worse than the Davey Tweed debacle.
Whose Davey Tweed??
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 04:50 PM
Whose Davey Tweed??
Lamps ALWAYS throws in red herrings when he is exposed as a poor wum.
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 04:53 PM
Fucking hell I'm no rugby expert Eddie but why would EOS want to drop BOD if he's fit? He's still one of the most feared players in the game even today & Ireland are better off with him than without. Still think the fucker should have gone to France 3 years ago.
On the Jonny thing I doubt it that he's weak in the tackle. Read somewhere that he's had to change his technique due to his injuries. Wouldnt think he'd be targeted the way ROG is as a poor tackler.
My point is that EOS would not have the balls to drop his best player.
Not actually do it like Ashton after a Wilkinson horror show last Sat.
Forgot about France and maybe he should have gone there.
Lamps
11-03-2008, 04:57 PM
Lamps ALWAYS throws in red herrings when he is exposed as a poor wum.
Do you or do you not think ROG is as good a tackler as Sir JOnny.
Answer the question Eddie?
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 05:02 PM
Do you or do you not think ROG is as good a tackler as Sir JOnny.
Answer the question Eddie?
See earlier post................
Yes.......ROG will be tackling on the pitch on Saturday and
Jonnie will be tackling a hot-dog in the stands :lol!:
Is this what you are reduced to ?
Clutching at straws ?
Jeez you must be hurting real bad.
HappyMonday83
11-03-2008, 05:04 PM
Eddie has blotted his copybook again. Wilko is the hardest tackling out-half in world rugby, while on the other hand rog has always been targeted by the opposition. Next he'll try and claim that wilko is a poor kicker.
#11sully
11-03-2008, 05:05 PM
Lamps. Wake up man will ya. Eddie already answered the question for ya a plain and simple "yes".
If jonnie is the be all and the end all of english rugby then why would Ashton drop him from a game that they have something to prove after last years hammering?
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 05:09 PM
Eddie has blotted his copybook again. Wilko is the hardest tackling out-half in world rugby, while on the other hand rog has always been targeted by the opposition. Next he'll try and claim that wilko is a poor kicker.
Yes England have just dropped the hardest out-half in rugby for no apparent reason..........
Back to sleep HM83......
Lamps
11-03-2008, 05:10 PM
This is deserving of a poll.
If Eddie is claiming straw man, I'll give him a separate topic.
Who does he think he is dealing with?
alive_and_sleeping
11-03-2008, 05:10 PM
Ronan definitely deserves a chance at captain of a team that he has contributed more than any other player in its history. He has scored 822points for Ireland in his time on the team, ok, some claim he isn't the best tackler (which is a very arguable point) but you can't fault the contribution he has made to Irish rugby.
In comparison to the above lets see BOD's total points - 167, hmmm...
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 05:16 PM
This is deserving of a poll.
If Eddie is claiming straw man, I'll give him a separate topic.
Who does he think he is dealing with?
A clueless Wum ?
Lamps
11-03-2008, 05:20 PM
Ronan definitely deserves a chance at captain of a team that he has contributed more than any other player in its history. He has scored 822points for Ireland in his time on the team, ok, some claim he isn't the best tackler (which is a very arguable point) but you can't fault the contribution he has made to Irish rugby.
In comparison to the above lets see BOD's total points - 167, hmmm...
NURSE
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 05:20 PM
This is deserving of a poll.
If Eddie is claiming straw man, I'll give him a separate topic.
Who does he think he is dealing with?
BTW I never claimed that Sir Jonnie is a straw man just thet ROG & Himself would not be recognised for their tackling - place kicking,tactical kicking kings the 2 of them with a World Cup Medal in Jonnies sideboard drawer whislt ROG has lots of photos of himself with pointless triple crowns and a HEC medal in his locker.
Now calm down your boy has been dropped that is all.
raZor
11-03-2008, 05:21 PM
Wilko's tackling nowadays is nowhere near as strong as it was back in the pre world cup 2003 days, but you can hardly blame him for that. Since then whenever he's tried big hits its gotten him in trouble, like against Carter for the Lions in 05. As well as that Dempsey walked through him in Croke Park last year a few times.
If you're judging from a few years ago there wouldnt be any outhalf in the world capable of making a hit like him.
