People who change colours

[EL TORO]

Went to school with a fella for years who supported Everton. We became good buddies and the whole Everton connection made it easier to find common ground etc. Then in the 1996/97 season, the fucker decided he would be a Utd fan from there on. Gave me his Everton top n' all. I felt utterly betrayed. Funnily enough we didnt really get on very well after that. Even his brother who also supports Everton lost the plot with him. I saw him there at the weekend when i was home, I was walking through Mahon Point and there he was with his Utd top on.....the dirty fecker. Nothing against Utd fans, just cant stand turncoats. Does anyone else know a turncoat? lets see how prevelant this problem is.

[RICH]

a lot of the biys i went to school with changed their colours. leeds, spurs, liverpool fans all turning to man u when they started winning in the 90's. then years on they proclaim that they supported man u forever. fuckin piss take

[RonnyB]

my cousins used to support Liverpool around the time when United beat them in the '96 Cup Final. One of them is 3 years younger than me the other is 7. During the Treble season 1 started to support United & the other Chelsea. Since then I dont discuss English soccer with them.

[jungle]

I don't remember any turncoats.

I remember a lot of guys who were Liverpool fans who switched off until they won the Champions League a couple of years back. I remember another who supported Newcastle fiercely 10 years ago who doesn't seem to be into football at all now too.

[mart]

I was a Liverpool fan till I was 6 i think, i only supported them cos all my mates did. I always supported Forest though, i made them my 1 and only english team when i was 6 back in '88... Never regretted it since

[Edmund Blackwater]

I was a Liverpool fan till I was 6 i think, i only supported them cos all my mates did. I always supported Forest though, i made them my 1 and only english team when i was 6 back in '88... Never regretted it since
:grin:
Unlucky.

[xvis]

..two brothers of mine, one a bit older, one a bit younger, followed Liverpool and Arsenal respectively from about the ages of about 4 or 5 in the late seventies up to about the ages of 18 or so and then both switched allegiances.
Both had been over to a few matches at Highbury etc and didn't really fancy it. The Liverpool older brother switched to Leeds when they were in division two around about 1989, ..which was a fuckin disaster for me as Liverpool had all those leagues through childhood and then when he switched to a lower league side they got promoted and robbed us of the league in '92!!! ..ha.

The younger one switched from Arsenal, to having Arsenal and Sunderland, and then to just Sunderland for the last ten to fifteen years.


so there you two actual cases of fans downgrading their clubs.

[Edmund Blackwater]

so there you two actual cases of fans downgrading their clubs.
They've all been examples of downgrading clubs so far.

[Roman Abramovich]

ive followed arsenal since i was 5/6. through the "dark ages".
there was a time i followed cork city more and would pick turners cross or bishopstown over a trip to highbury/watch game on tv.
Ill be a gooner till i die, even if they expired.
I do watch sunderland a lot since keane took them over.
Ill watch anyone. im hoping its an all england champions league final so i wont have to root for any1 as an english club will win it regardless.

Im hardcore arsenal but i did celebrate utds champions league win in 99. I did celebrate the pools win in 2005.

Arsenal fan 1st, footie fan close 2nd.

[liam2me]

followed west ham since i worked there, didn't follow anyone before that, have been "encouraged" by certain members here to give up on west ham if i move home and follow cork city.

whats worse, turncoats or those who encourage others to do so?

[KolaKubes]

I'd forgive any primary school kid for changing colours but it tails off fairly rapidly after that. I know a few who followed kind of obscure teams and they'd nearly always have a sort of sneaky "second" team that they seemed to like watching even if they'd never admit it.

The singularly worst thing I've ever heard was a lad who got married there recently and cause her and her family were all dyed in the wool Evertonians, he switched from Liverpool on the quiet. I don't think her lot even know.

Jesus like, I've been in the situation of actual cultural differences before and found myself unwilling to budge cause herself was being a bossy bitch about it. When you see that sort of sycophant about, kind of puts in perspective the sort of eunuchs some men have become these days.

