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toes
09-07-2007, 01:07 PM
their attacking players: giggs, scholes, ronaldo, rooney, saha, smith, solskjaer, nani, anderson, tevez. rossi.

for barca's: xavi, iniesta, ronaldinho, messi, deco, henry, guily, gudjohnson, eto'o .

well?

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 01:11 PM
their attacking players: giggs, scholes, ronaldo, rooney, saha, smith, solskjaer, nani, anderson, tevez. rossi.

for barca's: xavi, iniesta, ronaldinho, messi, deco, henry, guily, gudjohnson, eto'o .

well?

No

Edmund Blackwater
09-07-2007, 01:12 PM
I can field this one: They'll all say no.
Reason: Most know little about football. Others are too blinkered. The rest believe the hype.

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 01:14 PM
Tevez isn't a United player

These comparison arguments ultimately get nowhere

I'd defo swap Smith for Eto though all the same:)

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 01:15 PM
giggs, scholes, ronaldo, rooney and Tevez would all get in the Barcelona team.

Edmund Blackwater
09-07-2007, 01:16 PM
giggs, scholes, ronaldo, rooney and Tevez would all get in the Barcelona team.
Ahead of who?

Rebel Yell
09-07-2007, 01:16 PM
Some of them yes....I'd take Henry and Messi certainly, but sure, we don't know yet how well Anderson and Nani adapt to life in the premiership...ask again next summer...

ho chi feen
09-07-2007, 01:16 PM
Tevez doesn't play for United.

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 01:18 PM
Ahead of who?

xavi, iniesta, ronaldinho, messi, deco, henry, guily, gudjohnson, eto'o

Edmund Blackwater
09-07-2007, 01:20 PM
xavi, iniesta, ronaldinho, messi, deco, henry, guily, gudjohnson, eto'o
Scholes or Deco?
Deco.

Ronaldinho or Giggs?
Ronaldinho

Wrongaldo or Messi?
messi.

Rooney or Eto'o?
Eto'o.

Simple really.

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 01:21 PM
http://i17.tinypic.com/4pxjuq8.jpg

Roman Abramovich
09-07-2007, 01:23 PM
Ronaldo - Xavi - Scholes - Ronaldinho
-------Rooney-----Henry-----------

For me this would be a combo all things being equal and one game only.
Anyone picking scholes instead of iniesta longterm would be nuts.
maybe even eto instead of henry long term

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 01:25 PM
Gudjonsen Richardson Guily Dong Eagles

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 01:25 PM
Scholes or Deco?
Deco.

Ronaldinho or Giggs?
Ronaldinho

Wrongaldo or Messi?
messi.

Rooney or Eto'o?
Eto'o.

Simple really.

Rio/Puyol

Rio

Vidic/Marques

Vidic

Neville/Oliguer

Neville

The Wizzard/Rikard

Wizzard

Nou Camp shop/Old Trafford Megastore

OTM

Barcelona Paela/Manchester Mushy Peas N Chip

Manchester MPNC

Manchester City/Espanyol

Espanyol

My cock/Your cock

My dads cock

afeencalleddan
09-07-2007, 01:25 PM
Ronaldo - Xavi - Scholes - Ronaldinho
-------Rooney-----Henry-----------

For me this would be a combo all things being equal and one game only.
Anyone picking scholes instead of iniesta longterm would be nuts.
maybe even eto instead of henry long term:confused:

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 01:26 PM
:confused:

I know, i would have had Richardson in there too

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 01:26 PM
My cock/Your cock

My dads cock

:):):):)

afeencalleddan
09-07-2007, 01:28 PM
I know, i would have had Richardson in there tooSomebody must have broken into Naff's PRoC account.

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 01:29 PM
Tevez Signs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!






















































http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6066/tevezsignsbb1.jpg

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 01:31 PM
--------------VDS--------------
Neville - Vidic - Ferdinand - Zambrotta

------------Hargreaves--------------

Ronaldo ----- Deco ----- Lionel Messi

------------Ronaldinho-------------

-------------Eto'o-----------------

Roman Abramovich
09-07-2007, 01:31 PM
Somebody must have broken into Naff's PRoC account.

ronaldinho or giggs?
thats my choice. why pick giggs? would do nothing to justify it.
If i was being honest i did have henry out there and eto up front but sticking to currentish formations

Roman Abramovich
09-07-2007, 01:32 PM
--------------VDS--------------
Neville - Vidic - Ferdinand - Zambrotta

------------Hargreaves--------------

Ronaldo ----- Deco ----- Lionel Messi

------------Ronaldinho-------------

-------------Eto'o-----------------

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STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 01:33 PM
I'd drop Henry, Rooney and Eto and play Victor Valdez upfront with John o'Shea in goal

Edmund Blackwater
09-07-2007, 01:33 PM
Rio/Puyol

Rio

Vidic/Marques

Vidic

Neville/Oliguer

Neville

The Wizzard/Rikard

Wizzard

Nou Camp shop/Old Trafford Megastore

OTM

Barcelona Paela/Manchester Mushy Peas N Chip

Manchester MPNC

Manchester City/Espanyol

Espanyol

My cock/Your cock

My dads cock
a) read the question posed.
b)you know nothing about soccer.

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 01:38 PM
a) read the question posed.
b)you know nothing about soccer.

What are you a yank?

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09-07-2007, 01:39 PM
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Is there a better holding midfielder at either United or Barca ?

afeencalleddan
09-07-2007, 01:41 PM
giggs, scholes, ronaldo, rooney and Tevez would all get in the Barcelona team.

--------------VDS--------------
Neville - Vidic - Ferdinand - Zambrotta

------------Hargreaves--------------

Ronaldo ----- Deco ----- Lionel Messi

------------Ronaldinho-------------

-------------Eto'o-----------------Something doesn't add up here.

ho chi feen
09-07-2007, 01:43 PM
Is there a better holding midfielder at either United or Barca ?

Alan Smith.

Edmund Blackwater
09-07-2007, 01:44 PM
What are you a yank?
why are you a tool?

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 01:44 PM
their attacking players: giggs, scholes, ronaldo, rooney, saha, smith, solskjaer, nani, anderson, tevez. rossi.

for barca's: xavi, iniesta, ronaldinho, messi, deco, henry, guily, gudjohnson, eto'o .

well?

An odd selection of players there, surely Xavi, Iniesta and Scholes are midfielders.

Anyway.

On the whole, no. Barcelona's is the more proven but Utd's the more promising in the medium term.

They also will only be able to field about four of those at a time so more negative sides like Liverpool, Chelsea and, well, everyone, will be able to compete on their day. ;)

toes
09-07-2007, 01:51 PM
An odd selection of players there, surely Xavi, Iniesta and Scholes are midfielders.



midfielders who look to attack. as opposed to hargreaves, fletcher, van bommel, edmilson, etc.

homer jay
09-07-2007, 01:53 PM
Something doesn't add up here.

:)

Forsberg
09-07-2007, 01:53 PM
A thread about the merits of Utds attacking prowess and nobldy has yet mentioned Jermaine Pennant , Mark Gonzalez or Harry Kewelll.

