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legend76
22-11-2007, 06:50 PM
Roy Keane feels there are "too many big heads" in the current England squad - and says they must "take responsibility" for the team's failure. Sunderland boss Keane has slammed England's players following their failure to qualify for Euro 2008.
Croatia secured a deserved 3-2 victory at Wembley on Wednesday evening, ensuring England miss out on next summer's finals in Austria and Switzerland.
Steve McClaren has since been sacked as England boss - but Keane feels the blame does not entirely lie with the manager.
The former Manchester United captain believes the squad is made up of too many egos, and is adamant that the players should step up and take some of the heavy criticism.
"They certainly have the heart and the passion, but that only gets you so far," he said. "Technically you have got to be able to handle the ball. These top countries who are constantly qualifying and winning tournaments have that.
"Having said that and if you look at some of the England players, they're ******* good players.
"But certainly if you look at some of the England players and the England set-up, and to be from the outside looking in - just my opinion - there are too many egos in there, too many big heads.
"If you get carried away with any little bit of success, then you're in trouble.
"I look at the England set-up and they don't look a happy bunch, and their body language sometimes isn't great. As good as they are players; good players don't make good teams.
"Steve McClaren lost his job because he did not qualify, and that is fair enough. But the players have got to take responsibility for their own actions.
"I don't think international football is that important to a lot of the players these days. Club football has taken over."
There is ongoing debate as to whether England's failings relate to the lack of talent emerging at youth level.
Keane feels the correct measures are now in place, but admits the results of the system are unlikely to surface for 'many, many years'.
"To be fair to the English FA, from the one or two courses I have been on, I think they are working hard on that," he added.
"But you might not see the results of that for many, many years to come. We always talk about patience in football, but with the English national team - people don't have that patience."

legend76
22-11-2007, 06:51 PM
wonder if he's gonna throw his hat into the ring???


now that would be funny on so many levels

DogTheLangerHunter
22-11-2007, 06:55 PM
wonder if he's gonna throw his hat into the ring???


now that would be funny on so many levels

At least 84 levels.

The SFI would have a field day

legend76
22-11-2007, 06:57 PM
At least 84 levels.

The SFI would have a field day

Keane urges "SFI" to stand up

DogTheLangerHunter
22-11-2007, 06:58 PM
Keane urges "SFI" to stand up

They've had a good year,they should be happy,but Keane as the England managers are the stuff Lamps dreams about

legend76
22-11-2007, 07:00 PM
They've had a good year,they should be happy,but Keane as the England managers are the stuff Lamps dreams about

I'd say he'd do it just to spite the FAI

xvis
22-11-2007, 07:07 PM
how many more Engerlund threads do we need?


ffs

legend76
22-11-2007, 07:31 PM
They've had a good year,they should be happy,but Keane as the England managers are the stuff Lamps dreams about

wonder if Boylesport are offering a price ????

POL
22-11-2007, 08:36 PM
if carlsberg did SFI dream topics....

POL
22-11-2007, 08:37 PM
wonder if he's gonna throw his hat into the ring???


now that would be funny on so many levelslook, get one thing straight, if the money is right, Keane is in there

RonnyB
22-11-2007, 08:40 PM
if carlsberg did SFI dream topics....

Late push for post of the year!

DogTheLangerHunter
22-11-2007, 11:00 PM
Late push for post of the year!

Ah now,hold on.If it turns out to have 30-40 pages of pure and utter SFI rattledom than yes,but now-no

legend76
23-11-2007, 10:32 AM
well if we don't have a problem with Terry Venables managing Ireland, why not Keane for England?? he clearly has a plan to manage the "egos" that have ruined the teams chances.

STEVIEG
23-11-2007, 10:33 AM
He is not qualified enough to manage them

he is right in what he says but needs to get his own house in order first

Lamps
23-11-2007, 10:35 AM
Ah now,hold on.If it turns out to have 30-40 pages of pure and utter SFI rattledom than yes,but now-no

post lad, he said post

legend76
23-11-2007, 10:40 AM
He is not qualified enough to manage them

he is right in what he says but needs to get his own house in order first

Just imagine what would happen to the Sundireland bangwagon if he left for the England Job?? Nial Quinn's press conference would be priceless

EDDIEB
23-11-2007, 10:52 AM
You would swear the Sunderland were playing like Brazil in their prime.

If I was in his precarious position I would shut up until his team were actually a threat to anyone above them in the table and at least were on the way to securing Premiership survival never mind actual success.

But for Sunderland survival will be a success.

legend76
23-11-2007, 02:51 PM
You would swear the Sunderland were playing like Brazil in their prime.
If I was in his precarious position I would shut up until his team were actually a threat to anyone above them in the table and at least were on the way to securing Premiership survival never mind actual success.

But for Sunderland survival will be a success.

ah sure you man Jairzinho had a fierce ego as well !!!