[de mange]

easy one...
im from cork city

[KolaKubes]

easy one...
im from cork city

Unless you're from the northside of Cork City in which case you'd no sooner go down to the Cross for a game...

[de mange]

Unless you're from the northside of Cork City in which case you'd no sooner go down to the Cross for a game...

norrie born and bred.. shouldnt cross the river then no?

ahh..i can see where this is going
youre going to equate me crossing the river with you crossing the channel arent ya? ;)

[Edmund Blackwater]

easy one...
im from cork city
manyoo fan, eh?

[de mange]

Unless you're from the northside of Cork City in which case you'd no sooner go down to the Cross for a game...

by the way.. ill be there tomorrow night when the rovers filth roll into town

[de mange]

manyoo fan, eh?

nah.. we're all sunderland fans these days

[Forsberg]

easy one...
im from cork city

That doesn't even begin to address the title of the thread.

[jungle]

followed west ham since i worked there, didn't follow anyone before that, have been "encouraged" by certain members here to give up on west ham if i move home and follow cork city.

whats worse, turncoats or those who encourage others to do so?

I don't think that's a problem.

I've long combined a support of Chelsea and Cork City and in recent years I've added Feyenoord to the list too. So long as the teams aren't going to come into regular contact with each other, it's not much different from supporting Munster and West Ham.

[de mange]

That doesn't even begin to address the title of the thread.

yes it does

most of the stories in this thread will start with 'i started following 'some english team' when i was 5/6/7/8 and ive never changed cos i'm 'some english team' till i die, but there was this fella in the class and he changed when he was 12 cos 'some other english team' won the treble that year. i mean.. what a loser.. and now he still wears the jersey

how many times had you seen 'your team' or even been in engurland when you were a youngfella? probably never.. therefore how could you possibly pick a team to support other than you father/peer pressure etc making your mind up for you? also, no matter what you claim you can never experience the feeling i had when city won the league vs derry at the cross.. what a night in the shed when OUR team won the league

btw,, i realise there are guys on here who are half spanish/english or whatever but you get my drift

[KolaKubes]

norrie born and bred.. shouldnt cross the river then no?

ahh..i can see where this is going
youre going to equate me crossing the river with you crossing the channel arent ya? ;)

I literally knew nothing about Cork south of the Bandon Road until I was 20! :D

That's commitment like. ;)

I'm not a norrie mind, more a norrie-leaning culchie. :D

[Professor Piehead]

Black/brown to white.


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[KolaKubes]

also, no matter what you claim you can never experience the feeling i had when city won the league vs derry at the cross.. what a night in the shed when OUR team won the league

Ehm, Cork also play hurling you know? I've experienced exactly what you describe.

Seeing as I'm from a rabid GAA head family, I essentially have as little in common with Cork City as I do with Manchester Utd. There's intercounty Waterford hurlers I'd have more in common with that Cork City if you want to really stretch it.

Anyway, I seem to remember John Caulfield (fairly sure it was him) explaining that Cork City were "a southside team" and as a northsider they'd never be his team.

That wasn't so many years ago. He seemed to be suggesting it'd be like Man City fans all going and following Utd if City ceased to be.

Thought Rockmount (and the other local sides up that way) would have been the choice of most northsiders? Open to correction obviously.

[de mange]

I literally knew nothing about Cork south of the Bandon Road until I was 20! :D

That's commitment like. ;)

I'm not a norrie mind, more a norrie-leaning culchie. :D

waaaherfurds the team for you then.. just a bit further north and a bit to the east

out the cross with you tomorrow night then for some live footie and give us a report here monday morning
il be surprised if you dont enjoy the game and the atmosphere

[KolaKubes]

waaaherfurds the team for you then.. just a bit further north and a bit to the east

out the cross with you tomorrow night then for some live footie and give us a report here monday morning
il be surprised if you dont enjoy the game and the atmosphere


I've always been disinclined due to my childhood "support" of Cobh Ramblers, ironically enough given the thread!

