The title of this thread makes no sense...but u know what i mean Lamps

[The Godfather]

we'll say the best Irish man would have to be Roy Keane

The best Danish man would be Peter Schmichael

Russia...andrei kanchelskis etc


who was the better french man, cantona or henry

is sheva the best ukranian or will andrei vornoin be better

who is the better czech...berger or cech

[POL]

Irish: Paul McGrath

[The Godfather]

ya maybe true....probably get some opposition to that...imagine how good mcgrath would of really been had he been sober while playing

[Lamps]

Anyone who thinks Roy Keane was a better player than McGrath should be shot

[HappyMonday83]

Anyone who thinks Roy Keane was a better player than McGrath should be shot

Spot on, keane isn't even the best player to come out of cork nevermind ireland.

[The Godfather]

its a pity mcgraths career hadnt spanned more into the premiership

[emurf]

Jamaican: John Barnes

[The Godfather]

brazilian: gilberto?

german: klinsmann

[Lamps]

its a pity mcgraths career hadnt spanned more into the premiership

why?

Are you changing the rules?

[The Godfather]

why?

Are you changing the rules?

no not at all, but the time the premiership started was the time keanes career was just getting started...mcgrath was well into his. i'm just wondering if mcgrath had a few more years of playing in the premiership the impact he could of had

[Lamps]

no not at all, but the time the premiership started was the time keanes career was just getting started...mcgrath was well into his. i'm just wondering if mcgrath had a few more years of playing in the premiership the impact he could of had

There was soccer pre-93.

[jd26]

It's all in the question. How do you treat a great player like Ballack who is winding down his career in the Premiership and not showing the skill he once had? Should he be in line for best German? McGrath's best days were behind him by the time the Premiership started.

For a few other nationalities. American Brad Friedel. Icelandic Eidur Gudjonsson.

Finland gives you the McGrath problem. Litmanen is the greatest Finn to have played in the Premiership, but Jaskelainen or Niemi had more impact in their careers in the Premiership.

[The Godfather]

hey lamps read the title of the thread

[Lamps]

hey lamps read the title of the thread

then there's no problem with mcgrath then. no matter how long he played.

[marco 2005]

Dutch: Denis Magic Bergkamp.
Italian: Zola
Spanish: new type of immigration to the PL so this has to be Fabregas.
Sweden: Ljungberg as Laarson came to Utd too late.
French: Has to be Henry, Cantona and Ginola would just be trailing behind him. Could have been Anelka.

[Lamps]

Dutch: Denis Magic Bergkamp.
Italian: Zola
Spanish: new type of immigration to the PL so this has to be Fabregas.
Sweden: Ljungberg as Laarson came to Utd too late.
French: Has to be Henry, Cantona and Ginola would just be trailing behind him. Could have been Anelka.

Deschampes and Desaiily better than Cantona and Ginola, well established fact there lad.

[POL]

It's all in the question. How do you treat a great player like Ballack who is winding down his career in the Premiership and not showing the skill he once had? Should he be in line for best German? McGrath's best days were behind him by the time the Premiership started.

For a few other nationalities. American Brad Friedel. Icelandic Eidur Gudjonsson.

Finland gives you the McGrath problem. Litmanen is the greatest Finn to have played in the Premiership, but Jaskelainen or Niemi had more impact in their careers in the Premiership.1993 Players Player of the year

[Lamps]

1993 Players Player of the year

PNWNED

[RICH]

France - Desailly

Ireland - Denis Irwin

[The Godfather]

litmanen did nothing in the premiership....i'd give the best finn to hyypia

[The Godfather]

what about italian....zola i guess

[Lamps]

Irish: Paul McGrath
Welsh:Mark Hughes
English Big Al
Scotch: Strachan/McAllister
German: Klinsman
Italian: Vialli
Spanish: Hierro
French: Desailly

[Lamps]

litmanen did nothing in the premiership....i'd give the best finn to hyypia

are you changing the rules again?

read the title

[emurf]

[QUOTE=marco 2005;1711223]Spanish: new type of immigration to the PL so this has to be Fabregas.
QUOTE]

No way , it has to be Alonso

[The Godfather]

how can u claim hierro as the best spaniard, yes he played in the premiership but wasnt great....maybe i should of made the title clearer for u

[The Godfather]

now title changed....do you get the message now

[Lamps]

now title changed....do you get the message now

completely different question nimrod

[elwood blues]

now title changed....do you get the message now

the title now makes little sense.

