The Ronaldo FK

[dotty]

its something that i often thought about posting but havent until now.

he has improved his game greatly in the last few seasons but there are times that he still pisses me off and when i see standing over a fk is one of them,especially when i see players like tevez and giggs walking away from the ball.

the frustration lays in the fact that there seems to be little technique involved,apparently he lines the ball up so the point of impact is the valve creating movement in the air.

his fk imo is reminisent to that of roberto carlos,when it comes off its looks spectacular but when it doesnt its annoying.

roberto carlos had far greater success too but i would never had him as a fk taker in the same class as a beckham,harte,solano ,mihajlovic etc.

i cant think of too many times he has scored,remember a strike last year in the match v euro XI and another one in the PL 2 seasons ago but after that...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M_tLV6bfg9U

(i now fully expect him to prove me wrong at the reebok this weekend;) )

[raZor]

Yep you've gone and done it now, but I agree, it seems to be a plan of blast it and hope for the best.

[dotty]

Yep you've gone and done it now, but I agree, it seems to be a plan of blast it and hope for the best.

most frustrating when united are a goal down or something and time is running out and he sends giggs who can take a fk away and then proceeds to smash it into the wall,waste.

[raZor]

Not for me he can do that all day for all I care!! ;)

[STEVIEG]

When it works it works well


Hargreaves shaped to take it tonight, but he missed a few against Bolton

United have a good record from Ronnie rebounds, deflections

He should take a few but they should vary it more

[KolaKubes]

Fine from that distance but can't make it dip from any closer.

Hargreaves was rather close with at least one free kick against Bolton, reckon he should take them. Been a weakness for Utd since Beckham left though.

[STEVIEG]

Tevez is dangerous close in too (as has been mentioned)

Under the circumstances that was a very big goal for United tonight

They should simply mix it up more free-kick wise

[Roman Abramovich]

tevez, giggs, hargreaves and anderson id let take kicks before him.
hes crap.

[STEVIEG]

Mostly

But he is the reason Fergie can send a scratch team to Rome for a nothing game in the run up to the Liverpool game

[dotty]

didnt see the game tonight but fair play to him,hes persistant if nothing else,important goal too,trip to rome now irrevelant and excellent opportunity for young lads like pique simpson and evans to get some valuable european experience.

when it comes off fine but think united should play the percentages a bit more,hargreaves showed enough to me v bolton that hes a threat and tevez scored a few last season.

[STEVIEG]

Yup, rocket of a goal one of his best but mix it up and vary it

[dotty]

Yup, rocket of a goal one of his best but mix it up and vary it

here la...easy!;)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=imzn-7TkGXA

[STEVIEG]

:):)

[Rebelred]

Anybody who hasn't done so already should get themselves to the Serie A thread and watch Pirlos fantastic free kick at the weekend. Ronaldos goal last night was a fluke. He'll hit the wall the next 10 times if he's lucky. Might test the goalkeeper one in 20.

[STEVIEG]

Ronaldos goal last night was a fluke. He'll hit the wall the next 10 times if he's lucky.

Maybe but he doesn't mean to hit the wall

Hitting the wall is a fluke

he meant to score

He did so it was hardly a fluke

[jimmy magee]

Hargreaves was rather close with at least one free kick against Bolton, reckon he should take them

:x-mas: happy christmas


with ROnaldo, there's no technique hence no dip. He just lashes it..--> waster

[Rebelred]

Maybe but he doesn't mean to hit the wall

Hitting the wall is a fluke

he meant to score

He did so it was hardly a fluke

he meant to score of course, but the way he goes about it means that the odds on it actually happening are far longer than they are when someone like Juninho (lyon) or Pirlo lines the ball up in a similar area of the field.

[STEVIEG]

he meant to score of course, but the way he goes about it means that the odds on it actually happening are far longer than they are when someone like Juninho (lyon) or Pirlo lines the ball up in a similar area of the field.

