PRoC Rugby Sevens Team - Kinsale

[Echoboy]

Anyone interested in this? Its the end of May (long weekend i think) so there's a few months before it. Would need a squad of 15 i'd say.

[Lamps]

In

[ho chi feen]

Out.

[Rebel Yell]

Yep, and I can probably get a few more.

[HappyMonday83]

In

[Lamps]

captain

[HappyMonday83]

physicality at the breakdown is a must when playing 7's.

[STEVIEG]

What anthem to sing?

[Tube a Pringles]

What anthem to sing?

"Who let the dags out"


I'm out, 7s never suited me........it's a game for mooks.

[HappyMonday83]

What anthem to sing?

O canada.

[STEVIEG]

Or maybe

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=20Feq_Nt3nM

[st finnbar]

What anthem to sing?

stand up and fight:mrgreen:

[Rebel Yell]

We can do the Haka preceded by 'God save the banks' ....that will put the fear of God into them...

[norrie rugger head]

Anyone interested in this? Its the end of May (long weekend i think) so there's a few months before it. Would need a squad of 15 i'd say.

I am fairly sure that you can only register 10 players barring injury (and then i think that you can only get players from other teams that are in the same level)

[Lamps]

who wants to be masseur?

[POL]

hold the line

[RonnyB]

Lads ye'll have to be prepared as well for 'hi-jinx' outside The Market & The Greyhound with a group of lads from England who will probably being wearing dresses.

[Echoboy]

I am fairly sure that you can only register 10 players barring injury (and then i think that you can only get players from other teams that are in the same level)

Other teams? ballax, i dont play at all but would be up for a laugh like. I'd be serious about it as i'm sure everyone would be but it would only but for a laugh, not like we'd go out to win it or anything.

So you have to be registered with a real rugby team to play so yeah?

[Edmund Blackwater]

I can be a strike player who breaks the line with compunction. I can also make the hard yards and run the right lines. My physicality at the breakdown needs work, though but i amn't averse to playing a little pop pass in the tackle. It's when I get caught man and ball that i'm in trouble.

[Proinsias]

I'd play alright if it was ever going to happen.

Which, in this place, I doubt.

It's an idea though, might see if my club might want to send a team over. Be as good an excuse as any to go back to Cork.

[Lamps]

I'm thinking of pulling out as I'd be too skillfull

[Tube a Pringles]

I'm thinking of pulling out as I'd be too skillfull


........said the bishop to the actress.

[Tube a Pringles]

I can be a strike player who breaks the line with compunction. I can also make the hard yards and run the right lines. My physicality at the breakdown needs work, though but i amn't averse to playing a little pop pass in the tackle. It's when I get caught man and ball that i'm in trouble.


You'll be fine so, it's 7s........

[Proinsias]

You'll be fine so, it's 7s........

Not so much physicality at the breakdown.


POL will be disappointed.

[HappyMonday83]

Not so much physicality at the breakdown.


POL will be disappointed.

Not as much but you can't waste time getting to the breakdown either, quick ball is the key. Imagine if we won a game... there'd be the mother and father of all towel whippings after the game.

[Proinsias]

Not as much but you can't waste time getting to the breakdown either, quick ball is the key. Imagine if we won a game... there'd be the mother and father of all towel whippings after the game.

Stop turning into POL's reserve spambot.

[HappyMonday83]

Stop turning into POL's reserve spambot.

Am I wrong? Do you mean to say that if you were playing a game of 7's you wouldn't clear out a ruck, you'd be happy to let the player tackled make his own way out of it?

That's why you'll never be in the driving seat.

[EDDIEB]

Not as much but you can't waste time getting to the breakdown either, quick ball is the key. Imagine if we won a game... there'd be the mother and father of all towel whippings after the game.

very very weak.

Are you lost ?

[Tube a Pringles]

Am I wrong? Do you mean to say that if you were playing a game of 7's you wouldn't clear out a ruck, you'd be happy to let the player tackled make his own way out of it?

That's why you'll never be in the driving seat.


"game of 7's" and "ruck" used in the same sentence.......I don't think I've seen that before.

[HappyMonday83]

very very weak.

Are you lost ?

Was that the best you could come up with?

I fear you wouldn't know a ruck if it grabbed you by the sack.:lol:

[Proinsias]

Am I wrong? Do you mean to say that if you were playing a game of 7's you wouldn't clear out a ruck, you'd be happy to let the player tackled make his own way out of it?

That's why you'll never be in the driving seat.
Piss off, WUM.
"game of 7's" and "ruck" used in the same sentence.......I don't think I've seen that before.

Heh, heh, it's more like a small gathering of lost backs.

[HappyMonday83]

"game of 7's" and "ruck" used in the same sentence.......I don't think I've seen that before.

Clearly you know nothing about 7's.

http://www.usarugby.org/media/EDocs/2007_Sevens_Rugby_Re fereeing_Handbook.pd f

Have a read of that and get back to the relationships forum and go about your business.

[HappyMonday83]

Piss off, WUM.



Answer the question please.

[Proinsias]

Answer the question please.

I've been playing rugby for over 19 years, I don't think I need to answer such a simplistic question that's obviously a wind up.

Besides, I dunno what the hell you're doing in this thread, you've expressed your hate of rugby enough times, why do you feel the need to appear knowledgeable in it?

[HappyMonday83]

I've been playing rugby for over 19 years, I don't think I need to answer such a simplistic question that's obviously a wind up.

Besides, I dunno what the hell you're doing in this thread, you've expressed your hate of rugby enough times, why do you feel the need to appear knowledgeable in it?