Mockery

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 01:56 PM
Mockery

It's gonna be a long July!

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 01:57 PM
why are you a tool?

I'm a hatchet

What are you a claw hammer is it?

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 02:15 PM
There could be a few more complications regarding the Tevez deal





Tevez Capture Shock

This morning, Carlos Tevez was captured by.....sea pirates, as opposed to the land ones.

The on-going transfer saga between Tevez, Manchester United and West Ham, has led to the kidnapping of Tevez through pirates. Through our sources, the kidnapping took place early morning on the 9th of July. It is believed Carlos Tevez was washing his clothes in the sea, a strange thing to do in itself, when the pirates sensationally docked onto the beach and forced him onto their ship.

Police forces and Coast Guards have united their attempts to find Tevez. West Ham have released a statement to the pirates arguing that he is still their player, the premier league have supported these claims and their spokesman added,
"The Premier League scrutinised that capture but did not insist on West Ham receiving any of the money from that deal."

They have assured as that the pirates are unable to take Tevez, unless the money goes straight to West Ham. The statement itself caused an uproar among Human Rights activists who argue that Tevez's kidnapping should be above 'transfer' rights at this moment. However, A Premier League statement said: "Our position remains the same. Any deal for the transfer of Carlos Tevez has to be struck directly with West Ham United and we support West Ham United in asserting their rights over their player."

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 02:50 PM
midfielders who look to attack. as opposed to hargreaves, fletcher, van bommel, edmilson, etc.

Aha, fair enough.

For all their wealth of attacking talent, both sides would be well-advised to take note of who featured in the final. You need the water carriers as well. Eric was wrong.

AmadeusDC
09-07-2007, 03:13 PM
midfielders who look to attack. as opposed to hargreaves, fletcher, van bommel, edmilson, etc.

What have Bayern Munich got to do with this? ;)

-AmadeusDC-

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 03:24 PM
What have Bayern Munich got to do with this? ;)

-AmadeusDC-

I also spotted that but left it go.

homer jay
09-07-2007, 03:41 PM
I also spotted that but left it go.

heh heh. yeah right!

toes
09-07-2007, 03:53 PM
just testing yiz.

lionelhutz
09-07-2007, 04:30 PM
Is there a better holding midfielder at either United or Barca ?

marquez, edmilson, motta (dunno if he left or not?). xavi if he's told to stay put in the middle. not saying their all great holding players, but better than the canadian

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 04:32 PM
marquez, edmilson, motta (dunno if he left or not?). xavi if he's told to stay put in the middle. not saying their all great holding players, but better than the canadian

Depends what you mean by a "holding midfielder".

Most of the above would be eaten alive in the Premiership.

That's not to say they're not very good players but it's a different sort of challenge.

Roman Abramovich
09-07-2007, 04:35 PM
Depends what you mean by a "holding midfielder".

Most of the above would be eaten alive in the Premiership.

That's not to say they're not very good players but it's a different sort of challenge.

edmilson eaten alive?
are you a total wum

Up For The Ba
09-07-2007, 04:37 PM
marquez, edmilson, motta (dunno if he left or not?). xavi if he's told to stay put in the middle. not saying their all great holding players, but better than the canadian

No they`re not, especially Motta, he`s very hit and miss. You cant really say Xavi is a holding player but he is superb and would be a must.

I`m bored so here`s my team if it were up to me....

.................... ........ ..1: Van Der Sar

2: Zambrotta........ 4: Ferdinand........... .5: Vidic............3: Evra

7: Messi............... ..8: Xavi..............6: Iniesta...........11 : Ronaldinho

.................... ............9: Eto'o........10: Henry


Lots of borderline decisions there really, Ronaldo and Rooney would push for a place, if Scholes was younger so would he.

lionelhutz
09-07-2007, 04:45 PM
No they`re not, especially Motta, he`s very hit and miss. You cant really say Xavi is a holding player but he is superb and would be a must.

I`m bored so here`s my team if it were up to me....

.................... ........ ..1: Van Der Sar

2: Zambrotta........ 4: Ferdinand........... .5: Vidic............3: Evra

7: Messi............... ..8: Xavi..............6: Iniesta...........11 : Ronaldinho

.................... ............9: Eto'o........10: Henry


Lots of borderline decisions there really, Ronaldo and Rooney would push for a place, if Scholes was younger so would he.

if motta is hit and miss what do you call hargreaves? id agree with most of that selection but would probably have puyol instead of snoop and possibly rooney instead of ronaldinho. funny enough id have silvinho ahead of any left backs at either club but cannot pick him because he hasn't really played

lionelhutz
09-07-2007, 04:48 PM
Depends what you mean by a "holding midfielder".
.

kinda like sean og o haplin, except without hurleys or helmets.

eaten alive my hole. will you ever learn, you've admitted that you don't really watch football so why do you keep trying?

















for the anal police i know sean og is not a midfielder

ho chi feen
09-07-2007, 04:57 PM
This is a very tough call in some areas. Piss easy in others.

Guess 4-2-3-1 is the way to go.

...................V DS

NEVILLE - VIDIC - PUYOL - EVRA

.......HARGREAVES - XAVI

RONALDO - RONALDINHO - MESSI

..................ET O'O

Or, in a 4-4-2:


Back 5 as above,

RONALDO - XAVI - RONALDINHO - MESSI

...............ETO'O - HENRY

That midfield (in the 4-4-2), whilst extremely talented, is a bit suspect. The problem is, it's impossible to leave any one of Ronaldo, Messi and Ronaldinho out; nigh on the same for Xavi. You could make a case for Rio in place of either of the centre back pairing- his pace would mask the flaws apparent in both Vidic and Marquez's games.

Up For The Ba
09-07-2007, 04:59 PM
if motta is hit and miss what do you call hargreaves? id agree with most of that selection but would probably have puyol instead of snoop and possibly rooney instead of ronaldinho. funny enough id have silvinho ahead of any left backs at either club but cannot pick him because he hasn't really played

The jury is out on hargreaves but I think he has been vastly underestimated as a player to be honest....time will tell.

Neither Rooney or Ronaldinho would be in form so thats debatable.... as for Puyol.... he has vastly regressed as a player IMO, definitly wouldnt have him in the team. I lost count at how many times he was badly exposed last year... I`m waiting for all the Ferdinand haters to jump all over that comment but I think its pretty obvious that Puyol isnt the player he once was.

As for left backs, Abidal is a class ect too, I assume this is where he`ll play for them next year. On form though Evra was superb last year and gets the nod for me.

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 05:03 PM
The jury is out on hargreaves but I think he has been vastly underestimated as a player to be honest....time will tell.

Neither Rooney or Ronaldinho would be in form so thats debatable.... as for Puyol.... he has vastly regressed as a player IMO, definitly wouldnt have him in the team. I lost count at how many times he was badly exposed last year... I`m waiting for all the Ferdinand haters to jump all over that comment but I think its pretty obvious that Puyol isnt the player he once was.

