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pudgee
26-03-2007, 04:11 PM
Fair play to the lads


NI deal struck in historic talks
Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams
Historic day: The two leaders sat side by side
Devolved government is to return to Northern Ireland following an historic meeting between the leaders of the DUP and Sinn Fein.

Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams, sitting side by side for their first news conference in Stormont, confirmed that power-sharing would begin on 8 May.

Mr Paisley said the DUP was committed to full participation in government and Mr Adams said it was a "new era".

Tony Blair said it was a very important day for the people of Northern Ireland.

The British and Irish governments had said they would shut the assembly if an executive was not agreed on Monday.

After the meeting, Mr Paisley said: "Our goal has been to see devolution returned in a context where it can make a real, meaningful improvement in the lives of all the people of this part of the United Kingdom.

"On Saturday, the DUP executive overwhelmingly endorsed a motion committing our party to support and participate fully in government in May of this year - this is a binding resolution."

Mr Adams said he welcomed Mr Paisley's statement.

"I believe the agreement reached between Sinn Fein and the DUP - including the unequivocal commitment made by their party executive and reiterated today - to the restoration of political institutions on 8 May marks the beginning of a new era of politics on this island," he said.


Everything we have done over the last ten years has been a preparation for this moment
Tony Blair

Gerry Adams's statement
Ian Paisley's statement

"The basis of the agreement between Sinn Fein and the DUP follows Ian Paisley's unequivocal and welcome commitment to support and participate fully in the political institutions on 8 May."

Prime Minister Tony Blair said it was "a very important day for the people of Northern Ireland, but also for the people and the history of these islands".

"Everything we have done over the last ten years has been a preparation for this moment."

Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern said this had "the potential to transform the future of this island".

"This morning saw unprecedented and very positive developments in Northern Ireland."

Mr Hain said: "When you have got both major parties saying we will deliver... that gives me confidence that this process is finally achieved."

He said people now wanted their politicians to concentrate on "bread and butter issues".

Mr Hain said a one-clause emergency bill should go through Parliament on Tuesday before midnight, which would enable the process to go forward smoothly.

After 8 May, he said there would still be a need for a Secretary of State, as well as ministers, until there was devolution in justice and policing.

Water 'reprieve'

Both Sinn Fein and the DUP have asked the British government not to issue water bills due to be sent out this week for the first time.

Until now, people in Northern Ireland have not had to pay separate charges for their water supply. But the government has moved to change this, in line with the rest of the United Kingdom.

Speaking after Mr Paisley and Mr Adams' historic news conference, SDLP leader Mark Durkan while welcoming the development, said he could not understand why devolution could not happen on Monday.


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The Ulster Unionist leader Sir Reg Empey said the DUP could have got the same deal much earlier.

An order signed by the NI secretary restarted devolution at midnight.

In the assembly election earlier this month, the DUP and Sinn Fein emerged as the two largest parties.

Chancellor Gordon Brown promised an extra £1bn if devolution was back on Monday on top of £35bn pledged by the government over four years.

The power-sharing executive will have four DUP ministers, three Sinn Fein, two UUP and one SDLP.

The Northern Ireland Assembly has been suspended since October 2002, amid allegations of an IRA spy ring at Stormont.

A subsequent court case collapsed. Direct rule has been in place since that date.

Downward Facing God
26-03-2007, 04:13 PM
Great. Now let that be an end to it.

Wumble
26-03-2007, 04:15 PM
Not while they keep saying "Irish Prime Minister".

Death to the In Fiddles!

northmallexile
26-03-2007, 04:18 PM
Not while they keep saying "Irish Prime Minister".

Death to the In Fiddles!

I was trying to decide whether "Irish Prime Minister" or "Irish Premier" was worse over the weekend.


Oh yeah, peace in our time, end to 40+ years of sectarian division and bloodshed etc. Huzzah!

Wampire
26-03-2007, 04:19 PM
It'll be just in time for the Dáil elections.

EDDIEB
26-03-2007, 04:19 PM
Not while they keep saying "Irish Prime Minister".

Death to the In Fiddles!

Exactly the sooner the start calling him "The Teashop" the better.

EDDIEB
26-03-2007, 04:22 PM
It'll be just in time for the Dáil elections.

And the marching season.