True enough i'd say for every 5 give him 2

[Rebelred]

True enough i'd say for every 5 give him 2

2 goals? from every 5? Ronaldo?

[HappyMonday83]

True enough i'd say for every 5 give him 2

You've had a tough day, i'll put this one down to you being tired.

[STEVIEG]

2 goals? from every 5? Ronaldo?

Leave him take 2 out of every 5 awarded

He will deliver goals and assists

[STEVIEG]

You've had a tough day, i'll put this one down to you being tired.

Do keep up

[bundyv1]

True enough i'd say for every 5 give him 2

Id say 1 in 7 and at that its a bit generous ....there is alot more of his FKs that go over rather than go in ...

[HappyMonday83]

Do keep up

Backtracking will get you nowhere.

[STEVIEG]

Who else is scoring free-kicks for United these days btw

And yes, they have taken some (hargreaves, Giggs, Rooney etc?)

Ronaldo's free kicks were an important part in United winning the league last year (Liverpool, Spurs etc)

While a blind man can see he takes too much, he should still be allowed to take a good portion

Look what he did last night

Saved the club from a tricky away game against Roma

Big game player (5 goals in 5 and a good few more this season)

Don't believe the hype

[STEVIEG]

Backtracking will get you nowhere.

Where?

This is football/soccer

Do keep up

[STEVIEG]

there is alot more of his FKs that go over rather than go in ...

Same applies to all but a few players

Of those who use power this is par for the course

Most will hit the wall or go over

[STEVIEG]

True enough i'd say for every 5 give him 2

FAO

HappyMonday

read again

[HappyMonday83]

FAO

HappyMonday

read again

2 other posters read it as you claiming ronaldo scored 2 from 5 fks.

But I suppose everyone is wrong except you. :rolleyes:

[bundyv1]

FAO

HappyMonday

read again

Stevie is in fighting form tonight ;)

[STEVIEG]

2 other posters read it as you claiming ronaldo scored 2 from 5 fks.

But I suppose everyone is wrong except you. :rolleyes:

In hindsight it was open to interpretation but that's what i clearly meant

do you want to go back and read it again maybe

If you want me to go digging i'll go and find out similar posts that i have made about his free-kicks before later when i get a chance (including a big argument i had with Edmund)

He misses most of them, but when it works it works sweet

His dribbles and tricks don't always work either but this is the price of playing him

He has unbelievable percentages of assists and goals for a player in his position, for both club and country

These are the facts

[HappyMonday83]

In hindsight it was open to interpretation but that's what i clearly meant

do you want to go back and read it again maybe

If you want me to go digging i'll go and find out similar posts that i have made about his free-kicks before later when i get a chance (including a big argument i had with Edmund)

He misses most of them, but when it works it works sweet

His dribbles and tricks don't always work either but this is the price of playing him

He has unbelievable percentages of assists and goals for a player in his position, for both club and country

These are the facts

This is true against the likes of wigan and derby. I have yet to see him perform consistently in big games. Until such time he shall remain nothing more than a show pony.

[ho chi feen]

Hargreaves has shown himself to be a pretty decent free-kick taker from his Byern days, so I reckon he should be our man taker. Tevez and Ronaldo are both very hit (occasionally) and miss (mostly).

Don't know about Anderson.

[mirps]

This is true against the likes of wigan and derby. I have yet to see him perform consistently in big games. Until such time he shall remain nothing more than a show pony.

Hi Eamonn.

[STEVIEG]

This is true against the likes of wigan and derby. I have yet to see him perform consistently in big games. Until such time he shall remain nothing more than a show pony.

Arsenal on numerous occassions
Chelsea assists, Liverpool assists, Roma, Milan, crucial league goals against Fulham and Man City and last night against Sporting Lisbon etc etc

Leaving aside a great record for Portugal

RTE is entertaining, but the guys haven't a fucking clue about Ronaldo


Can't believe they form so many peoples opinions

[jimmy magee]

Hargreaves has shown himself to be a pretty decent free-kick taker from his Byern days, so I reckon he should be our man taker. Tevez and Ronaldo are both very hit (occasionally) and miss (mostly).


