World Cup 2010 Qualifying Draw...

[Rebel Yell]

The provisional seedings for the Europe Draw from what I can gather...


Provisional Seeding Groups
1.

Italy
France
Germany
Spain
Netherlands
Portugal
Czech Republic
Croatia
England

2.

Romania
Scotland
Greece
Russia
Poland
Norway
Ukraine
Sweden
Serbia

3.

Turkey
Denmark
Republic of Ireland
Bulgaria
Northern Ireland
Israel
Switzerland
Finland
Hungary

4.

Bosnia-Herzegovina
Slovakia
Belgium
Cyprus
Wales
Moldova
Albania
Georgia
FYR Macedonia

5.

Slovenia
Iceland
Armenia
Latvia
Austria
Lithuania
Belarus
Azerbaijan
Liechtenstein

6.

Kazakhstan
Estonia
Malta
Luxembourg
Montenegro
Andorra
Faroe Islands
San Marino
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Who do you fancy getting ?

[ho chi feen]

We're very lucky to have made the third pot.

I'd like Croatia, Norway, Albania, Azerbaijan and the Faeroes.

[homer jay]

when is the draw?

[Rebelred]

I'd Like:

England, Norway,Slovakia,Liec htenstein and Malta

[RonnyB]

sunday

[Roman Abramovich]

not that i give a shit about ireland. all that could change if the fai appoint a good man though.

czechs (spent force), sweden (spent force), wales (less travel), belarus (good team and would provide a great challenge), kazaksthan (cause dat wood be niceeeeeee)

[RonnyB]

I'd like Czech Rep. Norway, Wales, Liechtenstein & Andorra

[Lamps]

not that i give a shit about ireland. all that could change if the fai appoint a good man though.


all aboard

[EDDIEB]

Can we be excused from 2010 World Cup ?

[Lamps]

Can we be excused from 2010 World Cup ?

Anything less than a win is failure

[EDDIEB]

Anything less than a win is failure

Its a bit like that allright.

[bumble]

England (in tormoil)
Poland (let us win or we'll deport year countrymen) keep the women
Wales (nearly as bad as us)
Liechtenstein (always make great headlines)
Andorra (could go skiing)

[Coin]

England, Scotland, Wales would be interesting if ourselves or the North ended up with them.

Other than that though I'd want the Czechs, Scotland, Cyprus, Liechtenstein, Faroe Islands. There's no one really terrifying in pot 2. I'd be hoping Scotland are one of those one-qualifier wonders who go back to finishing mid to lower table and I just want to see Ireland have another crack to destroy Cyprus.

And what the hell has happened to Austria? All the way down in pot 5.

[Rebelred]

England, Scotland, Wales would be interesting if ourselves or the North ended up with them.

Other than that though I'd want the Czechs, Scotland, Cyprus, Liechtenstein, Faroe Islands. There's no one really terrifying in pot 2. I'd be hoping Scotland are one of those one-qualifier wonders who go back to finishing mid to lower table and I just want to see Ireland have another crack to destroy Cyprus.

And what the hell has happened to Austria? All the way down in pot 5.

Austria are shit. They've only qualified for the europeans because they're hosting it.

[Langer Dan]

all aboard

Its a relief to know such diehards will never give up the cause, eh Lamps?

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[Dapperdan]

id like
Czech Republic (spent force)
Serbia
Moldova
Liechtenstein (how are they in the 5th pot)
San Marino

[Superior]

not that i give a shit about ireland. all that could change if the fai appoint a good man though.

czechs (spent force), sweden (spent force), wales (less travel), belarus (good team and would provide a great challenge), kazaksthan (cause dat wood be niceeeeeee)

Comn England!!!

Oh dear.

[Eoin]

England or Czech Republic, Norway, Albania, Azerbaijan and the Faeroes

[Forsberg]

France - Best chance of getting points away from home imo

Poland- If for no other reason, maybe there'll be some drunken fights on Pana

Slovakia- Should be another 4 points at least

Liechtenstein- nothing more to say

Sam Marino- ditto

[elwood blues]

After losing to Croatia,England are in the second pot with Greece going into pot 1

[Lamps]

I'd love to get Poland and hammer the shit out of them.
Didn't give us one point in the Eurovision and we've taken in half a million of em.

Time we taught these langers a lesson.

