Cork South West Constituency ;)

[puzz]

Hi, Just wanna hear your thoughts on Cork South West constituency. Who are voting for/ reckon will be elected etc.

List of Candidates:
Denis O' Donovan (FF)
Jim O' Keefe (FG)
PJ Sheehan (FG)
Christy O' Sullivan (FF)
Michael McCarthy (Lab)
Quentin Gargan (Green)
Cionnath O Sullivan (SF)

I reckon it will be a battle for the top 4 for the 3 seats. Personally I think FG are crazy to be running PJ Sheehan again, he's too old! and this would have been a great time to introduce new blood. The next time round could see O Keefe and Sheehan retiring and they'll be screwed, Obviously no vision!
Despite this i reckon FG will win back the two, purely due to the swing away from FF.

Denis O Donovan will probably get in for FF but he's been poor. Has'nt fulfilled his promises e.g industry in Dunmanway.
Christy O Sullivan is only meh! think he'll lose out!

What do ye think:confused:

[northmallexile]

It'll go back to FG 2 FF 1. This is not a good thing - constituency badly needs some new blood, as well as a candidate from east of Bandon.

[jungle]

For this election, FG2 FF1, with the possibility of O'Sullivan taking the Fianna Fail seat.

A lot of Joe Walsh''s votes were personal and won't stay in the party. Jim O'Keeffe could benefit in particular.

As regards Sheehan's age, I suppose I'd have mixed feelings. There are examples of people who've served in high office, never mind as a TD into their 80s. However, you'd have to wonder if his health would hold up until he's 79 (which he would be when the Dail ends).

The best bet for getting a bit of life into the constituency would be a significant Labour vote. They took 9% last time out and if they could increase this to 12% this time could put themselves in a position to challenge for a seat in the next election.

But, for now, a FF/FG scrap.


NME->Are there many votes east of Bandon? You have Kinsale and Inishannon there and a number of small villages, but that would only make up a small percentage of the constituencies population.

[northmallexile]

NME->Are there many votes east of Bandon? You have Kinsale and Inishannon there and a number of small villages, but that would only make up a small percentage of the constituencies population.

There's a growing commuter belt for the city towards the eastern end of the constituency (my own home place included) - I'd say it could start to become significant in future elections if not in this one.

But to be honest, my reasons for wanting a candidate east of Bandon are purely selfish ones - we're not particularly well-represented where we are. Would have been nice if Alan Coleman had got the FF nomination.

[jungle]

There's a growing commuter belt for the city towards the eastern end of the constituency (my own home place included) - I'd say it could start to become significant in future elections if not in this one.

I'd expect a major reorganisation of Cork constituencies after the next boundary review, with South Central being split into two three-seaters with Ballincollig and some of the area towards Kinsale being moved in to make up the numbers.

That would probably at least mean the South Central candidates from the Carrigaline area becoming interested in you...

[Now You're Hurling]

There's a growing commuter belt for the city towards the eastern end of the constituency (my own home place included) - I'd say it could start to become significant in future elections if not in this one.

But to be honest, my reasons for wanting a candidate east of Bandon are purely selfish ones - we're not particularly well-represented where we are. Would have been nice if Alan Coleman had got the FF nomination.

I would agree with you there - there is one candidate based within 20 miles of where I live, Jim O'Keeffe, who will certainly have enough to deal with in representing the Bandon area.

Having personal experience of involvement with a community group, the sitting TD's have shown little or no interest in engaging with issues affecting my community. Given the areas of the candidates in the current election, it would appear that no matter who gets in, this situation will continue.

I do think that FF will lose a lot of what votes they had in the eastern end of the constituency because of the shafting Alan Coleman by FF HQ parachuting in Christy O'Sullivan.

[northmallexile]

Despite being far from a FF supporter, I'd have given Alan Coleman a decent enough preference simply in order to have a TD in the locality. Now? Screw 'em. I'll be voting on caprice and whimsy (otherwise known as national issues.)

[Bill O'Reilly]

P.J. Sheehan is far too old and should not have been allowed to stand. In politics age does matter especially if someone is his age. It does impact on their ability to connect with people.

[Gael]

Quentin Gargan has a very good youtube video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxiFdMBUuZw)

[Hochma]

Who among them has "vision" ...

[puzz]

I would agree with you there - there is one candidate based within 20 miles of where I live, Jim O'Keeffe, who will certainly have enough to deal with in representing the Bandon area. What are you implying?!! :mad: :D


I do think that FF will lose a lot of what votes they had in the eastern end of the constituency because of the shafting Alan Coleman by FF HQ parachuting in Christy O'Sullivan.

Yeah your right, there's a big divide in FF in west cork over coleman/Christy thing. I suppose they were afraid to have two candidates at either end of the constiuency with no one in the middle.
Plus they're also expecting Christy to get Joe Walsh votes which looks like its not gonna happen :puppydog: Some people I know are finding him very hard to take serious.

