The Official Cork Vs Waterford Thread

[RonnyB]

Ok so this game is still hard to call because of the unknown fate of the 'Semple 4'. If those players are unavailable this is the team I'd pick for the Waterford match.

Nash

Brian Murphy
Cian O'C
Shane O'Neill

Tom Kenny
Curran
Kevin Hartnett

Hero
Jerry (if he's fit)

Timmy
Niall Mc
Pa Cronin

Ben
Fraggie
Deano

Ok I've broken up the regular midfield duo but maybe having 4 players making their 1st championship start in the one area of the field is a bit much so I'm reverting Tom Kenny to his '03 position. Remember he was MOTM in the '03 Munster Final against the same opposition.

Also my belief is that the Waterford forwards are more physical than technical which in many ways may make them easier to defend against.

With that team I'm still hopeful that we can beat Waterford.

[BangorFeen]

Anybody reckon furtive glances are being made in Wayne Sherlock's direction?

[RonnyB]

Anybody reckon furtive glances are being made in Wayne Sherlock's direction?

Who knows but if so its unfair on the fellas who were in the squad all along, even though Sherlock if available should be in the 15 when alls well.

[Up For The Ba]

Anybody reckon furtive glances are being made in Wayne Sherlock's direction?

I wouldnt think so, that whole thing has gone too personal IMO.

I fear Waterford could really beat us out the gap to be honest.

[Rebelred]

Ok so this game is still hard to call because of the unknown fate of the 'Semple 4'. If those players are unavailable this is the team I'd pick for the Waterford match.

Nash

Brian Murphy
Cian O'C
Shane O'Neill

Tom Kenny
Curran
Kevin Hartnett

Hero
Jerry (if he's fit)

Timmy
Niall Mc
Pa Cronin

Ben
Fraggie
Deano

Ok I've broken up the regular midfield duo but maybe having 4 players making their 1st championship start in the one area of the field is a bit much so I'm reverting Tom Kenny to his '03 position. Remember he was MOTM in the '03 Munster Final against the same opposition.

Also my belief is that the Waterford forwards are more physical than technical which in many ways may make them easier to defend against.

With that team I'm still hopeful that we can beat Waterford.

would agree with that for the most part, should Jerry not be fit however I'd put Kenny back at midfield and bring in Peter Kelly or Graham Callinan at wing back.
Coleman has a strong claim for goal aswell, will be very tough to pick between himself and Nash

[RonnyB]

would agree with that for the most part, should Jerry not be fit however I'd put Kenny back at midfield and bring in Peter Kelly or Graham Callinan at wing back.
Coleman has a strong claim for goal aswell, will be very tough to pick between himself and Nash

agreed on the midfield if Jerry is out.

As for goal I've seen a good bit of both & Nash for me is a better keeper. Where Coleman has an advantage is his ability to score frees from inside his own '45 and is a little bit older but for me Nash is the best shot stopper in Cork.

[megatron]

jerry is fit and if the 4 are suspended i think it will go with

nash, s o neill, harnett and callnan coming in the half back line and keeping the midfield together, if we keep hero in the half forward line that'll make a stronger one to 9, hero would only weakin the midfield, callnan is more than able to look after himself in the halfback line.

[Up For The Ba]

Callanan apparently missed the bus to Thurles on Sunday... thats not gonna go down well i`d say..

[Rebelred]

Callanan apparently missed the bus to Thurles on Sunday... thats not gonna go down well i`d say..

his car then broke down on the way up aswell

[Up For The Ba]

his car then broke down on the way up aswell

:-D

[Rebelred]

:-D

it's funny coz it's true I guess. Poor fella didn't have a good day at all

[megatron]

Callanan apparently missed the bus to Thurles on Sunday... thats not gonna go down well i`d say..

yes he did but in fairness to the bloke he drove to the hotel where cork had there pre game meal

[cork*girl]

when are the tickets on sale?

[megatron]

let this game begin, even before this match has even started were down 3 exceptional players, but so what, have a look who's gonna come in, IMO shane o neill, kevin Hartnett and on goal martin coleman.

we the cork fans have to travel in force again to thurles to get behind our team once more, we the cork fans have be shouting and roaring till there is no air in our lungs left.

we have to rise to this occasion, we've won 50 Munster titles, 30 all Ireland's but this match means much more, the gaa are trying to upset us with suspending the 3 three lads, big fucking mistake, they've pissed us off now and i know the rest of the lads on the panel will fight for every single ball, they will fight like there lives depended on it, when they put on that red n white jersey there not playing for cloyne,piarsaigh,eri ns own or newtown etc etc. there playing for cork, this jersey means so much to them, to us, the cork gaa fans we're like the 16th man to cork hurlers, were up against it this Sunday but we have to be hungry this Sunday we have to put everything into this match, were playing a team who we know very well and IMO a team i hate more than Dublin, these shower of knackers are going to thurles thinking they've won the last 6 all Ireland's, there an ignorant cocky bunch of scumbags and we the cork fans have to quieten them on Sunday

come on the rebels

lets go for 3 in a row Munster titles

corcaigh abu

[RonnyB]

let this game begin, even before this match has even started were down 3 exceptional players, but so what, have a look who's gonna come in, IMO shane o neill, kevin Hartnett and on goal martin coleman.

we the cork fans have to travel in force again to thurles to get behind our team once more, we the cork fans have be shouting and roaring till there is no air in our lungs left.

we have to rise to this occasion, we've won 30 Munster titles, 50 all Ireland's but this match means much more, the gaa are trying to upset us with suspending the 3 three lads, big fucking mistake, they've pissed us off now and i know the rest of the lads on the panel will fight for every single ball, they will fight like there lives depended on it, when they put on that red n white jersey there not playing for cloyne,piarsaigh,eri ns own or newtown etc etc. there playing for cork, this jersey means so much to them, to us, the cork gaa fans we're like the 16th man to cork hurlers, were up against it this Sunday but we have to be hungry this Sunday we have to put everything into this match, were playing a team who we know very well and IMO a team i hate more than Dublin, these shower of knackers are going to thurles thinking they've won the last 6 all Ireland's, there an ignorant cocky bunch of scumbags and we the cork fans have to quieten them on Sunday

come on the rebels

lets go for 3 in a row Munster titles

corcaigh abu

Well said.


I agree with everything except whats in bold.

[Widebhoy]

let this game begin, even before this match has even started were down 3 exceptional players, but so what, have a look who's gonna come in, IMO shane o neill, kevin Hartnett and on goal martin coleman.

we the cork fans have to travel in force again to thurles to get behind our team once more, we the cork fans have be shouting and roaring till there is no air in our lungs left.

we have to rise to this occasion, we've won 30 Munster titles, 50 all Ireland's but this match means much more, the gaa are trying to upset us with suspending the 3 three lads, big fucking mistake, they've pissed us off now and i know the rest of the lads on the panel will fight for every single ball, they will fight like there lives depended on it, when they put on that red n white jersey there not playing for cloyne,piarsaigh,eri ns own or newtown etc etc. there playing for cork, this jersey means so much to them, to us, the cork gaa fans we're like the 16th man to cork hurlers, were up against it this Sunday but we have to be hungry this Sunday we have to put everything into this match, were playing a team who we know very well and IMO a team i hate more than Dublin, these shower of knackers are going to thurles thinking they've won the last 6 all Ireland's, there an ignorant cocky bunch of scumbags and we the cork fans have to quieten them on Sunday

come on the rebels

lets go for 3 in a row Munster titles

corcaigh abu

That's the shit I'm talking about!

Do we really want to lose to the likes of this ugly inbred prick, just look at the cut of him...

http://newsfeed.tcm.ie/images/people/johnmullane.jpg

[cork*girl]

haha that is quite funny.

[MonTheHoops]

Coleman's a brilliant keeper anyway - he'd be number one choice for almost every other county.

[Rebelred]

Coleman's a brilliant keeper anyway - he'd be number one choice for almost every other county.

Not in Cork it seems!

Nash,
Murhpy, O'Connor,O'Neill
Gardiner,Curran, Hartnett,
Tom and Jerry
hero,Niall Mac, Cronin
Ben,Fraggy, Deane

[Glenagow]

Agree with you MonTheHops. He's a class keeper. Nash a gret shotstopper but Coleman is a more well rounded keeper in my opinion. Good and accurate puck out, excellent shot-stopper and excellent under the high ball. Its Nash who's in though, so best of luck to him.

And the rest of them!!

[megatron]

A Nash

S O Neill
C O Connor
B Murphy

J Gardiner
R Curran
K Hartnett

T Kenny
J O Connor

P Cronin
N McCarthy
K Murphy (captain)

B O Connor
K Murphy
J Deane

this is them that will fight till the end, this is the team what were gonna be shoutin n roaring for, this is the team whats gonna hurl them ugly scummy fuckers from waterford off the field in thurles

come on the rebels

corcaigh abu

[Lamps]

apart from Hero the team aint bad, backline is very light but you can get away with that on a sunny summers day in thurles.

ronan, naughton and timmy make a decent bench for the forwards.

we can do it

[cheeky]

Keep telling yourself that

[RonnyB]

Keep telling yourself that

If Waterford fail to win on Sunday then they can wave goodbye to any hope of winning an All Ireland.