[legend76]

After losing to Croatia,England are in the second pot with Greece going into pot 1

Eurosport - Fri, 23 Nov 09:44:00 2007
England have missed out on a top seeding for Sunday's 2010 World Cup draw.
European champions Greece have climbed above England in the FIFA world rankings following their European Championship qualifying exit and join Italy, Spain, Germany, the Czech Republic, France, Portugal, the Netherlands and Croatia in the pot of top seeds.
England find themselves in the second pot alongside Scotland, Romania, Turkey, Bulgaria, Russia, Poland, Sweden and Israel

we could end up getting France & England

[Langer Dan]

Id love if we got England.

[Barry Scott]

I'd love to get Poland and hammer the shit out of them.
Didn't give us one point in the Eurovision and we've taken in half a million of em.

Time we taught these langers a lesson.
Its been 6 months now, let it go

[Carmona]

I'd love to get Poland and hammer the shit out of them.
Didn't give us one point in the Eurovision and we've taken in half a million of em.

Time we taught these langers a lesson.

Most improved poster of the year, methinks!! I like ya better with a sense of humour. Now if you could have a word with bumslapper supreme Eddie Backwater.

[Rebelred]

Id love if we got England.

England in Croker would be the ultimate true test of the maturity of the nation.

[Barry Scott]

England in Croker would be the ultimate true test of the maturity of the nation.
It'd be a test of the maturity of two nations

[ho chi feen]

It'd be a test of the maturity of two nations

Fuck that! Much as I think the English get a raw deal off the continentals purely because of drinking too much (the Scots ain't universally popular either, despite what you might hear), I don't think away fans could be permitted to attend such a tie.

[xvis]

Revised final seedings for European draw: Europe scheduled for about 4pm...


I wouldn't mind France/Greece, Sweden, Lithuania, Iceland, Malta

Once Ireland avoid Cyprus they'll be okay.


Pot 1
Italy, Spain, Germany, Czech Republic, France, Portugal, Netherlands, Croatia, Greece.

Pot 2
ENGLAND, Romania, SCOTLAND, Turkey, Bulgaria, Russia, Poland, Sweden, Israel.

Pot 3
Norway, Ukraine, Serbia, Denmark, NORTHERN IRELAND, Republic of Ireland, Finland, Switzerland, Belgium.

Pot 4
Slovakia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Hungary, Moldova, WALES, FYR Macedonia, Belarus, Lithuania, Cyprus.

Pot 5
Georgia, Albania, Slovenia, Latvia, Iceland, Armenia, Austria, Kazakhastan, Azerbaijan.

Pot 6
Liechenstein, Estonia, Malta, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Andorra, Faroe Islands, San Marino.

[dotty]

Pot 1
Italy
Pot 2
ENGLAND
Pot 3
Republic of Ireland
Pot 4
FYR Macedonia/Cyprus.
Pot 5
Georgia
Pot 6
Estonia

probably worst case scenario.

dont know england are the hardest team in pot two but ideal team to come out of it.

[3pointplay]

England in Croker would be the ultimate true test of the maturity of the nation.

Or the ultimate test of our riot cops.

[mvcork]

Sad day when we worry about getting cyprus!
Richard Dunne for captain[Throw that plonker Keane off the team]Got to get Steven Ireland on board again,another cracker for citeeee yesterday.





Revised final seedings for European draw: Europe scheduled for about 4pm...


I wouldn't mind France/Greece, Sweden, Lithuania, Iceland, Malta

Once Ireland avoid Cyprus they'll be okay.


Pot 1
Italy, Spain, Germany, Czech Republic, France, Portugal, Netherlands, Croatia, Greece.

Pot 2
ENGLAND, Romania, SCOTLAND, Turkey, Bulgaria, Russia, Poland, Sweden, Israel.

Pot 3
Norway, Ukraine, Serbia, Denmark, NORTHERN IRELAND, Republic of Ireland, Finland, Switzerland, Belgium.

Pot 4
Slovakia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Hungary, Moldova, WALES, FYR Macedonia, Belarus, Lithuania, Cyprus.

Pot 5
Georgia, Albania, Slovenia, Latvia, Iceland, Armenia, Austria, Kazakhastan, Azerbaijan.

Pot 6
Liechenstein, Estonia, Malta, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Andorra, Faroe Islands, San Marino.