Tube a Pringles
26-03-2007, 04:23 PM
The Ulster Unionist leader Sir Reg Empey said the DUP could have got the same deal much earlier.

.

Should read "UUP" I think......

.......and that's the best he could come up with....

northmallexile
26-03-2007, 04:37 PM
Time for a caption competition, so. Best suggestion gets a Gerry 'n Ian commemorative tea-towel.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif

bananaman
26-03-2007, 04:38 PM
Time for a caption competition, so. Best suggestion gets a Gerry 'n Ian commemorative tea-towel.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif

"And then we realised that all the bickering was because we were actually in love with each other"

pudgee
26-03-2007, 04:41 PM
Time for a caption competition, so. Best suggestion gets a Gerry 'n Ian commemorative tea-towel.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif

While ideally Ian and Gerry would've preferred a church wedding to a civil ceremony, they certainly couldn't fault the wonderful reception.

Downward Facing God
26-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Time for a caption competition, so. Best suggestion gets a Gerry 'n Ian commemorative tea-towel.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif

When asked if that was his foot Ian's response was predictable.

Professor Piehead
26-03-2007, 04:48 PM
Time for a caption competition, so. Best suggestion gets a Gerry 'n Ian commemorative tea-towel.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif

Gerry 'You have been a complete bastard for many years Ian'

Ian 'Yes Gerry I have'

Gerry 'agreed'

Wumble
26-03-2007, 04:48 PM
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif
"Gerry was smug. His shrinking-ray had worked. The former
"Big Yin" would now be his slave, for ever and ever."

Tube a Pringles
26-03-2007, 04:52 PM
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif

Using the powers of advanced Republicanism, Gerry Adams levitates a large flower arrangement in front of Ian Paisley. Paisley refused to acknowledge the levitation....and looked away.....slightly... to the right.

Downward Facing God
26-03-2007, 04:53 PM
Reporter: Do you think this is the start of a 32 county republic?
Ian: Ní thigum.

bananaman
26-03-2007, 04:54 PM
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif


"I spiked his water with vodka. After that he was a pushover"

ubernerd
26-03-2007, 05:04 PM
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif

Photoshop, probably the best photo editor in the world.

Jim Comic
26-03-2007, 05:07 PM
praise the lord and pass the ammunition

cantankerous bastard
26-03-2007, 05:25 PM
Well fuck me pink like, just reading the timeline on BBC would give you a headache, so many maybes, fuckups, stalls, blended in with atrocities here and there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4072261.stm

I'll freely admit that I'm not the most learned on this topic because I find the trudging pace of progress so fucking boring I've lost touch with whats going on a number of times, but one of the main things that sticks in my head in reading those timelines is why the hell is there never pressure on loyalist paramilitaries in the same way there is on the IRA?

They should both be put under the same bloody pressure.

That and all of this bloody colllusion with the police and MI5, it really is a wonder that this day came.

Blog on it is good too...bit from that below:
I recall as a young TV producer accompanying Paisley in a lift in BBC Belfast in 1994. All were nervy. We were escorting him to take part in what - if memory serves me right - was the first ever debate involving both Sinn Fein and the DUP. Actually, though both sides appeared in the same studio they weren't ever there at the same time. What's more, they were kept on different floors of the building to avoid meeting. The lift was the weak link in this carefully worked out plan. On this night it stopped, the doors opened and Paisley and I were confronted by a grinning Adams. "Hello Ian" he beamed. Paisley glowered back as an aide jabbed the button to close the doors. Naturally, they took an age to close. The smile on Adams's face increased.

rest here--> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/

Wumble
26-03-2007, 05:27 PM
"I recall as a young TV producer accompanying Paisley in a lift in BBC Belfast in 1994. All were nervy. We were escorting him to take part in what - if memory serves me right - was the first ever debate involving both Sinn Fein and the DUP. Actually, though both sides appeared in the same studio they weren't ever there at the same time. What's more, they were kept on different floors of the building to avoid meeting. The lift was the weak link in this carefully worked out plan. On this night it stopped, the doors opened and Paisley and I were confronted by a grinning Adams. "Hello Ian" he beamed. Paisley glowered back as an aide jabbed the button to close the doors. Naturally, they took an age to close. The smile on Adams's face increased."

I've heard Martin McGuinness telling that story from the "outside the lift" POV. Gerry wanted to run up to the next floor and stand outside the lift again.

