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Lamps
03-09-2007, 11:38 AM
For the cork county board. We've got three men imo who have the managerial/coaching skills in them to take us to kilkenny's level. O'Grady, Justin, Seanie O Leary. Get them in, whatever it takes asap. Time to be ruthless
For all the good work that was being done in getting two ahead of Kilkenny we pissed the whole thing away and no matter what anyone says and I have no evidence, i firmy believe Frank Murphy is playing a big role in whats going on again. He had Gerald's ear at the crucial point in the Waterford game, it was plain as day to see. One only has to look at what a politics free Killkenny are doing and I'm not talking just about Frank. The captain and selector thing for county champs has cost us at least one all ireland in the last two years. Its tiem to can it.
Kilkenny will be 4 or 5 ahead before we know it. City hurling is dying on its arse at this stage. Where's the promotion of it? Everyone could see the dividends it reaped over the years so why let that just fade away like its doing. Cork need the cuteness of the city players, the JBM's the Charlie Macs, the Ray Cummins's. We just don't have that anymore.
Cork should be ploughing ahead of everyone in both codes. Opinions?
RonnyB
03-09-2007, 11:51 AM
I had a chat with a gentleman on the way home yesterday who was of an older generation than me. We both had the same fears about the lack of talent coming up in Cork. That minor team were as poor as I've seen in the last 10 years or so & were very over-reliant on Clifford (who I think could be a geniune star in the future).
Its just not the result I'm thinking of but the actual skill levels shown. A lack of killer goal which the seniors have shown in recent times has flooded down the grades. Twice Cork players were in prime goal positions, the 1st time a point was taken, the 2nd a handpass into trouble killed the move.
For me the only man to take on this current bunch of players is Justin. O'Leary & O'Grady have already worked with them so a certain amount of loyalty could be shown to players, whereas I'd think Justin would be clinical in selection.
FL4ZGN
03-09-2007, 11:58 AM
For the cork county board. We've got three men imo who have the managerial/coaching skills in them to take us to kilkenny's level. O'Grady, Justin, Seanie O Leary. Get them in, whatever it takes asap. Time to be ruthless
For all the good work that was being done in getting two ahead of Kilkenny we pissed the whole thing away and no matter what anyone says and I have no evidence, i firmy believe Frank Murphy is playing a big role in whats going on again. He had Gerald's ear at the crucial point in the Waterford game, it was plain as day to see. One only has to look at what a politics free Killkenny are doing and I'm not talking just about Frank. The captain and selector thing for county champs has cost us at least one all ireland in the last two years. Its tiem to can it.
Kilkenny will be 4 or 5 ahead before we know it. City hurling is dying on its arse at this stage. Where's the promotion of it? Everyone could see the dividends it reaped over the years so why let that just fade away like its doing. Cork need the cuteness of the city players, the JBM's the Charlie Macs, the Ray Cummins's. We just don't have that anymore.
Cork should be ploughing ahead of everyone in both codes. Opinions?
The best team in the championship should be ploughing ahead of everyone in both codes.
Lamps
03-09-2007, 11:58 AM
I had a chat with a gentleman on the way home yesterday who was of an older generation than me. We both had the same fears about the lack of talent coming up in Cork. That minor team were as poor as I've seen in the last 10 years or so & were very over-reliant on Clifford (who I think could be a geniune star in the future).
Its just not the result I'm thinking of but the actual skill levels shown. A lack of killer goal which the seniors have shown in recent times has flooded down the grades. Twice Cork players were in prime goal positions, the 1st time a point was taken, the 2nd a handpass into trouble killed the move.
For me the only man to take on this current bunch of players is Justin. O'Leary & O'Grady have already worked with them so a certain amount of loyalty could be shown to players, whereas I'd think Justin would be clinical in selection.
If its skills that need honing, then Justin is the man to get a 10 to 15% improvement. But it comes back to the question of politics, I think the county board would rather Kilkenny won 5 more all irelands than see him back in power, and in the impossible situation where he did get back he probably have the daggers out for him from the first day
Lamps
03-09-2007, 12:00 PM
The best team in the championship should be ploughing ahead of everyone in both codes.