I'd like you to find where I said I hate rugby, i've stated before that I actually play rugby. My problem is with jock bandwagoners. I even said i'd join you for the sevens.

[Tube a Pringles]

Clearly you know nothing about 7's.

http://www.usarugby.org/media/EDocs/2007_Sevens_Rugby_Re fereeing_Handbook.pd f

Have a read of that and get back to the relationships forum and go about your business.

ffs, it's refered to as the "Sweet Valley high" forum.......


it's a bad day.

[Proinsias]

I'd like you to find where I said I hate rugby, i've stated before that I actually play rugby. My problem is with jock bandwagoners. I even said i'd join you for the sevens.

Ok, well you have a very weird way of showing it, what with all the jocks and goys references.

[EDDIEB]

Was that the best you could come up with?

I fear you wouldn't know a ruck if it grabbed you by the sack.:lol:

No really you are lost are'nt you ?

Just trying to help you find your way out - in a bit too deep there and clearly out of your depth.

Fun to watch though.

[HappyMonday83]

Ok, well you have a very weird way of showing it, what with all the jocks and goys references.

I have no time for jocks of any code, and the ghoys do not represent me in anyshape or form, they brought shame on this country even more so than that soccer crowd.

[Proinsias]

I have no time for jocks of any code, and the ghoys do not represent me in anyshape or form, they brought shame on this country even more so than that soccer crowd.

Christ, what a load of dribble.

Someone, please, change the record.

[HappyMonday83]

No really you are lost are'nt you ?

Just trying to help you find your way out - in a bit too deep there and clearly out of your depth.

Fun to watch though.

http://images.jupiterimages .com/common/detail/88/70/22197088.jpg

[EDDIEB]

I have no time for jocks of any code, and the ghoys do not represent me in anyshape or form, they brought shame on this country even more so than that soccer crowd.



Shame ?

They played rubbish and way below their potential,lost 2 games of rugby - thats it.

Dissapointing - nothing else just dissapointing.

[HappyMonday83]

Christ, what a load of dribble.

Someone, please, change the record.

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[EDDIEB]

http://images.jupiterimages .com/common/detail/88/70/22197088.jpg

Are you still in school ?

Grow up F.F.S.





Soon.

[HappyMonday83]

Shame ?

They played rubbish and way below their potential,lost 2 games of rugby - thats it.

Dissapointing - nothing else just dissapointing.

Yes, shame. How many millions were spent to prepare the ghoys for the WC?
Theres a chance that they would have played better if they did no training before the WC.

If someone paid me a large sum of money to do a job i'd be ashamed of myself if I fucked it up as badly as the ghoys did in france.

[Sound]

Yes, shame. How many millions were spent to prepare the ghoys for the WC?
Theres a chance that they would have played better if they did no training before the WC.

If someone paid me a large sum of money to do a job i'd be ashamed of myself if I fucked it up as badly as the ghoys did in france.

If money equalled success in rugby, the Lions would have beaten NZ last time out and NZ would be consoling themselves with the RWC final this Saturday.

It doesn't though.

[EDDIEB]

Yes, shame. How many millions were spent to prepare the ghoys for the WC?
Theres a chance that they would have played better if they did no training before the WC.

If someone paid me a large sum of money to do a job i'd be ashamed of myself if I fucked it up as badly as the ghoys did in france.

NZ spent up to 60 million and thought that all they had to do was show up.

So as a coach you would have given the team the whole of the summer off training ? Pure stupid.Management must take a large percentage of the blame.

You have to match realism with expectation in relation to international sports in this country - at best they could have just made the semi's.A lot to be learned from England & Argentina/Pacific nations teams tactics etc.

No one died its just dissapointing - learn and move on.

[Lamps]

I heard one Irish players contract would have cost less than Georgia entire squad's wages plus their preparation bill. Think it was Hook that said it.

It was an epic implosion. They didn't just lose 2 games as some say, they weren't even competitive. Heads should roll

[EDDIEB]

I heard one Irish players contract would have cost less than Georgia entire squad's wages plus their preparation bill. Think it was Hook that said it.

It was an epic implosion. They didn't just lose 2 games as some say, they weren't even competitive. Heads should roll

Competitive does Irish sport even know what it means ?

True but England have actually improved by playing their brand of 10 man rugby as the W.C. has went on even with Johnnie Wilkinson below par they have scraped by France and Australia who tactically imploded.

Georgias national sport is wrestling and it showed with Leamy moribund on the pitch.

[HappyMonday83]

If money equalled success in rugby, the Lions would have beaten NZ last time out and NZ would be consoling themselves with the RWC final this Saturday.

It doesn't though.

I didn't suggest buying the WC, i'm talking about value for money.

NZ spent up to 60 million and thought that all they had to do was show up.

So as a coach you would have given the team the whole of the summer off training ? Pure stupid.Management must take a large percentage of the blame.

You have to match realism with expectation in relation to international sports in this country - at best they could have just made the semi's.A lot to be learned from England & Argentina/Pacific nations teams tactics etc.

No one died its just dissapointing - learn and move on.

Are you eddie's spin doctor? Airlands display in the WC wasn't down to bad luck or being a bit under the weather. What the world saw was the collapse of an international rugby team. Whatever about the brave face they may put on this was a disgrace. I bet if you asked bod he wouldn't be long telling this.

[Proinsias]

I didn't suggest buying the WC, i'm talking about value for money.



Are you eddie's spin doctor? Airlands display in the WC wasn't down to bad luck or being a bit under the weather. What the world saw was the collapse of an international rugby team. Whatever about the brave face they may put on this was a disgrace. I bet if you asked bod he wouldn't be long telling this.