IMO 2005 was a great chance for them to win it. They had Cork rattled above in Croke Park and couldnt finish the job, while they would have had the beating of the remaining teams.

[Rebelred]

Keep telling yourself that

Waterford are currently no more than a less successful reincarnation of Clare in the 1990's... at least Clare won two All Irelands during their purple patch!
The pressure is on this Waterford team and they haven't handled it well in the past, who's to say they'll handle it well this year?

[mithrandir]

How will Cian O Connor do full-back? I've never seen him playing here.

[RonnyB]

How will Cian O Connor do full-back? I've never seen him playing here.

Played there in the league & won an All-Ireland minor medal at fullback. Its a hard one to call.

I'd have been tempted to throw John Gardiner in there.

[Rebelred]

Played there in the league & won an All-Ireland minor medal at fullback. Its a hard one to call.

I'd have been tempted to throw John Gardiner in there.

O'Connor will be fine once he keeps it simple. Putting Gardiner in there would have weakened the most important line we have too much I think

[RonnyB]

O'Connor will be fine once he keeps it simple. Putting Gardiner in there would have weakened the most important line we have too much I think

Thats true too, as little change as possible is probably the best thing.

[cheeky]

AS little change as possible thats a bit difficult considering!

:D

[STEVIEG]

AS little change as possible thats a bit difficult considering!

:D

Hence, him saying as little change as possible!

I think Cork will still win, don't think Waterford will have the bottle with being potential favourites-the rebel siege mentality will be in full effect and we will win! (I hope:)) Should be a great game!

[Coin]

let this game begin, even before this match has even started were down 3 exceptional players, but so what, have a look who's gonna come in, IMO shane o neill, kevin Hartnett and on goal martin coleman.

we the cork fans have to travel in force again to thurles to get behind our team once more, we the cork fans have be shouting and roaring till there is no air in our lungs left.

we have to rise to this occasion, we've won 50 Munster titles, 30 all Ireland's but this match means much more, the gaa are trying to upset us with suspending the 3 three lads, big fucking mistake, they've pissed us off now and i know the rest of the lads on the panel will fight for every single ball, they will fight like there lives depended on it, when they put on that red n white jersey there not playing for cloyne,piarsaigh,eri ns own or newtown etc etc. there playing for cork, this jersey means so much to them, to us, the cork gaa fans we're like the 16th man to cork hurlers, were up against it this Sunday but we have to be hungry this Sunday we have to put everything into this match, were playing a team who we know very well and IMO a team i hate more than Dublin, these shower of knackers are going to thurles thinking they've won the last 6 all Ireland's, there an ignorant cocky bunch of scumbags and we the cork fans have to quieten them on Sunday

come on the rebels

lets go for 3 in a row Munster titles

corcaigh abu
Are you Jon Kenny?

[megatron]

Are you Jon Kenny?

???????????

[AmadeusDC]

let this game begin, even before this match has even started were down 3 exceptional players, but so what, have a look who's gonna come in, IMO shane o neill, kevin Hartnett and on goal martin coleman.

we the cork fans have to travel in force again to thurles to get behind our team once more, we the cork fans have be shouting and roaring till there is no air in our lungs left.

we have to rise to this occasion, we've won 50 Munster titles, 30 all Ireland's but this match means much more, the gaa are trying to upset us with suspending the 3 three lads, big fucking mistake, they've pissed us off now and i know the rest of the lads on the panel will fight for every single ball, they will fight like there lives depended on it, when they put on that red n white jersey there not playing for cloyne,piarsaigh,eri ns own or newtown etc etc. there playing for cork, this jersey means so much to them, to us, the cork gaa fans we're like the 16th man to cork hurlers, were up against it this Sunday but we have to be hungry this Sunday we have to put everything into this match, were playing a team who we know very well and IMO a team i hate more than Dublin, these shower of knackers are going to thurles thinking they've won the last 6 all Ireland's, there an ignorant cocky bunch of scumbags and we the cork fans have to quieten them on Sunday

come on the rebels

lets go for 3 in a row Munster titles

corcaigh abu

If he had been this up for the clash with the Autobots, Optimus Prime and company would have never stood a chance!!!

-AmadeusDC-

[RonnyB]

AS little change as possible thats a bit difficult considering!

:D

Oh yes how the blahs bitched when Mullane missed the '04 semi-final against Kilkenny. Short memories.

If Waterford win on Sunday I think they'll be praying to avoid Cork later on in the Championship. Motivation was a lot of Cork peoples worries with regards the All Ireland attempt. Now they've been handed plenty of it.

It was like Waterford last year against Tipp, weakened in Munster they gained revenge when it was knock-out.

[Rebelred]

It was like Waterford last year against Tipp, weakened in Munster they gained revenge when it was knock-out.

You could very well get that scenario happening again, with Waterford and Cork meeting at the 1/4 final stage this year. Can't wait for sunday now, have been listening to a waterford woman going on and on about them beating us out the gate for the past 2 weeks, would love to shut her up with a win on sunday!

[RonnyB]

You could very well get that scenario happening again, with Waterford and Cork meeting at the 1/4 final stage this year. Can't wait for sunday now, have been listening to a waterford woman going on and on about them beating us out the gate for the past 2 weeks, would love to shut her up with a win on sunday!

I know a couple of Waterford lads who are sound enough but are completely blinkered when it comes to hurling. They think their Eoin Kelly is a better hurler than Ben O'Connor. And wait for it, that Mullane is the best corner forward in Ireland because he requires such close attention.

Then I just mentioned the names Deane, the real Eoin Kelly, even Paul O'Flynn not to mention Kilkenny's reasources in the forwards.

[bduffman]

Oh yes how the blahs bitched when Mullane missed the '04 semi-final against Kilkenny. Short memories.

If Waterford win on Sunday I think they'll be praying to avoid Cork later on in the Championship. Motivation was a lot of Cork peoples worries with regards the All Ireland attempt. Now they've been handed plenty of it.

It was like Waterford last year against Tipp, weakened in Munster they gained revenge when it was knock-out.


Are you langers serious??? When Mullane was suspended in 04 he took the punishment & didn't whinge like you lot. And he wasn't even caught on camera as clearly as the Cork & Clare players were (even though he was black & blue after the game from the punishment he got). While the whole thing has been blown out of all proportion, if you are caught on camera you have to pay the price.
I think Waterford would prefer a full strength Cork team anyway so there won't be any more whinging if you're beaten.

[Rebelred]

Are you langers serious??? When Mullane was suspended in 04 he took the punishment & didn't whinge like you lot. And he wasn't even caught on camera as clearly as the Cork & Clare players were (even though he was black & blue after the game from the punishment he got). While the whole thing has been blown out of all proportion, if you are caught on camera you have to pay the price.
I think Waterford would prefer a full strength Cork team anyway so there won't be any more whinging if you're beaten.

Geraghty was caught on camera and he hasn't paid a price. Dirty Dara was caught on camera stamping on Nicholas Murphy in the All Ireland Semi final last year, he wasn't suspended either. The main problem we have here is that there is absolutely NO CONSISTENCY from the GAA in relation to off the ball incidents and scraps like this.
Frank Lohan was seen by all and sundry to ram his hurley into Donal Og Cusack to start the whole scrap, was he cited, no! The whole thing is a shambles. They may aswell have stuck all the players names into a hat and drawn out 4 from each side to suspend, they'd probably have been more accurate.

By the way, the phrase "he wasn't caught as clearly" blows away any defence of Mullane in 04 as he was still caught on camera.

You'll also notice if you'd care to have a proper look around, that people aren't whinging about the suspensions, merely how they have been handed down and how the authorities that be have dealt so awfully with this whole affair. 3 weeks later and still no definite resolution.

[bduffman]

I agree there no consistency in the GAA. But the Cork players could follow the example that Mullane showed & not appeal if they did something wrong - which they obviously did. As far as I can see the argument is 'they got away with it so why shouldn't we?' This martyr stuff shown by Cork & Clare is getting a bit tiresome at this stage.

[dotty]

Geraghty was caught on camera and he hasn't paid a price. Dirty Dara was caught on camera stamping on Nicholas Murphy in the All Ireland Semi final last year, he wasn't suspended either. The main problem we have here is that there is absolutely NO CONSISTENCY from the GAA in relation to off the ball incidents and scraps like this.
Frank Lohan was seen by all and sundry to ram his hurley into Donal Og Cusack to start the whole scrap, was he cited, no! The whole thing is a shambles. They may aswell have stuck all the players names into a hat and drawn out 4 from each side to suspend, they'd probably have been more accurate.

By the way, the phrase "he wasn't caught as clearly" blows away any defence of Mullane in 04 as he was still caught on camera.

You'll also notice if you'd care to have a proper look around, that people aren't whinging about the suspensions, merely how they have been handed down and how the authorities that be have dealt so awfully with this whole affair. 3 weeks later and still no definite resolution.

exactly,peoples grievances with the situation isnt the actual suspensions,its the farcical length of time it took for them to be handed down and the complete and utter lack of consistency that exists in the sanctioning of disciplinary action.