[RonnyB]

Makalele could have a say in the French thing.

For me here it goes

Irish - It's between Keane & McGrath. McGrath is the best Irish player ever IMO but struggled I felt with Villa in the 93/94 season & 94/95. when Villa had 3 at the back he was awesome.
English - Shearer
French - Vieira
Spanish - Fabregas
Dutch - Bergkamp
Italian - Zola
German - Klinsmann (Hamann deserves a shout too)
Danish - Schmeichel
Scottish - McAllister
Welsh - Giggs
Swedish - Ljungberg
Norweigen - Solskjaer
Brazilian - Juninho
Australian - Viduka for goals. Bosnich for sheer talent wasted.
American - McBride or John Harkes
Argentinian - Heinze?? (Cant think of many besides Veron)

[numnuts]

no not at all, but the time the premiership started was the time keanes career was just getting started...mcgrath was well into his. i'm just wondering if mcgrath had a few more years of playing in the premiership the impact he could of had

wheather he played in the old first division or the prermiership has nothing to do with his impact or legacy. for the sake of the children please think before you write such nonsense.

[Carmona]

Irish: Paul McGrath
Welsh:Mark Hughes
English Big Al
Scotch: Strachan/McAllister
German: Klinsman
Italian: Vialli
Spanish: Hierro
French: Desailly

That's so wrong it's almost funny. Hierro!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Washed up reject who played for Big Sam for a few months. Good one Lampoo.

[Lamps]

wheather he played in the old first division or the prermiership has nothing to do with his impact or legacy. for the sake of the children please think before you write such nonsense.

correct

[Lamps]

That's so wrong it's almost funny. Hierro!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Washed up reject who played for Big Sam for a few months. Good one Lampoo.


Best spanish player by a mile, fabregas may one day be regarded as better but not yet

[emurf]

Best spanish player by a mile, fabregas may one day be regarded as better but not yet

Alonso is twice the player

[Lamps]

Alonso is twice the player

than who roland?

[marco 2005]

Deschampes and Desaiily better than Cantona and Ginola, well established fact there lad.

Agree for Desailly,

Cantona compared to Deschamps in the PL??

How can you compare Deschamps who played only 1 season in England and Cantona? thats just complete nonsense.

This thread is about PL impact i believe not about a player's carreer.

If you just say DD's better than Canto, then you must be referring to DD from la Juventus i assume.

[HeeAirO]

Alonso is twice the player

If the implication here is that Alonso is twice the player than Hierro was then that is a very ignorant state of play.
I only hope you mean that Alonso is twice the player that Fabregas is....

[Lamps]

This thread is about PL impact i believe not about a player's carreer.



this thread had its title changed half way through cos the lad who started it, didn't like the way it was going.

he put in the impact line so that Giggs,Keane and Cantona would get in.

The SFI rumbled him and he buckled badly

[elwood blues]

Its not even about individual players now, it's actual Nationalities.

[Lamps]

Its not even about individual players now, it's actual Nationalities.

that lad has lost it.

he rattled himself

[Edmund Blackwater]

I'm going to say the Scots.

[homer jay]

french i'd say

[marco 2005]

french too...

thats a bit of a shit thread now in fairness

[Lamps]

Which premiership?

Its not clear from the title.

[kevinbitzz]

Malian: Djimi Traore,

[The Godfather]

Malian: Djimi Traore,

ha ha...try sissoko



on another note, senegal....patrick viera was born there

[Lamps]

Godfather has gone postal.

:)

[marco 2005]

Ivory Coast: Drogba
Ghana: Essien
Togo: Adebayor
Korea: Park

these are easy as there are so few of them

[The Godfather]

Godfather has gone postal.

:)


na i just couldnt be bothered me hole arguing such a trivial matter with u...plus i've to work tonight so i'm conserving my arguing powers ;)

[emurf]

If the implication here is that Alonso is twice the player than Hierro was then that is a very ignorant state of play.
I only hope you mean that Alonso is twice the player that Fabregas is....