:D

[storysham]

Is it on tv does anyone know. fifas feed is boring

[bundyv1]

Is it on tv does anyone know. fifas feed is boring

Sky Sports News at 4 me thinks ....

[afeencalleddan]

North Korea and South Korea drawn together in Asia. Fuck Ireland and England, that's the real deal.

[afeencalleddan]

Yuck - Cyprus, Georgia and Montenegro for Ireland.

Hmmm... Bulgaria too.

...and finally Italy.

[Carmona]

Betcha anything Engurland get group 2

[doing it]

ireland will be fine with that.

englands group is a piece of piss but they probably still fuck that up!!

[Professor Piehead]

Group 1 Sweden, Denmark, Hungary, Albania, Malta

Group 2 Israel, Switzerland, Moldova, Latvia, Luxembourg

Group 3 Poland, NORTHERN IRELAND, Slovakia, Slovenia, San Marino

Group 4 Russia, Finland, WALES, Azerbaijan, Liechtenstein

Group 5 Turkey, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Armenia, Estonia

Group 6 ENGLAND, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Andorra

Group 7 Romania, Serbia, Lithuania, Austria, Faroe Islands

Group 8 Bulgaria, Republic of Ireland, Cyprus, Georgia, Montenegro

Group 9 SCOTLAND, Norway, FYR Macedonia, Iceland

[Carmona]

Or maybe 4, or 8, or. Don't matter Mourinho will get em to the final where they'll hammer a combination of Brâzil and Germany 5-0. You heard it here first!

[Carmona]

Or 6.

[Professor Piehead]

ireland will be fine with that.

englands group is a piece of piss but they probably still fuck that up!!

You won't get out of yours, you have the mighty Cyprus to face.

[megatron]

erm!!!!!!! we're fucked

[STEVIEG]

Tough group

Do-able though

Most of the groups are not that difficult most of the big teams should qualify, though not every 2nd place team will go though

[STEVIEG]

Group 8 Bulgaria, Republic of Ireland, Cyprus, Georgia, Montenegro



I saw that and said to myself, that's pretty okay!

Then i remembered the top seed!

[Professor Piehead]

I saw that and said to myself, that's pretty okay!

Then i remembered the top seed!

I can't see you getting more points than Bulgaria unfortunately, it's as simple as that. Oh dear, Italy as well.

[afeencalleddan]

ireland will be fine with that.Will they now? Don't be so sure about that.

[Professor Piehead]

Group 1 Portugal, Sweden, Denmark, Hungary, Albania, Malta

Group 2 Greece, Israel, Switzerland, Moldova, Latvia, Luxembourg

Group 3 Czech Republic, Poland, NORTHERN IRELAND, Slovakia, Slovenia, San Marino

Group 4 Germany, Russia, Finland, WALES, Azerbaijan, Liechtenstein

Group 5 Spain, Turkey, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Armenia, Estonia

Group 6 Croatia, ENGLAND, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Andorra

Group 7 France, Romania, Serbia, Lithuania, Austria, Faroe Islands

Group 8 Italy, Bulgaria, Republic of Ireland, Cyprus, Georgia, Montenegro

Group 9 Holland, SCOTLAND, Norway, FYR Macedonia, Iceland

[afeencalleddan]

I fear Georgia. Topmoeller is coach and he's giving youth a chance. They shat on Scotland in Tbilisi.

Edit: You also have the unknown quantity in Montenegro. They might turn out to be better than Cyprus.

[afeencalleddan]

Holy fuckballs, can anybody riddle me this... Why the fuck are South Africa in the qualifiers?

Edit: Panic over, just did some research. The draw doubles as qualifiers for the next African nations cup. They're guaranteed a place in the WC.

[TonyCochrane]

Holy fuckballs, can anybody riddle me this... Why the fuck are South Africa in the qualifiers?

Edit: Panic over, just did some research. The draw doubles as qualifiers for the next African nations cup. They're guaranteed a place in the WC.
What?

[scrumpy]

Ireland with a good manager and luck with injuries should qualify out of that group.

Given
Finnan
Dunne
McShane
O'Shea
Duff
Hunt
Reid
Carsley
Keane
Doyle

That team is well good enough to be there or there abouts

[afeencalleddan]

What?The African section acts as qualifiers for the World Cup AND African Nations cup, therefore, South Africa have to be in it. Their performance won't have any bearing on their guaranteed place at the WC.