Meh, you were wittering on against the national team before the world cup too. The "shame" has little to do with your bizzare attitude to the national team (I also think the other people round here who support foreign teams against Irish teams have a bizzare attitude).


Trivia Factoid #207: Brian O'Driscoll is a big Bruce Springsteen fan. At least, that's according to one of the lads on my new rugby team.

[EDDIEB]

I didn't suggest buying the WC, i'm talking about value for money.



Are you eddie's spin doctor? Airlands display in the WC wasn't down to bad luck or being a bit under the weather. What the world saw was the collapse of an international rugby team. Whatever about the brave face they may put on this was a disgrace. I bet if you asked bod he wouldn't be long telling this.

Nope EOS should go for the sake of the team,New coach and focus on winning the 6N for a start and rightly forget triple crowns.

The world did not care ! This is Ireland who were not expected to win the thing unlike NZ.

[Sound]

I didn't suggest buying the WC, i'm talking about value for money.



Are you eddie's spin doctor? Airlands display in the WC wasn't down to bad luck or being a bit under the weather. What the world saw was the collapse of an international rugby team. Whatever about the brave face they may put on this was a disgrace. I bet if you asked bod he wouldn't be long telling this.

They did indeed collapse. So what would you like to be done? The IFRU have made their bed and will give Eddie one last shot, however undeserved, in the 6N this year. With that in mind, do you want sackcloth and ashes? Public stoning? Head-shaving?

The Kiwis have been the best team in the world for years, beating everyone for fun. They'd two squads, a bag of money, a lauded manager and the hitherto acknowledged best fly-half in the world- yet they still fucked it up! That's sport.

[HappyMonday83]

Meh, you were wittering on against the national team before the world cup too. The "shame" has little to do with your bizzare attitude to the national team (I also think the other people round here who support foreign teams against Irish teams have a bizzare attitude).


Trivia Faactoid #207: Brian O'Driscoll is a big Bruce Springsteen fan. At least, that's according to one of the lads on my new rugby team.

I was looking forward to the WC and like a fool thought the ghoys would do well. I like a lot of others was taken in by eddies tangled web of lies. The driving seat indeed.

[Lamps]

Trivia Faactoid #207: Brian O'Driscoll is a big Bruce Springsteen fan. At least, that's according to one of the lads on my new rugby team.

that is so ghey

[Lamps]

Competitive does Irish sport even know what it means ?


Yes it does in fact.
Big Jack showed us, Big Mick showed us too. Then the FAI bowed to Keane and look whats happened since.

[HappyMonday83]

They did indeed collapse. So what would you like to be done? The IFRU have made their bed and will give Eddie one last shot, however undeserved, in the 6N this year. With that in mind, do you want sackcloth and ashes? Public stoning? Head-shaving?

The Kiwis have been the best team in the world for years, beating everyone for fun. They'd two squads, a bag of money, a lauded manager and the hitherto acknowledged best fly-half in the world- yet they still fucked it up! That's sport.

It's hardly fair to compare the ghoys with NZ. It took france's best game in years to knock out the all blacks, where as we were nearly beaten by a bunch of failed wrestlers.

Getting rid of eddie is not enough, the whole old boys network needs to be cleared out, and we need players who are more intrested in their game than they are doing ads for tescos.

[EDDIEB]

Yes it does in fact.
Big Jack showed us, Big Mick showed us too. Then the FAI bowed to Keane and look whats happened since.

Thats almost a generation ago Italia 90 & U.S.A.94 ?

Ironically our former coach Ashton and defensive coach Ford have England in a world cup final whilst EOS palys with his laptop and Staunton wonders what
a laptop is.

F.A.I. the great organisation that appointed Staunton.

Its all about the money & Sky etc.


Keane's not perfect but Christ he cares and was competitive as a player.

Singlehandely.....et c etc......

[Sound]

It's hardly fair to compare the ghoys with NZ. It took france's best game in years to knock out the all blacks, where as we were nearly beaten by a bunch of failed wrestlers.

Getting rid of eddie is not enough, the whole old boys network needs to be cleared out, and we need players who are more intrested in their game than they are doing ads for tescos.

I would truly love nothing more. I'm bored solid of seeing fellas who are the real thing in various positions passed by for development for fellas brothers etc. I played with Johnny Murphy who is now at Leicester and he wasn't even the 3rd best full-back at the club. He's related to a certain more high profile Irish fullback though so got a serious hand up.

The advertising thing is a red herring IMO. I was in France and every punter in the French 30 is hocking something.

[Lamps]

Thats almost a generation ago Italia 90 & U.S.A.94 ?

Ironically our former coach Ashton and defensive coach Ford have England in a world cup final whilst EOS palys with his laptop and Staunton wonders what
a laptop is.

F.A.I. the great organisation that appointed Staunton.

Its all about the money & Sky etc.


Keane's not perfect but Christ he cares and was competitive as a player.

Singlehandely.....et c etc......

Hang on Eddie, you asked the question about when was Irish sport ever competitive, i gave you examples. Don't be putting timframes on it. And 2002 isn't that long ago.

Keane put pressure on the FAI, Keane backed Kerr and when he came back said that things were a lot better than they were under McCarthy. Kerr was a shambles and Stan is worse. Oh how we'd settle for "merely qualifying and getting out of the finals group" now.

[Proinsias]

that is so ghey

Well, it was part of the story of how the whole team got incredibly smashed drunk in yer man's pub.

There was quite a good story about Shane Horgan.

[HappyMonday83]

Well, it was part of the story of how the whole team got incredibly smashed drunk in yer man's pub.