[RonnyB]

I agree there no consistency in the GAA. But the Cork players could follow the example that Mullane showed & not appeal if they did something wrong - which they obviously did. As far as I can see the argument is 'they got away with it so why shouldn't we?' This martyr stuff shown by Cork & Clare is getting a bit tiresome at this stage.

By the fact that you by comparied the incident to Mullane using the butt of his hurley to strike an opponant right in front of an official, it tells me you havnt a clue. Mullane hadnt a leg to stand on with regards an appeal. There would have been uproar if he was let off both in Cork and Kilkenny.

Edit: Waterford can hardly claim injustice with Mullane either when you consider how none of their players (and I think most GAA supporters who know what they're on about will be able to say which player exactly I'm referring to) were punished for an off the ball incident in the '02 AI semi-final against Clare which left one of their players (cant remember who now again its either O'Grady or Quinn) with a broken hand ruling him out of the final.

[bduffman]

Whos claiming an injustice regarding Mullane? He got caught, got sent off & served a ban without an appeal. That was fair & the punishment was accepted.
Don't forget, no player got sent off in the Cork-Clare match so a suspension for the following match was the least they could have got. If they were sent off on the day as well, only then would it have matched Mullanes punishment. A number of players could be seen using the butts of their hurleys so if anything some of them were lucky not to be sent off on the day.

[mithrandir]

Better the butt of the hurley than a glass I suppose ;)

[RonnyB]

Whos claiming an injustice regarding Mullane? He got caught, got sent off & served a ban without an appeal. That was fair & the punishment was accepted.
Don't forget, no player got sent off in the Cork-Clare match so a suspension for the following match was the least they could have got. If they were sent off on the day as well, only then would it have matched Mullanes punishment. A number of players could be seen using the butts of their hurleys so if anything some of them were lucky not to be sent off on the day.

Well child neither team could have players sent off when there was no referee present.

You compared the suspensions Cork got & their reactions to that of Mullane. Well guess what it appears that the players are accepting them just like he did despite they gross inconsistancy of the GAA & CCC (the latter which wasn't set up in '04)

Back to my 1st point, would the referee have sent off 7 players? I doubt it very much. He only ticked Niall Gilligan for a head high challenge on Jerry O'Connor so I doubt a bit of shoving and pushing would have warrented more.

As for players using hurleys in their conflict the was no one injured to the extent of medical attention required unlike Brian Murphy's case.

Now we'll look at Cork main gripes with this as well as some of Clare's.

1. I dont think many would argue that 1 or 2 suspensions wer'nt merited (sp?) after this incident. Its not acceptable behaviour. But for 7 players to be caught (8 if the CCC didnt fuck up John Gardiner's apparant fighting footage) is wayover the top.

2. Offaly & Laois the same day had a similar incident. 2 bookings were the maximum punishment. Why? Because the ref was seeing to have dealt with it. Now we know the CCC can ask the ref's are they happy with the punishment originally handed out. I think in this case the ref was spot on to be honest even though a red card for each team wouldnt have been too harsh.

3. We know video footage is used in these cases and as already stated by yours truly and Kevin McStay, refs are (or should I say can be) contacted in relation to controversial incidents. Now a certain wannabe Meath politician had 2 little pucnhes to an opponants head. Free kicks are awarded by the ref. If he was happy with that in hindsight then he should never be allowed ref again like a Cork referee Michael Collins from Clonakilty more or less seems to have had imposed on himself by GAA HQ for sending of Peter Canavan 2 years ago.

Now if the referee wasn't happy and felt he should have taken more action then the CCC can present him with a chance to do so. Did they? I believe no and covered up the case by saying 'he awarded frees'.

4. A Mr. Reale from Limerick and a Mr. Kelly from TIpp flaked each other with hurleys last Sunday. Bookings were recieved for each slap. One player comitted the offence twice. Another booking. A red card. All he misses was the remaining 50 minutes of the match and can lead his side out on Saturday despite intentionally trying to injure an opponant.

I think points 1-4 tell us why we are pissed off with the GAA. If you want further examples then I can go back to last years stupidity in having two senior Cork teams playing in Dublin on the same weekend but on different days forcing the fans who travel outside their county for matches at a more frequent rate than the rest of the country to cough up more cash.

[cheeky]

Brian Murphy was told to stay down by another cork player "we have them today "

Mullane got sent off and got his punishment

Pity the cork county board and players can't accept the wrong and focus on the game insted

Hey what goes round comes round ;)

[RonnyB]

Brian Murphy was told to stay down by another cork player "we have them today "


Brian Murphy is known to suffer from double vision and in fact its the reason he last 20 minutes in that years AI Final. I dont think too many would be rushing to get up if you got the butt of the hurley in the head.

Also who is the other Cork player who told him to stay down?

Mullane took his punishment but so are the Cork players despite the obvious flaws in the case.

[Rebelred]

Brian Murphy was told to stay down by another cork player "we have them today "

Mullane got sent off and got his punishment

Pity the cork county board and players can't accept the wrong and focus on the game insted

Hey what goes round comes round ;)
Ye blah's really don't listen. The players will serve the suspensions but the whole process is such a shambles the board have every right to appeal the rulings!

As for the Brian Murphy comment,you had a microphone there and can prove that I take it?

[cheeky]

Roll on Sunday and Good luch with your little appeal AGAIN tonight


What a mess!

[Rebelred]

Roll on Sunday and Good luch with your little appeal AGAIN tonight


What a mess!

by the way, tonight is the first appeal.

[RonnyB]

Roll on Sunday and Good luch with your little appeal AGAIN tonight


What a mess!

is that meant to be good luck or good lunch??

If all ye blahs have teeth like Ken McGrath & Dan Shanahan then its hard for normal folk to understand what ye spout on about.

[bduffman]

by the way, tonight is the first appeal.

But I thought you said they were accepting their suspensions???

[bduffman]

If all ye blahs have teeth like Ken McGrath & Dan Shanahan then its hard for normal folk to understand what ye spout on about.[/QUOTE]

Well I suppose its hard to keep a full set of teeth when you've played Cork so much

[RonnyB]

Well I suppose its hard to keep a full set of teeth when you've played Cork so much

Come back to me when our centre back breaks an opponants hand off the ball and gets away with it.

[Rebelred]

But I thought you said they were accepting their suspensions???

the county board are appealing, presumably the suspensions will be upheld though,due to the publicity surrounding the whole thing. The players themselves have not spoken a word about the whole thing, which is the correct thing to do.

The Waterford team for sunday:

C. Hennessy;
E. Murphy, D. Prendergast, J. Murray;
T. Browne, K. McGrath, A. Kearney;
M. Walsh, S. Molumphy;
D. Shanahan, S. Prendergast, E. Kelly;
J. Kennedy, P. Flynn, J. Mullane.

how fit is Paul Flynn I wonder?

[Lamps]

To be fair to them, that's some forward line.

[megatron]

expect dan the spa be put in full forward after the first puck out

[Mr. Monty]

But I thought you said they were accepting their suspensions???

Lets not forget Nickey "knacker" Brennan's part in it too...
"Its a real big test for the new disciplinary procedures... etc. etc."

He should resign after interfering like that when he should be completely
impartial as President.

Brennan Out!!!

Any room for Frank Murphy???

[Mr. Monty]

The Langers have turned down the appeal. Time for Jim Forbes to
resign from that board methinks. How can he act with those langers
when they do something like that...

[BlueSkies]

So lads, who's heading to Thurles? I wouldn't miss it for the world. Fuck soccer, this is what sport is all about.

[LawrenceSummers]

the count.....

how fit is Paul Flynn I wonder?

hes a ride

[mushypea]

Im heading up this evening - don't wanna be late for the match!

But seriously....heading up for a session tonight- should be good craic with all the matches on!

I can be found tomorrow in Mickey Hickeys....:cool:

[Langer Dan]

Im heading up this evening - don't wanna be late for the match!

But seriously....heading up for a session tonight- should be good craic with all the matches on!

I can be found tomorrow in Mickey Hickeys....:cool:

try not to get beaten to death

[mushypea]

try not to get beaten to death

This mush will be grand

[RonnyB]

The Langers have turned down the appeal. Time for Jim Forbes to
resign from that board methinks. How can he act with those langers
when they do something like that...

No he should stay on with them. Theres a long summer there yet and a few other counties might need to go through the same processes as Cork have and it might be a case of what goes around comes around.

[the puerto rican feen]

watching on setanta, savage atmosphere

[optimus]

jesus nash has some puck off a ball

[liam2me]

jesus nash has some puck off a ball
he does indeed, so why the fuck does he insist on handpassing it from inside his 6 yard box, under no pressure, 2 yards to a defender only for him to hit it long anyway

[optimus]

nerves!!!!