As for left backs, Abidal is a class ect too, I assume this is where he`ll play for them next year. On form though Evra was superb last year and gets the nod for me.

Oh ffs.

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 05:03 PM
edmilson eaten alive?
are you a total wum

Edmilson will no do well in the premiership.

Aston Villa player at best.

Roman Abramovich
09-07-2007, 05:06 PM
The jury is out on hargreaves but I think he has been vastly underestimated as a player to be honest....time will tell.
.

its not that hes not a decent player, its that hes not worth 16m and he should certainly not be a man utd top top signing. Flamini would have been a free transfer, way more versatile, far better getting foward, far better engine, better tackler and equal on distrib...

and utd probably didnt even consider him. Hes also got far more experience in england, far less a risk, and most importantly would have done an equal and more than likely better job, and cost fuck all.

i do rate flamini that highly. Hargreaves is at parkers, nolans, bartons, bents, barrys, dunnes, distans, taylors, jenas, dyer level.
A good decent pro. A capable pro. But the heart beat of uniteds midfield alongside carrick another decent pro?

Average signing for humongus money.

FL4ZGN
09-07-2007, 05:09 PM
its not that hes not a decent player, its that hes not worth 16m and he should certainly not be a man utd top top signing. Flamini would have been a free transfer, way more versatile, far better getting foward, far better engine, better tackler and equal on distrib...

and utd probably didnt even consider him. Hes also got far more experience in england, far less a risk, and most importantly would have done an equal and more than likely better job, and cost fuck all.

i do rate flamini that highly. Hargreaves is at parkers, nolans, bartons, bents, barrys, dunnes, distans, taylors, jenas, dyer level.
A good decent pro. A capable pro. But the heart beat of uniteds midfield alongside carrick another decent pro?

Average signing for humongus money.

£1.5 million for Mascherano was great business.

Far better player than both of the above and at a bargain price.

Mascherana upon signing for the pool "I can consider myself a Red Devil".

afeencalleddan
09-07-2007, 05:13 PM
A good decent pro. A capable pro. But the heart beat of uniteds midfield alongside carrick another decent pro?

Average signing for humongus money.Yup, it'll be another year of thrashing the Fulhams and the Romas but struggling against the Chelseas and the Milans.

lionelhutz
09-07-2007, 05:39 PM
This is a very tough call in some areas. Piss easy in others.

Guess 4-2-3-1 is the way to go.

...................V DS

NEVILLE - VIDIC - PUYOL - EVRA

.......HARGREAVES - XAVI

RONALDO - RONALDINHO - MESSI

..................ET O'O

.

6 out of 11? mockery etc...

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 05:40 PM
Yup, it'll be another year of thrashing the Fulhams and the Romas but struggling against the Chelseas and the Milans.

A late extra time goal in the cup final separated Chelsea from United

United finished ahead of them in the league and drew both games
An understrength United beat Milan at home but were well beaten away by a team who were concentraing on this one competition for the last few months

lionelhutz
09-07-2007, 05:43 PM
as for Puyol.... he has vastly regressed as a player IMO, definitly wouldnt have him in the team. I lost count at how many times he was badly exposed last year... I`m waiting for all the Ferdinand haters to jump all over that comment but I think its pretty obvious that Puyol isnt the player he once was.

.

but what about the amount of times snoop has been exposed? at least puyol has form to clawback whereas i don't think snoop has ever been the best defender around. much of a muchness though. in truth id nearly stick thuram in there. btw i think barca had the best defence in la liga this season but point taken

lionelhutz
09-07-2007, 05:44 PM
A late extra time goal in the cup final separated Chelsea from United

United finished ahead of them in the league and drew both games
An understrength United beat Milan at home but were well beaten away by a team who were concentraing on this one competition for the last few months

rattled. its on. smileyface.

STEVIEG
09-07-2007, 05:45 PM
rattled. its on. smileyface.

? The word "Struggled" may have a different meaning where i come from

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 05:47 PM
Hmm,
-------------------------Foster

---Zambrotta----Marquez/Ferdinand----Vidic----Evra

--------------Carrick-----Hargreaves------

-------Messi-------------Henry--------Rooney

--------------------------Etoo

Roman Abramovich
09-07-2007, 05:48 PM
as for Puyol.... he has vastly regressed as a player IMO, definitly wouldnt have him in the team. I lost count at how many times he was badly exposed last year... ..

still think toure pisses all over him. a comment i got lambasted for before the european cup final.

Up For The Ba
09-07-2007, 05:52 PM
Oh ffs.


I was referring to all the cynics who keep knocking him. I rate him quite highly.

Up For The Ba
09-07-2007, 05:53 PM
still think toure pisses all over him. a comment i got lambasted for before the european cup final.


By who? I wouldnt disagree with that statement and if it was me I would certainly retract it now. Puyol was awful for a lot of last season.

lionelhutz
09-07-2007, 06:05 PM
Hmm,
-------------------------Foster

---Zambrotta----Marquez/Ferdinand----Vidic----Evra

--------------Carrick-----Hargreaves------

-------Messi-------------Henry--------Rooney

--------------------------Etoo

7. heh heh heh

legend76
09-07-2007, 06:13 PM
their attacking players: giggs, scholes, ronaldo, rooney, saha, smith, solskjaer, nani, anderson, tevez. rossi.

for barca's: xavi, iniesta, ronaldinho, messi, deco, henry, guily, gudjohnson, eto'o .

well?

You must have been reading the sports section in the times yesterday.

ho chi feen
09-07-2007, 06:15 PM
6 out of 11? mockery etc...

Sorry Lionel, I must have missed your selection there...

toes
09-07-2007, 06:26 PM
You must have been reading the sports section in the times yesterday.

I only read the style section and India Knight's column in news review.

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 06:29 PM
7. heh heh heh

That is the team I'd pick.

Barcelona have a poor-ish back five and lightweight central midfielders if you're going to squeeze in maybe four luxury players ahead of them that'll not do a tap defensively.

lionelhutz
09-07-2007, 06:29 PM
Sorry Lionel, I must have missed your selection there...

read my posts in the thread. rollie eyes (sarcastic) etc.

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 06:33 PM
I only read the style section and India Knight's column in news review.

Heh heh.

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 06:35 PM
read my posts in the thread. rollie eyes (sarcastic) etc.

Yes, it would be a lovely team for an exhibition match you've got going there Ossie.

ho chi feen
09-07-2007, 06:46 PM
read my posts in the thread. rollie eyes (sarcastic) etc.


Big whoop, that midfield would be pissed upon.

Dropped a bollock on mine, clearly Zambrotta would be a starter- despite his patchy form last term, he's a gem of a player.

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 06:50 PM
Big whoop.

Dropped a bollock on mine, clearly Zambrotta would be a starter- despite his patchy form last term, he's a gem of a player.

Class player.

Can't see how you'd justify Puyol's inclusion though. It's like watching Gary Nev at centre-half. All huff and puff but useless really.

legend76
09-07-2007, 06:52 PM
I only read the style section and India Knight's column in news review.

