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Roman Abramovich
11-04-2007, 05:22 PM
should he get the sack after the charlton incident?
was it good reffin?
I mean the always say a ref sending a player off ruins a game.

RonnyB
11-04-2007, 05:27 PM
I think a bit of consultation between refs & managers on a helpful basis is good for the game but I think the incident in question sets a dangerous precedent with regards Poll deciding to hand out red cards in future. All managers will look for the same treatment now.

homer jay
11-04-2007, 05:28 PM
i reckon it was a case of him using his head for once. the problem will come when a manager kicks up a shit when he doesn't get a warning that one of his players was on his last chance.

Supersonic_779
11-04-2007, 05:31 PM
What happened?

xvis
11-04-2007, 05:32 PM
should he get the sack after the charlton incident?
was it good reffin?
I mean the always say a ref sending a player off ruins a game.

I thought it was well dodgy.

RonnyB
11-04-2007, 05:33 PM
What happened?

Poll booked Song in the 1st half for a kick/trip at Sidwell. He was involved in a few other fouls as well. Pardew asked Poll to signal when he wont tolerate anymore of Song's fouls so that he could sub him to avoid a red card so Poll gave the signal.

Roman Abramovich
11-04-2007, 05:34 PM
What happened?

pardew went into polls room at halftime and said "songs been booked, hes not a dirty player, just gets excited" Poll agreed and said he'd let him know if it was getting beyond the joke etc.

song made a few tackles and after the 3rd or 4th, poll gave the nod to pardew and pardew took him off.

Supersonic_779
11-04-2007, 06:05 PM
Mmmm, interesting

sounds a bit out of order/unfair

ho chi feen
11-04-2007, 07:24 PM
GRAHAM POLL'S EASTER MONDAY DIARY

7.34am
Wake from sound night's sleep when alarm rings. My, it's early. Yawn!
Never mind; rising with the lark keeps the old brain sharp. Time to
rise and shine. Climb off top of wardrobe and get into bed.

7.35am
No, that can't be right. Get out of bed.

7.37am
Shower and shave. Then get dressed. Shorts on: check. Shirt on:
check. Whistle in pocket: check. Notebook: check. Pencil: check.
Funny flower: check. Fill funny flower with water: check. 7.41am
Smell funny flower.

7.42am
Wah! It's full of water!

7.43am
Dry face, then check calendar. Yay! It's Easter Monday! Rush
downstairs to open presents.

10.08am
Bah! Santa hasn't come. What sort of Easter is it when Santa doesn't
come? Well, if I don't have any pressies to open, I may as well go to
work.

11.01am
Finally remember what work it is I do. Double check I've got my
whistle, notebook and pencil, then rush out the door - but not before
smelling my funny flower.

11.02am
Wah! It's full of water!

11.03am
Dry face, then jump in car with square wheels. Drive off to The
Valley, where I'm down to referee the Serie A clash between Charlton
v Reading in a fair and impartial manner. Honk!

12.32pm
Nearly there! The Valley's just after this approaching roundabout.
Hope I make it for the 5.15pm kick-off.

12.33pm
Bah! Turn on radio and hear kick-off's not until 8pm, so I'm well
early. Drive round roundabout to kill time for seven hours and 26
minutes. Hope I don't get so monumentally dizzy I don't know what the
hell I'm doing.

7.59pm
Stop car. Get out of car. Oh lummee! Not only has the door come clean
off in my hand, I'm so monumentally dizzy I don't know what the hell
I'm doing.

8.45pm
Still spinning out. Luckily nothing happened in the first half, apart
from the time three Alexandre Songs scythed down three Steve
Sidwells. Not for the first time in my career, I dip into one of my
three breast pockets and issue three yellow cards.

8.46pm
Am apprehended by three Alan Pardews, all of whom will later claim:
"I went to see Graham Poll at half-time and said to him I needed to
have a signal if Song was getting close to being sent off. Please let
me know." I give him a look, which the Pardews will later claim "more
or less said it all".