There was quite a good story about Shane Horgan.

http://www.irishrugby.ie/tools/images/players/photos/2006/irfu/126/295x300/4048.jpg
He looks like a man who'd drink a pint.

[Proinsias]

He looks like a man who'd drink a pint.

Indeed.

That was the starting point of the story at least...

[Lamps]

Did it involve a pint of manjuice?

Cos if so i don't wanna know

[EDDIEB]

[QUOTE=Lamps;1745792]Hang on Eddie, you asked the question about when was Irish sport ever competitive, i gave you examples. Don't be putting timframes on it. And 2002 isn't that long ago.

To 11 year olds its ages ago and far away in the past not to inspire them to actually play the sport etc.

They have'nt a clue about that penalty shoot-out against Romania etc.
They are more interested in current teams.

The past does'nt matter a damm to kids who want winners or at least try or care passionatly like Keane.

Christ how much longer can they wheel out Ronnie Delany or John Tracy for winning a few races 30+ years ago.

Quit glorifying the past and plan for the future with facilities,coaching for all sports in this country.

[Lamps]

To 11 year olds its ages ago and far away in the past not to inspire them to actually play the sport etc.

They have'nt a clue about that penalty shoot-out against Romania etc.
They are more interested in current teams.

The past does'nt matter a damm to kids who want winners or at least try or care passionatly like Keane.

Christ how much longer can they wheel out Ronnie Delany or John Tracy for winning a few races 30+ years ago.

Quit glorifying the past and plan for the future with facilities,coaching for all sports in this country.

2002 World Cup, incl qualifying out of a group with two of the 4 best teams in Europe at the time.

[HappyMonday83]

2002 World Cup, incl qualifying out of a group with two of the 4 best teams in Europe at the time.

You're not wrong. It's hard to imagine that the events of 2002 would now be viewed as to glory days, but alas they are.

[EDDIEB]

2002 World Cup, incl qualifying out of a group with two of the 4 best teams in Europe at the time.

Show me the Trophy ?

Ireland have well beaten the finalists for the Rugby world cup in the past year.

Should we be clutching at straws and celebrating ?

A country that celebrates nearly men and women ?

[Lamps]

Show me the Trophy ?

Ireland have well beaten the finalists for the Rugby world cup in the past year.

Should we be clutching at straws and celebrating ?

A country that celebrates nearly men and women ?

Hold on now Eddie, you were on about being competitive in sports, now its "show me the trophy".

All I'm saying is that Ireland were competitive in soccer, then some prick decided that that wasn't good enough and went about wrecking everything as best he could in the name of progress. He was completely wrong in what he thought and results since have shown that.

Maybe its veering off topic but its the truth and its time people faced up to it.

ps South Africa were taking it handy and Eddie in his all his glorious wisdom was building up ranking points and well you know it.

[Sound]

Irelands bad results at present is Keane's fault?

If I didn't know you were wumming, I'd think you were retarded.

[POL]

hold the line lads, HOLD THE LINE!

[EDDIEB]

Hold on now Eddie, you were on about being competitive in sports, now its "show me the trophy".

Exactly be competitive and achieve something.Set the bar a bit higher rather than be the "Brave & Plucky Irish"

All I'm saying is that Ireland were competitive in soccer, then some prick decided that that wasn't good enough and went about wrecking everything as best he could in the name of progress. He was completely wrong in what he thought and results since have shown that.

Yes we now have a fantastic manager and WINNING results qualifying for every tournament under a professional F.A.I.

Also Keane takes on a rubbish Sunderland with every Irish reject player from these islands and is surviving (so far) in the much over rated premiership which by your own criteria is a success.

Maybe its veering off topic but its the truth and its time people faced up to it.

ps South Africa were taking it handy and Eddie in his all his glorious wisdom was building up ranking points and well you know it.


You can only play whats put in front of you.Meanwhile our former coach and defensive coach have taken England to the final - a team we have been walloping since 2003.

But there you go thats why we love sport.

[Lamps]

Irelands bad results at present is Keane's fault?

If I didn't know you were wumming, I'd think you were retarded.

Irish soccer lad.

He was the start of the fall and well you know it

[Lamps]

You can only play whats put in front of you.Meanwhile our former coach and defensive coach have taken England to the final - a team we have been walloping since 2003.

But there you go thats why we love sport.

what is your point?

[Sound]

Irish soccer lad.

He was the start of the fall and well you know it

Sound.

[STEVIEG]

Irelands bad results at present is Keane's fault?

If I didn't know you were wumming, I'd think you were retarded.

It's a major SFI contradiction

They even celebrate McCarthy, who's team won less games in the World Cup than Eddie O'Sullivans

[Edmund Blackwater]

It's a major SFI contradiction

They even celebrate McCarthy, who's team won less games in the World Cup than Eddie O'Sullivans
and yet, somehow did enough to get out of their pool.
Also, didn't lose a game.
McCarthy - undefeated at the world cup excluding penalties

[homer jay]

and yet, somehow did enough to get out of their pool.
Also, didn't lose a game.
McCarthy - undefeated at the world cup excluding penalties


he's got ya there stevie :)

[STEVIEG]

and yet, somehow did enough to get out of their pool.
Also, didn't lose a game.
McCarthy - undefeated at the world cup excluding penalties


Wow, Another gallant Irish failure whoopty fucking wooooo let's get the open top buses out we drew with mighty Cameroon and lost to serial chokers Spain

That's far more embarrassing than celebrating Triple Crowns

[Edmund Blackwater]

Wow, Another gallant Irish failure whoopty fucking wooooo let's get the open top buses out we drew with mighty Cameroon and lost to serial chokers Spain

That's far more embarrassing than celebrating Triple Crowns
Ireland never claimed to be the best in the world, Arland did.