And that should be cork
the puerto rican feen
03-09-2007, 12:00 PM
For the cork county board. We've got three men imo who have the managerial/coaching skills in them to take us to kilkenny's level. O'Grady, Justin, Seanie O Leary. Get them in, whatever it takes asap. Time to be ruthless
For all the good work that was being done in getting two ahead of Kilkenny we pissed the whole thing away and no matter what anyone says and I have no evidence, i firmy believe Frank Murphy is playing a big role in whats going on again. He had Gerald's ear at the crucial point in the Waterford game, it was plain as day to see. One only has to look at what a politics free Killkenny are doing and I'm not talking just about Frank. The captain and selector thing for county champs has cost us at least one all ireland in the last two years. Its tiem to can it.
Kilkenny will be 4 or 5 ahead before we know it. City hurling is dying on its arse at this stage. Where's the promotion of it? Everyone could see the dividends it reaped over the years so why let that just fade away like its doing. Cork need the cuteness of the city players, the JBM's the Charlie Macs, the Ray Cummins's. We just don't have that anymore.
Cork should be ploughing ahead of everyone in both codes. Opinions?
Justin McCarthy has had a few "run-ins" with Frank Murphy and while Frank is at the helm, I couldn't see him working with the cork hurling team in any capacity.
But, stranger things have happened.
Rebelred
03-09-2007, 12:26 PM
We all know here Justin has zero chance of being offered the Cork job under the current board, which is an absolute shame.
I actually think we had a far better Minor team last year, but players were played out of position and we lost an All Ireland because of it.
Even our u21's, if any more than 4 or 5 of them make it through to be regular Senior players, I'd be surprised.
Demons till I die
03-09-2007, 12:26 PM
AS I'M TYPING THIS I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH LAMPS FOR ONCE.
frank Murphy has far too much power and interfering in team affairs during games is just not fucking well on. Could you imagine someone doing that to Brian Cody...no me neither. Justin mcCarthy has done a great job with Waterford and could very well be the man, but its maybe a bit easier to do a great job with a county who are happy to be in the munster final once every 20 years as opposed to working with a county who demand to be in the All ireland Final every year .
3pointplay
03-09-2007, 12:30 PM
AS I'M TYPING THIS I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH LAMPS FOR ONCE.
frank Murphy has far too much power and interfering in team affairs during games is just not fucking well on. Could you imagine someone doing that to Brian Cody...no me neither. Justin mcCarthy has done a great job with Waterford and could very well be the man, but its maybe a bit easier to do a great job with a county who are happy to be in the munster final once every 20 years as opposed to working with a county who demand to be in the All ireland Final every year .
On the ball DTID.
redrebel
03-09-2007, 12:54 PM
Kilkenny will be 4 or 5 ahead before we know it. City hurling is dying on its arse at this stage. Where's the promotion of it? Everyone could see the dividends it reaped over the years so why let that just fade away like its doing. Cork need the cuteness of the city players, the JBM's the Charlie Macs, the Ray Cummins's. We just don't have that anymore.
Cork should be ploughing ahead of everyone in both codes. Opinions?
Your right KK by the looks of it, will be hard to stop for a few years.. but if we follow their example, and let the manager and selectors run the show without interference from FM, we could try new styles of play i.e learn a pressure game in defence and continue our running game in Midfield and up front. And as you pointed out in another post convince Setanta his county needs him... he brought a real quality and option to our attack. Hopefully Niall McCarthy can have an injury free year next year.
Hurling has become less influenced by the City clubs and is more dominated by east cork clubs.
RonnyB
03-09-2007, 12:54 PM
AS I'M TYPING THIS I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH LAMPS FOR ONCE.
frank Murphy has far too much power and interfering in team affairs during games is just not fucking well on. Could you imagine someone doing that to Brian Cody...no me neither. Justin mcCarthy has done a great job with Waterford and could very well be the man, but its maybe a bit easier to do a great job with a county who are happy to be in the munster final once every 20 years as opposed to working with a county who demand to be in the All ireland Final every year .