[the puerto rican feen]

that free that paul flynn looked to be a fuckin freebie from the ref

couldn't really see the foul

[optimus]

fuckin deicean bastards

[the puerto rican feen]

off the cross bar in the last minute


ken mc grath is a classless cunt

[Loftydog]

Mullane is some knacker like. If i was Ronan curran i would have leathered the cunt

[liam2me]

Mullane is some knacker like. If i was Ronan curran i would have leathered the cunt
agreed, but sure he always was a knacker, leopards don't change their spots

[Annie Hall]

agreed, but sure he always was a knacker, leopards don't change their spots

How ironic...

[Superior]

What a game though. Just goes to show how much we missed the lads. Can't imagine Sully letting (some) of those players in for their goals. Still can't see Waterford winning Liam. Today was as good as it gets for them.
That Mullane...

[liam2me]

How ironic...
yer what?

[liam2me]

What a game though. Just goes to show how much we missed the lads. Can't imagine Sully letting (some) of those players in for their goals. Still can't see Waterford winning Liam. Today was as good as it gets for them.
That Mullane...
why you directing that at me? :?

[Forsberg]

why you directing that at me? :?


He wasn't directing it at you , Liam :p

[liam2me]

He wasn't directing it at you , Liam :p
ahhh, fitzy on my part

[Superior]

ahhh, fitzy on my part

Ego maniac. :razz:

[liam2me]

Ego maniac. :razz:
yup lol

[wayne gayle]

Seeing as the GAA banned three of our players because they set a bad example for kids, will they now ban Knackerhead Mullane for throwing a sliotar at a crowd of Cork kids (as seen on TV today)?
Also a word about Eoin Kelly taunting the Cork support after his goal:we'll see you again biy.
Justin, you are also a shithead of the highest order, pretending you couldn't hear when the RTE beoure asked you if you thought the suspended players affected the result. You know well it did, you just couldn't bear to admit you only beat an understrength Cork team thanks to the width of a crossbar.
Fuck off Deise wankers.

[west cork rebel]

It was a great game, a good point of this game is that we had the chance to blood a few young players, Deano looks as good as ever, just sadly our luck was right out, it started with missing the big 3, then loosing Nial McCarthy was not so good either, but I can't see Waterford wining the Munster, Limerick/Tipp will beat them.

[wayne gayle]

It was a great game, a good point of this game is that we had the chance to blood a few young players, Deano looks as good as ever, just sadly our luck was right out, it started with missing the big 3, then loosing Nial McCarthy was not so good either, but I can't see Waterford wining the Munster, Limerick/Tipp will beat them.

Actually I don't think it was a great game at all, as that insufferable twit Marty fucking Morrissey and that knob Michael Duignan kept saying.
Just 'cause there were loads of goals automatically makes it a great game which is bull. There was a lot of poor defending, fumbling and foolaling.

[roasty]

it was an unreal game..tats wat makes good games lik....if nobody ever made a mistake then it wud just b boring.... entertainment n hurling 10 outta 10...d pace of the game was frightning

[Forsberg]

it was an unreal game..tats wat makes good games lik....if nobody ever made a mistake then it wud just b boring.... entertainment n hurling 10 outta 10...d pace of the game was frightning


Why did you use txt speak for the first "the" and then proper english for the second?

[Annie Hall]

Seeing as the GAA banned three of our players because they set a bad example for kids, will they now ban Knackerhead Mullane for throwing a sliotar at a crowd of Cork kids (as seen on TV today)?
Also a word about Eoin Kelly taunting the Cork support after his goal:we'll see you again biy.
Justin, you are also a shithead of the highest order, pretending you couldn't hear when the RTE beoure asked you if you thought the suspended players affected the result. You know well it did, you just couldn't bear to admit you only beat an understrength Cork team thanks to the width of a crossbar.
Fuck off Deise wankers.

Sore, are we? ;)

[Some user]

Actually I don't think it was a great game at all, as that insufferable twit Marty fucking Morrissey and that knob Michael Duignan kept saying.
Just 'cause there were loads of goals automatically makes it a great game which is bull. There was a lot of poor defending, fumbling and foolaling.

It was a great game and a pity Cork lost. How many times the the lead change for example?! It was nail biting shit. I was enjoying it so much I didnt want it to end.

It was frantic shit, superb skill, physicality, sublime points, super subs. Cant believe Im defending Marty Morrisey but to say it wasnt a great game is, at best, idiotic.

[Some user]

Furthermore that was the virtual Munster final today. Cork and Waterford are streets ahead of Limerick and Tipp. The difference in first touch atoday compared to the game last night was massive.

[mushypea]

Was at the game today - heart attack stuff. I think Nash did well. There wasn't much he could have done to stop those goals. The backs were in dire straits, and Brian Murphy was cleaned out.
Curran didn't touch a ball in the first half but excelled in the second half. We were lost when the two boys went off injured.
Fraggy has found his feet and looks very comfortable in full forward.
And Deano was back to his magic best.

However, the Blaa's were the better team today and I have no qualms in saying that. Big Dan, Prendergast and dare I say it Mullane were on tip top form. They looked like a team filled with confidence on the back of their league triumph over the Cats.

So Cork lost today....we were found out. This in my opinion is not a bad thing. New players were blooded, whether we will see them again is another thing. We will learn a great deal from today, and hopefully we will come back stronger.

Ok...preaching over. There were 3 ould lads behind me in the terrace, to say that it was running commentary is putting it lightly....they had every member from 1-15 subsitutted three times over! and each one went from hero to villian in seconds!!
I was fit to kill them! :oops:

[PatMan]

Sore, are ye? ;)

Not at'all... on the day, the team with the most points won.
But if ye really think that performance was enough to get ye any further - dream on!
We were so "exposed/rattled" at the back it was cringe-worthy. FFS, we have done and won via the 'back-door' before, and with this strength in the panel, we can do it again

[roasty]

Why did you use txt speak for the first "the" and then proper english for the second?

i havent a clue being honest..sorry:cry: its strange alri though

[bricktop]

Seeing as the GAA banned three of our players because they set a bad example for kids, will they now ban Knackerhead Mullane for throwing a sliotar at a crowd of Cork kids (as seen on TV today)?
Also a word about Eoin Kelly taunting the Cork support after his goal:we'll see you again biy.
Justin, you are also a shithead of the highest order, pretending you couldn't hear when the RTE beoure asked you if you thought the suspended players affected the result. You know well it did, you just couldn't bear to admit you only beat an understrength Cork team thanks to the width of a crossbar.
Fuck off Deise wankers.
I saw that incident.Kelly, quite the dickhead.
Must be a Waterford thing.

[MonTheHoops]

it was an unreal game..tats wat makes good games lik....if nobody ever made a mistake then it wud just b boring.... entertainment n hurling 10 outta 10...d pace of the game was frightning


What does this collection of symbols represent?

At the game. Plus points - Kevin Hartnett, Pat Cronin.

[RonnyB]

Waterford deserve credit for their 2nd half performance. In recent years a Cork team coming back at them from a wide margin would have pressed on to win. Not yesterday.

Mullane for me finally showed his worth yesterday. Until then I have said he was all hype & little actual class but he was a deserving MOTM. Also Dan the man really is the man. Showed Kelly how to celebrate a goal by looking towards his own. Kelly really is a bollocks and if I was down that side of the terrace I;d have lost the head. But I suppose if we dish it out we have to take it.

On the Cork side of things the suspended 3 were missed. Sully because the full back line was taken to the cleaners and the other 2 for leadership & experience needs. Their replacements done themselves no harm at all though.

Hero has to be dropped. That effort he missed yesterday when no one on him from the 45 was woeful. When Timmy is fully fit he has to come back into it as well as Naughton not being far away. Neil Ronan is better I think in the full forward line.

On the penalty I'd have let Nash smack it. The guy has an unreal strike of a ball I'd imagine they wouldnt have stopped it.

Fraggie and Deano looked very threatening and Pa Cronin was excellent under the high ball. He will only get better IMO.

Overall I enjoyed a great game and I took a huge amount of heart out of it even though Cork came up just a bit short in the end.

[Lamps]

Too depressed to talk about it and the heads a bit sore so here's probably a few random points. I tried, I really did, to be philosphical about the whole thing going up, but then you bump into these c*nts who think they've forty all irelands in the bag and you just want to hammer em.

The backline were too small, all nifty hurlers, but the one thing you don't want to meet is 6 foot 3 inch physical players. You couldn't blame Waterford for moving these guys between the smaller cork players.

The loss of Niall Mc and Tom Kenny in particular was just too much in the end. At one stage the team on the field must have been short 7 or 8 who would be considered starters. That we were still in contention bodes very well for us.

When taking a penalty, I believe you get the man with the best technique to do it. Ben has great skill, but Curran has better technique and striking. Although I'd agree with Ronny that Nash could have done it too

Finally Hero, he's just no good enough. His decison making is way too slow, his striking is too slow. He is not intercounty standard and is about a million miles from being the first name on the team sheet which appears is the case. Its hard enough winning all irelands without having passengers. It cost us last year and it'll cost us even more this year.

ps The forwards did themselves proud yesterday. Pat Cronin caught some mighty ball in the second half and I'd like to see him develop into a full forward, with Naughton coming in on the wing.

