Whats the Deal City Limits.

[Jack the Lad]

Can any body tell what the story is with the "Friends of Fr Ted" comedian competition that was in City Limits last week. Entry in to the competition was by invitation only,"invitation" only,what is the guy playing at. I chance to speak to some local comedians over the last few days and correctly they were pissed off because they were not told about the competition and one was refused entry. From what I was informed one comedian had only ever done one stand up gig, one !!, as for the rest there was no balance one guy is doing local comedy just over a year, one has done no comedy for nearly a year and one guy has been doing comedy on a national basis over three years and he was the winner, (what a surprise) .The question is was City Limits trying to "fix" the competition, why were the entries by way of private invitation only, why were some comedians excluded and why was one refused. I would call on City Limits to explain itself, more importantly I would call on Friends of Ted to investigate the matter and publish the answers. Comedy here is already in a bad state with out the likes of City Limits "fixing competitions", let's see if they answer this, if they refuse then I for one will boycott the venue.

[afeencalleddan]

Set up a tribunal straight away. That is such a farce.

[pat o shea]

Jack, City Limits only staged the show as far as I know. As for open invitation it would take weeks to go through all the comedians, I don't agree with the invitation part, but I can understand the reason behind it. I haven't heard about any comedians refused entry, mainly because they didn't know about it, but if one of the local lads were refused I would have heard something so can I assume it was a comedian from out side the Cork catchment area. Can I also assume that due to your beef with C.L. you are a comedian and you were refused entry, if I'm wrong then I will be more than happy to buy you a pint next time your in the Craichouse, that fair ?

[Cathal]

Hey there Jack the Lad

I gotta say I'm getting a pain in my balls from listening to you knock city limts. As for the Friends of Ted comp. It was invitation only last year also. The festival organisers charged a promoter with the task of picking ten comedians to compete. He picked people he knew from the comedy scene in and around Galway. Where does it say in the comedy competition rule book that all competitions should be open to anybody who wants to enter? As for your endless moaning about ticket prices in City Limits I have a suggestion for you. Don't go. Your mere presence will probably suck all the fun out of the place anyway. And the man needs to make a profit. One week PJ Gallagher will stuff the place...the next week, a world class comedian who wasn't on naked camera might attract 80 people. The comedian and staff and bills still need to be paid. You seem to think that comedians and promoters should suffer for their art so you can stroke your chin and say yes it is mildly amusing. Please please please stop taking yourself and comedy so seriously.

[pat o shea]

Well put Cathal, I certainly don't agree with Jack, and I am waiting for him to start on the Craichouse, but there is one thing that I would question and that is the selection process for comedians. If the promoter has a gripe against a comedian, then that comedian wont get the chance of entering the competition, and this is something every comedian who would like to enter these competitions find unfair. While I can't fault the comedians who were chosen as one was my son, I can understand the surprise of some comedians who were unaware of the competition. if as Jack said a comedian was refused entry, and as far as I know no local comedian was refused, then I would have a problem with that. i think the organisers of Friends of Ted, should perhaps examine the selection process involved, I don't believe that Dermot Morgen would agree with the present selection process.But I do think Jack you do have a problem with City Limits, perhaps you should speak to them directly, as they say one man's meat is another man poison.

[daphne6]

let's all just have a big love in and get to know each other. obviously people are disgruntled, possibly even jealous, maybe jealous of your son Pat. It was unfair but that responsibility was on the Friends of Ted peeps. They made the decision.

Cathal, get that pain sorted out mate. It may be something worse than you think. Also, don't worry and don't take this whole set of shenanigans personally. This is a public forum and on public forums there is this little thing known as free speech. If a person has a problem then so be it. Let their morals take care of the rest. Yes it was an invitation only but of course people were pissed off because a new comedian to the scene got picked over others. Would this not piss you off. Also last eyar's competition ended up with people turning up without an invite and 1 if not more got through to the finals. Which in turn would have pissed off the other competitors.

The gripe with City Limits is of course a little bit immature and unfair to a successful business. jack, to be honest grow up. If you can't handle your beans on a matter then stick to the peas! This is over and done with and people were annoyed with the matter on the cork comedy circuit as they were on the Dublin comedy circuit.

C'est la vie.

[daphne6]

Can any body tell what the story is with the "Friends of Fr Ted" comedian competition that was in City Limits last week. Entry in to the competition was by invitation only,"invitation" only,what is the guy playing at. I chance to speak to some local comedians over the last few days and correctly they were pissed off because they were not told about the competition and one was refused entry. From what I was informed one comedian had only ever done one stand up gig, one !!, as for the rest there was no balance one guy is doing local comedy just over a year, one has done no comedy for nearly a year and one guy has been doing comedy on a national basis over three years and he was the winner, (what a surprise) .The question is was City Limits trying to "fix" the competition, why were the entries by way of private invitation only, why were some comedians excluded and why was one refused. I would call on City Limits to explain itself, more importantly I would call on Friends of Ted to investigate the matter and publish the answers. Comedy here is already in a bad state with out the likes of City Limits "fixing competitions", let's see if they answer this, if they refuse then I for one will boycott the venue.