Didn't get a chance to read the style section, cause herself was hogging it. What did Courtney Cox say about sex???

ho chi feen
09-07-2007, 06:53 PM
Class player.

Can't see how you'd justify Puyol's inclusion though. It's like watching Gary Nev at centre-half. All huff and puff but useless really.

As well as being a much superior player to Gary Neville, he's a true leader.

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 07:12 PM
As well as being a much superior player to Gary Neville, he's a true leader.

The word "meh" was invented for Carlos Puyol.

RonnyB
09-07-2007, 09:21 PM
Hmm lets see

VDS - Valdes isn't a top notch keeper when you consider Iker C, Cech & Buffon. VDS looked dodgy towards the seasons end but I'd just plump for him.

Puyol - This is prob his best position from his early days. Too close to call really between him and Nev. I'll be sticking Zambrotta at LB before ye ask.

Vidic & Snoop - Good partnership in the making. Look at the goals against column for when those 2 played and compare it to when they didnt to emphasis my point.

Zambrotta - Best full back in the world. Say no more.

Hargreaves - Probably the one holding midfielder between the 2 teams that covers the most ground. Needed in my team for the fire power planned.

Messi - Better in the big games for me than Ronaldo

Scholes - Still - when he has the men to do his dirty work - a massive creative influence. Not many players would have produced the pass for Rooney's 1st against Milan.

Ronaldinho - Can you imagine him & Scholes in the same team? The perfect contrast in creativity.

Rooney - I dont like his attitude towards refs but even though he was getting criticism over a lack of form last season he still notched 23 goals. Also provides great strength to hold up the ball if needed.

Eto'o - Very close between him and Henry but as a pair himself & Rooney probably suit best.

I'd play a 4-1-3-2 formation. When you combine those teams you'd have to play to attack.

afeencalleddan
09-07-2007, 09:33 PM
Messi - Better in the big games for me than RonaldoFair play, a United fan that isn't totally blind to the whole Ronaldo circus.

KolaKubes
09-07-2007, 09:53 PM
Fair play, a United fan that isn't totally blind to the whole Ronaldo circus.

Hey, I put Messi in ahead of Ronaldo too.

lionelhutz
10-07-2007, 09:41 AM
Yes, it would be a lovely team for an exhibition match you've got going there Ossie.

well if ever a team could actually play with ossies philosophy this one could. its a makeyup team anyway i just picked the best 11 players from both teams

FL4ZGN
10-07-2007, 09:47 AM
Hmm lets see

VDS - Valdes isn't a top notch keeper when you consider Iker C, Cech & Buffon. VDS looked dodgy towards the seasons end but I'd just plump for him.

Puyol - This is prob his best position from his early days. Too close to call really between him and Nev. I'll be sticking Zambrotta at LB before ye ask.

Vidic & Snoop - Good partnership in the making. Look at the goals against column for when those 2 played and compare it to when they didnt to emphasis my point.

Gary Neville - Best full back in the world.Been doing it for over ten years.Say no more.

Hargreaves - Probably the one holding midfielder between the 2 teams that covers the most ground. Needed in my team for the fire power planned.

Messi - Better in the big games for me than Ronaldo

Scholes - Still - when he has the men to do his dirty work - a massive creative influence. Not many players would have produced the pass for Rooney's 1st against Milan.

Ronaldinho - Can you imagine him & Scholes in the same team? The perfect contrast in creativity.

Rooney - I dont like his attitude towards refs but even though he was getting criticism over a lack of form last season he still notched 23 goals. Also provides great strength to hold up the ball if needed.

Eto'o - Very close between him and Henry but as a pair himself & Rooney probably suit best.

I'd play a 4-1-3-2 formation. When you combine those teams you'd have to play to attack.

Spot on there Ronny.

RonnyB
10-07-2007, 12:33 PM
Spot on there Ronny.

I actually picked him in my world 11 earlier in the year but looking back on it I'd put Puyol in there for simply being a better footballer. Neville does an excellent job going forward though. But in my team its a sad state of affairs if Gary Neville is needed to attack.

Roman Abramovich
11-07-2007, 10:11 AM
I actually picked him in my world 11 earlier in the year but looking back on it I'd put Puyol in there for simply being a better footballer. Neville does an excellent job going forward though. But in my team its a sad state of affairs if Gary Neville is needed to attack.

huh?????????

RonnyB
11-07-2007, 10:55 AM
huh?????????

He's a shaggy haired Spanish defender. You might have heard of him. He played with Barca in the biggest match of Arsenal's recent history.

Professor Piehead
11-07-2007, 11:00 AM
I can field this one: They'll all say no.
Reason: Most know little about football. Others are too blinkered. The rest believe the hype.

I'd say once they lose fergie and they sink to the bottom end of the table they will swap their whole team for Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal, FACT. :razz:

Langer Dan
11-07-2007, 11:02 AM
their attacking players: giggs, scholes, ronaldo, rooney, saha, smith, solskjaer, nani, anderson, tevez. rossi.

for barca's: xavi, iniesta, ronaldinho, messi, deco, henry, guily, gudjohnson, eto'o .

well?

no, and I can only assume this question stems from an article in sundays times, that pretty much raised the same question.

Up For The Ba
11-07-2007, 03:35 PM
OK, i`ll start by saying 4 things:

1: I`m a Man United Fan.
2: Gary Neville on a world team is possibly the biggest joke i`ve ever heard in my life. For better full backs see....Zambrotta, Sergio Ramos (thats his natural position IMO), Salgado, Finnan, Oddo, Miguel, Zanetti.... ect ect.
3: I know its been said lots of time but Carlos Tevez isnt a United player, hopefully he will be.
4: Any United fan who is saying that they wouldnt swap Uniteds attacking options with Barcelona`s are extremely blinkered. Barcelona have the greatest set of attacking players in World football on their books. Lets set them off against each other:

Giggs V Ronaldinho - Giggs has been a superb player and a superb professional but he is at the end of his days. Ronaldinho still has the ability to regain his crown as "The best player on the world" and has a few years on Giggs.

Scholes V Xavi - Again, if Scholes was younger this would be a very tough decision but he`s not, case closed.

Ronaldo V Messi - Ronaldo has done an awful lot on the last 18 months to prove some of the doubters wrong, but question marks still hang over his attitude and decision making. In a big game i`d prefer to have Messi on my team, he`s the real deal, best ball control i`ve seen since Maradonna and early days Ronaldo (Brazil) and will undoubtably go on to be one of the best players of his generation at worst.

Rooney V Eto'o - Rooney has frightening potential and a savage appetite for work (and cheesburgers). Eto'o IMO is the best out and out striker in world football at the moment. Given the fact that Rooney is younger there`s not much between them in terms of value to a team.

Saha V Henry - Henry is still one of the Worlds top players, as good a player Saha is, this ones no contest.