[STEVIEG]

Ireland never claimed to be the best in the world, Arland did.

Both are failures in my book


Roy Keane was right, the time to celebrate showing up and giving it our best is long gone

Crap preparations aside, Ireland COULD well have won the World Cup in rugby this year and also, the soccer World Cups of 1990 and 2002 and even 1994

There wasn't that much quality in any of the tournaments, mentally we have to believe we can first and foremost

[Edmund Blackwater]

Both are failures in my book


Roy Keane was right, the time to celebrate showing up and giving it our best is long gone

Crap preparations aside, Ireland COULD well have won the World Cup in rugby this year and also, the soccer World Cups of 1990 and 2002 and even 1994

There wasn't that much quality in any of the tournaments, mentally we have to believe we can first and foremost
Someone should have told the goys how many sponsorship contracts they could have got if they won it.

Ireland couldn't have won wc90, wc 94 or wc02, though they could have gotten further in 02 if a certain somebody didn't walk out and leave his team and his country in the drink.

[STEVIEG]

[QUOTE=Edmund Blackwater;1746170]

Ireland couldn't have won wc90, wc 94 or wc02, /QUOTE]

That's the attitude that makes us celebrate failure

[STEVIEG]

Someone should have told the goys how many sponsorship contracts they could have got if they won it.



True

[EDDIEB]

[QUOTE=Edmund Blackwater;1746170]

Ireland couldn't have won wc90, wc 94 or wc02, /QUOTE]

That's the attitude that makes us celebrate failure

The cult of failure !

AH SURE WE TOOK PART AND DATS ALL DAT METTERS

[Proinsias]

So, the sevens?


Not going to bother then, I take it?

[homer jay]

PROC are in the driving seat now.

[Lamps]

[QUOTE=STEVIEG;174617 5]

The cult of failure !

AH SURE WE TOOK PART AND DATS ALL DAT METTERS

You're wrong Eddie, its just that people got spoilt. Ireland were overachieveing, sure it would be nice to win the world cup, ask Holland or Spain or Portugal or even England but getting to the quarter finals with Ireland is not failure, I think the homecoming in 1990 was justified, the other two not so, but thats just the bandwagon nature of sport. The problem started when people like yourself and Stevie started believing Keane's bullshit. How would Keane like if if he had some pr*ck in his SundIreland team calling the shots saying premiership survival wasn't good enough, that they should be winning it?

Keane through his statements and actions got rid of McCarthy and ushered in the Brian Kerr era with the carrot of him returning. Moreover he said things were a whole lot better under Kerr. Kerr was a man clearly not up to the job, and the demise of Irish soccer began.

These are the facts lads.

[HappyMonday83]

So, the sevens?


Not going to bother then, I take it?

I'll join you although I doubt i'm suited to sevens, being a 2nd row with no pace.

[Proinsias]

I'll join you although I doubt i'm suited to sevens, being a 2nd row with no pace.

I'm a prop that's lost loads of weight, so I'm happiest in any one of tighthead, openside or full back.

Which means I'm probably most useful for front row in sevens, what with the mickey mouse scrums.

[POL]

I'd love to see Prionsias throw it around with careless abandon to get the backline moving

[HappyMonday83]

I'm a prop that's lost loads of weight, so I'm happiest in any one of tighthead, openside or full back.

Which means I'm probably most useful for front row in sevens, what with the mickey mouse scrums.

Looks like six fella fighting over a lost euro outside abrakebabra.

[EDDIEB]

[QUOTE=EDDIEB;1746461]

You're wrong Eddie, its just that people got spoilt. Ireland were overachieveing, sure it would be nice to win the world cup, ask Holland or Spain or Portugal or even England but getting to the quarter finals with Ireland is not failure, I think the homecoming in 1990 was justified, the other two not so, but thats just the bandwagon nature of sport. The problem started when people like yourself and Stevie started believing Keane's bullshit. How would Keane like if if he had some pr*ck in his SundIreland team calling the shots saying premiership survival wasn't good enough, that they should be winning it?

He would love it rather than have some journeyman player without ambition happy to swan around the park not caring if they won or lost just looking forward to the next pay cheque.

Somebody has to call the bloody shots and show some leadership.

The lack of ambition and acceptance of a losing mentality in this country is the problem.


These are the facts lads.

Biased opinion rather than facts.

[Lamps]

Eddie lad, that is just wrong. You're telling Keane would love some lad to be undermining him and his team at every opportuninty and would give him license to do it just cos he was better than the rest.

How well have we done since Keane walked out on the country for our own good?

Keane may well have had a point if getting McCarthy the sack was the reason that Ireland made the jump from relatively competitve soccer team to genuine world cup contenters BUT what actually happened is we went to shit and dropped about 50 world rankings places

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Eddie lad, that is just wrong. You're telling Keane would love some lad to be undermining him and his team at every opportuninty and would give him license to do it just cos he was better than the rest.

How well have we done since Keane walked out on the country for our own good?

Keane may well have had a point if getting McCarthy the sack was the reason that Ireland made the jump from relatively competitve soccer team to genuine world cup contenters BUT what actually happened is we went to shit and dropped about 50 world rankings places


There's about as much logic in that as blaming Keane for the bad Summer.

This is unconvincing horseshit and not fertile ground for wumming.

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There's about as much logic in that as blaming Keane for the bad Summer.

This is unconvincing horseshit and not fertile ground for wumming.

I blame him for that ape Kerr, who he wholeheartedly endorsed. That started the rot. Would you deny that?