I've been at the Cross a few times. Even managed to play there once.

[de mange]

Ehm, Cork also play hurling you know? I've experienced exactly what you describe.

Seeing as I'm from a rabid GAA head family, I essentially have as little in common with Cork City as I do with Manchester Utd. There's intercounty Waterford hurlers I'd have more in common with that Cork City if you want to really stretch it.

Anyway, I seem to remember John Caulfield (fairly sure it was him) explaining that Cork City were "a southside team" and as a northsider they'd never be his team.

That wasn't so many years ago. He seemed to be suggesting it'd be like Man City fans all going and following Utd if City ceased to be.

Thought Rockmount (and the other local sides up that way) would have been the choice of most northsiders? Open to correction obviously.

hold up now.. youre shifting the sticks.. literally! we were talikng soccer a few mins ago

for me the ultimate sporting accolade would be to line out for cork in a hurling all-ireland in front of a packed croker.. nothing else would come close

if you have experienced the gaa thing then i dont need to try explain why utd/liverpool etc couldnt possibly evoke the same emotion in an irishman

[de mange]

Ehm, Cork also play hurling you know? I've experienced exactly what you describe.

Seeing as I'm from a rabid GAA head family, I essentially have as little in common with Cork City as I do with Manchester Utd. There's intercounty Waterford hurlers I'd have more in common with that Cork City if you want to really stretch it.

Anyway, I seem to remember John Caulfield (fairly sure it was him) explaining that Cork City were "a southside team" and as a northsider they'd never be his team.

That wasn't so many years ago. He seemed to be suggesting it'd be like Man City fans all going and following Utd if City ceased to be.

Thought Rockmount (and the other local sides up that way) would have been the choice of most northsiders? Open to correction obviously.

right.. first ive ever heard of city and the northside/southside thing and ive been supporting the club years

Johnny C is a legend, if thats his opinion im surprised and dissapointed

if queenstown is your thing then off down you go for their next home match and leave us know how it went

[liam2me]

I don't think that's a problem.

I've long combined a support of Chelsea and Cork City and in recent years I've added Feyenoord to the list too. So long as the teams aren't going to come into regular contact with each other, it's not much different from supporting Munster and West Ham.
not really, they are two different sports.

anyway ive no problem with people having a second or 3rd team, i got driving lessons from a millwall fan, and kept an eye on them so we could have a bit of banter, still keep an eye on them now, also i hope keane does well at sunderland and if tevez leaves WHU next year, i hope he does well where ever he may go.

[KolaKubes]

right.. first ive ever heard of city and the northside/southside thing and ive been supporting the club years

Johnny C is a legend, if thats his opinion im surprised and dissapointed

if queenstown is your thing then off down you go for their next home match and leave us know how it went

If I was going to do that, I'd just toddle back to my own local club sure.

They might even give me a game.

[de mange]

That wasn't so many years ago. He seemed to be suggesting it'd be like Man City fans all going and following Utd if City ceased to be.
.

what did he say about lads born and bred in cork city supporting man utd? ;)

[Alan Smith]

Went to school with a fella for years who supported Everton. We became good buddies and the whole Everton connection made it easier to find common ground etc. Then in the 1996/97 season, the fucker decided he would be a Utd fan from there on. Gave me his Everton top n' all. I felt utterly betrayed. Funnily enough we didnt really get on very well after that. Even his brother who also supports Everton lost the plot with him. I saw him there at the weekend when i was home, I was walking through Mahon Point and there he was with his Utd top on.....the dirty fecker. Nothing against Utd fans, just cant stand turncoats. Does anyone else know a turncoat? lets see how prevelant this problem is.