:bday: happy christmas to you too.

ehhh, this entails that Hargreaves starts.......

[STEVIEG]

If you want me to go digging i'll go and find out similar posts that i have made about his free-kicks before later when i get a chance (including a big argument i had with Edmund)



Pretty consistent with what i said back in May (pardon the bumslapping-esque language but those were heady days here:))

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=15500 38&postcount=48

[HappyMonday83]

Arsenal on numerous occassions
Chelsea assists, Liverpool assists, Roma, Milan, crucial league goals against Fulham and Man City and last night against Sporting Lisbon etc etc

Leaving aside a great record for Portugal

RTE is entertaining, but the guys haven't a fucking clue about Ronaldo


Can't believe they form so many peoples opinions

I watched him go missing in far too many big games to consider him anything more than a showboat. Great for highlight reels, but give me a young giggs any day of the week. Feck it I even recall him been shown up by duff in an international a couple of years ago.

[dotty]

Hargreaves has shown himself to be a pretty decent free-kick taker from his Byern days, so I reckon he should be our man taker. Tevez and Ronaldo are both very hit (occasionally) and miss (mostly).

Don't know about Anderson.

exactly,dont necessarily have a problem with ronaldo taking free kicks,just feel united should play the percentages more,as stevie said perhaps 2/5.

[KolaKubes]

exactly,dont necessarily have a problem with ronaldo taking free kicks,just feel united should play the percentages more,as stevie said perhaps 2/5.

The last quarter of an hour of the game last night gave a great insight into why Liverpool have been quite successful over the past couple of years.

Porto played far nicer, more technical football but Liverpool were fitter and their simple brand of football played at a high tempo was too much for the Portuguese. I still don't think it will win them a league title playing like that but its direct and effective. Rafa has sold the English back their own style of play. Probably should give him the national job actually.

[lionelhutz]

The last quarter of an hour of the game last night gave a great insight into why Liverpool have been quite successful over the past couple of years.

Porto played far nicer, more technical football but Liverpool were fitter and their simple brand of football played at a high tempo was too much for the Portuguese. I still don't think it will win them a league title playing like that but its direct and effective. Rafa has sold the English back their own style of play. Probably should give him the national job actually.

did you watch the full match last night?

[RodrigoCardoso]

Liverpool were muck the other night and the reason they won was nothing to do with their simple brand of football. They were jammy
The free kick awarded against Porto which lead to the penalty being awarded was never a free kick. The player got booked for it too. Then when the free kick was taken Hyypia had a handful of the same players shirt and was pulling him all over the place which is why he handled and the penalty was awarded. The ref was kak.
Torres scored a good goal after that but was lucky that the ball rebounded off the defenders and went right into his path just a few yards from goal. The scoreline flattered Liverpool hugely.
Torres stands out like a sore thumb in that team

[Edmund Blackwater]

Liverpool were muck the other night and the reason they won was nothing to do with their simple brand of football. They were jammy
The free kick awarded against Porto which lead to the penalty being awarded was never a free kick. The player got booked for it too. Then when the free kick was taken Hyypia had a handful of the same players shirt and was pulling him all over the place which is why he handled and the penalty was awarded. The ref was kak.
Torres scored a good goal after that but was lucky that the ball rebounded off the defenders and went right into his path just a few yards from goal. The scoreline flattered Liverpool hugely.
Torres stands out like a sore thumb in that team
Torres had already scored two by the time the penalty was awarded, Liverpool were leading 2-1. Your points, as a result, are invalid.

[RodrigoCardoso]

Torres had already scored two by the time the penalty was awarded, Liverpool were leading 2-1. Your points, as a result, are invalid.