[BangorFeen]

Too depressed to talk about it and the heads a bit sore so here's probably a few random points. I tried, I really did, to be philosphical about the whole thing going up, but then you bump into these c*nts who think they've forty all irelands in the bag and you just want to hammer em.

The backline were too small, all nifty hurlers, but the one thing you don't want to meet is 6 foot 3 inch physical players. You couldn't blame Waterford for moving these guys between the smaller cork players.

The loss of Niall Mc and Tom Kenny in particular was just too much in the end. At one stage the team on the field must have been short 7 or 8 who would be considered starters. That we were still in contention bodes very well for us.

When taking a penalty, I believe you get the man with the best technique to do it. Ben has great skill, but Curran has better technique and striking. Although I'd agree with Ronny that Nash could have done it too

Finally Hero, he's just no good enough. His decison making is way too slow, his striking is too slow. He is not intercounty standard and is about a million miles from being the first name on the team sheet which appears is the case. Its hard enough winning all irelands without having passengers. It cost us last year and it'll cost us even more this year.

ps The forwards did themselves proud yesterday. Pat Cronin caught some mighty ball in the second half and I'd like to see him develop into a full forward, with Naughton coming in on the wing.
All good points, Lamps but as the man says, we aren't dead yet. If this match and the qualifiers allows us more time to get Pa Cronin and some of the newer lads a bit more experience then so be it. There isn't anyone in the qualifiers we should fear.

What in the name of Jeebus was McCarthy doing leaving a clearly unfit B. Murphy on the field for 35 minutes though?

[Lamps]

What in the name of Jeebus was McCarthy doing leaving a clearly unfit B. Murphy on the field for 35 minutes though?

we were down to the bare bones. I know it would have been a long shot but I'd have chanced Graham Callinan to break timber off Cross Eyes Dan. Shane Murphy was not the man either. The Erins Own thing is a bit worrying

Even though I'm dissapointed, its lifting already. We're still in this thing and have learned a hell of a lot about our players. Fraggie has nailed down his place.

[BangorFeen]

we were down to the bare bones. I know it would have been a long shot but I'd have chanced Graham Callinan to break timber off Cross Eyes Dan. Shane Murphy was not the man either. The Erins Own thing is a bit worrying

Even though I'm dissapointed, its lifting already. We're still in this thing and have learned a hell of a lot about our players. Fraggie has nailed down his place.
That he has. Look at it this way. We know we've arguably the best set of first-choice backs in the country but we've struggled to find forwards to match them (I felt sorry for Timmy yesterday BTW) Pa Cronin and Kieran Murphyeile have seriously put their hands up and both give options that were not there before. It's no coincidence IMO that Deano had his best game in a long while because the Waaaaherfurt backs were shitting themselves under the high ball being played to the two lasds as much as our lads were at the other end. Sure it's a bitch to lose to Waterford, especially with the attitude of them but Septmeber is a long way off yet and I didn't see anything from them (and this was them at their best) to imply the can take KK all things being equal.

[Sound]

Echoing much of what's already said to be honest. There was a DOS shaped hole in the middle that Waterford just waltzed through. There was a very telling shot taken from behind Dan Shanahan with him hulking over the whole back line. Physical mismatched all-round.

The forwards were a serious bright spot. It gladdened the heart to see some direct ball for a change and it'll be interesting to see what happens when Donal Og comes back.

[Lamps]

In theory we may have stumbled upon something here. Couple our direct ball to our new fast forwards with the best 1-9 in the country and new life could be breathed into this team.

However it is imperative Ronan, TimmyMac and Naughton jump the queue ahead of Hero.

[KolaKubes]

we were down to the bare bones. I know it would have been a long shot but I'd have chanced Graham Callinan to break timber off Cross Eyes Dan. Shane Murphy was not the man either. The Erins Own thing is a bit worrying

Even though I'm dissapointed, its lifting already. We're still in this thing and have learned a hell of a lot about our players. Fraggie has nailed down his place.

Always really nice hurlers but not exactly the toughest. I remember coming off pitches underage having sneaked past them (the very odd time, mind) and you'd almost feel like you hadn't proved much mullacking better players out of it. Bit surprised they've crystallised into a Senior County winning side to cut mustard.

Your man Cronin was very good yesterday I thought.

[BangorFeen]

In theory we may have stumbled upon something here. Couple our direct ball to our new fast forwards with the best 1-9 in the country and new life could be breathed into this team.

However it is imperative Ronan, TimmyMac and Naughton jump the queue ahead of Hero.
A mix and match attack of solo runs from the two midfielders with the forwards running into the gaps combined with the boys profiting off the high ball (or Deano getting the breaking ball) is certainly the bones of an extremely potent attack, something we've lacked...

[Lamps]

Always really nice hurlers but not exactly the toughest. I remember coming off pitches underage having sneaked past them (the very odd time, mind) and you'd almost feel like you hadn't proved much mullacking better players out of it. Bit surprised they've crystallised into a Senior County winning side to cut mustard.

Your man Cronin was very good yesterday I thought.

You can be a good team in the county and not have any great players and likewise like Cloyne or Piaraigh, have four or 5 really top players but not have the balance.

I wouldn't have a single EO man on that team.

[KolaKubes]

You can be a good team in the county and not have any great players and likewise like Cloyne or Piaraigh, have four or 5 really top players but not have the balance.

I wouldn't have a single EO man on that team.

Fair point. I mean, Grenagh aren't exactly banging down the doors of the Senior County but they've provided us with a player who's almost a peerless athlete. The tracking back for the goal chance where he got injured was phenomenal.

Although, mind, shows you what they reckoned about the full back line's solidity further up the field.

[RonnyB]

I wouldn't have a single EO man on that team.

All going according to plan I wouldnt either. Even now I think Shane O'Neill could be a better option than Cian O'Connor. Hero shouldnt be on the panel never mind being captain. I thought he just lacked brains but his ability isn't great at all. Good club player but thats all.

I've heard though that Bowen has a big influence and is the most 'trustworthy' for want of a much better word of the selectors.

[seoul shaka]

Still I think cork found out so much about themselves yesterday than they would have in normal circumstances. A draw would have taken a lot of Cork and can you imagine having to face a rabid Limerick (or tipp) after that? Think I read somewhere that no team in munster has beaten 3 of the big 5 in the munster c'ship in the same year and gone on to win an all-ireland. I'm sure someone will provide an instance of it.

64 mins before Naughton came on. Instant impact though. Think they said yesterday that Brick Walsh was the first captain nominated by the management in Waterford (instead of county champions). Could it provide another headache for cork selectors as the year goes on?

[bduffman]

That he has. Look at it this way. We know we've arguably the best set of first-choice backs in the country but we've struggled to find forwards to match them (I felt sorry for Timmy yesterday BTW) Pa Cronin and Kieran Murphyeile have seriously put their hands up and both give options that were not there before. It's no coincidence IMO that Deano had his best game in a long while because the Waaaaherfurt backs were shitting themselves under the high ball being played to the two lasds as much as our lads were at the other end. Sure it's a bitch to lose to Waterford, especially with the attitude of them but Septmeber is a long way off yet and I didn't see anything from them (and this was them at their best) to imply the can take KK all things being equal.

Waterford at their best?? Eoin Murphy had a stinker, Eoin Kelly, Tony Brown & Paul Flynn (all All Stars) played well within themselves. Waterford could have had a couple more goals. They only scored 15 points - well below their average. Theres plenty more to come from both those teams & they're going to have to meet again at some stage anyway.

[mithrandir]

While I would love to play Waterford again I doubt if ye'll make it far enough.

[RonnyB]

Waterford at their best?? Eoin Murphy had a stinker, Eoin Kelly, Tony Brown & Paul Flynn (all All Stars) played well within themselves. Waterford could have had a couple more goals. They only scored 15 points - well below their average. Theres plenty more to come from both those teams & they're going to have to meet again at some stage anyway.

15 points below yer average? Taking into account it was Cork ye played

2002 - 1-16
2003 - 3-12
2004 - 3-16
2005 - 2-15 1-13
2006 - 1-15

Thats an average of 14.5 points against Cork in the last 5 years. Stop Waterford scoring goals and you'll stop Waterford I think.

Cork could easily have more goals as well. The penalty, the last minute effort, Joe Deane took a point when goal was on, likewise Jerry O'Connor, Hero's brutal miss for point in the 1st half and the frees Ben & Gah missed just after half time.

For as bad as Eoin Murphy was, Brian Murphy was worse. A quarter of the game was played with a make shift full back line. Cork can take plenty out of that game yesterday. They'll get a good challenge in Tipp or Limerick and the new fellas getting game time will only stand to them.

[Sound]

There was a great bit of banter between the analysts in the Turbine on Sunday. Hayes reckoned that those who claim hurling to be the pinnacle of the gaelic games would get a rude awakening when the viewing figures for the Munster semi and WrestleMeathia II were compared today.

I was at home watching the hurling and switched to the football when time allowed- what a contrast! The proverbial shit on a stick being served up at HQ made a stellar game of hurling look even better.