Easy solution to your problem support your localteam and nobody will betray each other

[KolaKubes]

what did he say about lads born and bred in cork city supporting man utd? ;)

I dunno, John doesn't call so much anymore. :(

:D

Fuck it, I dunno, you're the norry, you go and find out where he lives and ask him. I'm sure he'd be only too delighted to discuss you selling out your northside roots and traipsing down to the Cross. ;)

[Deadman]

there is guy working with me. I know for a fact the little prick was as Aston Villa fan before and I didn't see him for ages..then he turns up and he is a Blackburn Rovers fan...I mean, Blackburn Rovers..In the name in all that is holy...you get a chance to turn and you pick BLACKBURN ROVERS...WHY....Oh hang on..must have been the whole winning the premiership thing and then getting relegated(not seeing why he supports them now) and then getting promoted and winning the carling cup and then, well basically, just being a complete and utter pain in the bollix..and because of this guy and his constant mad ravings I now fucking hate blackburn...with a passion...so sorry rovers fans..nothing personal..

[qbim3]

a friend of mean went from newcastle to everton to west ham, and when ya pull the prick on it he'll try deny it and say ahh id didnt reaaly follow the other two.. grew up following Arsenal but when we got the old black box in the day all we had was channel 4 for soccer on sunday, so got into watchin milan, haven't stopped, i'd be torn between the two, but by no means would i call myself die hard..

have a friend born and bred forest, opssessed isnt even the word for his support for them, even got tattoo's to show it and all.

question, who would get a tattoo of the club they support?

[de mange]

I dunno, John doesn't call so much anymore. :(

:D

Fuck it, I dunno, you're the norry, you go and find out where he lives and ask him. I'm sure he'd be only too delighted to discuss you selling out your northside roots and traipsing down to the Cross. ;)

he manages avondale in the MSL.. gwan.. ya know you want ta, im sure he's an approachable fella

btw.. pairc ui caoimh is on the southside too ya know
or do you only turn up when we've hit croker ? ;)

[Edmund Blackwater]

question, who would get a tattoo of the club they support?

Answer: knackers.

[EL TORO]

Easy solution to your problem support your localteam and nobody will betray each other

I cant boy! I live in Sale and work in Old Trafford. I really couldnt. I have the good fortune to be a complete Everton nut...much to my good lady's lament.

On another note, I was at home over Easter and sat in watching the Makims play Southampton with my dad. Jesus you'd think it was Cork in the All Ireland final. Keano can do no wrong in my dads eyes now, He's a self confessed Liverpool, Utd, Reading, Sunderland fan. In other words he follows any tema with a hint of Irishness/Cork about it. Although funnily enough he draws the line at Celtic.

[Rebel Yell]

Followed Man Utd since 1978 and Cork City since their inception in 84.

Unluckily for me...my entire school years never coincided with a Utd title....I was nearly 20 and in my second year in College before we managed to win it in 93....
It was similar back then...the hardcore fans were easy to identify, whatever their allegiance...all the rest seemed to support Liverpool. There will always be that element...the bandwagoners who will attach themselves to a club in the position of eminence at that period of time...some great Liverpool sides back then it has to be said....although I could never admit that at the time to my schoolmates....there was myself and one other fella in the entire Primary school who followed Utd (twas a small school school though)


Mind you the odd cup win through the 80's kept us going.....amazing how important the FA cup once was....even beating Brighton in 83 :)
Best of all was the 85 final...Whiteside's winner...class !!!!!

[EL TORO]

Followed Man Utd since 1978 and Cork City since their inception in 84.

Unluckily for me...my entire school years never coincided with a Utd title....I was nearly 20 and in my second year in College before we managed to win it in 93....
It was similar back then...the hardcore fans were easy to identify, whatever their allegiance...all the rest seemed to support Liverpool. There will always be that element...the bandwagoners who will attach themselves to a club in the position of eminence at that period of time...some great Liverpool sides back then it has to be said....although I could never admit that at the time to my schoolmates....there was myself and one other fella in the entire Primary school who followed Utd (twas a small school school though)


Mind you the odd cup win through the 80's kept us going.....amazing how important the FA cup once was....even beating Brighton in 83 :)
Best of all was the 85 final...Whiteside's winner...class !!!!!