Giuly V`s Nani - Giuly is unlucky enough to be at a team that has such a frightening variety of attcking options. I think he`d stroll onto most other teams in Europe and France made a big mistake leaving him at home for the World cup. Nani looks like he has a lot of potential, but from what i`ve seen he looks a lot more raw than Cristiano Ronaldo was a few years ago. Time will tell here, but if I wanted to mount a challenge for serious trophies in the next few years surely the more experienced players will benefit you more. A matter of opninion on this one really.

Anderson V Iniesta - Iniesta is a better version of Fabregas IMO. Again he`s so unlucky that Barcelona have Deco and Xavi competing for his position. Anderson looks to have huge potential, but i`d go back to my point with Nani on this one, and Iniesta`s undoubted ability to perform when it matters and valuable experience would surely influence any decision here.

Smith V Gudjohnson - The iceman any day of the week. I never rated Smith as a player but he has a terrific fighting spirit which should be commended. I once remember a certain someone saying he would be United player of the year when he signed :D :L

Solskjaer V Deco - too different to compare but age isnt on Ole`s side and Deco would have something to offer to most teams around.

Rossi V Maxi Lopez - Rossi gets the nod here but its quite Irrelevant considering neither player really has a future at their respective clubs it would seem.

FL4ZGN
11-07-2007, 03:43 PM
OK, i`ll start by saying 4 things:

1: I`m a Man United Fan.
2: Gary Neville on a world team is possibly the biggest joke i`ve ever heard in my life. For better full backs see....Zambrotta, Sergio Ramos (thats his natural position IMO), Salgado, Finnan, Oddo, Miguel, Zanetti.... ect ect.
3: I know its been said lots of time but Carlos Tevez isnt a United player, hopefully he will be.
4: Any United fan who is saying that they wouldnt swap Uniteds attacking options with Barcelona`s are extremely blinkered. Barcelona have the greatest set of attacking players in World football on their books. Lets set them off against each other:

Giggs V Ronaldinho - Giggs has been a superb player and a superb professional but he is at the end of his days. Ronaldinho still has the ability to regain his crown as "The best player on the world" and has a few years on Giggs.

Scholes V Xavi - Again, if Scholes was younger this would be a very tough decision but he`s not, case closed.

Ronaldo V Messi - Ronaldo has done an awful lot on the last 18 months to prove some of the doubters wrong, but question marks still hang over his attitude and decision making. In a big game i`d prefer to have Messi on my team, he`s the real deal, best ball control i`ve seen since Maradonna and early days Ronaldo (Brazil) and will undoubtably go on to be one of the best players of his generation at worst.

Rooney V Eto'o - Rooney has frightening potential and a savage appetite for work (and cheesburgers). Eto'o IMO is the best out and out striker in world football at the moment. Given the fact that Rooney is younger there`s not much between them in terms of value to a team.

Saha V Henry - Henry is still one of the Worlds top players, as good a player Saha is, this ones no contest.

Giuly V`s Nani - Giuly is unlucky enough to be at a team that has such a frightening variety of attcking options. I think he`d stroll onto most other teams in Europe and France made a big mistake leaving him at home for the World cup. Nani looks like he has a lot of potential, but from what i`ve seen he looks a lot more raw than Cristiano Ronaldo was a few years ago. Time will tell here, but if I wanted to mount a challenge for serious trophies in the next few years surely the more experienced players will benefit you more. A matter of opninion on this one really.

Anderson V Iniesta - Iniesta is a better version of Fabregas IMO. Again he`s so unlucky that Barcelona have Deco and Xavi competing for his position. Anderson looks to have huge potential, but i`d go back to my point with Nani on this one, and Iniesta`s undoubted ability to perform when it matters and valuable experience would surely influence any decision here.

Smith V Gudjohnson - The iceman any day of the week. I never rated Smith as a player but he has a terrific fighting spirit which should be commended. I once remember a certain someone saying he would be United player of the year when he signed :D :L

Solskjaer V Deco - too different to compare but age isnt on Ole`s side and Deco would have something to offer to most teams around.

Rossi V Maxi Lopez - Rossi gets the nod here but its quite Irrelevant considering neither player really has a future at their respective clubs it would seem.

If Gary Neville was born in Brazil he would be considered one of the best right sided defenders playing today.

Just ask Michael Owen, David Beckham, Terry Venables and the other who have called him the best right sided defender in the game.

Is there a better crosser in the premiership?

The guy has been doing the business at the highest level on a consistent basis for over ten years. Who else in the modern game with the exception Zanetti can you say that about?

RonnyB
11-07-2007, 03:51 PM
OK, i`ll start by saying 4 things:

1: I`m a Man United Fan.
2: Gary Neville on a world team is possibly the biggest joke i`ve ever heard in my life. For better full backs see....Zambrotta, Sergio Ramos (thats his natural position IMO), Salgado, Finnan, Oddo, Miguel, Zanetti.... ect ect.
3: I know its been said lots of time but Carlos Tevez isnt a United player, hopefully he will be.
4: Any United fan who is saying that they wouldnt swap Uniteds attacking options with Barcelona`s are extremely blinkered. Barcelona have the greatest set of attacking players in World football on their books. Lets set them off against each other:

Giggs V Ronaldinho - Giggs has been a superb player and a superb professional but he is at the end of his days. Ronaldinho still has the ability to regain his crown as "The best player on the world" and has a few years on Giggs.

Scholes V Xavi - Again, if Scholes was younger this would be a very tough decision but he`s not, case closed.

Ronaldo V Messi - Ronaldo has done an awful lot on the last 18 months to prove some of the doubters wrong, but question marks still hang over his attitude and decision making. In a big game i`d prefer to have Messi on my team, he`s the real deal, best ball control i`ve seen since Maradonna and early days Ronaldo (Brazil) and will undoubtably go on to be one of the best players of his generation at worst.

Rooney V Eto'o - Rooney has frightening potential and a savage appetite for work (and cheesburgers). Eto'o IMO is the best out and out striker in world football at the moment. Given the fact that Rooney is younger there`s not much between them in terms of value to a team.

Saha V Henry - Henry is still one of the Worlds top players, as good a player Saha is, this ones no contest.

Giuly V`s Nani - Giuly is unlucky enough to be at a team that has such a frightening variety of attcking options. I think he`d stroll onto most other teams in Europe and France made a big mistake leaving him at home for the World cup. Nani looks like he has a lot of potential, but from what i`ve seen he looks a lot more raw than Cristiano Ronaldo was a few years ago. Time will tell here, but if I wanted to mount a challenge for serious trophies in the next few years surely the more experienced players will benefit you more. A matter of opninion on this one really.

Anderson V Iniesta - Iniesta is a better version of Fabregas IMO. Again he`s so unlucky that Barcelona have Deco and Xavi competing for his position. Anderson looks to have huge potential, but i`d go back to my point with Nani on this one, and Iniesta`s undoubted ability to perform when it matters and valuable experience would surely influence any decision here.

Smith V Gudjohnson - The iceman any day of the week. I never rated Smith as a player but he has a terrific fighting spirit which should be commended. I once remember a certain someone saying he would be United player of the year when he signed :D :L

Solskjaer V Deco - too different to compare but age isnt on Ole`s side and Deco would have something to offer to most teams around.