There's no accounting for taste in this country.

[Lamps]

There was a great bit of banter between the analysts in the Turbine on Sunday. Hayes reckoned that those who claim hurling to be the pinnacle of the gaelic games would get a rude awakening when the viewing figures for the Munster semi and WrestleMeathia II were compared today.

I was at home watching the hurling and switched to the football when time allowed- what a contrast! The proverbial shit on a stick being served up at HQ made a stellar game of hurling look even better.

There's no accounting for taste in this country.

Should be interesting to see the figures alright. Hayes is a clown, he wouldn't be out of place at the Sindo

[bduffman]

15 points below yer average? Taking into account it was Cork ye played

2002 - 1-16
2003 - 3-12
2004 - 3-16
2005 - 2-15 1-13
2006 - 1-15

Thats an average of 14.5 points against Cork in the last 5 years. Stop Waterford scoring goals and you'll stop Waterford I think.

Cork could easily have more goals as well. The penalty, the last minute effort, Joe Deane took a point when goal was on, likewise Jerry O'Connor, Hero's brutal miss for point in the 1st half and the frees Ben & Gah missed just after half time.

For as bad as Eoin Murphy was, Brian Murphy was worse. A quarter of the game was played with a make shift full back line. Cork can take plenty out of that game yesterday. They'll get a good challenge in Tipp or Limerick and the new fellas getting game time will only stand to them.

And how do you plan to stop Waterford scoring goals? With your usual back line? Hasn't worked in the past has it?

[Sound]

And how do you plan to stop Waterford scoring goals? With your usual back line? Hasn't worked in the past has it?

That would carry a lot more weight if this much vaunted front line had a single AI medal.

Bless.

[legend76]

15 points below yer average? Taking into account it was Cork ye played

2002 - 1-16
2003 - 3-12
2004 - 3-16
2005 - 2-15 1-13
2006 - 1-15

Thats an average of 14.5 points against Cork in the last 5 years. Stop Waterford scoring goals and you'll stop Waterford I think.

Cork could easily have more goals as well. The penalty, the last minute effort, Joe Deane took a point when goal was on, likewise Jerry O'Connor, Hero's brutal miss for point in the 1st half and the frees Ben & Gah missed just after half time.

For as bad as Eoin Murphy was, Brian Murphy was worse. A quarter of the game was played with a make shift full back line. Cork can take plenty out of that game yesterday. They'll get a good challenge in Tipp or Limerick and the new fellas getting game time will only stand to them.

I have to agree with you there, all in all I'm taking an awful lot of positives from yesterday. A better performance from the Forwards than I expected.

P.s. did anyone see Oige , The Rock and Donal óg walking into to town side by side after the game??

[mr m]

Incredible Game. Don't think I have ever been as positive leaving after a Cork Defeat.
Yesterday was proof that there are very few players in the modern game that can dominate the square like Sully. Brian murph was obviously a gamble that didn't pay off and there was no Sean og to take Dan the man out of it. Chicken head and Dan were awesome but don't feel they would have got the run of the pitch as easily had Cork a full team especially with all the injuries to key players during the game.
Great to see Cronin come of age especially in the second half. Could be a real player.
Hero will never be a forward but there are plenty of options to replace him. Surely he won't play the next day. All the other forwards were superb.
Cork are still very much in the championship.

[legend76]

Incredible Game. Don't think I have ever been as positive leaving after a Cork Defeat.
Yesterday was proof that there are very few players in the modern game that can dominate the square like Sully. Brian murph was obviously a gamble that didn't pay off and there was no Sean og to take Dan the man out of it. Chicken head and Dan were awesome but don't feel they would have got the run of the pitch as easily had Cork a full team especially with all the injuries to key players during the game.
Great to see Cronin come of age especially in the second half. Could be a real player.
Hero will be a forward but there are plenty of options to replace him. Surely he won't play the next day. All the other forwards were superb.
Cork are still very much in the championship.

I actually believe this more so after yesterday

[BangorFeen]

And how do you plan to stop Waterford scoring goals? With your usual back line? Hasn't worked in the past has it?
Doesn't seemed to have harmed us too much in the past either though has it?

[RonnyB]

And how do you plan to stop Waterford scoring goals? With your usual back line? Hasn't worked in the past has it?

When Cork score the same amount of goals as Waterford.

2002 - Waterford 1-16 Cork 1-15
2003 - Cork 3-16 Waterford 3-12 (again with a makeshift full back line)
2005 - Cork 2-17 Waterford 2-15, Cork 1-18 Waterford 1-13
2006 - Cork 1-16 Waterford 1-15

Thats 3 victories for Cork out of 4.

Going into any game against Waterford I feel if you stop the goals or indeed cancel them likewise, Cork should win. Dont think many teams in the last 5 years have scored more points than Cork when they play them. Its a good trait to have but sometimes its a drawback when you see Jerry bursting from midfield like yesterday. I thought there was a goal on for him.

Anyway if I was a Waterford man I'd be worried that a small fella like Fraggie Murphy caught a clean ball off yer full back line for the 1st goal.

[STEVIEG]

Two really entertaining games this weekend

Pity Cork couldn't equalise in the end but they looked vulnerable everytime Waterfords forwards came into play

Hopefully, they will meet again

[Lamps]

Two really entertaining games this weekend

Pity Cork couldn't equalise in the end but they looked vulnerable everytime Waterfords forwards came into play

Hopefully, they will meet again

well at least the Admirals won, every cloud eh?;)

On a more serious note, Sully, Donal Og and Sean Og will be bustin to get at this season. This will have put the fire in their bellies that was missing last year. I know myself that I haven't felt as wronged as this in a while. IMO the fire will be as big as it was in 2004 and they were truly men on a mission that they and blew Kilkenny away.

I'd be very very confident that we'd take waterford again, even moreso if its the final in Croker. I'd like a cut off the cats early this year.

Losing yesterday may have been the best thing for us.

[phuqdadubs]

losing by 3 points is nothing. We didn't see the best of Cork yesterday but we did see the best of Waterford. If we meet them again we'll take them no bother. Cork can only be stronger with the T3 back, Waterford have no room for improvement. I reckon KK would have inflicted greater damage yesterday if it was them we met

[STEVIEG]

well at least the Admirals won, every cloud eh?;)



Even when i rarely post here, like during the summer, i'm impressed by your obsession:)

I agree with the rest of your post though

[Lamps]

Even when i rarely post here, like during the summer, i'm impressed by your obsession:)

I agree with the rest of your post though

lighten up Stevie

[STEVIEG]

I'm only joking with ya:)

P.S. How come my name is spelt different in your two sigs?

[Lamps]

I'm only joking with ya:)

P.S. How come my name is spelt different in your two sigs?

Are you still lookin at them?:(

[STEVIEG]

Are you still lookin at them?:(

I only noticed it there!

[legend76]

Niall "FITZ" has a broken foot, out for 6 weeks
Tom Kenny out for a month

[mithrandir]

source?

[mushypea]

Niall "FITZ" has a broken foot, out for 6 weeks
Tom Kenny out for a month

whats this fitz thing about??

[KolaKubes]

whats this fitz thing about??

Mildly amusing pedantry.

[mushypea]

Mildly amusing pedantry.

apologies for the slowness - trying to read up on some crap for an informal interview at 8.15am.....fair interesting

[cheeky]

Oh Happy Days! What a fantastic game of hurling yesterday I don't think anyone will disagree on that.

One thing Id like to point out that Waterford were not at their best yesterday
and its funny when I hear the crossbar was the difference so was last year's semi final:D

Roll on Munster final ;)


Remember the throwing of the Hurley I'd call it rattled

[MonTheHoops]

At least he didn't throw it at the fans.

You're an odd team. There's guys like Ken McGrath, legends of their time, gentlemen on the pitch......and then there's toerags making gestures towards the crowd. You can't earn class, regardless of how many All Irelands you haven't won.

I would wish Waterford all the best for the rest of the Championship though, because we're more classy than spitting bile after the game.

And if you think that's not Waterford at their best yesterday, you're very mistaken. It's a long time since I remember Shanahan, Flynn and Mullane play so well in the one game.

[RonnyB]

Oh Happy Days! What a fantastic game of hurling yesterday I don't think anyone will disagree on that.

One thing Id like to point out that Waterford were not at their best yesterday
and its funny when I hear the crossbar was the difference so was last year's semi final:D

Roll on Munster final ;)


Remember the throwing of the Hurley I'd call it rattled

I've just watched it there and being honest it seemed much better actually at the game. It certainly was no 2004 for me. Very exciting all same though.

As for Waterford not being at their best I dunno. When is Mullane gonna roast a quality corner back the way he did yesterday again? Dan had his few goals to boot. Also Hartnett was taken to the cleaners by Prendergast.

As for the crossbar thing when did Waterford hit the bar in last years semi?? The certainly didnt do it in the last minute.