Torres got lucky when the ball rebounded to him. Then the poxy penalty.
Point remains. Just the order in which the jammy goals came are reversed :rolleyes:

[Edmund Blackwater]

Torres got lucky when the ball rebounded to him. Then the poxy penalty.
Point remains. Just the order in which the jammy goals came are reversed :rolleyes:
Yes, jammy.

[STEVIEG]

Since this thread started he has got a good few free kicks, some of his best ones in fact

He is defo improving his technique, I can't think of many players at the moment scoring as much from free's

all that practice is paying off

[roasty]

the one just there is def his best unreal altogether

[Liathroidi Mor]

Would have to agree there!! Phenonomal!!........ ...............and thats coming from a frustrated Liverpool supporter!!!

[KolaKubes]

Since this thread started he has got a good few free kicks, some of his best ones in fact

He is defo improving his technique, I can't think of many players at the moment scoring as much from free's

all that practice is paying off

You know Stevie, when he was a 19 year old and being written off as an expensive show pony, the football experts should have considered this possibility.

What an oversight like. ;)

[Roman Abramovich]

a good free kick but in my opinion thats where it stops.
i tought jamie and souness went over board with it.

but utd were very good tonight for large parts

[M&M]

a good free kick but in my opinion thats where it stops.
i tought jamie and souness went over board with it.

but utd were very good tonight for large parts

for a change...

[MonTheHoops]

Very frustrating seeing him step up for free kicks. 1 in 5 go right I reckon, with 4 out of 5 being horribly wasted. When they do come off though..........that was out of this world I thought tonight.

[nemesis]

Very frustrating seeing him step up for free kicks. 1 in 5 go right I reckon, with 4 out of 5 being horribly wasted.

Here's the thing though: can you think of any player who scores more than one in five direct frees from within twenty-five yards?

I can't.

[dotty]

but utd were very good tonight for large parts

first half thought we were excellent although pompey were poor,good movement and looked like scoring 4 or 5,at times thought we tried to walk it in,on other nights players would have taken more responsibility and had a go but tonight,rooney in particular,they were 'unselfish' and looked to tee up a teammate for a simple finish.

second half was a non event,pompey never threatened and united simply going through the motions for the most part.

i started this thread due to my frustrations with ronaldos free kicks,tonights was special no question but still maintain that the monopoly he seems to have on a deadball anywhere within 30/35 yards of the oppostion box must stop,just simply think united should vary it,hargreaves giggs and tevez are all capable of taking one if necessary.

speaking of special freekicks though anyone see del pieros from tonight for juve v inter in the second leg of their coppa italia q/f?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TUFrM_Kdoig

[ho chi feen]

Very frustrating seeing him step up for free kicks. 1 in 5 go right I reckon, with 4 out of 5 being horribly wasted. When they do come off though..........that was out of this world I thought tonight.

1 in 5 is a pretty phenomenal strike rate from free-kicks... I'd be well surprised if he was on that. But yes, as mentioned, a bit of variation would be nice sometimes- Hargreaves, in particular, is an excellent set-piece taker.

Some run Ronaldo's on... is that 30 in his last 25 matches now, or something? And he didn't even get off the mark until the end of September. Incredible return. His overall return from shots on target is just over 1 in 4... in 6 for all shots.

[nemesis]

1 in 5 is a pretty phenomenal strike rate from free-kicks... I'd be well surprised if he was on that. But yes, as mentioned, a bit of variation would be nice sometimes- Hargreaves, in particular, is an excellent set-piece taker.

Some run Ronaldo's on... is that 30 in his last 25 matches now, or something? And he didn't even get off the mark until the end of September. Incredible return. His overall return from shots on target is just over 1 in 4... in 6 for all shots.

27 goals in 28 games I think. Astonishing.