Rossi V Maxi Lopez - Rossi gets the nod here but its quite Irrelevant considering neither player really has a future at their respective clubs it would seem.

I stopped reading after seeing the names you rated ahead of Neville.

Up For The Ba
11-07-2007, 03:51 PM
If Gary Neville was born in Brazil he would be considered one of the best right sided defenders playing today.

Just ask Michael Owen, David Beckham, Terry Venables and the other who have called him the best right sided defender in the game.

Is there a better crosser in the premiership?

The guy has been doing the business at the highest level on a consistent basis for over ten years. Who else in the modern game with the exception Zanetti can you say that about?


If Gary Neville was born in Brazil he would disowned and shipped off to Peru. In his early years he was awful. Offered little going forward and was constantly at fault for goals due to basic errors. Since Beckham left he actually became a much better player, going forward he offers an awful lot to be fair these days. However his defending and man marking inside the penalty area is still waaaaaaaaaaaay too suspect.

Is there a better crosser in the premiership??? Stuart Downing for one.

Consistently doing the business at the highest level around the world we have had plenty of contenders....Salgad o, Cafu the aforementioned Zanetti, Thuram, Finnan is around a while.... all of whom are far superior to our Gaz.

FL4ZGN
11-07-2007, 03:55 PM
If Gary Neville was born in Brazil he would disowned and shipped off to Peru. In his early years he was awful. Offered little going forward and was constantly at fault for goals due to basic errors. Since Beckham left he actually became a much better player, going forward he offers an awful lot to be fair these days. However his defending and man marking inside the penalty area is still waaaaaaaaaaaay too suspect.

Is there a better crosser in the premiership??? Stuart Downing for one.

Consistently doing the business at the highest level around the world we have had plenty of contenders....Salgad o, Cafu the aforementioned Zanetti, Thuram, Finnan is around a while.... all of whom are far superior to our Gaz.

See your comments on Ramos above. (Salgado has been in and out of the team for the past two seasons).

Cafu. (Is he a defender?)

Thuram (Played four of the past five seasons at centre half)

Zanetti (Agreed)

Finnan (Not MUQ)

I'm afraid i cant agree UFTB.

homer jay
11-07-2007, 03:57 PM
1: I`m a Man United Fan.

boooooooo!

good post apart from that :)

Up For The Ba
11-07-2007, 03:58 PM
See your comments on Ramos above. (Salgado has been in and out of the team for the past two seasons).

Cafu. (Is he a defender?)

Thuram (Played four of the past five seasons at centre half)

Zanetti (Agreed)

Finnan (Not MUQ)

I'm afraid i cant agree UFTB.


Fair enough its all opinion at the end of the day. I just never rated Neville that highly and I never will. He`s done a job for 10 years but with the exception of 1 or 2 seasons it was never to a very high level IMO.

FL4ZGN
11-07-2007, 04:01 PM
Fair enough its all opinion at the end of the day. I just never rated Neville that highly and I never will. He`s done a job for 10 years but with the exception of 1 or 2 seasons it was never to a very high level IMO.

If that was true i'm sure the wizzard would have moved him on years ago.

Up For The Ba
11-07-2007, 04:06 PM
If that was true i'm sure the wizzard would have moved him on years ago.

The Nevilles have some dirt on Fergie, i`m convined of it ;) Dont get me wrong, for the most part he`s done enough to merit his place over the 10 years, but I think best right back in world football is way OTT.

KolaKubes
11-07-2007, 04:07 PM
Jesus, I mean Utd miss Neville when he's out but only because there's no quality cover there.

A good player but far from World Class.

There was a time when Champions League opponents used just let him have the ball a la what Milan did with Heinze at the San Siro.

It wasn't all that long ago.

He wasn't all that spectacularly good a defender to compensate for this either.

Compare with Denis Irwin on the other flank like. No contest.

FL4ZGN
11-07-2007, 04:13 PM
Jesus, I mean Utd miss Neville when he's out but only because there's no quality cover there.

A good player but far from World Class.

There was a time when Champions League opponents used just let him have the ball a la what Milan did with Heinze at the San Siro.

It wasn't all that long ago.

He wasn't all that spectacularly good a defender to compensate for this either.

Compare with Denis Irwin on the other flank like. No contest.

He's no Bryan Robson ;)

Langer Dan
11-07-2007, 05:46 PM
If Gary Neville was born in Brazil he would disowned and shipped off to Peru. In his early years he was awful. Offered little going forward and was constantly at fault for goals due to basic errors. Since Beckham left he actually became a much better player, going forward he offers an awful lot to be fair these days. However his defending and man marking inside the penalty area is still waaaaaaaaaaaay too suspect.

Is there a better crosser in the premiership??? Stuart Downing for one.
Consistently doing the business at the highest level around the world we have had plenty of contenders....Salgad o, Cafu the aforementioned Zanetti, Thuram, Finnan is around a while.... all of whom are far superior to our Gaz.

good post upto.....sd, pffft hahahahahahahahaha:) :)

RonnyB
12-07-2007, 09:14 AM
If that was true i'm sure the wizzard would have moved him on years ago.

Nail on the head.

Also its not like United were seriously linked with another RB in the ten years. Thuram was wanted for centre half back around the time Veron was signed but thats about it.

KolaKubes
12-07-2007, 09:42 AM
Nail on the head.

Also its not like United were seriously linked with another RB in the ten years. Thuram was wanted for centre half back around the time Veron was signed but thats about it.

We tried to sign Cicinho maybe 18 months ago.

They've replaced Heinze with Evra because they wanted a more attacking full back to give width to the system. I'd say the only reason they've not replaced Neville is he's bucked up considerably going forward, possibly knowing the writing is on the wall.

Interesting to see what happens when Nev picks up his first injury of the season and young Danny Simpson gets his chance.

Full back is a funny position. The best ones are sort of good all rounders and it's hard to know early on who's going to make a top class full back because they could just as easily fall into being not quite good enough at everything i.e. John O'Shea!

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 10:06 AM
He's a shaggy haired Spanish defender. You might have heard of him. He played with Barca in the biggest match of Arsenal's recent history.
you do realise how shit puyol has been this season?

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 10:08 AM
I stopped reading after seeing the names you rated ahead of Neville.

i stopped after he said iniesta was better than fabregas.
you didnt miss much.

but at least he calls it like he sees it and doesnt sit on a fence like most mancs.

RonnyB
12-07-2007, 10:39 AM
you do realise how shit puyol has been this season?

To be honest I've watched very little Spanish football in the last 2 years but I've heard he's been sloppy alright.

Its all ifs and buts thought with these teams we pick.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 10:47 AM
To be honest I've watched very little Spanish football in the last 2 years but I've heard he's been sloppy alright.

Its all ifs and buts thought with these teams we pick.

you seriously couldnt put puyoul in a team of the year or even best team in the world. Ramos in my view is quickly becoming the best defender in la-liga.
Defending in la-liga isnt that hard.
Cygan, yes the guy i said was unluckey at arsenal, has been named villareals player of the year.