[cheeky]

what about murphy prendergast browne... don't they count believe me there only getting warmed up

this team want one thing this year and they won't stop till they get it the crossbar broke our hearts last year and that hurt is still there

the abuse that the cork supporters use is just poor disgusting and your the team that was a shame on the game of hurling two weeks ago and has 3 players out they deserve everything they get

the most important thing in sport is being to able to take defeat and when in the wrong stand up and take it

i take my hat off to a fantastic cork team but the better team won yesterday

[RonnyB]

what about murphy prendergast browne... don't they count believe me there only getting warmed up

this team want one thing this year and they won't stop till they get it the crossbar broke our hearts last year and that hurt is still there

the abuse that the cork supporters use is just poor disgusting and your the team that was a shame on the game of hurling two weeks ago and has 3 players out they deserve everything they get

the most important thing in sport is being to able to take defeat and when in the wrong stand up and take it

i take my hat off to a fantastic cork team but the better team won yesterday


What crossbar???

Waterford's full back line has always been their weakest area. Has it improved that much? Theres no way Fraggie should have caught a ball in the area clean out of the sky while not even jumping.

Dont talk about abusing Cork fans. The only time I was ashamed of being a Cork fan was the stuff I heard last year about Davy Fitz. Mullane gets abuse but we still remember his V-sign to us in 2003 and thats why more than anything. He was a journeyman until those 3 goals and wasn't even meant to start that particular match. Really showed his class didnt he in celebration.

Eoin Kelly's behaviour yesterday left a lot to be desired as well. They should take a leaf out of Dan the man's book and cheer with their own. Now theres a warrior of a man. I think V-signs and supporter taunting are bigger stains on the game than 10 fellas shouldering and pushing each other. Shur isn't that the stain on the game in yer county with years having fellas fighting non stop in club games?

Dont think us Cork supporters are begrudging Waterford their win. Clowns like you gloating wont win ye fans though. 9 posts since August last year all dealing with Cork Waterford games. Do ye even have yer own message board?

Finally what crossbar??

[cheeky]

Someone's not happy are we:D

[megatron]

Someone's not happy are we:D

do u actually believe waterford are gonna win the all ireland, do u actually think a knacker like john mullane or a scumbag like eoin kelly are gonna lift liam mac in september because if u do im gonna piss myself laughing, ye won a munster semi final yesterday and ye swear ye won the all ireland, u win fuck all in june kid, come back to us when ye win 3 in a row, come back to us when ye have a better record than cork, by the way how many times did ye actually win the all ireland twice i think, and remember the last time ye beat us in the championship in 2004 ye shat yourselves all over croke park when kilkenny beat the fuck out of ye, enjoy this victory because god fuckin help ye if ye meet us again in this years championship

come on the rebels

were down but were not out we did it in 2004 why not in 2007, bring on the dubs, offaly and either tipp or limerick

[cheeky]

Knacker and scum bags thats nice

Showing your colours alright

Shur look its our problem if we find ourself in a Munster final after a very close game against a great team and all Ireland Finalists last year

We're all aware of how many All Ireland's you have and we have and all the more reason why we want it but shur look we won the last 3 outings with yee and why not another one actually I think Cocoran might be a big loss cause you have beaten us since his gone

Really though knacker and scum bag is not very sporting now is it :)

[KolaKubes]

C'mere, best of luck to the Waterford lads. See Clare now, that's ye in a few years so soak it up while it lasts.

[cheeky]

soaking it all up;)

[KolaKubes]

soaking it all up;)

I mean that sincerely. Ye'll regret it otherwise.

[cheeky]

no regrets at all just looking forward thanks for the advice ;)

[mushypea]

Someone's not happy are we:D

the last time ye beat us in the Munster final- we went on to win the All Ireland...

BACK IN YOUR BOX

[megatron]

Knacker and scum bags thats nice

Showing your colours alright

Shur look its our problem if we find ourself in a Munster final after a very close game against a great team and all Ireland Finalists last year

We're all aware of how many All Ireland's you have and we have and all the more reason why we want it but shur look we won the last 3 outings with yee and why not another one actually I think Cocoran might be a big loss cause you have beaten us since his gone

Really though knacker and scum bag is not very sporting now is it :)

HA HA HA HA HA HA u actually think ye're gonna win the all ireland, and im saying there scum it coz its true and the waterford fans know its true, i have great respect for o flynn, i didnt say they were bad hurlers, there the best waterford have, but there scum, and get ur facts right, we beat ye without corcoran in a competition

[Cork All-Star]

this team want one thing this year and they won't stop till they get it the crossbar broke our hearts last year and that hurt is still there


Crossbar??? Here's a little reminder. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rfgxwuNHG4

[RonnyB]

Crossbar??? Here's a little reminder. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rfgxwuNHG4

Ah yes the crossbar is made from the ash of a Cloyneman is it?

That was the day I think Dan said someone of yer players should have clun Cathal Naughton just to stop him. Very classy, just like McGrath's 'challenge' on Timmy Mac on sunday.

[Lamps]

There was a great bit of banter between the analysts in the Turbine on Sunday. Hayes reckoned that those who claim hurling to be the pinnacle of the gaelic games would get a rude awakening when the viewing figures for the Munster semi and WrestleMeathia II were compared today.

.

Uh Oh

Just came across this on Kilkenny Cats

No Link as yet.

Looks like the hurling won, though the Meath Dub game peaked higher with it being on later, I myself switched over. We have to go on the average and the hurling won. Will that donkey post a retraction?

RTÉ’s The Sunday Game Live Clinches 70% of Viewers

Yesterday’s simultaneous live broadcast of Waterford V Cork on RTÉ Two and Dublin V Meath on RTÉ One attracted a combined average audience share of 70% with a combined average audience of 646,000 people, the audience for both games together peaking at an impressive 792,000.viewers.

The weekend’s GAA action kicked off on Saturday evening with live coverage of Limerick V Tipperary on RTÉ Two at 6.30pm which attracted an average audience of 360,000 people and going on to peak at 564,000 viewers.

This was then followed by a bumper afternoon of GAA on Sunday as RTÉ Two showed live coverage of Tyrone’s clash with Donegal attracting an average of 298,000 viewers peaking at 406,000 and Waterford’s victory over Cork for which an average of 342,000 viewers tuned in reaching an audience peak of 513,000. Meanwhile on RTÉ One, an average of 285,000 viewers watched the Dublin V Meath replay in Croke Park which attracted a massive peak of 647,000 people.

Later that evening, The Sunday Game highlights programme on RTÉ Two attracted the highest viewership of the series so far with an average audience of 288,000 tuning in to see the highlights and analysis of all of the day’s Championship action climbing to a peak audience of 374,000.
Average Share Peak

RTÉ Two

Saturday 16th June 6.30pm – 9.25pm
Limerick V Tipperary
360,000 29.8% 546,000


Sunday 17th June 1.45pm – 3.55pm
Tyrone V Donegal
298,000 47.7% 406,000

3.55pm – 5.55pm
Waterford V Cork
342,000 37.2% 513,000

9.30pm – 11.30pm
The Sunday Game
288,000 22.0% 374,000

RTÉ One
Sunday 17th June 3.45pm – 5.55pm
Meath V Dublin
285,000 31.6% 647,000

[stevetharlear]

C'mere, best of luck to the Waterford lads. See Clare now, that's ye in a few years so soak it up while it lasts.

That would be Clare...without the medals, ya?:p

[RonnyB]

That would be Clare...without the medals, ya?:p

When you look back at that Clare side they were very lucky that Cork, Tipp & KK were at something of a lull in talent. Back in '95 Carbery were defending the county title here FFS. KK were taking big beatings from Offaly and Tipp really were between losing the bulk of the '91 team and gaining the fruits of the '96 minors. Now that isn't a dig at Clare because they had some great players but they mde hard work of beating a very poor Cork side in '95 and a young light one in '97.

For me Clare had their best side in '98 and would have won the All Ireland if it wasn't for the forced replay with Offaly.

[Lamps]

When you look back at that Clare side they were very lucky that Cork, Tipp & KK were at something of a lull in talent. Back in '95 Carbery were defending the county title here FFS. KK were taking big beatings from Offaly and Tipp really were between losing the bulk of the '91 team and gaining the fruits of the '96 minors. Now that isn't a dig at Clare because they had some great players but they mde hard work of beating a very poor Cork side in '95 and a young light one in '97.

For me Clare had their best side in '98 and would have won the All Ireland if it wasn't for the forced replay with Offaly.

I disagree strongly Ronny, that Clare team and the Offaly one of the same vintage would have held their own and beaten many from any era. They were far better than the Cork 1990 team, and at least as good and probably better than the Tipp team of Leahy, Fox and English, though they didn't have that calibre of forward.

They were better IMO than the Galway team of Cooney and Keady too. And i'd also put them ahead of the 86 Cork team. Certainly they were better than the Kilkenny 92 and 93 teams

[stevetharlear]

And all this time they still didn't have half the class of this Waterford team, but took their chances and won medals. Not saying they were a great team at all, but they were men.

Like the sig by the way, a twat of the highest order.

[Lamps]

And all this time they still didn't have half the class of this Waterford team, but took their chances and won medals. Not saying they were a great team at all, but they were men.