Waterford though man for man against the current Cork panel are a little weaker IMO. If you were to pick a Waterford/Cork team Cork would have least 9 players on it. (I dont want this thread to turn into such a debate though)
Cork have more players to choose from than Waterford do. Its a simple logic because we are a bigger county. I think Justin at the helm would remove any certainty among certain players over their position. Too many I feel arent afraid of being dropped. Battling for places would lead to better performances.
Demons till I die
03-09-2007, 12:59 PM
Waterford though man for man against the current Cork panel are a little weaker IMO. If you were to pick a Waterford/Cork team Cork would have least 9 players on it. (I dont want this thread to turn into such a debate though)
Cork have more players to choose from than Waterford do. Its a simple logic because we are a bigger county. I think Justin at the helm would remove any certainty among certain players over their position. Too many I feel arent afraid of being dropped. Battling for places would lead to better performances.
I Agree with ya there , I heard a fella once say that it was harder to get off the Cork Hurling team than it was to get on it , he may be right
mirps
03-09-2007, 01:04 PM
Waterford though man for man against the current Cork panel are a little weaker IMO. If you were to pick a Waterford/Cork team Cork would have least 9 players on it. (I dont want this thread to turn into such a debate though)
Cork have more players to choose from than Waterford do. Its a simple logic because we are a bigger county. I think Justin at the helm would remove any certainty among certain players over their position. Too many I feel arent afraid of being dropped. Battling for places would lead to better performances.
You're probably right. Don't know is it that simple though. Cork have good representation in all sports and west cork is all football.
Anybody know many hurling clubs there are in each county?
Lamps
03-09-2007, 01:06 PM
Waterford though man for man against the current Cork panel are a little weaker IMO. If you were to pick a Waterford/Cork team Cork would have least 9 players on it. (I dont want this thread to turn into such a debate though)
Cork have more players to choose from than Waterford do. Its a simple logic because we are a bigger county. I think Justin at the helm would remove any certainty among certain players over their position. Too many I feel arent afraid of being dropped. Battling for places would lead to better performances.
Justin has the Wateford mentality to deal with down there and that can't be stressed enough. With Cork he'd be taking on men who have done it before but need freshening up. As he said in his book, and apolgies for always going on about it, only Ger Cunningham ever reached his potential as a player, that line just always fills me with hope. Even some of the great like Ray Cummins he says had poor technique and could have been 25 better if he had worked it out with him. He may even be able to sort out the Hero ;)
Lamps
03-09-2007, 01:10 PM
You're probably right. Don't know is it that simple though. Cork have good representation in all sports and west cork is all football.
Anybody know many hurling clubs there are in each county?
This brings me to point number two, its time for the GAA to start thowing their weight around and by that I mean at the expense of Soccer, Rugby and everything else. Now admitteldy most rugger jocks wouldn't have the skills but lest we forget Tomas O Leary; and Setanta and someone told me Liam Kearney though i don't remember him all playing on the same Cork minor team as the other two. Its time to stop this dilution. We can rule GAA as it should be or be middle of the road at everything.
Its time to stamp out the competition
KolaKubes
03-09-2007, 01:11 PM
I think Galway with Joe Canning in tow will be a very serious threat to Kilkenny.
Cork need to find a couple of Timmy Mac forwards but (with all due respect to Timmy) who have the skills to go with their work rate.
We also need to look into building up a media campaign about the amount of high challenges and cynical, systematic fouling going on in hurling this year.
Kilkenny are the worst culprits. Even against a shower of gurriers like Limerick, they committed three times more fouls was it?
Incredible amount of it goes on in their half-forward line as well where they know that even if they get pulled for it, the resultant free-kick is likely to be put wide. They're going up with the half back where winning the ball is secondary to stopping him winning it. Kilkenny pick up a lot of handy scores from the scrappy play which ensues from this tactic. It was devastating against Cork last year and, frankly, I'd like to think that given another 12 months of blathering in the club bars of Cork city, someone might cop on that this needs to be tackled for next year.
