New City Stadium

[Kenneth Hickey]

From Cork Independent...


CITY TO ANNOUNCE POSSIBLE SITES FOR NEW STADIUM DEVELOPMENT

An announcement regarding the possible sites under consideration for the building of Cork City FC's proposed new stadium is expected by the months end.
While Cork City General Manager Aidan Tynan refused to comment on the development a source within the club confirmed to the Cork Independent that an announcement on the club's `10 year plan' can be expected by the end of January.
It is believed the clubs new owners,venture capital firm Arkaga, have earmarked a number of sites for the development of the 20,000 stadium, with Cork Con's ground in Ballinlough and sites at Black Ash and Bishopstown being suggested as possible early favourites for the clubs relocation.
At a meeting earlier in the year, Tynan outlined the club's plans for the multipurpose stadium which will also incorporate bars,gyms and five to seven-a-side pitches. The new stadium will also being capable of staging large-scale concerts, a key factor in Arkaga's plan to significantly reduce the clubs current operating deficits.
The club are said to be looking at 15 acres close to the city centre to house the development.Accordin g to the owners, the club will need to be generating annual profits in the region of €1.5 million by five years time in order to support the investment which is expected to cost up to €40 million.
Meanwhile, speculation is mounting over former city favourite and current Reading FC striker Kevin Doyle.Reports in the UK suggest the irish International could be subject of a €12 million bid from Chelsea in the January transfer window. The move, if it goes through, will net City €1.2 million.

If they build it in partnership with munster then this could be a great success..

I think there is definitly huge potential for a decent size multi pupose stadium in the city..

the city is really lacking a decent concert and exhibtion venue, the nearest thing we have is millstreet FFS, bit of a joke for irelands second city..

something like the madjski in london would be perfect with bars, gyms, conference centres etc..

outside of soccer and rugby I really think the whole city would benefit from this, the docklands would be the perfect location but cant see it happining with the parc getting re-developed..

I think these arkaga lads definitly know what their doing, hopefully it will get the green light.

[STEVIEG]

I agree about the stadium sharing though the surface in the cross is pretty good, and i never like rugby and soccer on the same pitch

I'm suprised by this, with Turners Cross being redeveloped and turning into a potentially excellent ground

Hope it's not Bishopstown, never liked it before when City were there

I'm all for Cork getting a big venue that can hold gigs etc though

It's a joke that we are sending people down to Millstreet and Killarney for gigs

PS-I understand that this is very much long term which is good, but it's in the short term where the new owners will face more immediate tests

[Kenneth Hickey]

I agree about the stadium sharing though the surface in the cross is pretty good, and i never like rugby and soccer on the same pitch

I'm suprised by this, with Turners Cross being redeveloped and turning into a potentially excellent ground

Hope it's not Bishopstown, never liked it before when City were there

I'm all for Cork getting a big venue that can hold gigs etc though

It's a joke that we are sending people down to Millstreet and Killarney for gigs

the pitch should'nt be too much of an issue with summer soccer..

could actually work out quite well with the stadium being in use all year round..

could be very profitable espically with the rise of munstershire bandwagonery types ;)

the concert venue thing is a bit of a joke alright, can't believe someone with a bit of money has'nt spotted the potential sooner, especially recently with the success of the marquee..

traveling to country shit holes such as killarney and millstreet for concerts and events is a farce..

[STEVIEG]

Aye, forgot they don't really play rugby in summer, good point

[MonTheHoops]

From Cork Independent...



If they build it in partnership with munster then this could be a great success..




The rugby & football seasons overlap so I don't see how there's any possible benefit, outside gate receipts, for the footballers. Have you ever seen an international at Lansdowne after the rugby? Surface is normally shocking - and that's the national stadium.

EDIT: The summer football is only 3 months of the whole season remember.

[STEVIEG]

Just leave the rugby guys play for a couple of months and leave them pay for it, would be my thinking on it

[Kenneth Hickey]

The rugby & football seasons overlap so I don't see how there's any possible benefit, outside gate receipts, for the footballers. Have you ever seen an international at Lansdowne after the rugby? Surface is normally shocking - and that's the national stadium.

EDIT: The summer football is only 3 months of the whole season remember.

they'd only be overlapping for a few months a year..

october/november and march/april..

and you can more or less cancel out march and april as this would be the latter stages of the henieken cup maybe 2 home games max..

lansdowne is an old stadium, with a modern stadium and pitch it wont be an issue, lot of football clubs in england share grounds with rugby and their seasons run togther..

[Chuck Norri]

this would be great for the city alright,

seriously lacking anything a multi purpose stadium at the mo, if it was designed right it could even be used for other sports like athletics and boxing as well,

and you never know might see a return to the glory days of 26,000 sell out crowds for league games at flower lodge,

now that would be something.