Of course

[emurf]

Zimbabwe :Bruce Grobbelaar

[emurf]

Polish: Dudek

[emurf]

Swis: Stéphane Henchoz

[Mr Jefferson]

Georgian: Zurab Khizanishvili!!

[legend76]

Trinadad & Tobago - Dwight Yorke
Isreal - Ronny Rosenthal
Colombia- Faustino Asprilla
Ukraine - Sergi Rebrov
Mali - Freddi Kanute

[emurf]

Georgian: Zurab Khizanishvili!!

Georgi Kinkladzi would be better

[AmadeusDC]

Trinadad & Tobago - Dwight Yorke
Isreal - Ronny Rosenthal
Colombia- Faustino Asprilla
Ukraine - Sergi Rebrov
Mali - Freddi Kanute

Israel: I think Berkovic and Ben Haim have probably done more in the Premiership at this stage than Rosenthal. Ronny's best days were with Liverpool predominantly in the old First Division.

Colombia: Asprilla had 48 appearences and 9 goals for Newcastle. Angel had 44 in 175 at Aston Villa. No doubt that Asprilla was a better player but is it debatable that he did more in the Premiership than JPA? I'd have to say Angel takes it.

It kinda goes back to the Deschamps and Hierro debate to be honest. Great players no doubt but their impact on the Premiership is debatable.

-AmadeusDC-

[legend76]

Israel: I think Berkovic and Ben Haim have probably done more in the Premiership at this stage than Rosenthal. Ronny's best days were with Liverpool predominantly in the old First Division.

Colombia: Asprilla had 48 appearences and 9 goals for Newcastle. Angel had 44 in 175 at Aston Villa. No doubt that Asprilla was a better player but is it debatable that he did more in the Premiership than JPA? I'd have to say Angel takes it.

It kinda goes back to the Deschamps and Hierro debate to be honest. Great players no doubt but their impact on the Premiership is debatable.

-AmadeusDC-

Deschamps is no where near, the best French player to have graced the Premiership.

p.s. hard luck in the UEFA cup, must be though losing to a team with a girls name

[mirps]

Georgian: Zurab Khizanishvili!!

Surely Ketsbaia?

[The Godfather]

i fancy youssi benayoun to become the best israeli player to play in the premiership...greatr player at west ham dont know what his chances at liverpool will be like...

javier mascherano will become the top argentine

[mirps]

Australian - Cahill? maybe too soon? Couple of others there though. Bosnich, Emerton, Kewell (early days, of course), any others?

[The Godfather]

lucas neill...but he's a fucking tramp...and i dont rate him as highly as some people do

[Who Are You]

Georgian: Zurab Khizanishvili!!

Are people forgetting about Georgi 'Kinky' Kinkladze????


EDIT: Didnt see emurf's post that mentions Kinkladze

[homer jay]

canadian: owen hargreaves

[mirps]

Are people forgetting about Georgi 'Kinky' Kinkladze????

Forgot about him, those fucking Georgians ruled the premiership at one point...

[emurf]

Australian - Cahill? maybe too soon? Couple of others there though. Bosnich, Emerton, Kewell (early days, of course), any others?

Viduka

[Who Are You]

Australian - Cahill? maybe too soon? Couple of others there though. Bosnich, Emerton, Kewell (early days, of course), any others?

Schwarzer has been consistent for M'boro

[AmadeusDC]