Get it publicised and get a greater awareness of this as a tactic Kilkenny are employing and, in parallel, look to change our own tactics to allow for it. It works because Kilkenny get the extra man there to take advantage and we're relying on our lad winning ball when he hasn't a hope with his man purely going out to foul him and put him off. Get more Cork bodies in around the dropping ball and be willing to copy the tactic if needs be. I'm sure Niall Mc would be up for it with O'Connor and Cronin feeding off his spade work.
KolaKubes
03-09-2007, 01:14 PM
This brings me to point number two, its time for the GAA to start thowing their weight around and by that I mean at the expense of Soccer, Rugby and everything else. Now admitteldy most rugger jocks wouldn't have the skills but lest we forget Tomas O Leary; and Setanta and someone told me Liam Kearney though i don't remember him all playing on the same Cork minor team as the other two. Its time to stop this dilution. We can rule GAA as it should be or be middle of the road at everything.
Its time to stamp out the competition
The city isn't losing hurlers to soccer Lamps.
I'm also intrigued by your theory that city players are "cuter".
Perhaps that's true but, unfortunately, for the moment they also appear to be not capable of making the grade as hurlers, plain and simple.
Lamps
03-09-2007, 01:14 PM
We also need to look into building up a media campaign about the amount of high challenges and cynical, systematic fouling going on in hurling this year.
Kilkenny are the worst culprits. Even against a shower of gurriers like Limerick, they committed three times more fouls was it?
I've no interest in a feud today as I'm in sorting out the state of Cork hurling mode, but "whining to the media" as a way of stopping Kilkenny is the stupidest thing I've heard today.
KolaKubes
03-09-2007, 01:16 PM
I've no interest in a feud today as I'm in sorting out the state of Cork hurling mode, but "whining to the media" as a way of stopping Kilkenny is the stupidest thing I've heard today.
Fair enough but I think the media campaign surrounding the suspension of the three Cork lads certainly helped our rivals this year.
Underhand, perhaps, stupid, certainly not.
3pointplay
03-09-2007, 01:17 PM
This brings me to point number two, its time for the GAA to start thowing their weight around and by that I mean at the expense of Soccer, Rugby and everything else. Now admitteldy most rugger jocks wouldn't have the skills but lest we forget Tomas O Leary; and Setanta and someone told me Liam Kearney though i don't remember him all playing on the same Cork minor team as the other two. Its time to stop this dilution. We can rule GAA as it should be or be middle of the road at everything.
Its time to stamp out the competition
The cork city hurling clubs are doing that as it is, One parklands based club informed a 10 year old he had a choice basketball or hurling why cant he do both like?
Lamps
03-09-2007, 01:17 PM
The city isn't losing hurlers to soccer Lamps.
I'm also intrigued by your theory that city players are "cuter".
Perhaps that's true but, unfortunately, for the moment they also appear to be not capable of making the grade as hurlers, plain and simple.
City hurling is not in a good way and for that matter East Cork for all its success doesn't look too hot to me either. Cloyne always strike me as lacking the very cuteness i was on about. But its something I won't be able to prove or disprove.
The City is losing hurlers to everything by the looks of it.
Lamps
03-09-2007, 01:20 PM
The cork city hurling clubs are doing that as it is, One parklands based club informed a 10 year old he had a choice basketball or hurling why cant he do both like?
Piarsaighs are the shining light in that area of the city, the work they do couldn't have a price put on it. If they are laying the law down like that then i salute them for it. And they've been producing players for Cork as well unlike their near neighbours despite arguably less underage success. Whatever they're doing is working
KolaKubes
03-09-2007, 01:22 PM
City hurling is not in a good way and for that matter East Cork for all its success doesn't look too hot to me either. Cloyne always strike me as lacking the very cuteness i was on about. But its something I won't be able to prove or disprove.
The City is losing hurlers to everything by the looks of it.
Cork have a very different set-up to any other hurling county.
The nature of the beast is that no club is going to provide more than about three players (fuckwit parochial selectors not withstanding). We've what, 450,000 people quite spread out around the county so that's what you'll expect.