Like the sig by the way, a twat of the highest order.

Come on now

Davey Fitz
Frank Lohan
Brian Lohan
Michael Halloran
Anthony Daly
Seanie Mc
Liam Doyle
Ollie Baker
Colin Lynch


That's class 1-9. Waterford couldn't touch that


Only Gilligan, Sparrow and Jamsie up to scratch as forwards though

[stevetharlear]

Come on now

Davey Fitz
Frank Lohan
Brian Lohan
Michael Halloran
Anthony Daly
Seanie Mc
Liam Doyle
Ollie Baker
Colin Lynch


That's class 1-9. Waterford couldn't touch that


Only Gilligan, Sparrow and Jamsie up to scratch as forwards though

Fair point, go from 6-15 from Sunday's Waterford team though... But I'd still have the Clare men anyday though.

[bduffman]

When Cork score the same amount of goals as Waterford.

2002 - Waterford 1-16 Cork 1-15
2003 - Cork 3-16 Waterford 3-12 (again with a makeshift full back line)
2005 - Cork 2-17 Waterford 2-15, Cork 1-18 Waterford 1-13
2006 - Cork 1-16 Waterford 1-15

Thats 3 victories for Cork out of 4.

Going into any game against Waterford I feel if you stop the goals or indeed cancel them likewise, Cork should win. Dont think many teams in the last 5 years have scored more points than Cork when they play them. Its a good trait to have but sometimes its a drawback when you see Jerry bursting from midfield like yesterday. I thought there was a goal on for him.

Anyway if I was a Waterford man I'd be worried that a small fella like Fraggie Murphy caught a clean ball off yer full back line for the 1st goal.

I notice you conveniently left out 2004 & last Sunday. The fact is Waterford usually score more points against other teams. However against Cork the point tally is less - why? - because more goals are scored. Waterford have a better record of scoring goals against Cork than against any other team - 15 goals in the last 5 matches. So much for your super Sully.

[bduffman]

What crossbar???

Waterford's full back line has always been their weakest area. Has it improved that much? Theres no way Fraggie should have caught a ball in the area clean out of the sky while not even jumping.

Dont talk about abusing Cork fans. The only time I was ashamed of being a Cork fan was the stuff I heard last year about Davy Fitz. Mullane gets abuse but we still remember his V-sign to us in 2003 and thats why more than anything. He was a journeyman until those 3 goals and wasn't even meant to start that particular match. Really showed his class didnt he in celebration.

Eoin Kelly's behaviour yesterday left a lot to be desired as well. They should take a leaf out of Dan the man's book and cheer with their own. Now theres a warrior of a man. I think V-signs and supporter taunting are bigger stains on the game than 10 fellas shouldering and pushing each other. Shur isn't that the stain on the game in yer county with years having fellas fighting non stop in club games?

Dont think us Cork supporters are begrudging Waterford their win. Clowns like you gloating wont win ye fans though. 9 posts since August last year all dealing with Cork Waterford games. Do ye even have yer own message board?

Finally what crossbar??

And why do you think Mullane used the v sign. I can't condone him doing that but the abuse he gets from Cork fans is disgusting. It happens every game.

[Sound]

I notice you conveniently left out 2004 & last Sunday. The fact is Waterford usually score more points against other teams. However against Cork the point tally is less - why? - because more goals are scored. Waterford have a better record of scoring goals against Cork than against any other team - 15 goals in the last 5 matches. So much for your super Sully.

I think this is the first time I've ever used this but it's correct in this instance-

'Show us yer medals!'.

[stevetharlear]

I think this is the first time I've ever used this but it's correct in this instance-

'Show us yer medals!'.

Hard line to use without looking like a prick, but it works in this context.

I'd have embellished it with 'Show us yer medals, knacker man'.

;)

[Lamps]

Fair point, go from 6-15 from Sunday's Waterford team though... But I'd still have the Clare men anyday though.

The thing about Waterford that they seem to be putting right to an extent so far, but remember its very very early days, is that not all their forwards can fire on the same day. When we have a fully fit Brian Murphy for Mullane, Sean Og to stick like a limpet to Shanahan, and Sully back, I really don't think they will be able to function as well.

And I may be pilloried for this but fine hurler and warrior as Ken McGrath is, he has a bit of the Tommy Walsh's about him, high fielding aimless clearing and has a tendancy to miss important frees. He has never gained a true upper hand on Niall Mac except for maybe once, i reckon Niall Mac has come out on top on 2 or 3 occasions against him. IMO not a patch on Curran as a CB. There I said it

[Lamps]

I think this is the first time I've ever used this but it's correct in this instance-

'Show us yer medals!'.

I'll approve of it on this occasion, go ahead

[RonnyB]

I disagree strongly Ronny, that Clare team and the Offaly one of the same vintage would have held their own and beaten many from any era. They were far better than the Cork 1990 team, and at least as good and probably better than the Tipp team of Leahy, Fox and English, though they didn't have that calibre of forward.

They were better IMO than the Galway team of Cooney and Keady too. And i'd also put them ahead of the 86 Cork team. Certainly they were better than the Kilkenny 92 and 93 teams

Maybe so but I was just making the point because of their lack of quality forwards the struggled to beat poor Cork sides at times. Also KK's attack in those years was much more superior to Clare's.

[RonnyB]

I notice you conveniently left out 2004 & last Sunday. The fact is Waterford usually score more points against other teams. However against Cork the point tally is less - why? - because more goals are scored. Waterford have a better record of scoring goals against Cork than against any other team - 15 goals in the last 5 matches. So much for your super Sully.

Last sunday and in 2004 Waterford scored more goals than Cork. My arguement was when the teams break even in the goal stat Cork usually win. I also stated yesterday that Cork's decisions to take the easy point when a goal was possible is a possible drawback too.

As for Sully the guy has the All-Stars and medals to argue his case. Theres not much he can do when he never marks Mullane or Dan when the two sides meet. Also I seem to remember a myth in the '05 semi final in Thurles that Dan took Sully to the cleaners when the 1st goal was a clear square ball.

On the Mullane thing I was in the Town End of Thurles that day. Not many Cork supporters have heard much of Mullane and I didnt hear any abuse of him. The moment he stuck his fingers at us was the moment he dug his grave with regards our thoughts of him. The following year he got savage abuse and he cracked. What does he expect when he acts like a classless gom towards us?

[Lamps]

Maybe so but I was just making the point because of their lack of quality forwards the struggled to beat poor Cork sides at times. Also KK's attack in those years was much more superior to Clare's.

They probably did in 97 too but Clare were way too strong for them as a team. Not sure if Eamon Morrisey was still knocking around but they definitely had Carey, Power and Carter

[RonnyB]

They probably did in 97 too but Clare were way too strong for them as a team. Not sure if Eamon Morrisey was still knocking around but they definitely had Carey, Power and Carter

Morrisey had transferred to Dublin by that stage I think with 'Shiner' Brennan.

[cheeky]

Take your Beaten!
:)


and suspensions

[Lamps]

Take your Beaten!
:)


and suspensions

'kinell

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Cletus.gif

[Sound]

'kinell

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Cletus.gif

It's Dan!

[RonnyB]

Take your Beaten!
:)


and suspensions

Oh the irony.

[Rebelred]

been off work the past few days so only getting back to this thread now. Firstly what a game, end to end, non stop for the 70 minutes. Credit to both sides for that.
I have to say I'm proud of Corks performance on sunday, they never gave up and could well have levelled it at the end but it wasn't to be. Given the circumstances though, Cork's performance in the second half, which they played the majority of without 6 senior figures and numberous debutants in key positions, is extremely heartening. The downsides were the defensive lapses for the goals and Hero's general performance again not being up to scratch. Still we had nothing to lose going into the game and come out of it with our heads held high and plenty motivation in the locker for the business end of the year.
As for Waterford, their big problem now is reaching that level every game, getting all their forwards to peak in every game, and getting on top in the back line aswell. for me that was as good as they can get, and they still leaked a massive 3-18, which would have to make you wonder if they can win an All Ireland with this defence?

[legend76]

whats this fitz thing about??

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums//showpost.php?p=81822 2&postcount=53

see also

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showthread.php?t=534 49

[Mr. Monty]

I have to say they're are much more positives for Cork coming out of that game than for the Deise. The worst thing for them is that all the pundits were talking about how well they played. I though Cork dominated the game from start to finish really but conceded very soft goals. Plus Deise had only 4 wides. Hard to see them being that accurate again?

I'd have a slight worry about the Dublin match given that its gonna be in Parnell Park. They'll have to be on their toes for that on but they'll win it and onwards to September.

What abother joke it is to have that Dublin game on in Dublin on Saturday evening when we've a beatin to dish out to the sheep shaggers at 2 p.m. on the following Sunday. GAA against Cork well and truly alive.


Brennan Out!!!!!!

[stevetharlear]

It's Dan!
'Don't judge me if ya don't know me!'
'Maaaaaaw, Paaaaaw'
DANGER 'CLEETUS' SHANAHAN...