8.47pm - 8.59pm
In an attempt to negate the monumental dizziness, I spend the break
in the referee's room spinning round on my chair in the opposite
direction to before. Hope this doesn't backfire so spectacularly that
I'm even more monumentally dizzy, and subsequently make a ludicrous
decision midway through the second half.

9pm
Cripes! That's torn it. I'm even more monumentally dizzy!

9.24pm
Midway through the second half, I note there are 17 Alexandre Songs
running about - and they're all getting well out of control! I shoot
the Alan Pardews a look. The Pardews round up all the Songs and take
them off the pitch.

9.52pm
Thank God that's over. And I think I got through it without making
myself look like a preposterous buffoon. "Full credit to the
referee," said the Pardews. "Noone wants to see a team go down to 10
men." Yippee! See? I'm great! Though still a bit dizzy; how on earth
am I going to drive home?

9.53pm
Vision suddenly snaps into focus when I consider how Charlton's
relegation rivals - such as Neil Warnock and Paul Jewell - might want
to discuss this matter with me, perhaps using sticks with nails
poking out the end of them as debating tools. Wah!

9.54pm
Drive off in collapsing car at great speed. In my panic to escape, I
leave behind the last scrap of my reputation.

Coin
11-04-2007, 07:35 PM
Rugby referees do that all the time. Players are often warned that if they keep doing something, they'll be booked. At least it makes players feel they're being treated a bit more fairly.

Opposition to this attitude comes from the fact that in soccer and GAA, the referee is seen as the enemy, to be screamed and cursed at whenever possible. I know that there's no way a basketball ref would take any of the abuse that soccer players dish out.

Although I'll qualify that by saying that its the player that should be told to stop, not the manager.

ho chi feen
11-04-2007, 07:40 PM
Rugby referees do that all the time. Players are often warned that if they keep doing something, they'll be booked. At least it makes players feel they're being treated a bit more fairly.

This is often the case in football too.

Although I'll qualify that by saying that its the player that should be told to stop, not the manager.

And therein lies the problem....

liam2me
11-04-2007, 07:59 PM
we had a ref in a friendly GAA football match a while back who called both teams to the middle of the pitch with the managers and told us he would book us if things got out of hand, if it went further he would tell the managers to take us off, if the manager didn't the player would be sent off.

if this was applied across the board then it would be the best thing to happen to refereeing in soccer/GAA since the introduction of the yellow/red card system

kevinbitzz
11-04-2007, 10:52 PM
GRAHAM POLL'S EASTER MONDAY DIARY

7.34am
Wake from sound night's sleep when alarm rings. My, it's early. Yawn!
Never mind; rising with the lark keeps the old brain sharp. Time to
rise and shine. Climb off top of wardrobe and get into bed.

7.35am
No, that can't be right. Get out of bed.

7.37am
Shower and shave. Then get dressed. Shorts on: check. Shirt on:
check. Whistle in pocket: check. Notebook: check. Pencil: check.
Funny flower: check. Fill funny flower with water: check. 7.41am
Smell funny flower.

7.42am
Wah! It's full of water!

7.43am
Dry face, then check calendar. Yay! It's Easter Monday! Rush
downstairs to open presents.

10.08am
Bah! Santa hasn't come. What sort of Easter is it when Santa doesn't
come? Well, if I don't have any pressies to open, I may as well go to
work.

11.01am
Finally remember what work it is I do. Double check I've got my
whistle, notebook and pencil, then rush out the door - but not before
smelling my funny flower.

11.02am
Wah! It's full of water!

11.03am
Dry face, then jump in car with square wheels. Drive off to The
Valley, where I'm down to referee the Serie A clash between Charlton
v Reading in a fair and impartial manner. Honk!

12.32pm
Nearly there! The Valley's just after this approaching roundabout.
Hope I make it for the 5.15pm kick-off.

12.33pm
Bah! Turn on radio and hear kick-off's not until 8pm, so I'm well
early. Drive round roundabout to kill time for seven hours and 26
minutes. Hope I don't get so monumentally dizzy I don't know what the
hell I'm doing.

7.59pm
Stop car. Get out of car. Oh lummee! Not only has the door come clean
off in my hand, I'm so monumentally dizzy I don't know what the hell
I'm doing.