There were several surprising things about last night:


Scholes is still a fucking awesome player. He may not have long left but, on his day, he's capable of putting every other midfielder in England to shame.
Nani is a class act waiting to happen. He hasn't appeared much this year because Fergie seems desperate to get Giggs his appearance record, but when he gets a good run next season he's got an awful lot to contribute. Nearly scored a screamer last night too.
Anderson is obscenely talented. That goal he almost scored towards the end would have been a contender for goal of the season.
Evra is the best attacking full back in the country. By a mile.
United's defence are so bored at the moment that Rio spends most of his time in the opposition's box.
David James should be England's first choice keeper.
Sol Campbell now spends more time with his arm in the air claiming offsides that he does actually playing football.
Oh, and Ronaldo's rubbish. A complete show pony, no end product, and he wastes every free kick. Ahem.

[Rebelred]

27 goals in 28 games I think. Astonishing.

There were several surprising things about last night:


Scholes is still a fucking awesome player. He may not have long left but, on his day, he's capable of putting every other midfielder in England to shame.
Nani is a class act waiting to happen. He hasn't appeared much this year because Fergie seems desperate to get Giggs his appearance record, but when he gets a good run next season he's got an awful lot to contribute. Nearly scored a screamer last night too.
Anderson is obscenely talented. That goal he almost scored towards the end would have been a contender for goal of the season.
Evra is the best attacking full back in the country. By a mile.
United's defence are so bored at the moment that Rio spends most of his time in the opposition's box.
David James should be England's first choice keeper.
Sol Campbell now spends more time with his arm in the air claiming offsides that he does actually playing football.
Oh, and Ronaldo's rubbish. A complete show pony, no end product, and he wastes every free kick. Ahem.


I think we'll do well to finish top four...

[POL]

incredable, how does he do it against these top class sides?

[Rebelred]

incredable, how does he do it against these top class sides?

in fairness Pol, he did score the equaliser against Everton, a top 4 side.

[Carmona]

Here's the thing though: can you think of any player who scores more than one in five direct frees from within twenty-five yards?

I can't.

Mario Kempes. Pushing on a bit now like, but still.

[POL]

Mario Kempes. Pushing on a bit now like, but still.
he wouldn't know, football in 1993

[Rebelred]

Since this thread started he has got a good few free kicks, some of his best ones in fact

He is defo improving his technique, I can't think of many players at the moment scoring as much from free's

all that practice is paying off

looks like it is paying off alright, he's becoming more consistent in his striking of the ball. Top class free kick last night.

[POL]

looks like it is paying off alright, he's becoming more consistent in his striking of the ball. Top class free kick last night.
define "top class"

[EDDIEB]

define "top class"

Consitantly better than everyone else and top of your peer group.

Player of the season ?

[Rebelred]

define "top class"

I'll define a "top class free kick" for you.

when the ball goes into the net from 25 yards and the keeper is left rooted to the spot.

Best free kick taker around is Juninho at Lyon

[POL]

I'll define a "top class free kick" for you.

when the ball goes into the net from 25 yards and the keeper is left rooted to the spot.

Best free kick taker around is Juninho at LyonI seriously question the goalie

[EDDIEB]

I seriously question the goalie

Nutmegged by Christiano,stung by a great free kick ?

CR did his job.

[dotty]

I'll define a "top class free kick" for you.

when the ball goes into the net from 25 yards and the keeper is left rooted to the spot.

Best free kick taker around is Juninho at Lyon

the dip on the ball was amazing,james absolutely no chance.

the movement on the del piero fk last night was something else too.

[Fr. Turncoat]

Very frustrating seeing him step up for free kicks. 1 in 5 go right I reckon, with 4 out of 5 being horribly wasted. When they do come off though..........that was out of this world I thought tonight.

one of the best ratio - freekicks to goals - was pierre van hoodijonk, i think he had something like 1 in 3...
1 in 5 is a great return, beckham certainly didnt hit that, but i imagine that Ronaldo is even higher than that this season

[lionelhutz]

one of the best ratio - freekicks to goals - was pierre van hoodijonk, i think he had something like 1 in 3...
1 in 5 is a great return, beckham certainly didnt hit that, but i imagine that Ronaldo is even higher than that this season

is it a fact that roni's got 1 in 5 freekicks? id be very very surprised

[lionelhutz]

27 goals in 28 games I think. Astonishing.