This despite forlan getting 19 goals, and pires and riquleme playing unreal football towards the end of the season, when, cygan was out injured.
Player of the year huh!! Not bad. Maybe they werent nuts paying the money they did for him.

Forsberg
12-07-2007, 11:01 AM
you seriously couldnt put puyoul in a team of the year or even best team in the world. Ramos in my view is quickly becoming the best defender in la-liga.
Defending in la-liga isnt that hard.
Cygan, yes the guy i said was unluckey at arsenal, has been named villareals player of the year.

This despite forlan getting 19 goals, and pires and riquleme playing unreal football towards the end of the season, when, cygan was out injured.
Player of the year huh!! Not bad. Maybe they werent nuts paying the money they did for him.

Jesus he's even better than I thought. Was he commuting from Argentina for games?

Up For The Ba
12-07-2007, 11:04 AM
i stopped after he said iniesta was better than fabregas.



Thats an opinion I stand over.

KolaKubes
12-07-2007, 11:14 AM
Jesus he's even better than I thought. Was he commuting from Argentina for games?

"Riquelme accepted a 5 month loan back to Boca Juniors on February 2007 following a tense situation between him and Villarreal's director and coach."

Heh heh heh heh.

KolaKubes
12-07-2007, 11:15 AM
Thats an opinion I stand over.

Iniesta is a very good attacking midfielder.

Fabregas is a very good attacking midfielder but who doesn't score goals and is a bluffer as a holding midfielder.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 11:27 AM
Jesus he's even better than I thought. Was he commuting from Argentina for games?

my bad........i know this will sound like bollox but wrote that on autopilot.
it was fernandez who played in the departed role i was on about.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 11:28 AM
"Riquelme accepted a 5 month loan back to Boca Juniors on February 2007 following a tense situation between him and Villarreal's director and coach."

Heh heh heh heh.

yeah total brain freeze when posting. meant to type his replacements name and instead but his in. call it a fitzy.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 11:33 AM
Iniesta is a very good attacking midfielder.

Fabregas is a very good attacking midfielder but who doesn't score goals and is a bluffer as a holding midfielder.

scored 4 last season. 2 champions league. 2 league.
iniesta is 3 years older than him.
in 2004/05 when he was similar age to fabregas and played all bar one of barcas league games he scored a grand total of 2 league goals.

fabregas is a much better tackler.
and hasnt he played as striker a few times for barca last season....

Sound
12-07-2007, 11:34 AM
The new Damien Duff wasn't bad last night.

Nice chip.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 11:35 AM
The new Damien Duff wasn't bad last night.

Nice chip.

i tought he played very poor.
great chip though.

homer jay
12-07-2007, 11:39 AM
fabregas is a much better tackler.

didn't the everton fella fernandes run rings round him last season? with fibreglass ending up on his arse?

Sound
12-07-2007, 11:47 AM
i tought he played very poor.
great chip though.

Why does that not surprise me.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 11:49 AM
Why does that not surprise me.

its an opinion. see his miss at the end? for fuck sake.
over rated and over hyped.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 11:52 AM
didn't the everton fella fernandes run rings round him last season? with fibreglass ending up on his arse?

one game like. so what?
i seem to remember him going to old trafford and getting man of the match.
i also seem to remember him making a mug out of the rashest tackler in football in robbie savage.

homer jay
12-07-2007, 11:54 AM
one game like. so what?

he's over rated as a tackler.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 11:56 AM
from 2:50 on......

heh heh heh

v_7DMtGi9g7k

lionelhutz
12-07-2007, 11:58 AM
The new Damien Duff wasn't bad last night.

Nice chip.

missed it. ffs

Forsberg
12-07-2007, 11:59 AM
didn't the everton fella fernandes run rings round him last season? with fibreglass ending up on his arse?

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8535/animation3go2.gif

:D

homer jay
12-07-2007, 12:07 PM
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8535/animation3go2.gif

:D

that's the one. miles away. over rated and over hyped

SSL_5tsQfeE

lionelhutz
12-07-2007, 12:10 PM
its an opinion. see his miss at the end? for fuck sake.
over rated and over hyped.

heh heh heh. just watched some clips. awesome.

Forsberg
12-07-2007, 12:13 PM
that's the one. miles away. over rated and over hyped

SSL_5tsQfeE

I can't believe Moyes isn't gonna try and get him back at Goodison somehow next season.

homer jay
12-07-2007, 12:13 PM
heh heh heh. just watched some clips. awesome.

link? the footytube clip doesn't seem to be working.

edit: just saw it on youyube

lionelhutz
12-07-2007, 12:16 PM
link? the footytube clip doesn't seem to be working.

edit: just saw it on youyube

youtube, clips from skysports. whens the final? have missed most of this tournament

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 12:19 PM
that's the one. miles away. over rated and over hyped

SSL_5tsQfeE

great effort.....led to a pass back though.
Find my comments on fernadez after that game.
this wasnt too shoddy....
wiFSc_C86hY

homer jay
12-07-2007, 12:19 PM
I can't believe Moyes isn't gonna try and get him back at Goodison somehow next season.

i have to say, he was good in the small bits i saw him. he seemed to get the crowd going as well, which i thought everton have been lacking, a bit of self belief from the crowd would have gone a long way imo.

you'd think everton would splash the cash with the new tv deal etc.

homer jay
12-07-2007, 12:20 PM
great effort.....led to a pass back though.
Find my comments on fernadez after that game.
this wasnt too shoddy....

you mean this?

wiFSc_C86hY

edit: meh. i seem to remember him getting pwned by evra for rooney's goal at the emirates

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 12:31 PM
edit: meh. i seem to remember him getting pwned by evra for rooney's goal at the emirates

heh heh heh
pwned? for fuck sake......chillax now a bit.
he'd waltz into a pool side, a chelsea side, a utd side.
Waltz!!

look at that clip of everas goal.
yeah total owned all right!!

Sound
12-07-2007, 12:34 PM
I have no idea who we're talking about as I cant see the clips.

Up For The Ba
12-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Iniesta wasnt played as a striker last season, he was deployed a few times on the right of Barca`s top 3 attacking players.... which really isnt a strikers position.

Messi overhyped? You`re having a giraffe......some day your gonna have to stick your hand up and admit you got this one wrong.

KolaKubes
12-07-2007, 12:38 PM
yeah total brain freeze when posting. meant to type his replacements name and instead but his in. call it a fitzy.

How about we just call it a slip up and forget all about it?
This Fitzy bullshit.

Why should those programme collecting anoraks be setting the agenda on here?

Free the Sports Forum from the Berties.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 12:40 PM
Iniesta wasnt played as a striker last season, he was deployed a few times on the right of Barca`s top 3 attacking players.... which really isnt a strikers position.

Messi overhyped? You`re having a giraffe......some day your gonna have to stick your hand up and admit you got this one wrong.

i will when he proves it.....
as for his striker role, i can distinctally remember two champions league games where he played more central of the three...scoring in each game.