[Aphex]

Ireland with a good manager and luck with injuries should qualify out of that group.

Given
Finnan
Dunne
McShane
O'Shea
Duff
Hunt
Reid
Carsley
Keane
Doyle

That team is well good enough to be there or there abouts

he was at fault for about 5 goals yesterday...

[TonyCochrane]

The African section acts as qualifiers for the World Cup AND African Nations cup, therefore, South Africa have to be in it. Their performance won't have any bearing on their guaranteed place at the WC.

All is clear now.

[megatron]

he was at fault for about 5 goals yesterday...

he's 21 yrs old give him a break

[Carmona]

Ireland with a good manager and luck with injuries should qualify out of that group.

Given
Finnan
Dunne
McShane
O'Shea
Duff
Hunt
Reid
Carsley
Keane
Doyle

That team is well good enough to be there or there abouts

Well good enough, d'ya think so. Read a good bit there in the paper saying that England were just so confident against Croatia. What the fuck have they got to be confident about? Same applies to us only a lot more so.

[mvcork]

I saw that and said to myself, that's pretty okay!

Then i remembered the top seed!

Apart from Italy if we can get a proper manager we may just get the second spot or am I waaaaaaaay too optimistic?

[mirps]

Apart from Italy if we can get a proper manager we may just get the second spot or am I waaaaaaaay too optimistic?

I don't think you are, but then again, I'm always way too optimistic with regards to Irish soccer.

I see every them, bar Italy, taking points off each other (admittedly I know nothing about Montenegro) which could give Ireland a chance of sneaking 2nd place in a very low scoring group.

Alas, they'd probably get trounced in a play off.

But there is some hope.

[Aphex]

Apart from Italy if we can get a proper manager we may just get the second spot or am I waaaaaaaay too optimistic?

cyprus will be expecting 4 points against us :lol:

[afeencalleddan]

Apart from Italy if we can get a proper manager we may just get the second spot or am I waaaaaaaay too optimistic?Almost any nation bar the real whipping boys could qualify for a world cup with the right manager. I'll hold my breath until I see what the FAI's next masterstroke is.

[Tube a Pringles]

Almost any nation bar the real whipping boys could qualify for a world cup with the right manager. I'll hold my breath until I see what the FAI's next masterstroke is.

Delaney's probably on the phone to the other lads going, "the draw is not too bad.Maybe we should give Stan another chance!?"

[Kenneth Hickey]

with decent a manager like hodgson or houllier in charge second will be a real possibility..

if its O'leary, Veneables or Jewel then its third if we're lucky..

Not a bad group all in all though at least theres no room for complacincy now..

With a decent manger and stephen Ireland and Duffer in the squad then its do-able..

Italy will beat us away might scrape a draw at home..

bulgaria are half decent alright but should be gauranteed 6 points, are one of the weaker second seeds along with sweeden..

as for the rest with cyprus we know what to expect and if we cant beast georgia and montenegro home and away then we might as well give up..

[ho chi feen]

That's a nasty group. Not the absolute toughest we could have got, but not far off either. Italy, well it's Italy; Bulgaria have a very handy squad of players (and some gems coming through); Georgia is a tough place to go to, and as for Cyprus, well they've got our number big-time.

I'd have loved a crack off NI's group. Not so sure with Worthington, but Lawrie Sanchez would have been able to get them through that one. England should be good enough for a top 2 place in their group, and Scotland have to fancy their chances. Wales can foget about it, Greece could well be making their return to the World Cup (Israel have to in with a shout for second), and Sweden paired with Denmark again.

[ho chi feen]

I don't think you are, but then again, I'm always way too optimistic with regards to Irish soccer.

I see every them, bar Italy, taking points off each other (admittedly I know nothing about Montenegro) which could give Ireland a chance of sneaking 2nd place in a very low scoring group.

Alas, they'd probably get trounced in a play off.

But there is some hope.

The problem with Italy is that they probably will drop a few points on the road, most likely in Georgia and Bulgaria. Makes no odds to them, as they'll top it with ease, but can we avoid defeat against them at home? I doubt it.