If it wasnt for that pesky Kevin Moran, Reidy would have been in. :rolleyes:

[KolaKubes]

he manages avondale in the MSL.. gwan.. ya know you want ta, im sure he's an approachable fella

btw.. pairc ui caoimh is on the southside too ya know
or do you only turn up when we've hit croker ? ;)

Burn. :D

[STEVIEG]

Followed Man Utd since 1978 and Cork City since their inception in 84.

Unluckily for me...my entire school years never coincided with a Utd title....I was nearly 20 and in my second year in College before we managed to win it in 93....
It was similar back then...the hardcore fans were easy to identify, whatever their allegiance...all the rest seemed to support Liverpool. There will always be that element...the bandwagoners who will attach themselves to a club in the position of eminence at that period of time...some great Liverpool sides back then it has to be said....although I could never admit that at the time to my schoolmates....there was myself and one other fella in the entire Primary school who followed Utd (twas a small school school though)


Mind you the odd cup win through the 80's kept us going.....amazing how important the FA cup once was....even beating Brighton in 83 :)
Best of all was the 85 final...Whiteside's winner...class !!!!!

Mine is practically identical to that

Liverpool ruled but it's made most of the last two decades sweeter

I was a fan of Cork City from their inception but had many years where i didn't go out (The Bishopstown era)

Started going back the odd time about 3 or 4 years ago but work got in the way, but this year i've made a commitment to go to all Friday homes when in Cork

As others have said, i wish more people would try it out and give them a chance, it's great down there

[Rebel Yell]

Mine is practically identical to that

Liverpool ruled but it's made most of the last two decades sweeter

I was a fan of Cork City from their inception but had many years where i didn't go out (The Bishopstown era)

Started going back the odd time about 3 or 4 years ago but work got in the way, but this year i've made a commitment to go to all Friday homes when in Cork

As others have said, i wish more people would try it out and give them a chance, it's great down there

Agreed...summer football has made a lot of difference for the stay away brigade....but still, some of the 'LOI is crap' crew really should give it a go.

*great to see Rovers back in the top division really* I know I should not say that but fuckit.....tis better having them in it ....those games always have a cracking atmosphere out at the cross !!!!

[de mange]

*great to see Rovers back in the top division really* I know I should not say that but fuckit.....tis better having them in it ....those games always have a cracking atmosphere out at the cross !!!!


spot on.. you most find many decent city fans disagreeing with you.. its all about the atmosphere and the dublin citys/ucds of this world bring nothing with them

rovers back where they belong and they'll get a welcome back hammering from city at the cross tonight

we were the team that put them down in dalymount 2 years ago and the rovers fans sang right to the end and wished us well for the title we won a few weeks later

[gregson1]

my bro did... was a man yoooooo fan from early age til early 90's, then lost all interest in footy... then in 97/98 started following Chelsea... wasn't too pleased when I brought it up in my best man speech:)

[STEVIEG]

rovers back where they belong and they'll get a welcome back hammering from city at the cross tonight



:)

[RonnyB]

my bro did... was a man yoooooo fan from early age til early 90's, then lost all interest in footy... then in 97/98 started following Chelsea... wasn't too pleased when I brought it up in my best man speech:)

Had to be done though




(the best man speech not the way he sold out)

[daithi81]

I remember another who supported Newcastle fiercely 10 years ago who doesn't seem to be into football at all now too.

To be honest im one of them, but there is only so much bitter disappointment one man can take in his life.

[Rebel Yell]

To be honest im one of them, but there is only so much bitter disappointment one man can take in his life.