Some hoot.

Jim Comic
26-03-2007, 05:30 PM
I've heard Martin McGuinness telling that story from the "outside the lift" POV. Gerry wanted to run up to the next floor and stand outside the lift again.

Some hoot.


tee hee, shinners with a sense of humour, who'dathunkit??!!??

Wumble
26-03-2007, 05:32 PM
They can be a fierce funny bunch, bless 'em.

Martin McGuinness is quite the talented mimic.

northmallexile
26-03-2007, 05:40 PM
Actually, question: why is it that all the talk is of Paisley as First Minister and McGuinness as his deputy? Is it because Adams wants to be seen as the leader of Sinn Féin, North & South?

Wumble
26-03-2007, 05:42 PM
He has enough on his plate, and McGuinness is the better negotiator. And the better public speaker.

And Ian secretly loves his curls.

Tube a Pringles
26-03-2007, 05:47 PM
What is the official language of the assembly? Will Martin Mc be firing memos of to Paisley in Irish?

pudgee
26-03-2007, 05:48 PM
What is the official language of the assembly? Will Martin Mc be firing memos of to Paisley in Irish?

English, Irish, and Ulster Scots. It's all a sinister conspiracy by the translators' union.

And the Jews, obviously.

Wumble
26-03-2007, 05:53 PM
Tha Boord o' Ulster Scotch - a Jew's paradise.

Downward Facing God
26-03-2007, 06:19 PM
English, Irish, and Ulster Scots. It's all a sinister conspiracy by the translators' union.

And the Jews, obviously.
More unionist intransigance.

northmallexile
27-03-2007, 11:12 AM
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/steve_bell/2007/03/26/steve.jpg

Professor Piehead
27-03-2007, 11:21 AM
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/2005/images/ianpaisley.jpg

finn the feenian
27-03-2007, 01:36 PM
stormont in a tea cup

At a table for two. Gerry from the Adams Family asks: "More tea vicar?".
"Never!", scowled the Jaffa cake eating reverend.
"Coffee?", ask Gerry politely.
"Never!", scowled the British Bulldog with a strong Northern Ireland accent.
"Perhaps, a biscuit?" Gerry asked holding out a Bonio as a peace offering.
"Never!", scowled the rabid dog.
"How's about a drop of Guinness?", Mr Adams inquired.
"NEVER!", scowled the last man standing from Cromwell's Army.
"To be sure you'd like a chocolate eclair?".
"Go on then, you're a man after my own heart", the reverend conceded.

finn the feenian
27-03-2007, 01:43 PM
Time for a caption competition, so. Best suggestion gets a Gerry 'n Ian commemorative tea-towel.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2007/03/26/adams372.gif


The man and woman from the Department of Brain Transplants looked on as Gerry declared his love of the Queen, while Ian waxed lyrically as Gaelige, and announced his plans to retire to An Daingean.

Gobadán
27-03-2007, 02:52 PM
What is the official language of the assembly? Will Martin Mc be firing memos of to Paisley in Irish?

Adams' Irish is very poor - he's completely unaware of the genitive case, by all accounts.

I've heard him say:

"ar fud an tír" (na tíre)

and a howler last night:

Is tús maith leath an obair (tús maith leath na hoibre).

I sincerely hope he will cease and desist at this tokenry, it's like we did in the Free State for far too long.



.

Wumble
27-03-2007, 06:28 PM
We had it from birth or we were taught in school. Gerry and his gerryeneration learned back-alley Irish as best they could.

Here's another one for you: Is fearr Gaelinn briste ná Bearla cliste.

pudgee
27-03-2007, 06:34 PM
We had it from birth or we were taught in school. Gerry and his gerryeneration learned back-alley Irish as best they could.

Here's another one for you: Is fearr Gaelinn briste ná Bearla cliste.

Agus, er.
Remember back On Good Friday 98 when he started the press conference by asking 'an bhfuil einne o TnaG anseo?'?

There wasn't. The fools

Ciotóg
27-03-2007, 06:35 PM
Paisley denies his jaw is bigger than his head.

Unknown Legend
15-07-2008, 11:55 PM
We had it from birth or we were taught in school. Gerry and his gerryeneration learned back-alley Irish as best they could.

Here's another one for you: Is fearr Gaelinn briste ná Bearla cliste.

Maith an Fear !