[kevinbitzz]

All I'm hoping for is a manager who will get the team playing as a team and that we don't get embarrased against the so called "lesser teams" (i.e. Cyprus etc.)

[ho chi feen]

All I'm hoping for is a manager who will get the team playing as a team and that we don't get embarrased against the so called "lesser teams" (i.e. Cyprus etc.)

I reckon they could be a banana skin,,,

:p

[kevinbitzz]

I reckon they could be a banana skin,,,

:p

Nah, shur Cyprus are shocking.......

[wayne gayle]

Did ye hear what Donadoni said?
"Bulgaria,Eire,Georgi a,Montenegro, don't have a great football tradition but are difficult opponents."
It's IRELAND fuckhead!I'd say he called us that deliberately to piss us off. Sour grapes over Giants Stadium '94 I suppose. If an England manager had said that we'd be up in arms.
Sounds like winning the World Cup has gone to their heads. Bulgaria reached the last four in '94 as well so he's kind of insulting them too.

[afeencalleddan]

with decent a manager like hodgson or houllier in charge second will be a real possibility..:crazye ye: :lol:

bulgaria are half decent alright but should be gauranteed 6 points, are one of the weaker second seeds along with sweeden..Could we have that in English please? I think you're trying to say that Ireland should be guaranteed 6 points against Bulgaria. Even with a good manager that's ridiculously optimistic. That's the kind of talk that has us disliking English fans.

[KolaKubes]

I think we've a decent chance of qualifying out of this group as runners up with a decent manager in charge.

[Eoin]

I think we've a decent chance of qualifying out of this group as runners up with a decent manager in charge.

Even if we finish second its not a guarantee of a play-off spot so I'd be very worried about it to be honest. Especially given our recent record against Cyprus.

Second is realistic, but I can't see us qualifying.

[Kenneth Hickey]

:crazyeye: :lol:

Could we have that in English please? I think you're trying to say that Ireland should be guaranteed 6 points against Bulgaria. Even with a good manager that's ridiculously optimistic. That's the kind of talk that has us disliking English fans.

Ok gauranteed maybe too strong of a word but we SHOULD get six points off them..

They look pretty average from what I've seen of them..

lost to wales last wednesday FFS!

[Rebelred]

Ok gauranteed maybe too strong of a word but we SHOULD get six points off them..

They look pretty average from what I've seen of them..

lost to wales last wednesday FFS!

We're below average at the moment. Bulgaria will be licking their lips looking at us.

[Rebel Yell]

Ok gauranteed maybe too strong of a word but we SHOULD get six points off them..

They look pretty average from what I've seen of them..

lost to wales last wednesday FFS!

Wales? Bulgaria beat Slovenia 2-0 away last wednesday.

Berbatov , Georgiev and co won't be easy, but we should be capable of getting 4 points off them with a bit of organisation and confidence...

Not the worst group in the world but hard to determine how we will do until we have a credible manager in place and a squad that believe in themselves...

[KolaKubes]

Even if we finish second its not a guarantee of a play-off spot so I'd be very worried about it to be honest. Especially given our recent record against Cyprus.

Second is realistic, but I can't see us qualifying.

I think we've a weak panel defensively but otherwise this is a strong squad we're developing. Stronger than any of the other home nations outside of England. Get the manager right and we'll coast through.

International football is a disorganised joke, headway can readily be made if you get your house in order.

[Roman Abramovich]

ireland could come out of this group with even stan in charge.

[Rebelred]

Montenegro could be dangerous, total unknowns and Vučinić up top, he should definitely give McShane a dose of the shits

[afeencalleddan]

International football is a disorganised joke, headway can readily be made if you get your house in order.EXACTLY!

[afeencalleddan]

Berbatov , Georgiev and co won't be easyBojinov is Bulgarian too, isn't he? I woke up thinking about him this morning. Thankfully, I didn't have a lazy wan.

[Edmund Blackwater]

It's a terrible group.
We got the toughest, or near it, teams out of each pot, except pot 2.
Forget about it.

[Rebel Yell]

It's a terrible group.
We got the toughest, or near it, teams out of each pot, except pot 2.
Forget about it.

You lack ferocity...

[ho chi feen]

Ok gauranteed maybe too strong of a word but we SHOULD get six points off them..

They look pretty average from what I've seen of them..

lost to wales last wednesday FFS!