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I blame him for that ape Kerr, who he wholeheartedly endorsed. That started the rot. Would you deny that?

Keane is in the FAI now? You're making about 4 logical leaps here. FFS, give over.

[EDDIEB]

Eddie lad, that is just wrong. You're telling Keane would love some lad to be undermining him and his team at every opportuninty and would give him license to do it just cos he was better than the rest.

How well have we done since Keane walked out on the country for our own good?

Keane may well have had a point if getting McCarthy the sack was the reason that Ireland made the jump from relatively competitve soccer team to genuine world cup contenters BUT what actually happened is we went to shit and dropped about 50 world rankings places

Absolutly RK loves people telling it like it is on and off the pitch.Sure he did it himself at O.T. fro years and thats what he learned at Notting ham Forrest under Clough.Tell it like it is and enough politically correct fannying about/

So it has nothing to do with poor management by the FAI,Succesive managers,Squad of players and subsequent and current failures of the Irish soccer team is all down to Roy Keans demands for perfection ?

It must be great let-off for the FAI for everything.

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Keane is in the FAI now? You're making about 4 logical leaps here. FFS, give over.

Keane was the instigator of McCarthy's dismissal, he planted a few of his well timed media bombshells after Big Mick lost the first two games, something along the lines of "I'll come back and save ye, if he gets the sack".

He was sacked, Kerr came in, Keane endorsed it.

Since Saipan Keane has been an extremely destructive force against the progress of Irish soccer. There are others but he is also one.

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So it has nothing to do with poor management by the FAI,Succesive managers,Squad of players and subsequent and current failures of the Irish soccer team is all down to Roy Keans demands for perfection ?

It must be great let-off for the FAI for everything.

I never said that.

Roy Keane's demands for perfection?

Two words
Brian Kerr

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No danger of the losing of games being the major factor in the dismissal then? Would the all-powerful Royston have been able to get him sacked if the games hadn't been lost?

Did Keane pick Beaker?

This has more holes in it than a lump of Swiss cheese.

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No danger of the losing of games being the major factor in the dismissal then? Would the all-powerful Royston have been able to get him sacked if the games hadn't been lost?

Did Keane pick Beaker?

This has more holes in it than a lump of Swiss cheese.

Would you say Roy Keane has been a positive influence on the Irish soccer team since May 2002?

[Proinsias]

How well have we done since Keane walked out on the country for our own good?


When was that?

I recall Mick McCarthy sending him home once, some time in 2002, I believe, but I don't recall any time Roy Keane walked out...

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McCarthy should have been given time, he'd earned it.

Look at the shit Stan and Kerr are let off with, Mick lost unluckily to two big teams.

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When was that?

I recall Mick McCarthy sending him home once, some time in 2002, I believe, but I don't recall any time Roy Keane walked out...

Are you sure about that?

[EDDIEB]

When was that?

I recall Mick McCarthy sending him home once, some time in 2002, I believe, but I don't recall any time Roy Keane walked out...

Oh Christ you have gone and done it now - SFI code red.

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Would you say Roy Keane has been a positive influence on the Irish soccer team since May 2002?

Answer my questions first.

[POL]

When was that?

I recall Mick McCarthy sending him home once, some time in 2002, I believe, but I don't recall any time Roy Keane walked out...
he did walk out

[Proinsias]

Are you sure about that?

Pretty sure. I recall he considered leaving the night before, but was told to go the next day.

Errah, I suppose that was Mick McCarthy's way of management, like his style of soccer. They can't score from row Z and Keane can't cause trouble from England.

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Answer my questions first.

I have no problem answering them, what are they?

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From rugby to Keane!

YAY!!!!

:bday:

PS. Rio is fucking shit!

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Oh Christ you have gone and done it now - SFI code red.

:)

[POL]

Pretty sure. I recall he considered leaving the night before, but was told to go the next day.

Errah, I suppose that was Mick McCarthy's way of management, like his style of soccer. They can't score from row Z and Keane can't cause trouble from England.
stick to what you know jock, spoofing about rugby and inventing wierd names for rugby moves, I posted this before so get ready for a battle you are going to most definitely going to lose

Keane walked out on his country. He threw a tantrum about training pitches and walked out. They called up Colin Healy to replace him. They couldnt get Keane a flight home in time so he stayed there kicking his heels for another day. Then things were patched up. He went back into the squad. Then he had his big row with McCarthy and then he was sent home. So he did walk out, the only thing stopping him was a lack of a flight home.

Case Closed.

[Proinsias]

stick to what you know jock, spoofing about rugby and inventing wierd names for rugby moves, I posted this before so get ready for a battle you are going to most definitely going to lose

Keane walked out on his country. He threw a tantrum about training pitches and walked out. They called up Colin Healy to replace him. They couldnt get Keane a flight home in time so he stayed there kicking his heels for another day. Then things were patched up. He went back into the squad. Then he had his big row with McCarthy and then he was sent home. So he did walk out, the only thing stopping him was a lack of a flight home.

Case Closed.

He said he was leaving, but he hadn't actually left.

Ergo, he didn't walk out. He never left the team camp.

[POL]

ergo my hole, he walked out on his country

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Logic has left the building on all sides.

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He said he was leaving, but he hadn't actually left.

Ergo, he didn't walk out. He never left the team camp.

That sounds like some focking lawyer speak Frank.

Tell Colin Healy that why don't you, the lad is about 26 and stuck with Cork City, it would have been the highlight of his career.

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Logic has left the building on all sides.

I think your questions were:

1) Did the results have anything to do with it?
Yes, BUT Keane was putting every bit of pressure he had with Saipan fresh in everyones minds to settle a score with McCarthy. He wouldn't have gotten the sack of Keane hadn't put on the pressure.