There were several surprising things about last night:


Scholes is still a fucking awesome player. He may not have long left but, on his day, he's capable of putting every other midfielder in England to shame.
Nani is a class act waiting to happen. He hasn't appeared much this year because Fergie seems desperate to get Giggs his appearance record, but when he gets a good run next season he's got an awful lot to contribute. Nearly scored a screamer last night too.
Anderson is obscenely talented. That goal he almost scored towards the end would have been a contender for goal of the season.
Evra is the best attacking full back in the country. By a mile.
United's defence are so bored at the moment that Rio spends most of his time in the opposition's box.
David James should be England's first choice keeper.
Sol Campbell now spends more time with his arm in the air claiming offsides that he does actually playing football.
Oh, and Ronaldo's rubbish. A complete show pony, no end product, and he wastes every free kick. Ahem.


fuck off wum

[EL TORO]

The boy is sheer class. The most exciting player in the league since Henry's pomp.

[STEVIEG]

I doubt he has got 1 to 5 either

His ratio has massively improved in the last few months though, as Dotty implies

There are at least 4 free-kicks i can remember going directly in

as for the game itself, should have been more but the real tests lie ahead

[Actin The Sham]

Maybe he's too good.

[legend76]

I doubt he has got 1 to 5 either

His ratio has massively improved in the last few months though, as Dotty implies

There are at least 4 free-kicks i can remember going directly in

as for the game itself, should have been more but the real tests lie ahead


Yep, next Saturday for starters :)

[Roman Abramovich]

Maybe he's too good.

too be honest it was a toepuck. i dont know what all the whohah about it is.
hes been the premierships best player this season but he done shit in last nights match that if i was fergie would be fucking him out of it over.

ya see ive a theory on ronaldo. in the "small" games he plays anywhere he feels like. Total free role and pops up everywhere setting people up or scoring. But in the big games hes confined to one position because he has to and is less effective. if i was fergie i would seriously consider playing him in the fabregas role on front of hargreaves a few times. I think hes got the vision, the pace, the skill etc to pull it off.

i still reckon he doesnt play that good against the better teams because hes made play in a postion rather than last night pop up anywhere.

but by fuck did he give away the ball a few times and not bother his hole even attempting to win it back. Thats why id take rooney ahead of him

[EL TORO]

too be honest it was a toepuck. i dont know what all the whohah about it is.
hes been the premierships best player this season but he done shit in last nights match that if i was fergie would be fucking him out of it over.

ya see ive a theory on ronaldo. in the "small" games he plays anywhere he feels like. Total free role and pops up everywhere setting people up or scoring. But in the big games hes confined to one position because he has to and is less effective. if i was fergie i would seriously consider playing him in the fabregas role on front of hargreaves a few times. I think hes got the vision, the pace, the skill etc to pull it off.

i still reckon he doesnt play that good against the better teams because hes made play in a postion rather than last night pop up anywhere.

but by fuck did he give away the ball a few times and not bother his hole even attempting to win it back. Thats why id take rooney ahead of him

Madness fella. Ronaldo is the player everyone thought Rooney would become. Ronaldo will eventually become one of the all time greats, Rooney will be another 'what could have been'.

[legend76]

Madness fella. Ronaldo is the player everyone thought Rooney would become. Ronaldo will eventually become one of the all time greats, Rooney will be another 'what could have been'.