8.45pm
Still spinning out. Luckily nothing happened in the first half, apart
from the time three Alexandre Songs scythed down three Steve
Sidwells. Not for the first time in my career, I dip into one of my
three breast pockets and issue three yellow cards.

8.46pm
Am apprehended by three Alan Pardews, all of whom will later claim:
"I went to see Graham Poll at half-time and said to him I needed to
have a signal if Song was getting close to being sent off. Please let
me know." I give him a look, which the Pardews will later claim "more
or less said it all".

8.47pm - 8.59pm
In an attempt to negate the monumental dizziness, I spend the break
in the referee's room spinning round on my chair in the opposite
direction to before. Hope this doesn't backfire so spectacularly that
I'm even more monumentally dizzy, and subsequently make a ludicrous
decision midway through the second half.

9pm
Cripes! That's torn it. I'm even more monumentally dizzy!

9.24pm
Midway through the second half, I note there are 17 Alexandre Songs
running about - and they're all getting well out of control! I shoot
the Alan Pardews a look. The Pardews round up all the Songs and take
them off the pitch.

9.52pm
Thank God that's over. And I think I got through it without making
myself look like a preposterous buffoon. "Full credit to the
referee," said the Pardews. "Noone wants to see a team go down to 10
men." Yippee! See? I'm great! Though still a bit dizzy; how on earth
am I going to drive home?

9.53pm
Vision suddenly snaps into focus when I consider how Charlton's
relegation rivals - such as Neil Warnock and Paul Jewell - might want
to discuss this matter with me, perhaps using sticks with nails
poking out the end of them as debating tools. Wah!

9.54pm
Drive off in collapsing car at great speed. In my panic to escape, I
leave behind the last scrap of my reputation.




i think this quote is worth somewhere between £4 and £6 quid.


a Fiver methinks :D

ho chi feen
11-04-2007, 11:36 PM
i think this quote is worth somewhere between £4 and £6 quid.


a Fiver methinks :D

Yup.

Forsberg
11-05-2007, 03:27 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=poll-quits%26method=full% 26objectid=19084382% 26siteid=89520-name_page.html

POLL QUITS
EXCLUSIVE Controversial ref blows whistle on his career this Sunday
By John Cross 11/05/2007

GRAHAM POLL has dramatically decided to quit refereeing.

His last game will be Portsmouth's Premiership clash with Arsenal on Sunday.

Poll will end his career early after becoming fed up with the abuse that goes with being the most controversial and high-profile official in English football.
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The 43-year-old was publicly ridiculed for his World Cup blunder last summer when he showed three yellow cards to Croatia's Josip Simunic.

Referees' chief Keith Hackett tried to persuade Poll to change his mind.

But Poll, who could have carried on for at least another six years, would not be swayed and was adamant the match at Fratton Park would be his last at the top level. Poll retired from refereeing in international finals after the gaffe in Germany, which put paid to any chance he had of being awarded the World Cup Final.

He was still hoping to be put in charge of this season's Champions League Final, only for that to be scuppered by Liverpool being one of the finalists.

He has been involved in controversy this season after sending off Chelsea captain John Terry during their defeat at Tottenham.

Chelsea players claimed Poll said they needed to be "taught a lesson" but he was later cleared of any wrongdoing by the Premier League.

Nicknamed the Thing From Tring by fans after the Hertfordshire town where he lives, Poll also dismissed Everton's James McFadden in November for allegedly calling him a "cheat" when he waved away a penalty claim for a foul on Andrew Johnson.

His latest run-in was with Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho on Wednesday, the pair exchanging angry words during the goalless draw with Manchester United.

It is believes there was jealousy and bitterness among his fellow officials who felt Poll received special treatment.

EDDIEB
11-05-2007, 03:31 PM
Sunderland get promoted under Roys guidance.

Poll quits........?

west cork rebel
11-05-2007, 05:43 PM
oh no he don't...
Keith Hacket the head of referees says he will not resign, and says he has Poll lined up for more games.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6646739.stm

STEVIEG
11-05-2007, 05:47 PM
It's the wrong Pol who is calling it a day:)