2) Kerr was the FAI's choice. A major step backwards. Keane endorsed Kerr saying things were a lot more professional when he re-joined. If that was the case then get them back on the beer.


Now do you think Keane has been a positive influence on the team since May 2002?

[Proinsias]

That sounds like some focking lawyer speak Frank.

Tell Colin Healy that why don't you, the lad is about 26 and stuck with Cork City, it would have been the highlight of his career.

Tis still true.

Poor form for Healy alright. If only Ireland had managed to qualify for the last world cup...

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Logic has left the building on all sides.

Who do you think you are? Mr Spock

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Tis still true.

Poor form for Healy alright. If only Ireland had managed to qualify for the last world cup...

Yeah, Roy was involved in that wasn't he?

How did that work out. Last minute leads lost, 2 goal leads given away not against Holland away, but Israel at home.(*)

Where was Keane saying it wasn't good enough then?

[STEVIEG]

McCarthy has reached his level at the moment

A fairly decent Championship manager who was an average hardworking player in his time

Likeable enough fellow, but when push came to shove, not up to it

If he was a good manager he would have realised that Spain were down to ten men in the World cup game

His terrible Euro qualifiers against Switzerland and Russia were hardly Keane's fault

You should be happy lads

You got your last 16 and open top bus in Phoenix Park

It's amazing how people can turn their back so much on a fellow Corkman, yet have a go at anyone who doesn't fit in with their agenda (though it is a good WUM, if a bit tiresome 5 years on)

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Colin Healy is a fellow corkman too Stevie

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I think your questions were:

1) Did the results have anything to do with it?
Yes, BUT Keane was putting every bit of pressure he had with Saipan fresh in everyones minds to settle a score with McCarthy. He wouldn't have gotten the sack of Keane hadn't put on the pressure.

2) Kerr was the FAI's choice. A major step backwards. Keane endorsed Kerr saying things were a lot more professional when he re-joined. If that was the case then get them back on the beer.


Now do you think Keane has been a positive influence on the team since May 2002?


1) He would also not have gotten the sack if the results weren't shit. That means you cant blame Keane unfortunately.

2) So the FAI chose Beaker. Would you have preferred Keane to come in and say 'This bloke hasn't a clue'? If he had done so there'd have been even more strife.

No I wouldn't think he was as positive an influence as he could have been.

[POL]

McCarthy has reached his level at the moment

A fairly decent Championship manager who was an average hardworking player in his time

Likeable enough fellow, but when push came to shove, not up to it

If he was a good manager he would have realised that Spain were down to ten men in the World cup game

His terrible Euro qualifiers against Switzerland and Russia were hardly Keane's fault

It's amazing how people can turn their back so much on a fellow Corkman, yet have a go at anyone who doesn't fit in with their agenda (though it is a good WUM, if a bit tiresome 5 years on)and tell us what level is Keanus the Penis operating at, at the moment?

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You should be happy lads

You got your last 16 and open top bus in Phoenix Park



Weak Stevie

[EDDIEB]

It's amazing how people can turn their back so much on a fellow Corkman, yet have a go at anyone who doesn't fit in with their agenda (though it is a good WUM, if a bit tiresome 5 years on)

Sure its a good wum I will give them that but it could have been great !

Rugby Sevens Kinsale anyone ?:D

[STEVIEG]

Colin Healy is a fellow corkman too Stevie

and........

He wasn't good enough to get into the original squad


Big deal, if McCarthy thought he was good enough he should have picked him

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1) He would also not have gotten the sack if the results weren't shit. That means you cant blame Keane unfortunately.

2) So the FAI chose Beaker. Would you have preferred Keane to come in and say 'This bloke hasn't a clue'? If he had done so there'd have been even more strife.


1) I disagree.

2) I thought he was a man of his word, he was saying it was shit under McCarthy for long enough.
So either he
a) Lied or
b) Thought it was great under Kerr.

[Proinsias]

Yeah, Roy was involved in that wasn't he?

How did that work out. Last minute leads lost, 2 goal leads given away not against Holland away, but Israel at home.(*)

Where was Keane saying it wasn't good enough then?
Think I'll make this the last one on this, it's boring, I'm right and there's work to do
Keane was on his last legs, possibly sacrificing a further playing season to come back to play with his country. He wasn't the player he used to be and when his abilities fade, there's not much he could do to play the team out of trouble, if the other players aren't up to it.

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and........

He wasn't good enough to get into the original squad


Big deal, if McCarthy thought he was good enough he should have picked him

Keane had no interest being there, he should have just come clean before the squad was picked.

[STEVIEG]

and tell us what level is Keanus the Penis operating at, at the moment?

a higher level


He is still a rookie, McCarthy should be at the peak of his managerial career


Fair enough, Keane might not make it as a manager but only time will tell

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a higher level


He is still a rookie, McCarthy should be at the peak of his managerial career


Fair enough, Keane might not make it as a manager but only time will tell

Are you going to vote in the poll.

[STEVIEG]

What pisses me off is that all the hard work that Keane put in in the qualifying campaign cost United a few points that season:):):)















This WUMMING is actually fun

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1) I disagree.

2) I thought he was a man of his word, he was saying it was shit under McCarthy for long enough.
So either he
a) Lied or
b) Thought it was great under Kerr.


1) Unfortunately it's not a matter of differing opinions, it's just logic. Your logic is faulty.
2) Yup.

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Keane was on his last legs, possibly sacrificing a further playing season to come back to play with his country. He wasn't the player he used to be and when his abilities fade, there's not much he could do to play the team out of trouble, if the other players aren't up to it.