PS: the judges were from the friends of TED group.

[Cathal]

Last year's friends of ted fest. The organisers love and know a lot about father ted. They are not experts on the stand up comedy scene which is why they passed the responsibility of selection process on to someone else. As for extra competitors turning up at last years comp, that was due to the festival organisers telling Donkay to bring two people from Cork (Tim just happened to be in town also) and then never telling anyone else about it. The MC did point out that it was unfair to the other competitors but the extras had actually been invited, so he sucked it up.
And thanks Daphne, that free speech bit...classic, I'll have to come and see you in the craichouse sometime. But how right you are. Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe...so to who ever got refused entry to the competiton I say take it on the chin and take comfort in the fact that the runner up prizes were an empty bottle of toilet duck on a little bit of marble, high in sentimental value but not a career maker. Plus surely there's the craic me up 2008 comp...is that still 50 bucks to enter? Now that's worth a public inquiry.

[pat o shea]

Cathal, you seem to know more about the Fr. Ted competition than the average person, so is one to assume you are in some way connected ?. You also have mentioned some names who have not been part of this whole process started off by Jack, is it right to use their names while you stand hidden behind yours ?. i go by my full name so anything I have to say I have to stand by. I can only assume that you have some involvement with comedy due to your knowledge of this particular matter. As for the craic me up competition, well lets look at it . The entry fee was €30 if memory serves me correct. Anyone who had to travel to this competition was basically given the money back to go towards their expences. the money taken from local contestants was put directly in to the prize fund. The competition was held in the Craichouse where the entry is €5, as we have on average a small audience this does not result in much nor did we have any sponsorship with certain betting shops. the final was held in Kilkenny at the fringe festival with accommodation made available to the finalists. Had we had the money from sponsorship, or charged a higher ticket price to the Craichouse the contestants would not have been charged. the Craichouse made no money from this competition. Now Cathal dear friend there is a lot more I know and could say but whats the point in it, where would it get any of us, each of us have our own daily shit to be getting on with. If you have a beef with Jack, then deal with it but do not start your beef with the Craichouse, that I would dislike and could not accept. Every Comedy club here has to struggle every week to get the punters in that is something both City Limits and the Craichouse have in common. If you still feel that you wish to slag the Craichouse off then lets debate it in any venue you choose, but you must be honest with your arguement, the fact that you only go by Cathal question have you something to hide. I state my name as Pat O Shea, I love good comedy, and anybody willing to get up on stage and try it out. Now Cathal who are you ? that is the 1st question.

[Cathal]

Cathal O' Loghlin. I know hiding behind plain old Cathal was a bit cryptic and cowardly. And I apologise if I touched a nerve re the craichouse, I know you work hard for the place and without it a lot of us would have found it very hard to get started in comedy, if not impossible. I will say though that it's the only competition that I have ever had to pay to enter, big sponsors or not. And like you I too could say more but I won't. But in relation to my swipe at the craichouse, I was just stirring a little...childish I know. Sorry Pat. And as for the friend's of ted comp...I was one of the guys who wasn't invited but was invited if you get me. And I know about the empty bottle of toilet duck as a runner up prize because...I was a runner up. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

[daphne6]

Well it's good to see actual comedians with actual names speaking in an actual conversation.

There is a lot of slating going on here because of one little rant of a person that probably did not get their oats (in the proverbial sense of not getting a gig). To be honest this melodrama is gettig a little bit overbearing and immature. We can obviously see that Mr. "Le Lad" has run into deep water and cannot seem to find his footing or his keyboard as he has not responded to our fantastic replies.

Should we let the sleeping dog lie and just close this thread because we seem to be rummaging in past endeavours and it's not reflecting well on the above named comedy clubs. So what if an error was made or if someone's foot was stubbbed, should we just stand there and cry for that person, no! If we did that in the comedy career then there would be no such thing as a comedy club. If you don't get a gig then poor you, but in all fairness it's not because you're a shit comedian, it's because there's a system and you(general comedian, no one in particular) were not selected for that system. Build a bridge as so many say. Just because I try for a gig in the Montreal showcase and I don't get accepted does not mean that the world of comedy is corrupt and that clubs we dislike are bastards. You learn to accept the fact that you can't get every gig that's out there. You bust your balls and you work harder to get that gig.

[craichouse]

Agreed, as the founder of the Craichouse and its competition let that be the end of it. :mad:

[Cathal]

I'd arrange meeting up for a group hug but I am in Australia. Onward Christian soldiers.

[daphne6]

Fantastic, we are all friends now.

Luckily I did not continue with this as the mods do not seem to be my friend anymore as some spilled milk came out onto their keyboards and of course this led to a post of mine being deleted.