The downside of this is that four or five fellas from the same club who know each other inside out can be a boon to an intercounty squad so Cork might need to work more on ensuring the best squad of 30 get on the park for training come January (something Morgan has done really well with the footballers, in all fairness) and getting them to gel together thereafter.
3pointplay
03-09-2007, 01:28 PM
Piarsaighs are the shining light in that area of the city, the work they do couldn't have a price put on it. If they are laying the law down like that then i salute them for it. And they've been producing players for Cork as well unlike their near neighbours despite arguably less underage success. Whatever they're doing is working
Still not right for a 10 year old to hear that, As kids the more sports they play the better when they hit about 16 ask them about it then maybe, but it is shit like that with the GAA that pisses me of.:(
Lamps
03-09-2007, 01:39 PM
Still not right for a 10 year old to hear that, As kids the more sports they play the better when they hit about 16 ask them about it then maybe, but it is shit like that with the GAA that pisses me of.:(
You see the problem is, in Kilkenny the young fella probably wouldn't want to do anything else, let alone be given the choice. Tommy, Henry and DJ are his hero's and they all grow up with hurleys, i'd imagine premiershit marketing and munstershire bullshit doesn't go down too well up there, maybe its does, no cats around to tell us.
The GAA is being too lenient in my book. Time to crack down
KolaKubes
03-09-2007, 01:42 PM
If the GAA is serious about losing talented youngsters from hurling they should start by cracking down on this Gaelic football bollocks.
Actin The Sham
03-09-2007, 01:44 PM
I think Galway with Joe Canning in tow will be a very serious threat to Kilkenny.
Cork need to find a couple of Timmy Mac forwards but (with all due respect to Timmy) who have the skills to go with their work rate.
We also need to look into building up a media campaign about the amount of high challenges and cynical, systematic fouling going on in hurling this year.
Kilkenny are the worst culprits. Even against a shower of gurriers like Limerick, they committed three times more fouls was it?
Incredible amount of it goes on in their half-forward line as well where they know that even if they get pulled for it, the resultant free-kick is likely to be put wide. They're going up with the half back where winning the ball is secondary to stopping him winning it. Kilkenny pick up a lot of handy scores from the scrappy play which ensues from this tactic. It was devastating against Cork last year and, frankly, I'd like to think that given another 12 months of blathering in the club bars of Cork city, someone might cop on that this needs to be tackled for next year.
Get it publicised and get a greater awareness of this as a tactic Kilkenny are employing and, in parallel, look to change our own tactics to allow for it. It works because Kilkenny get the extra man there to take advantage and we're relying on our lad winning ball when he hasn't a hope with his man purely going out to foul him and put him off. Get more Cork bodies in around the dropping ball and be willing to copy the tactic if needs be. I'm sure Niall Mc would be up for it with O'Connor and Cronin feeding off his spade work.
Free kick?
WTF??
Rebelred
03-09-2007, 01:44 PM
Incredible amount of it goes on in their half-forward line as well where they know that even if they get pulled for it, the resultant free-kick is likely to be put wide. They're going up with the half back where winning the ball is secondary to stopping him winning it. Kilkenny pick up a lot of handy scores from the scrappy play which ensues from this tactic. It was devastating against Cork last year and, frankly, I'd like to think that given another 12 months of blathering in the club bars of Cork city, someone might cop on that this needs to be tackled for next year.
Kola, Kilkenny destroyed Limericks half back line in the first half,and while they were going in hard,I thought the ref gave Limerick a number of soft frees in that area. The trio of Shefflin,Larkin and Brennan scored 2-9 in the first half, 2-9! Our half forward line wouldn't score 2-9 in a summer for ya.
RonnyB
03-09-2007, 02:03 PM
Kola, Kilkenny destroyed Limericks half back line in the first half,and while they were going in hard,I thought the ref gave Limerick a number of soft frees in that area. The trio of Shefflin,Larkin and Brennan scored 2-9 in the first half, 2-9! Our half forward line wouldn't score 2-9 in a summer for ya.