Cop out. He should have still demanded the same stanards of others, why wasn't he barking mad in the media when he was part of the Kerr shambles than he backed. His whole thing was that he didn't expect players to be as good as him just that they were willining to put in as much.

Did the Kerr era team put it all in, after blowing a very good position in the group? Kerr making a complete balls of substitutions as well. Not a peep from Roy then.

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What pisses me off is that all the hard work that Keane put in in the qualifying campaign cost United a few points that season:):):)



That English club

[STEVIEG]

Are you going to vote in the poll.

No, you are not trying to set people up

These days quarter finals should be the minimium, we have a manager not capable and a worse set up
Struggling for third in our group is embarrassing

Back in 1990, 1994 and 2002 it could have been won

Ireland beat Italy in 94 and the team who narrowly beat them on pens struggled past crap teams like USA

In 1990 Italy were not that much superior on the day and could have been beaten, as could Argentina and Germany

In 2002 a German team Ireland could have beaten also got to the final

Gallant failures are always good enough for this country, but back then we had good enough players to do better

[STEVIEG]

That English club

Captained by that Cork man at the time

That English Country you will shouting for on Saturday in a rugby match, one in who you have often shouted for against your country (don't worry, i don't have major national pride either)

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No, you are not trying to set people up

These days quarter finals should be the minimium, we have a manager not capable and a worse set up
Struggling for third in our group is embarrassing

Back in 1990, 1994 and 2002 it could have been won

Ireland beat Italy in 94 and the team who narrowly beat them on pens struggled past crap teams like USA

In 1990 Italy were not that much superior on the day and could have been beaten, as could Argentina and Germany

In 2002 a German team Ireland could have beaten also got to the final

Gallant failures are always good enough for this country, but back then we had good enough players to do better

I am not trying to set anyone up as you say. Just vote in it.

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Captained by that Cork man at the time

That English Country you will shouting for on Saturday in a rugby match, one in who you have often shouted for against your country (don't worry, i don't have major national pride either)

So they are English?

[STEVIEG]

So they are English?

Whatever you want them to be

I'm posting here long enough to remember you banging on about Chelsea, the team you used support and talk about on the PROC, so the bandwagons go both ways

At least i've stuck to my guns and been consistent on who i support

If one of the rugby lads suddenly changed his tack you would never let him forget about it

Lucky for you, there are only a few of us around who remember those days

And luckier for you, noone really cared about your posts back then, as you had yet to assert yourself as a Lord of the internet (this bit is a compliment by the way:)

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Whatever you want them to be

I'm posting here long enough to remember you banging on about Chelsea, the team you used support and talk about on the PROC, so the bandwagons go both ways

At least i've stuck to my guns and been consistent on who i support

If one of the rugby lads suddenly changed his tack you would never let him forget about it

Lucky for you, there are only a few of us around who remember those days

And luckier for you, noone really cared about your posts back then, as you had yet to assert yourself as a Lord of the internet (this bit is a compliment by the way:)

I've said it many times, only a fool never changes his mind.

I usen't mind Munster one time, pre-Proc. Was a bit like yourself, would like to see them do well. I find this place makes you confront such opinions and ask oneself the hard questions.

Blind faith is a good thing for some, not me.

[STEVIEG]

I've said it many times, only a fool never changes his mind.

I usen't mind Munster one time, pre-Proc. Was a bit like yourself, would like to see them do well. I find this place makes you confront such opinions and ask oneself the hard questions.

Blind faith is a good thing for some, not me.

Fair enuff

[Rebel Yell]

I've said it many times, only a fool never changes his mind.

I usen't mind Munster one time, pre-Proc. Was a bit like yourself, would like to see them do well. I find this place makes you confront such opinions and ask oneself the hard questions.

Blind faith is a good thing for some, not me.

So you change your mind on a whim, or on the whims of others...weak, very weak...

Personally, I believe that you should stick with your team through thick and thin, and don't give a f**k what other people do/say...so what if, for example, rugby has attracted a lot of the D4 wannabe types ...I stand and hear them at Thomond or Musgrave park and hear some of the crap that they come out with sometimes and it would make you cringe, as I have heard at some of the big GAA games also, but that wouldn't make me change my mind on a particular sport...at least some of these people are contributing by paying in to see the games, so the sport wins in the end...

[HappyMonday83]

I notice a lot of the rogby jocks have stayed well away from this thread. Where are all the jocks who claimed to know everything about the game now?
As I thought, once actually playing the game get's brought up they all vanish. So far only ex-fat frank has stood up.

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I live in Dublin.

And, far more importantly, internet meet-ups are ghey.

[POL]

I live in Dublin.

And, far more importantly, internet meet-ups are ghey.
rubbish, you are afraid of Prionsias's physicality at the breakdown

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rubbish, you are afraid of Prionsias's physicality at the breakdown

Rubbish.

I am attracted by his physicality at the breakdown, Sailor!

[Edmund Blackwater]

I notice a lot of the rogby jocks have stayed well away from this thread. Where are all the jocks who claimed to know everything about the game now?
As I thought, once actually playing the game get's brought up they all vanish. So far only ex-fat frank has stood up.
Couldn't get their hands on the Irish Times Bluffer's Guide and I'd imagine they don't want to be shown up.

[Rebelred]

I notice a lot of the rogby jocks have stayed well away from this thread. Where are all the jocks who claimed to know everything about the game now?
As I thought, once actually playing the game get's brought up they all vanish. So far only ex-fat frank has stood up.

most jocks don't play rogby I'd imagine, they'll all be there in the Heino tent though I'd wager