Getting four points off them would be a tremendous achievement.

[Eoin]

International football is a disorganised joke, headway can readily be made if you get your house in order.

Thats a big IF. This is the FAI we're talking about.

[redrebel]

I'd love to get Poland and hammer the shit out of them.
Didn't give us one point in the Eurovision and we've taken in half a million of em.

Time we taught these langers a lesson.

show's how much you know about football ...ya muppet.

Poland finished top of their group with Portugal, Serbia , Finland & Belgium etc. like we'd get a point off them

oh and there's only 64,000 Polish here... maybe we could return the favour & deport you & POL.

[dotty]

certainly a tough group.

problem i have is finishing second doesnt guarantee a playoff spot (9 groups with the best 8 runners up) and i can see this group as low scoring,the likes of ourselves cyprus,georgia and even montenegro will all take points off each other and i dont think italy will run away with it either - could be nursing a euro hangover for the first few games,in fact we should try to get our trip to rome out of the way asap.

the key to our "success" in this group will depend on our ability to pick up points away from home,last campaign we only managed to win once away that being a last minute winner in san marino,5 points from a possible 18.

we need to go to tbilisi,podgorica and nicosia and get the three points,similiarly our qualification for '02 was helped greatly by away draws to the "stronger" teams and we must repeat that this time around.

im reserving all optimism until i see the fai's latest recruit but as dan said earlier you can achieve a lot in international football these days with basic organisation - just look at greece/NI under sanchez,we can qualify.

[Lee Bushwacker]

It's a terrible group.
We got the toughest, or near it, teams out of each pot, except pot 2.
Forget about it.
:vamp:
The pot is for shitting in or getting off!!! :silly:

[Lee Bushwacker]

show's how much you know about football ...ya muppet.

Poland finished top of their group with Portugal, Serbia , Finland & Belgium etc. like we'd get a point off them

oh and there's only 64,000 Polish here... maybe we could return the favour & deport you & POL.
Excellent idea!!!

[Professor Piehead]

show's how much you know about football ...ya muppet.

Poland finished top of their group with Portugal, Serbia , Finland & Belgium etc. like we'd get a point off them

oh and there's only 64,000 Polish here... maybe we could return the favour & deport you & POL.

Lamps exposed, there's a turn up for the plus fours.

I think you're wrong with 64,000 though, there's far more than that here, but not 500,000.

[Rebelred]

certainly a tough group.

problem i have is finishing second doesnt guarantee a playoff spot (9 groups with the best 8 runners up) and i can see this group as low scoring,the likes of ourselves cyprus,georgia and even montenegro will all take points off each other and i dont think italy will run away with it either - could be nursing a euro hangover for the first few games,in fact we should try to get our trip to rome out of the way asap.

the key to our "success" in this group will depend on our ability to pick up points away from home,last campaign we only managed to win once away that being a last minute winner in san marino,5 points from a possible 18.

we need to go to tbilisi,podgorica and nicosia and get the three points,similiarly our qualification for '02 was helped greatly by away draws to the "stronger" teams and we must repeat that this time around.

im reserving all optimism until i see the fai's latest recruit but as dan said earlier you can achieve a lot in international football these days with basic organisation - just look at greece/NI under sanchez,we can qualify.

given Scotland are in a group with only 5 teams... how does this effect the second place team in that groups chances of making the playoffs? There are 6 points less to play for so surely that would mean the second placed side in that group is at a disadvantage?

[northmallexile]

given Scotland are in a group with only 5 teams... how does this effect the second place team in that groups chances of making the playoffs? There are 6 points less to play for so surely that would mean the second placed side in that group is at a disadvantage?

I imagine they won't count games played against the side that finishes bottom of the 6-team groups. Been done that way before.

[dotty]

given Scotland are in a group with only 5 teams... how does this effect the second place team in that groups chances of making the playoffs? There are 6 points less to play for so surely that would mean the second placed side in that group is at a disadvantage?

from my friend wiki..

Format
Eight groups of six teams and one group of five will contest the European qualifying competition for the 2010 FIFA World Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup) . The nine group-winners will qualify directly, while the highest ranked eight of the nine second-placed teams will contest home and away play-off matches for the remaining four places. In determining the rank of second-placed teams, only results against those finishing 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th will be counted for consistency between the five and six team groups.

