View Full Version : FF vows to make Dublin better.
northmallexile
12-05-2007, 04:57 PM
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0512/breaking29.htm
Well, that's just peachy. Good to know where their priorities lie.
JonnyOnionRings
12-05-2007, 05:19 PM
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0512/breaking29.htm
Well, that's just peachy. Good to know where their priorities lie.
that the government is an dublin entity masquerading as an irish entity can hardly be a surprise to anyone.
Jim Comic
12-05-2007, 11:46 PM
FF vows to make Dublin better.
wow, didn't know bertie had a nuclear weapon, fair play to him for making the tough decisions, history will thank him for it
You just copping on now that the whole development of the country is hugely biased towards Dublin?
doppellanger
15-05-2007, 10:07 AM
You just copping on now that the whole development of the country is hugely biased towards Dublin?
well,it's good for the rest of the country as well.
better to let dublin develop than trying to build airports in Knock etc.
Proinsias
15-05-2007, 11:01 AM
well,it's good for the rest of the country as well.
better to let dublin develop than trying to build airports in Knock etc.
Or building more than a couple of railway tracks in Cork?
Or linking Cork-Limerick-Galway with a decent road?
Or some form of decent public transport in the second city?
I could go on and on and on about the transport strategy in Ireland...
Professor Piehead
15-05-2007, 11:10 AM
Or building more than a couple of railway tracks in Cork?
Or linking Cork-Limerick-Galway with a decent road?
Or some form of decent public transport in the second city?
I could go on and on and on about the transport strategy in Ireland...
Perhaps big tax breaks for companies that move outside cities would be a bit more sensible, rather than building more roads to take in more traffic that the cities can clearly not handle...
Proinsias
15-05-2007, 11:12 AM
Perhaps big tax breaks for companies that move outside cities would be a bit more sensible, rather than building more roads to take in more traffic that the cities can clearly not handle...
Or incentives for companies to set up where there are public transport facilities instead of out of town business parks where everyone has no choice but to drive there?
Professor Piehead
15-05-2007, 11:15 AM
Or incentives for companies to set up where there are public transport facilities instead of out of town business parks where everyone has no choice but to drive there?
Sadly, as long as motor vehicles remain a big earner for the government, it will never happen.
Proinsias
15-05-2007, 11:19 AM
Sadly, as long as motor vehicles remain a big earner for the government, it will never happen.
Bollocks.
So long as people accept it, the government won't change their opinion.
The Greens are one of the parties who are pushing this view, in fairness to them.
It's a far, far more efficient and cost effective way of running the country and actually better for society as everyone sitting in their own little car in a traffic jam is good for nobody.
Professor Piehead
15-05-2007, 11:21 AM
Bollocks.
So long as people accept it, the government won't change their opinion.
The Greens are one of the parties who are pushing this view, in fairness to them.
It's a far, far more efficient and cost effective way of running the country and actually better for society as everyone sitting in their own little car in a traffic jam is good for nobody.
Car tax, tax on petrol etc...big, big earner.
Proinsias
15-05-2007, 11:25 AM
Roads, building and maintance.
Big, big, big expense.
jungle
15-05-2007, 12:02 PM
Roads, building and maintance.
Big, big, big expense.
However, public transport is a big expense too.
When it comes to it, isn't the problem really that CIE don't make political donations...
Proinsias
15-05-2007, 12:21 PM
However, public transport is a big expense too.
When it comes to it, isn't the problem really that CIE don't make political donations...
Or that they appear to have no financial clout whatsoever.
Yes, public transport can be expensive but then again, it can be cheaper than roads if done properly...
doppellanger
12-07-2007, 11:39 PM
Perhaps big tax breaks for companies that move outside cities would be a bit more sensible, rather than building more roads to take in more traffic that the cities can clearly not handle...
Well, that was the strategy in the 1980s and it didnīt go so well.
One of the reasons for the Celtic Tiger was that Dublin was allowed to develop. Companies who wanted to invest weren't told "ok there is a factory on the far side of Sligo that we need a tenant for".
So Dublin achieved a critical mass which meant it just sucked in more investment, public and private.
Hopefully now the Greens will be able to improve the public transport infrastructure for the rest of the country - however land prices sort of preclude any sort of railway development...
Professor Piehead
13-07-2007, 06:07 PM
Well, that was the strategy in the 1980s and it didnīt go so well.
One of the reasons for the Celtic Tiger was that Dublin was allowed to develop. Companies who wanted to invest weren't told "ok there is a factory on the far side of Sligo that we need a tenant for".
So Dublin achieved a critical mass which meant it just sucked in more investment, public and private.
Hopefully now the Greens will be able to improve the public transport infrastructure for the rest of the country - however land prices sort of preclude any sort of railway development...
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