Rebel both Brennan & Henry were in the full forward line for the 1st 15 mins yesterday. It was Hickey who was in big trouble. I thought Foley had a very good game for Limerick as it happens. Lawlor was in trouble alright though.
FL4ZGN
03-09-2007, 02:05 PM
And that should be cork
Why?
They dont have a devine right to win anything.
KolaKubes
03-09-2007, 02:12 PM
Free kick?
WTF??
Ah come off it. :rolleyes:
KolaKubes
03-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Why?
They dont have a devine right to win anything.
Lamps perfectly sums up how the natural Cork confidence can veer into groundless arrogance.
mirps
03-09-2007, 02:35 PM
This brings me to point number two, its time for the GAA to start thowing their weight around and by that I mean at the expense of Soccer, Rugby and everything else. Now admitteldy most rugger jocks wouldn't have the skills but lest we forget Tomas O Leary; and Setanta and someone told me Liam Kearney though i don't remember him all playing on the same Cork minor team as the other two. Its time to stop this dilution. We can rule GAA as it should be or be middle of the road at everything.
Its time to stamp out the competition
You better hope Ireland don't have a successful World Cup, there'll be oval balls all over the place...
Lamps
03-09-2007, 02:59 PM
You better hope Ireland don't have a successful World Cup, there'll be oval balls all over the place...
I hope they fail to get out of the group
Lamps
03-09-2007, 03:19 PM
Lamps perfectly sums up how the natural Cork confidence can veer into groundless arrogance.
Spare me the psychobabble beboboy, look at the numbers.
Population of apprx 480 thousand in the top GAA county in the land. Probably 2/3 of which is rural. The perfect mix if you ask me.
I think there are over 200 clubs.
Look at what Billy has done bringing in players from the juniors. Cork have a heck of a lot of untapped potential and future potential and the county board seem to think everything will work out just cos we're cork, now thats arrogance.
What I suggested was making use of our greatest resourse. Don't mix that up simple lad
Lamps
03-09-2007, 03:20 PM
Ah come off it. :rolleyes:
soccer has you addled, was sheflin reminding you of van basten again?
RonnyB
03-09-2007, 04:50 PM
Right here are the players who havent been regular starters that can make the step up to Senior standard.
Anthony Nash - Kanturk
Eoin Cadogen - Douglas (where does his heart lie though? Football or hurling?)
Paudi O'Sullivan - Cloyne
Cathal Naughton - Newtownshandrum
Leigh Desmond - Youghal
Maybe Ronan Conway too. For me Kevin Canty & Eoghan Murphy werent good enough for the senior panel at all this year. Add in other young fellas like O'Neill, Cronin, Gardiner, Fraggy, Brian Murphy (all these guys are under 25) and theres plenty of hope. But they need the right coaching. Theres about 100 very talented hurlers in the county but thats not enough. Some need a guy like O'Grady or Justin to find the thing thats brings them from talented to effective to good to great.
Lamps
03-09-2007, 04:56 PM
Right here are the players who havent been regular starters that can make the step up to Senior standard.
Anthony Nash - Kanturk
Eoin Cadogen - Douglas (where does his heart lie though? Football or hurling?)
Paudi O'Sullivan - Cloyne
Cathal Naughton - Newtownshandrum
Leigh Desmond - Youghal
Maybe Ronan Conway too. For me Kevin Canty & Eoghan Murphy werent good enough for the senior panel at all this year. Add in other young fellas like O'Neill, Cronin, Gardiner, Fraggy, Brian Murphy (all these guys are under 25) and theres plenty of hope. But they need the right coaching. Theres about 100 very talented hurlers in the county but thats not enough. Some need a guy like O'Grady or Justin to find the thing thats brings them from talented to effective to good to great.
agreed
there will always be talent beacuse of our size but we are clearly not exploiting it like others can, the cork way has been to select the best 15 and shure let them at it. its not good enough anymore BUT thats exactly what we are going back to. we need to get a good coach in, with his own selectors and leave him have 4 or 5 years. we need to start promoting the games in the city as well
KolaKubes
03-09-2007, 08:12 PM
Loughnane agrees with me seemingly and that knacker Cody is RATTLED.