POL
23-11-2007, 05:50 PM
Roy Keane feels there are "too many big heads" in the current England squad - and says they must "take responsibility" for the team's failure. Sunderland boss Keane has slammed England's players following their failure to qualify for Euro 2008.
Croatia secured a deserved 3-2 victory at Wembley on Wednesday evening, ensuring England miss out on next summer's finals in Austria and Switzerland.
Steve McClaren has since been sacked as England boss - but Keane feels the blame does not entirely lie with the manager.
The former Manchester United captain believes the squad is made up of too many egos, and is adamant that the players should step up and take some of the heavy criticism.
"They certainly have the heart and the passion, but that only gets you so far," he said. "Technically you have got to be able to handle the ball. These top countries who are constantly qualifying and winning tournaments have that.
"Having said that and if you look at some of the England players, they're ******* good players.
"But certainly if you look at some of the England players and the England set-up, and to be from the outside looking in - just my opinion - there are too many egos in there, too many big heads.
"If you get carried away with any little bit of success, then you're in trouble.
"I look at the England set-up and they don't look a happy bunch, and their body language sometimes isn't great. As good as they are players; good players don't make good teams.
"Steve McClaren lost his job because he did not qualify, and that is fair enough. But the players have got to take responsibility for their own actions.
"I don't think international football is that important to a lot of the players these days. Club football has taken over."
There is ongoing debate as to whether England's failings relate to the lack of talent emerging at youth level.
Keane feels the correct measures are now in place, but admits the results of the system are unlikely to surface for 'many, many years'.
"To be fair to the English FA, from the one or two courses I have been on, I think they are working hard on that," he added.
"But you might not see the results of that for many, many years to come. We always talk about patience in football, but with the English national team - people don't have that patience."

some neck on the fucker, he should get his own house in order before mouthing off about things that have absolutely no relevance to the job he`s contracted to.

EL TORO
23-11-2007, 06:00 PM
some neck on the fucker, he should get his own house in order before mouthing off about things that have absolutely no relevance to the job he`s contracted to.

How exactly does he get his own house in order?? He's not exactly blessed with an amazing squad of players. If they even finish one place outside the relegation zone this season, then that has to be seen as success for them. As for his comments they are spot on and resonate with a lot of people over here. It fucks me off when people slag the fella off regardless of what he says. He holds a lot more creedence over here than he does at home, a nation of begrudging fuckers indeed.

POL
23-11-2007, 07:13 PM
How exactly does he get his own house in order?? He's not exactly blessed with an amazing squad of players. If they even finish one place outside the relegation zone this season, then that has to be seen as success for them. As for his comments they are spot on and resonate with a lot of people over here. It fucks me off when people slag the fella off regardless of what he says. He holds a lot more creedence over here than he does at home, a nation of begrudging fuckers indeed.
how surprising :rolleyes: you are one of these lads that have accorded him with the secular version of papal infallibility. He should be lambasted for the dire signings, for the best part they are dross. His inability to strengthen in the summer, despite being provided with serious funds, WILL be the clubs undoing.

legend76
26-11-2007, 11:30 AM
Rabbiting on about England losing to a Pot 1 European rated team and what he'd do.
Then his team lose 7-1 to a third rate Everton

STEVIEG
26-11-2007, 12:36 PM
Then his team lose 7-1 to a third rate Everton

I'd be very slow to call Everton third rate

They have been very unlucky in some big games this season and will be a much better side now that they have players back from injury

POL
26-11-2007, 12:39 PM
Rabbiting on about England losing to a Pot 1 European rated team and what he'd do.
Then his team lose 7-1 to a third rate Evertonheh heh heh, get his own house in order before he goes shooting his mouth off

legend76
26-11-2007, 01:25 PM
I'd be very slow to call Everton third rate

They have been very unlucky in some big games this season and will be a much better side now that they have players back from injury


maybe that's a bit harsh, they are certainly a second rate premiership outfit, (not quite breaking into the BIG 4). they finished behind Spurs the last two years, so third rate on a european level

STEVIEG
26-11-2007, 01:26 PM
maybe that's a bit harsh, they are certainly a second rate premiership outfit, (not quite breaking into the BIG 4). they finished behind Spurs the last two years, so third rate on a european level

They got to the Champions League though

legend76
26-11-2007, 01:39 PM
They got to the Champions League though

not the champions league "proper". that's on a par with Shelbourne

STEVIEG
26-11-2007, 01:41 PM
not the champions league "proper". that's on a par with Shelbourne

Everton did come 4th in the league and were robbed of a place in the comp proper, by a team who got to the semi's

Forsberg
26-11-2007, 01:53 PM
Then his team lose 7-1 to a third rate Everton

Ha

legend76
26-11-2007, 01:54 PM
Everton did come 4th in the league and were robbed of a place in the comp proper, by a team who got to the semi's

that was three season's ago, they've finished 6th in the last two campaigns.

either way, is losing 7-1 to Everton a good result ???

STEVIEG
26-11-2007, 01:55 PM
either way, is losing 7-1 to Everton a good result ???

No way, a shocking result, terrible

I was only taking issue with the dismissal of Everton as a third rate team

legend76
26-11-2007, 01:58 PM
No way, a shocking result, terrible

I was only taking issue with the dismissal of Everton as a third rate team

apologies. second rate