Once a blue always a blue :)

[Actin The Sham]

too be honest it was a toepuck. i dont know what all the whohah about it is.
hes been the premierships best player this season but he done shit in last nights match that if i was fergie would be fucking him out of it over.

ya see ive a theory on ronaldo. in the "small" games he plays anywhere he feels like. Total free role and pops up everywhere setting people up or scoring. But in the big games hes confined to one position because he has to and is less effective. if i was fergie i would seriously consider playing him in the fabregas role on front of hargreaves a few times. I think hes got the vision, the pace, the skill etc to pull it off.

i still reckon he doesnt play that good against the better teams because hes made play in a postion rather than last night pop up anywhere.

but by fuck did he give away the ball a few times and not bother his hole even attempting to win it back. Thats why id take rooney ahead of him


Sky have to hype these things up, but it was a very good free kick. I think that he added a couple of million euro on to his price tag last night, if Real Madrid are going to try and prise him away.

lAtxjGhns2E
Manucho is going well at the African Nations Cup too

[POL]

At his best as usual against crap opposition. Against the big teams he will always go missing. Good defenders don't fall for his tricks

[Fr. Turncoat]

At his best as usual against crap opposition. Against the big teams he will always go missing. Good defenders don't fall for his tricks

LOL got to laugh at your posts. Always brings a smile to my face.
You must spend your time shitting it. Your 'theories' are so predictably dumb.
You have been found out, always are found out, and always will be found out!
But don't let this get to you. I love hearing your - the earth is flat - rants!

[POL]

LOL got to laugh at your posts. Always brings a smile to my face.
You must spend your time shitting it. Your 'theories' are so predictably dumb.
You have been found out, always are found out, and always will be found out!
But don't let this get to you. I love hearing your - the earth is flat - rants!
aye, sure he is world class against the likes of Portsmouth :lol!: what is he when he shits the course against the big boys, middle class is it :silly:

[EDDIEB]

At his best as usual against crap opposition. Against the big teams he will always go missing. Good defenders don't fall for his tricks

You just have to laugh at these posts.

Comedy Gold.

[Fr. Turncoat]

You just have to laugh at these posts.

Comedy Gold.

they are! you can just imagine him standing on a street corner in a sandwich board heralding the end of the world.
Can't wait til May when he is proven wrong again and the good and the great Keane keeps Sunderland up.

[EDDIEB]

At his best as usual against crap opposition. Against the big teams he will always go missing. Good defenders don't fall for his tricks

You just have to laugh at these posts.

Comedy Gold.

[Up For The Ba]

too be honest it was a toepuck. i dont know what all the whohah about it is.
hes been the premierships best player this season but he done shit in last nights match that if i was fergie would be fucking him out of it over.

ya see ive a theory on ronaldo. in the "small" games he plays anywhere he feels like. Total free role and pops up everywhere setting people up or scoring. But in the big games hes confined to one position because he has to and is less effective. if i was fergie i would seriously consider playing him in the fabregas role on front of hargreaves a few times. I think hes got the vision, the pace, the skill etc to pull it off.

i still reckon he doesnt play that good against the better teams because hes made play in a postion rather than last night pop up anywhere.

but by fuck did he give away the ball a few times and not bother his hole even attempting to win it back. Thats why id take rooney ahead of him

That`s a fair point but Utd would really have to play a 4-4-1-1 type formation for that to work, with Tevez either sacrificed for Ronaldo to play behind Rooney or alternatively given a place out wide. In theory it should work but Fergie seems to have reverted to 4-4-2 over the last couple of seasons. Ironicly he has the players now to play the formation that he wanted to a few years ago.

[Lamps]

the good and the great Keane keeps Sunderland up.

What the fock are you on about slimeball, since when is survival where its at?

Keane walked out on his country for a lot less than what sunderland and the keanites now call success. You disgust me

[jimmy magee]

i
the frustration lays in the fact that there seems to be little technique involved,apparently he lines the ball up so the point of impact is the valve creating movement in the air.





I didn't see the goal last night, but ya he kind of toe bogs it. The ball doesn't rotate as much the way he kicks it.

it is a technique though, an ugly one if you ask me

[POL]

He is great lad alright doing it against a depleted Portsmouth and a defensively inept Newcastle but where was he in last year`s FA Cup Final or in Milan when Man Utd were getting knocked out of the Champions League?
He`s just like Cantona, great against mighty teams like Wigan and Middlesboro but if his team are losing in a crunch match he goes AWOL.. That is the fact of the matter

[STEVIEG]

The big teams will have two men on him, like Spurs did in the first half the other day

The difference is, Chelsea and Arsenal have better players than Spurs in those positions

Tevez and co will get more room

Is it a coincidence that Tevez scored at Anfield and against Chelsea?