The Main Countries supplying Premier League players off the top of my head:
(and my picks without thinking too much about it. My criteria are achievments/impact on the PL)
Ireland: Keane (McGrath wasn't in the PL long enough for my money and no I'm not a huge Keane fan. Dinny wouldbe his biggest competition actually).
England: Shearer with maybe a throw out for Adams and Scholes.
Scotland: God they've been gash during the Premier League era...... no one stands out for me (probably a huge oversight). Anyone?
Wales: Giggs at a canter IMO..... Sparky didn't have the longevity in the EPL that Giggs has.
France: Henry beats out Cantona and Vieria for me. Gallas has been doing it for a while too and Pires had a great spell at Arsenal
Holland:Bergkamp I suppose...... Ruud as well but he only played half as many games. The decider being that when Ruud left United fans weren't gutted, when Bergkamp was finishing up in his mid 30's the Arsenal fans were all demanding one more year! Overmars was lethal as well but there for long enough? Doubt it.
Spain: Fabregas has it over Alonso for me but this one could all change over the next few years with more and more coming over and the fact that Cesc is developing so quickly he might be in for a mega-transfer to his homeland in another year or two.
Portugal: C. Ronaldo...... no real competition in this is there?
Germany: Hamann or Klinsmann I suppose. Klinsmann certainly had the greater impact but only played in just over 1/4 as many games. Probably has to go to Dietmar so or are there any other nominations?
Italy: Zola, no competition.
Sweden: Ljungberg
Norway: Solskjaer I suppose..... Riise for a solid second place
Finland: Hyppia I'd say. Not the player that Litmanen was but a greater impact.
Poland: Dudek???? Doesn't say a lot for Poland so...... surely there was another couple who were eligible!
Czech Republic: Cech has done enough at this stage to pass the likes of Berger and Smicer.
Romania: Dan Petrescu....... is there anyone else to compete really?
Croatia:(I just know I'm going to miss someone here so i won't venture a guess)
USA: Big Brad with Reyna and McBride following him. Clint Dempsey could beat all of these in another couple of years. Thing he's a very good player with a great attitude.
Nigeria: Jay Jay Okacha I presume (perhaps Kanu??)
Cameroon: Lauren. Am I missing others?
South Africa: Lucas Radebe still through longevity with McCarthy definitely taking the title if he stays around for a few more years.
Australia: Mark Viduka
South Korea: Park
Argentina: Heinze I guess........ Crespo could have been alright but he obviously doesn't like it in London.
Brazil: Juninho...... was one of the leagues top players for a few years which puts him ahead of the consistent Gilberto.
Colombia: I think Juan Pablo beats out Tino because he was there so much longer and surpriingly had a better goal ratio too.

Probably missed loads there.............fe el free to call me on any you spot.

-AmadeusDC-

[AmadeusDC]

Zimbabwe :Bruce Grobbelaar

As shite as he was in the "Premiership" it might have to go to Benjani....... I mean when you're soooo bad that people are sure you're matchfixing then you can't be the best surely. :D

-AmadeusDC-

[legend76]

Bulgaria - Berbatov
German - Klinsmann

[DogTheLangerHunter]

Croatia-Davor Suker

[legend76]

Croatia:(I just know I'm going to miss someone here so i won't venture a guess)
-AmadeusDC-


suppose you could hardly say Davor Suker :)

[DogTheLangerHunter]

Is Suker like the only Croation ever to play in the PM?

[afeencalleddan]

Costa Rica: Paolo Wanchope

[afeencalleddan]

Is Suker like the only Croation ever to play in the PM?Bilic played for the 'ammers.

[STEVIEG]

Cameroon-Eric Djemba Djemba
Brazil-Kleberson
Ireland-Miller
Italy-Taibi
France-Prunier or Bellion

[afeencalleddan]

France-PrunierGenius of a player

















































From a Spurs point of view:p

[STEVIEG]

Genius of a player


From a Spurs point of view:p

heh heh heh:)

[Jim Comic]

its a pity mcgraths career hadnt spanned more into the premiership

why? the "premiership" is just a new name for the division one/top flight championship, and a gammy one at that

[Who Are You]

Croatia:(I just know I'm going to miss someone here so i won't venture a guess)

-AmadeusDC-

Bosco Balaban = Quality

[afeencalleddan]

heh heh heh:)I was at that match, at the Paxton Road end of the ground behind the goal Spurs were attacking in the second half. That was some game.

[xvis]

Uruguay - Gustavo Poyet
Peru - Nobby Solano
Trinny & Susannah - Dwight Yorke

[bundyv1]

http://www.forumspile.com/Thread-Crap-MrTCry.jpg

[legend76]

I was at that match, at the Paxton Road end of the ground behind the goal Spurs were attacking in the second half. That was some game.

4-1 , that was the best new year's ever