Forsberg
12-07-2007, 12:41 PM
i have to say, he was good in the small bits i saw him. he seemed to get the crowd going as well, which i thought everton have been lacking, a bit of self belief from the crowd would have gone a long way imo.

you'd think everton would splash the cash with the new tv deal etc.

It doesn't seem like there's any money there. Either that or Moyes and the board are doing the best job ever of keeping their summer transfer activities out of the public eye. I'd presume it's the former.

There were a lot of rumours that Everton spent all of this years TV money on last years transfers of Lescott and AJ . It seems there could be some truth in that now tbh.

I'd imagine that we'll see one maybe two more players at a push. MAybe Richardson and Smith from Man U.

Being the eternal optimist that I am , I still hold on to the smallest hope that Beattie and Van Der Meyde will come good. :rolleyes:

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 12:42 PM
How about we just call it a slip up and forget all about it?

ive nothing to forget.....they signed riquelmes replacement in jan that year and he played very well for what i saw of him.
still doesnt hide from the fact a player who couldnt even get into the arsenal team got player of the year for villa real when diego forlan got another 19 odd goals for them.

KolaKubes
12-07-2007, 12:43 PM
one game like. so what?
i seem to remember him going to old trafford and getting man of the match.
i also seem to remember him making a mug out of the rashest tackler in football in robbie savage.

It's interesting that performing against Utd is back as the true measure of a player.

Heh heh.

Roman, in any other period in the Premiership's history, Fabregas would be getting fucking cleaned out by the likes of Keane.

Robbie Savage, like, is he what passes for a top quality defensive mid now?

Fabregas' few years grace will be passing soon enough. The guy's a protected species but the underlying twattery of the man is becoming better known and I expect this to change, both from the point of view of opposing players and refs.

Scholes has gotten away with it all his career but only because he's well liked in the game.

homer jay
12-07-2007, 12:44 PM
heh heh heh
pwned? for fuck sake......chillax now a bit.
he'd waltz into a pool side, a chelsea side, a utd side.
Waltz!!

look at that clip of everas goal.
yeah total owned all right!!

heh heh heh :)

KolaKubes
12-07-2007, 12:49 PM
ive nothing to forget.....they signed riquelmes replacement in jan that year and he played very well for what i saw of him.
still doesnt hide from the fact a player who couldnt even get into the arsenal team got player of the year for villa real when diego forlan got another 19 odd goals for them.

The success of Forlan in La Liga says a lot.

Up For The Ba
12-07-2007, 12:52 PM
i will when he proves it.....
as for his striker role, i can distinctally remember two champions league games where he played more central of the three...scoring in each game.

Iniesta drifts... He was never named in that role that I have seen, the way he runs off the ball often sees him falling into that position.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 12:58 PM
Iniesta drifts... He was never named in that role that I have seen, the way he runs off the ball often sees him falling into that position.

he was in them champions league games.
leave me do a google search and see can i get any info.

i know the source is shoddy but here...


Iniesta is a versatile player who can play in a variety of midfield roles. He is usually used in a central midfield role - sometimes as a creative midfielder and sometimes as a holding midfielder. He has also played on the right hand side of midfield on occasion. During the match between Barcelona and PFC Levski Sofia in the UEFA Champions League 2006/07, Iniesta was playing the role of a striker instead of midfield and he scored twice in the two games that Barcelona played against them. He was also assigned to cover Steven Gerrard at the right flank, meaning he had to play as left back in the matches against Liverpool in the UEFA Champions League first knockout round in 2007 and performed considerably well.


wiki

lionelhutz
12-07-2007, 01:23 PM
Iniesta wasnt played as a striker last season, he was deployed a few times on the right of Barca`s top 3 attacking players.... which really isnt a strikers position.

Messi overhyped? You`re having a giraffe......some day your gonna have to stick your hand up and admit you got this one wrong.

i thought you're inclusion of iniesta a while back in a world xi was a bit much but the more games he's played for barca the more he's impressed me. very versitile. has a bit of everything, great close control, passing, can dribble if necessary, score the odd goal and he's not afraid to tackle. he and fabregas are quite similar but id go for iniesta if i had the choice.

as for naff naff admitting he was wrong, well......

Up For The Ba
12-07-2007, 01:42 PM
i thought you're inclusion of iniesta a while back in a world xi was a bit much but the more games he's played for barca the more he's impressed me. very versitile. has a bit of everything, great close control, passing, can dribble if necessary, score the odd goal and he's not afraid to tackle. he and fabregas are quite similar but id go for iniesta if i had the choice.

as for naff naff admitting he was wrong, well......

:D :D

Glad someone else agrees with me on Iniesta.

Roman Abramovich
12-07-2007, 01:59 PM
:D :D

Glad someone else agrees with me on Iniesta.

3 years older?
Iniesta looks like a kiddy fiddler.
FACT

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Andrés_Iniesta_21dec 2006.jpg/444px-Andrés_Iniesta_21dec 2006.jpg

i wouldnt trust him with me kids, let alone central midfield in me dream team.

STEVIEG
12-07-2007, 02:02 PM
Every day i see this thread i vow not to read it

I foolishly end up reading it anyway

Can i have the last five minutes of my life back please!

Up For The Ba
12-07-2007, 02:41 PM
Every day i see this thread i vow not to read it

I foolishly end up reading it anyway

Can i have the last five minutes of my life back please!

You read fast Stevie..... what are ya? Johnny 5???

STEVIEG
12-07-2007, 05:29 PM
Damn i meant that i read the last few pages everyday!!!:)

toes
12-07-2007, 05:46 PM
this still going?

The answer was: Yes, but they're too blinkered to admit it.

STEVIEG
12-07-2007, 05:50 PM
this still going?

The answer was: Yes, but they're too blinkered to admit it.

I wonder would they swap their latest season for Barcelonas?

toes
12-07-2007, 06:11 PM
I wonder would they swap their latest season for Barcelonas?

Stevie, now that's just crazy talk.

Shur they're in different leagues :rolleyes:

STEVIEG
12-07-2007, 06:15 PM
Stevie, now that's just crazy talk.

Shur they're in different leagues :rolleyes:

heh heh

If in was pushed on this question I'd say Barca but these comparison arguments are ultimately silly

toes
12-07-2007, 06:20 PM
Bravo, Stevie.

There's a world of colour out there when you take off the red specs.

STEVIEG
12-07-2007, 06:23 PM
Bravo, Stevie.

There's a world of colour out there when you take off the red specs.

I'm quite objective!

Messi is the form player in the Wolrd at the moment while Ronaldinho, Eto, Henry et all are all class

btw Statement due on the Tevez thing from United

Rumour has that they may be pulling out we will wait and see i suppose

Hard to know what to believe with these rumours

toes
12-07-2007, 06:26 PM
I'm quite objective!



I'm commending you on it.

Obviously you're picking up a sarky tone off my posts, which i cant really account for.

STEVIEG
12-07-2007, 06:35 PM
=
Obviously you're picking up a sarky tone off my posts, which i cant really account for.

nope not at all