[Gracious]

why can't he be taken seriously and why do ye think he can't represent the eastern constituency when he has big family connections in Kinsale.
What i know of him is that he works hard for anyone who contacts him. He was responsible for getting certain things like insulation covered under the Essential Repairs Grants of Cork County council. He may not be great at PR but I bet most people who have asked him to do something for them would say he delivered.
I don't know the man personally but I have been speaking to a lot of people recently on this and a lot of young people around West Cork speak very highly of him. OK some of the people I spoke to know his family, But I wouldn't rule him out at all. FF obviously did their homework here and if Alan Coleman had any chance of being elected they wouldn't have risked causing a rift.
Sure isnt Clonakilty about 10 minutes from Bandon by car so it's not like he's a million miles away from O'Keeffe.
Anyway, I still havnt decided who ill vote for myself. But then come to think of it all the candidates are west along except for O'Keeffe, Cionnaith & Christy Mmmmmmmm...

[puzz]

why can't he be taken seriously and why do ye think he can't represent the eastern constituency when he has big family connections in Kinsale.
What i know of him is that he works hard for anyone who contacts him. He was responsible for getting certain things like insulation covered under the Essential Repairs Grants of Cork County council. He may not be great at PR but I bet most people who have asked him to do something for them would say he delivered.
I don't know the man personally but I have been speaking to a lot of people recently on this and a lot of young people around West Cork speak very highly of him. OK some of the people I spoke to know his family, But I wouldn't rule him out at all. FF obviously did their homework here and if Alan Coleman had any chance of being elected they wouldn't have risked causing a rift.
Sure isnt Clonakilty about 10 minutes from Bandon by car so it's not like he's a million miles away from O'Keeffe.
Anyway, I still havnt decided who ill vote for myself. But then come to think of it all the candidates are west along except for O'Keeffe, Cionnaith & Christy Mmmmmmmm...


Firstly Clon is about 20-25mins drive from clon. :roll:
As for Christy, Im undecided myself so have no preference to any party, but i get the impression from people that Christy is a dud! He will certainly not fill Joe Walsh's boots, and won't as much for clon.

[ansypansy]

Firstly Clon is about 20-25mins drive from clon. :roll:
As for Christy, Im undecided myself so have no preference to any party, but i get the impression from people that Christy is a dud! He will certainly not fill Joe Walsh's boots, and won't as much for clon.

Clon in 20/25 mins drive from Clon???

Who do you think is giving the impression that Christy is a dud! Denis O'Donovan is so scared that O'Sullivan will take his seat, he has covered nearly the whole eastern side already. I would love to be a fly on the wall when these guys are going around.
The only ones responsible for putting this vibe out are his running mates. People are so gullible.

If the man is elected, he will be as good a representative as any of the rest of them.

[jungle]

If the man is elected, he will be as good a representative as any of the rest of them.

When the rest of them include Denis O'Donovan and PJ Sheehan, this is no great claim...

[ansypansy]

When the rest of them include Denis O'Donovan and PJ Sheehan, this is no great claim...


I wasn't making a great claim. But to call the man a dud. just because what? they've heard a few people saying what.. It's all bullshit talk. Nobody knows f all.

[northmallexile]

Is there any kind of polling data on Cork SW floating around?

[puzz]

Clon in 20/25 mins drive from Clon???

Who do you think is giving the impression that Christy is a dud! Denis O'Donovan is so scared that O'Sullivan will take his seat, he has covered nearly the whole eastern side already. I would love to be a fly on the wall when these guys are going around.
The only ones responsible for putting this vibe out are his running mates. People are so gullible.

If the man is elected, he will be as good a representative as any of the rest of them.

Denis O Donovan, I agree is not playing fair, I remember last time aswell round there was lots of tension between Walsh and Donovan over canvassing regions. Obviously Denis does'nt feel too comfortable with rise again of PJ Sheehan and McCarthy west along.

[northmallexile]

Denis O Donovan, I agree is not playing fair, I remember last time aswell round there was lots of tension between Walsh and Donovan over canvassing regions. Obviously Denis does'nt feel too comfortable with rise again of PJ Sheehan and McCarthy west along.

Heh.

He will rise again!

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[Gael]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

It's an insult to the people of Cork Southwest that Fine Gael are running 74 year old P.J. Sheehan as a candidate in the general election. He is simply too old for the job and should be stood down immediately.
Considering that Tony Blair today announced his departure from politics at the age of 54, an attempt by 74 year old Sheehan to re-enter national politics just sounds STUPID and a waste of a seat. We need younger people with energy, new ideas and vision who are in touch with the real world.

[puzz]

It's an insult to the people of Cork Southwest that Fine Gael are running 74 year old P.J. Sheehan as a candidate in the general election. He is simply too old for the job and should be stood down immediately.
Considering that Tony Blair today announced his departure from politics at the age of 54, an attempt by 74 year old Sheehan to re-enter national politics just sounds STUPID and a waste of a seat. We need younger people with energy, new ideas and vision who are in touch with the real world.

agreed that he'd too old but maybe being out of the game for 5 years means he's ready to work hard for people of west cork, and he would take it for granted this time round. He'll prob do just as much/little as other TDs for the area.
But having said that I definitely agree that FG were foolish not to nominate a younger candidate like Jim Daly with fresh approach, but they just played it safe. :confused:

[northmallexile]

Irish Times constituency analysis here:

http://www.ireland.com/focus/election2007/constituencies/cork_southwest.html

[Some user]

P.J. Sheehan is far too old and should not have been allowed to stand. In politics age does matter especially if someone is his age. It does impact on their ability to connect with people.

74 is waayyyyy too old but then look at Paisley!

[northmallexile]

74 is waayyyyy too old but then look at Paisley!

Oh God. Do I have to?