By the way Pat, did you know that modern technology has now stated that you and I are the one person. Very strange seeing as you have a penis and I of course have a vagina.

Peace out guys, I won't be back to this forum again due to the censorship with regards to a named comedy club I cannot mention because I may spoil the customers's opinions of the place though I do not have an actual problem with this place. The moderators have now stated I do. How observant, very observant indeed. I wish I had those powers of perception, then maybe w would not be in this mess and maybe my name would be Eric and not Daphne.

Well Bye Bye adoring fans, my ship has come and I have to move to new pastures where the speech is free and the men are easy!

I love you PROC, I truly do.

Daphne to the 6.

[pat o shea]

Right let me set the record straight for all concerned, and I mean all concerned, everyone who submits a thread, replies, reads, even proc, I am not daphne6, I have no smoke with city limits nor it's promoter, who for all concerned I hold in high regard, he gave me my start up gigs and the best advise I will ever receive in this bitch biting entertainment section they call comedy. I have no beef with the staff of city limits ( to be honest I only really know 2) though I am annoyed with Cathal. Everything I have stated is based on fact and personal experience and more importantly it is stated under my name and not as an aka. If censorship is applied in any situation it must be done so in an open manner where the person being censored is giving a reason why, I do not know the full reason behind daphne6 being censored she is a nameless face to me, but so is the moderators , perhaps all may be better off if factual names were used, then said could be placed at someones foot . I hope this sorts everything out once and for, but if it doesn't well to be honest at my advanced age I couldn't give a flying f**k. If anyone takes offence to what I have to say, well say it to my face not bitch about it behind my back because chances are the person you are bitching to is the same person that will phone me 10mins later with the full story. Now if that really is an end I might be allowed to get back to trying to make arrangements for over 20 comedians in Kilkenny which is already taking up every spare minute I have. This is Pat O Shea saying it's been fun.Out.

[keegan2008]

easily the most exciting thread i've seen on this site. looks like the script writers were writing this while they were taking a break form prison break and lost. i think both the craichouse and city limits are great comedy clubs. i didn't get invited to the friends of ted fest, which is annoying, but i think its the selection process' fault, rather than anyone's in particular. that's my two cents.

peace out.
Eoin Keegan (cleverly hiding under the devious moniker of keegan2008 - fooled ye all. oh, and cathal, hiding under the false name of "cathal" - you fiendish devil you!)

[pat o shea]

With regards to the comments made by Jamie O Shea, please note that this person is not I repeat "NOT" the local comedian Jamie O Shea. On reading the above shit I contacted Jamie and he is unaware of this message, Jamie is actually "NOT" even a member of proc. At the time of this message Jamie was in the company of other people so did not put up the post. Who ever you are you have problems, and if the txt I just received is proven to be correct you will have one major problem. If you have a problem with Eoin or Jamie then why not try growing a pair of balls and put up your true name, I'm sure the children's home where you were brought up will have your birth cert or check your pass port, yes I do know you have one, now you must think where did I see you with your pass port. Eoin take my word the message was not from Jamie but from another wannabe comedian with f**k all talent, and yes moderators check this person out.


"Beware the old dog sleeping......he is not sleeping, simply waiting to strike".

[Jamie O Shea]

Only a joke. Sorry if it offended Jamie.
Dylan Holland

[daphne6]

that's fucking immature Dylan!!!! if the people involved in this thought this was funny then why didn't they use their own names rather than someone elses without asking? of course it's going to offend jamie or any other person who's name ye have probably used in the past!!!!!

[daphne6]

also, why did you log back into the same name again and not create your own account when you made an apology. there's been enough shit about dual accounts here, me getting the brunt of it as people are still confusing me for pat because of my previous opinions, which of course is not true!

if anyone has a problem or a joke to tell, then do not and I repeat use another person for your own intentions.

Will people ever grow the fuck up???

[pat o shea]

The so called three wise men behind the "Jamie O Shea" post are now known to me and I am disgusted to learn who you are. You took the name of a comedian not even a member of proc, and made statements which has lead to some irate txt messages. All this to wind me up, had you used my name you three assholes, then yes you would have wound me up, but instead you got other people involved. Your excuses are pathetic and not acceptable, not when you use the name of someone not even involved. I have lost the high level of trust and respect I held for you, that is gone, I only hope that you have not lost the friendship of the innocent comedian. I should by right name you for all to see what type of pr**ks you really are. But I wont name you, one has already held up his hand the other 2 try to distance themselves. If there is anymore fall out as a result of your shit for brain idea, then I must reconsider my association with the Comedy Club concerned or even your association. As always my name is Pat O Shea.

"Oh you foolish child, the old dog has your scent and is on the prowl."

[daphne6]

wow how, sharing the love northside stylee.

we really know how to change the topic in a thread don't we :D

[craichouse]

Come on people , lets try and play nice. :grin:

[daphne6]

yes craichouse, that's right. Let's all play nice every one of us.