[Rebelred]

To be honest this idea could well have legs.
But there are a number of potential pitfalls and that most glaring of past mistakes sitting out next to the Ballincollig bypass in Curaheen.

1. The snag I would see with the groundsharing is this, Thomond park will be freshly redeveloped with a 26,000 capacity, so Munstershire will probably be playing the majority of their matches there.

2. Arkaga may also intend to host a number of concerts and events at the stadium, but if the GAA get the go ahead to redevelop Pairc Ui Caoimh (I'd still put my house on this not being a 60,000 capacity stadium), then they also plan to put on a number of concerts every year. How many big concerts could we potentially see in Cork every year?

3. There's also a flood of astro turf 5 a side pitches around the city and county now. Making money from these will not be as easy as it was 5 years ago.

4. The cost of this is substantial. Purchasing such a large chunk of land close to the city centre will not be easy. Temple Hill is sold for development already, so that can be ruled out. Where next? Bishopstown? the only land left in Bishopstown is out by, yes you guessed it, the old Stadium, which was a spectacular failure. Granted there's a far better road network now, but the closer to the city centre the better really for the project. Douglas? Togher? Blackpool even? It's an interesting plan but just looking at it from the information in the article above, there's a long way to go before it becomes a viable reality for City, who will need to seriously increase attendances if it does happen.

[Chuck Norri]

their rumoured to be looking at sites near the black ash park and ride,

this would be an excellent location for a new stadium,

agree with ya about the potential pitfalls but i'm sure arkaga wont go ahead with it unless it will be a comerical success,

we'll just have to wait and see how things pan out,

in the meantime the cross is'nt too bad these days.


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[Roman Abramovich]

jesus thats really going to call my bluff.

[markinmanc]

If developers really wanted the best for Cork, a plot on the Ford's site would be brilliant.
I know I've said it before, but a 20,000 seater stadium like Vitesse Armhem have would cover a lot of bases - and provide a few income streams as well.

I fear the stadium won't happen - any govt funding would open the development to another Tallaght fiasco.

Like it or not, outside the hardcore, soccer fans in Cork are fickle. A stadium too far out - even Bishopstown - would give people an excuse to not go.

[Liathroidi Mor]

What about heading to east cork glanmire, glounthaune etc as the rail link will take people down there easily when its completed.

For this to work we'll need Eoin o Callaghan or one of the big devlopers behind it. Then we might get some results as the council or govt have too much red tape!!!!

[Rebelred]

What about heading to east cork glanmire, glounthaune etc as the rail link will take people down there easily when its completed.

For this to work we'll need Eoin o Callaghan or one of the big devlopers behind it. Then we might get some results as the council or govt have too much red tape!!!!

again, too far out. As Markinmanc said, cork soccer supporters are a fickle bunch. He's also right about the type of stadium required, something like Arnhem is exactly what the region as a whole needs.

[Kimeartimmyboy]

its all well and good making these plans but they cant fill the cross(bar sunderland.where are ye now,pricks) so why go bigger.it will look like a womens all ireland in croke park.and this being ireland its bound to be a delayed cluster fuck

[#11sully]

From Cork Independent...



If they build it in partnership with munster then this could be a great success..

I think there is definitly huge potential for a decent size multi pupose stadium in the city..

the city is really lacking a decent concert and exhibtion venue, the nearest thing we have is millstreet FFS, bit of a joke for irelands second city..

something like the madjski in london would be perfect with bars, gyms, conference centres etc..

outside of soccer and rugby I really think the whole city would benefit from this, the docklands would be the perfect location but cant see it happining with the parc getting re-developed..

I think these arkaga lads definitly know what their doing, hopefully it will get the green light.

Can't see munster getting involved now that thomound park is redeveloped. Why would they?

its all well and good making these plans but they cant fill the cross(bar sunderland.where are ye now,pricks) so why go bigger.it will look like a womens all ireland in croke park.and this being ireland its bound to be a delayed cluster fuck

Agree with you here boy. If there was a new stadium built it certainly wouldn't be to facilidate(sp) the huge numbers that go out the cross. :rolleyes:

[Kenneth Hickey]

Can't see munster getting involved now that thomound park is redeveloped. Why would they?

because theres more to munster than just limerick you prick..

cork being a much bigger city and having much better infrastructure than limerick is better suited to having munsters main stadium..

however the stab city elements of the munster branch think differently..

anyhow the munster branch are already planning a major re-development to musgrave park to take it from 7,500 to 15,000 so I presume a joint soccer and rugby venture would appeal to them.

[Liathroidi Mor]

because theres more to munster than just limerick you prick..

cork being a much bigger city and having much better infrastructure than limerick is better suited to having munsters main stadium..

however the stab city elements of the munster branch think differently..

anyhow the munster branch are already planning a major re-development to musgrave park to take it from 7,500 to 15,000 so I presume a joint soccer and rugby venture would appeal to them.


Surely but when you have idiots controlling them with egos things get complicated!!