O'Gara didnt do too bad against Chabal though in fairness ;)
PG9jtYK4Sew
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 05:23 PM
Wilko's tackling nowadays is nowhere near as strong as it was back in the pre world cup 2003 days, but you can hardly blame him for that. Since then whenever he's tried big hits its gotten him in trouble, like against Carter for the Lions in 05. As well as that Dempsey walked through him in Croke Park last year a few times.
If you're judging from a few years ago there wouldnt be any outhalf in the world capable of making a hit like him.
O'Gara didnt do too bad against Chabal though in fairness ;)
PG9jtYK4Sew
How dare you enter here with considered opinions and facts.
Quality post BTW.
RonnyB
11-03-2008, 05:34 PM
Ronan definitely deserves a chance at captain of a team that he has contributed more than any other player in its history. He has scored 822points for Ireland in his time on the team, ok, some claim he isn't the best tackler (which is a very arguable point) but you can't fault the contribution he has made to Irish rugby.
In comparison to the above lets see BOD's total points - 167, hmmm...
Jebus.
With BOD though you'd noticed his figure doesnt end in 5 or 0 so he can also drop goals. All round genius when fully fit & at his peak.
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 05:37 PM
Jebus.
With BOD though you'd noticed his figure doesnt end in 5 or 0 so he can also drop goals. All round genius when fully fit & at his peak.
He needs a break until the autumn IMO to get him back fully fit etc.Same for D'Arcy and time to give Fitzgerald a run also as we need to re-build.
HappyMonday83
11-03-2008, 05:40 PM
Yes England have just dropped the hardest out-half in rugby for no apparent reason..........
Back to sleep HM83......
You nothing about rugby outside of what you read in the papers.
Seriously like, all wumming aside, my mother has a better knowledge of the game than what you have shown here. Maybe you just disagree with whatever the SFI say just for the sake of it. I'm prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not that blinkered.
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 05:44 PM
You nothing about rugby outside of what you read in the papers.
Seriously like, all wumming aside, my mother has a better knowledge of the game than what you have shown here. Maybe you just disagree with whatever the SFI say just for the sake of it. I'm prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not that blinkered.
Listen,the apple does'nt fall far from the tree and you have shown your "knowledge" on many occasions even today mystified why Wilkinson was dropped for example.
I offer only my opinion (right or wrong)not absolutist false opposition schoolyard nonsense and wind-ups that you profer and prefer.
Come back to me when you start to think for yourself for a change not some lap-dog nonsense wannabee dribble.
We will all be better off for it.
HappyMonday83
11-03-2008, 05:48 PM
Listen,the apple does'nt fall far from the tree and you have shown your "knowledge" on many occasions even today mystified why Wilkinson was dropped for example.
I offer only my opinion (right or wrong)not absolutist false opposition schoolyard nonsense and wind-ups that you profer and prefer.
Come back to me when you start to think for yourself for a change not some lap-dog nonsense wannabee dribble.
We will all be better off for it.
Any man is entitled to an opinion, but when that opinion is so far off the mark as to be laughable it's only right to try and set him straight. ROG is a weak tackler, always has been as are most out-halfs to be fair. Wilko is recognized the world over as a hard hitter. Outside of yourself i've never heard anyone say the same about rog.
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 05:51 PM
Any man is entitled to an opinion, but when that opinion is so far off the mark as to be laughable it's only right to try and set him straight. ROG is a weak tackler, always has been as are most out-halfs to be fair. Wilko is recognized the world over as a hard hitter. Outside of yourself i've never heard anyone say the same about rog.
Jeebus have stated countless times what a poor tackelr ROG is.
Who the hell rates him or both of them for their great tackling game ?
who ? 2 fantastic kickers of the ball.
nobody ?
Now lets stop being silly here.
EDDIEB
11-03-2008, 05:54 PM
Wilko has been dropped because his form is gone to pot and it will also happen top ROG soon as soon as there is someone to replace him and his form collapses like in the World cup farce.
remember the fantastic Jonnie of old circa World Cup etc. Great career and will be missed.
HappyMonday83
11-03-2008, 05:56 PM
Jeebus have stated countless times what a poor tackelr ROG is.
Who the hell rates him or both of them for their great tackling game ?
who ? 2 fantastic kickers of the ball.
nobody ?
Now lets stop being silly here.
Are you saying wilko is a poor tackler?
Tube a Pringles
11-03-2008, 06:17 PM
Are you saying wilko is a poor tackler?
Wilko can't tackle anymore.
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