I think not

Arsenal and Milan and co are big teams too btw, Everton are a top 4 side and teams like Spurs, Sporting lisbon and Man City are not gimmie games (World Cup semi's and European international semi's are big games too)

He has to up it against the big Champions League oppposition alright, but the signs are encourgaing

Give him all the attention, and leave Rooney, who generally keeps his goals for importnat games, shine

[POL]

You just have to laugh at these posts.

Comedy Gold.luckily enough I'm old enough to remember Cantona putting giants like Swindon town and oldham to the sword, exact same carry on from the bum slappers 15 years later. Fooling No one

[Demons till I die]

What the fock are you on about slimeball, since when is survival where its at?

Keane walked out on his country for a lot less than what sunderland and the keanites now call success. You disgust me



Bad case of rattlement there

[EDDIEB]

luckily enough I'm old enough to remember Cantona putting giants like Swindon town and oldham to the sword, exact same carry on from the bum slappers 15 years later. Fooling No one

You just know that Christiano Ronaldo is having a great season when this juvenile gibberish comes out :-P

[ho chi feen]

luckily enough I'm old enough to remember Cantona putting giants like Swindon town and oldham to the sword, exact same carry on from the bum slappers 15 years later. Fooling No one

Talk about revisionism, or maybe just poor wumming. :)

Seriously, I'd have lost count of the amount of big games way Cantona produced the goods. He rarely disappointed.

Now if you'd said 'failed to mark in the CL', you'd have had a point; but you didn't, and you don't.

Next?

[MonTheHoops]

Here's the thing though: can you think of any player who scores more than one in five direct frees from within twenty-five yards?

I can't.

Nakamura.

And don't say it's the SPL. He's done it twice against ye!

[ho chi feen]

Nakamura.

And don't say it's the SPL. He's done it twice against ye!

Overall though, 1 in 5? Really now?

Zola had 7/10 in 1997/98 for Chelsea, AFAIK... maybe just at a certain point in the season.

[MonTheHoops]

Here's the thing though: can you think of any player who scores more than one in five direct frees from within twenty-five yards?

I can't.

Nakamura.

And don't say it's the SPL. He's done it twice against ye!

[MonTheHoops]

Overall though, 1 in 5? Really now?

Zola had 7/10 in 1997/98 for Chelsea, AFAIK... maybe just at a certain point in the season.

Absolutely. No hassle. You don't actually get that many free kicks close to the edge of the box. Maybe 2/3 a game normally. I think 1 in 5 is a good ratio, nothing outstanding.

[Fr. Turncoat]

What the fock are you on about slimeball, since when is survival where its at?

Keane walked out on his country for a lot less than what sunderland and the keanites now call success. You disgust me

absolutely thrilled i disgust you. it shows that i am getting my message across. now back to combing pol's locks with now, little man.

[Fr. Turncoat]

Bad case of rattlement there

easy to rattle the hair combers.

[Langer Dan]

He is great lad alright doing it against a depleted Portsmouth and a defensively inept Newcastle but where was he in last year`s FA Cup Final or in Milan when Man Utd were getting knocked out of the Champions League?
He`s just like Cantona, great against mighty teams like Wigan and Middlesboro but if his team are losing in a crunch match he goes AWOL.. That is the fact of the matter

Earra ya, hes useless.
:p
ffs, hes the form player in europe at he moment.
Between this twaddle and your siding with the co. board, I dunno?:-|

youd want to take a few days out to reflect big man.

[xvis]

Mihajlovic could hit them fairly regularly...

He scored a record 27 frees in Serie A, ..including a hat-trick of frees in one game for Lazio.