Six months of this now and the "purists" favourites will be EXPOSED for the gurriers they really are.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2007/0903/kilkenny.html?gaa
KolaKubes
03-09-2007, 08:44 PM
Fuck sake, fellating of Kilkenny going on on Newstalk at the moment.
"They're big strong and physical" :rolleyes:
"They smothered the game Cork tried to play last year"
"They play ball and they play hard"
"They can only play what's put in front of them"
KolaKubes
10-09-2007, 02:48 PM
Like it or not Lamps, the meejah campaign against the cats is starting.
Tommy Conlon giving it loads yesterday in the Sindo regarding Eddie Brennan's gurrier use of the butt of the hurley.
Surely you must see that this kind of shite has to be stamped out by any means necessary?
Difference between tough play and dirty play is getting forgotten.
Lamps
10-09-2007, 02:53 PM
Like it or not Lamps, the meejah campaign against the cats is starting.
Tommy Conlon giving it loads yesterday in the Sindo regarding Eddie Brennan's gurrier use of the butt of the hurley.
Surely you must see that this kind of shite has to be stamped out by any means necessary?
Difference between tough play and dirty play is getting forgotten.
Don't buy that rag but also heard Eamon Sweeney was gushing about them and Cody. If Cork need a media campaign to help them beat Kilkenny then thats the saddest thing i've heard today and consider if you will, the day thats in it
KolaKubes
10-09-2007, 02:59 PM
Don't buy that rag but also heard Eamon Sweeney was gushing about them and Cody. If Cork need a media campaign to help them beat Kilkenny then thats the saddest thing i've heard today and consider if you will, the day thats in it
Well Lamps, it's like this, if you don't see anything wrong with the shit Kilkenny are pulling, fair enough.
But then the only way to match Kilkenny will be to copy them.
Cork taking that sort of cynical, dirty approach would be a sad day.
I think drumming up awareness of what they're up to is perfectly acceptable and hopefully (starting with the league next year) they'll be getting yellow and red cards dished out to them for it.
No place for that sort of bollocks on a hurling field. Leave it to the rugby boys.
Lamps
10-09-2007, 03:09 PM
Well Lamps, it's like this, if you don't see anything wrong with the shit Kilkenny are pulling, fair enough.
But then the only way to match Kilkenny will be to copy them.
Cork taking that sort of cynical, dirty approach would be a sad day.
I think drumming up awareness of what they're up to is perfectly acceptable and hopefully (starting with the league next year) they'll be getting yellow and red cards dished out to them for it.
No place for that sort of bollocks on a hurling field. Leave it to the rugby boys.
assume you missed Sully giving Comerford the butt of the hurley in the back on more than one occasion in 2004.
we should be able to meet fire with fire if thats the way they want it, not go crying to the papers. leave that to shanahan
KolaKubes
10-09-2007, 03:10 PM
assume you missed Sully giving Comerford the butt of the hurley in the back on more than one occasion in 2004.
we should be able to meet fire with fire if thats the way they want it, not go crying to the papers. leave that to shanahan
Fair enough, we'll beg to differ on that one.
Rather see it stamped out myself.
Edit: By the way, you realise what Kilkenny are up to is trying to inflict facial injuries on people? Bit different to a few digs. I may even have been guilty of that myself over the years.
Lamps
10-09-2007, 03:13 PM
Fair enough, we'll beg to differ on that one.
Rather see it stamped out myself.
sully
hurley
butt
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A foul is a foul, its up the officials to do the rest
KolaKubes
10-09-2007, 03:19 PM
sully
hurley
butt
of ??
A foul is a foul, its up the officials to do the rest
But sure that's all I'm looking for.
There is no reason for a fella to be challenging head high and a fella soloing towards him.
That sort of thing is just nasty, cynical and frankly exhibits a callous disregard for fellow amateur sportsmen.
It should be an automatic yellow, followed by a red.
Only way to stamp it out.
Notable that it was Cody who was getting his knickers in a twist the last time the GAA tried to insist on enforcing their own rules.
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