Did I ever tell ye about my buddy ...Leitrim born and bred, now living and working in Liverpool and a lifelong Crewe Alexandra fan.......now THAT's torture :)

[Langer Dan]

Went to school with a fella for years who supported Everton. We became good buddies and the whole Everton connection made it easier to find common ground etc. Then in the 1996/97 season, the fucker decided he would be a Utd fan from there on. Gave me his Everton top n' all. I felt utterly betrayed. Funnily enough we didnt really get on very well after that. Even his brother who also supports Everton lost the plot with him. I saw him there at the weekend when i was home, I was walking through Mahon Point and there he was with his Utd top on.....the dirty fecker. Nothing against Utd fans, just cant stand turncoats. Does anyone else know a turncoat? lets see how prevelant this problem is.

a few people I know changed from Liverpool to Villa in 93'.


heh heh heh.

[KolaKubes]

a few people I know changed from Liverpool to Villa in 93'.


heh heh heh.

Lads, do ye think these disloyal fickle kids grown up to be equally so in other areas of life?

I dunno, I think I'd be suspicious of anyone who changed clubs, particularly late in life.

[wat_boy]

people who change clubs are not passionate about football imo, once you choose a club thats it for life, good times and bad times.

[Philby]

I remember years ago there was some promotion going on with whatever crowd we got our milk delivered from at home - CMP Dairies maybe - where if you collected enough bottle tops or something you could get a kit-bag in your favourite team's colours.

I was really young at the time, maybe about 6, & it was probably before I even realised that there was such a thing as club football. I was mad to get an Ireland one and when I came home one day I found a man utd kit-bag waiting for me, the ireland ones had sold out...I was raging...thinking back that was probably a major factor in me supporting Liverpool!

As much as I dislike Utd now it's still Liverpool first and ABU 2nd, not the other way around like some sad cases you'd come across.

[Langer Dan]

As much as I dislike Utd now it's still Liverpool first and ABU 2nd, not the other way around like some sad cases you'd come across.

sure it is....

[Philby]

sure it is....

I haven't paid the bones of £2k to see United lose a European Cup Final although I might get a chance next month...

[KolaKubes]

As much as I dislike Utd now it's still Liverpool first and ABU 2nd, not the other way around like some sad cases you'd come across.

The crux of this arises when your team are playing and beating the opposition will hand the title to your main rivals.

Do you still want your team to win regardless?

If so, you're a proper fan. If not, you're a wah.

[Superior]

Lads, do ye think these disloyal fickle kids grown up to be equally so in other areas of life?

I dunno, I think I'd be suspicious of anyone who changed clubs, particularly late in life.

St Peter, then a humble fisherman, is an avid fan of Bethsaida. Around about 8 BC (a Tuesday) he sees his team lose 8-0 at home. Leaving a pub later that night he is confronted by a Golgotha FC fan. Peter is mocked for his support but three times denies he supports Bethsaida. Instead he claims he's a neutral. It is not the only time in his life he will deny someone...

Maximilien François Marie Isidore de Robespierre is of PSG's most zealous supporters. Kicked out of the ground, shortly before half-time during a game against Lyon on September 1, 1793 due to possession of a guilliotine, he is enraged. Shaking his powdered wig at a steward he vows revenge. He is refused a refund. On his way home he meets Georges Danton, a Marseilles supporter. They spend the evening drinking absinth. Four days later, in possession of a beastly hangover and a Marseilles shirt, Robespierre unleashes The Terror. By the time it ends 40,000 people are dead.

In August 1939 the Fuhrer, a Rapid Vienna season ticket holder, is spotted in a FK Austria Wien jersey. On September 1 he invades Poland.


I could go on...
The list is long, the evidence irrefutable. Stalwart support of a team is the best indication of a man's character!

[pseudonominous]

It is one thing that I have noticed too!

Fucking ridiculous if you ask me. Almost unbelievable!!!

I knew a fella called Bruce Banner and he'd change from his normal skin colour to green.

Fucking turncoat.