[dotty]

I imagine they won't count games played against the side that finishes bottom of the 6-team groups. Been done that way before.

ceart.

[marco 2005]

bumb, can't find a thread about S.A WC qualifiers....

Some really good game coming up at the weekend Argentina vs. Brazil.

Maradona’s Argentina’s on serious pressure, presently 4th (last qualifying place with 22 pts). He’s had to recall veterans like Palermo (35) and Schiavi (36 and 1st selection with Argentina) due to many injuries.

Next game for Argentina will be away vs. Uruguay (presently 6th with 18pts) who will be playing bottom team Peru…..

Keepers : Juan Pablo Carrizo (Saragosse/ESP), Mariano Andujar (Catane/ITA), Sergio Romero (AZ Alkmaar/HOL).
DEFENDERS : Javier Zanetti (Inter Milan/ITA), Nicolas Pareja (Espanyol Barcelone/ESP), Fabricio Coloccini (Newcastle/ANG), Gabriel Heinze (Marseille/FRA), Nicolas Otamendi, Sebastian Dominguez, Emiliano Papa (Velez Sarsfield), Rolando Schiavi (Estudiantes).
MIDFIELD : Fernando Gago (Real Madrid/ESP), Javier Mascherano (Liverpool/ANG), Maximiliano Rodriguez (Atlético Madrid/ESP), Jesus Datolo (Naples/ITA), Mario Bolatti (Huracan), Rodrigo Brana (Estudiantes).
FORWARDS : Carlos Tevez (Manchester City/ANG), Lionel Messi (FC Barcelone/ESP), Sergio Agüero (Atletico Madrid/ESP), Martin Palermo (Boca Juniors), Lisandro Lopez (Lyon/FRA), Ezequiel Lavezzi (Naples/ITA), Eduardo Salvio (Lanus).

[Lapsy Pa]

bumb, can't find a thread about S.A WC qualifiers....

Some really good game coming up at the weekend Argentina vs. Brazil.

Maradona’s Argentina’s on serious pressure, presently 4th (last qualifying place with 22 pts). He’s had to recall veterans like Palermo (35) and Schiavi (36 and 1st selection with Argentina) due to many injuries.

Next game for Argentina will be away vs. Uruguay (presently 6th with 18pts) who will be playing bottom team Peru…..

Keepers : Juan Pablo Carrizo (Saragosse/ESP), Mariano Andujar (Catane/ITA), Sergio Romero (AZ Alkmaar/HOL).
DEFENDERS : Javier Zanetti (Inter Milan/ITA), Nicolas Pareja (Espanyol Barcelone/ESP), Fabricio Coloccini (Newcastle/ANG), Gabriel Heinze (Marseille/FRA), Nicolas Otamendi, Sebastian Dominguez, Emiliano Papa (Velez Sarsfield), Rolando Schiavi (Estudiantes).
MIDFIELD : Fernando Gago (Real Madrid/ESP), Javier Mascherano (Liverpool/ANG), Maximiliano Rodriguez (Atlético Madrid/ESP), Jesus Datolo (Naples/ITA), Mario Bolatti (Huracan), Rodrigo Brana (Estudiantes).
FORWARDS : Carlos Tevez (Manchester City/ANG), Lionel Messi (FC Barcelone/ESP), Sergio Agüero (Atletico Madrid/ESP), Martin Palermo (Boca Juniors), Lisandro Lopez (Lyon/FRA), Ezequiel Lavezzi (Naples/ITA), Eduardo Salvio (Lanus).

They're hardly stuck for strikers.

He should put himself in Trppatonis' shoes, he has only one to choose from

[marco 2005]

They're hardly stuck for strikers.

He should put himself in Trppatonis' shoes, he has only one to choose from

Having only one choice makes it a lot easier, doesnt it? anyway, there are more than 1 striker available to Trap.....

Football in Argentina's a slightly bigger deal than in Eire, so the pressure's really on Diego at the mo.

He could well be remembered as the one under which Argentina suffered its biggest defeat in history and didnt qualify Argentina for a WC since 1970....

Pressure is on Diego!

[Lapsy Pa]

My point is why bring in a 35 year old who was only alright in his hay day in the national team 8/10 years ago. It's not as if he'll start ahead of Tevez, Messi, Lopez or Aguerro.