The Official Everton Thread

[Forsberg]

Well seing as though all you gloryhunting , bandwagon jumping top 4 supporters have you own thread then it's time for an Everton one.

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EVERTON NET £1M SWINDON TEENAGER

Teenager Lukas Jutkiewicz has agreed a move to Barclays Premiership side Everton that could earn Swindon Town £1million.

The Daily Press understands the 17-year-old striker signed a four-year contract with David Moyes' side earlier this week after the clubs agreed a down payment of around £400,000.

The remainder of the £1m fee will be dependent on Jutkiewicz establishing himself in the Everton first team, with various clauses related to appearances and goals.

Jutkiewicz will stay at Swindon until the transfer window reopens at the end of the season, so will be available for selection in their remaining 10 League Two games.

Swindon manager Paul Sturrock declined to comment on the transfer yesterday.

Jutkiewicz leapt to prominence before Christmas when he scored a terrific goal in the 2-0 win at the then league leaders Walsall.

It was the first of three goals in four games, but since the turn of the year he has been on the bench.

Nonetheless, he has attracted a lot of attention and Everton scout Tony Fawthrop, who is based in Bristol and was on the coaching staff at Bristol City for many years, watched him very closely.

Swindon signed Jutkiewicz when he was released by Southampton as a 14-year-old.

Former youth development officer Jimmy Fraser, now working at Chelsea, gave the player a second chance and his judgement has paid off handsomely.

Third-placed Swindon resume their League Two promotion challenge with an away game against Grimsby Town tomorrow.

Good to see that the Everton scouts are at least attempting to do their jobs

Very rare to see Moyes spend some money on youngsters so I'd hold out hope that this guy could be good

[homer jay]

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couldn't resist ;)

[Forsberg]

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couldn't resist ;)

You know nothing about the rule of posting tumbleweed in threads
Nothing




You have to at least wait 20 minutes :wink:

[homer jay]

charity post

[Forsberg]

:mad: :mad:

Stop ruining my thread .

Ye have ye're own thread

Don't you and Philby have to discuss the merits of Liverpools new tea lady or something?

[jimmy magee]

ehhhhh...Andy Johnson is a good player, suited to the premiership's pace and birdbrainisms..thats about al i can say for everton at the mo :cool:

[homer jay]

:mad: :mad:

Stop ruining my thread .

Ye have ye're own thread

Don't you and Philby have to discuss the merits of Liverpools new tea lady or something?

i was saving the discussion on the tea lady for a day when i'm less busy.

seriously tho...

good win for yis on sunday. what's the deal with moyes getting a bit of dough to spend in the summer? have ya seen anything of this fella? quite the sum of money for a 17 year old.

[Forsberg]

i was saving the discussion on the tea lady for a day when i'm less busy.

seriously tho...

good win for yis on sunday. what's the deal with moyes getting a bit of dough to spend in the summer? have ya seen anything of this fella? quite the sum of money for a 17 year old.


I know nothing about this lad so I'm going on the assumption that 1m for a 17 year oild must mean he's good. In fairness to Moyes , he's been pretty handy in the transfer market.

Apparently Everton will have a bit to spend in the summer alright. I'd take Fernandes on a permanent with Nugent and a winger to be honest . It hink we're set up from there . Moyes insn't one to overload on new players and I think it's working

[EL TORO]

I like it Forsberg! Its about time the England's longest serving top flight team had its own Thread. I'm a bit unsure about this young lad, especially when we already have a crop of home grown talent trying to break through, all I can think is this lad must be good to warrant the expenditure of our carefully managed funds. As for the rest of the season, It'll go one of two ways. We'll stride on now and complete a great season by qualifying for the Uefa Cup, or we'll beat the likes of the gooners then slip up against Bolton, Villa etc. I'm expecting a positive finish this year though. The talent is there now and I think the belief is there aswell which is a massive factor in maintaining the good run we're on. COYB!!

[Forsberg]

I like it Forsberg! Its about time the England's longest serving top flight team had its own Thread. I'm a bit unsure about this young lad, especially when we already have a crop of home grown talent trying to break through, all I can think is this lad must be good to warrant the expenditure of our carefully managed funds. As for the rest of the season, It'll go one of two ways. We'll stride on now and complete a great season by qualifying for the Uefa Cup, or we'll beat the likes of the gooners then slip up against Bolton, Villa etc. I'm expecting a positive finish this year though. The talent is there now and I think the belief is there aswell which is a massive factor in maintaining the good run we're on. COYB!!


It's gonna be a tight run in alright. I'm optomistic though . I alway find that Everton are a much tighter team when Cahill isn't playing and I think that will suit for the run in . I'm not too bothered about the style of football for the rest of the season to be honest, Uefa qualification is more important than entertainment at this stage. . That will come next season hopefully

[RonnyB]

Is Fernandes on loan or did they sign him for keeps?

[Forsberg]

Is Fernandes on loan or did they sign him for keeps?


On loan . It looks like it'll take in the region of £10m to sign him up permanantly. That's slightly too much imo but he's a class act and will only get better , so I'm torn .If other players can be added along with him then I snap him up in an instant ,but if that would be the only signing of the summer then I'd be very hesitant

[RonnyB]

I've seen a bit of him and he's looked good. Has been linked with United as well but the interest & rumours have dies since Hargreaves began to whore himself to United.

[Forsberg]

I've seen a bit of him and he's looked good. Has been linked with United as well but the interest & rumours have dies since Hargreaves began to whore himself to United.

A lot of big clubs were interested , but were put off by the fact that he is half owned by that Media Sports co that owns Tevez and Mascherano. I have a feeling that this could get very messy should Everton pursue it but that wouldn't be anyting new for Everton - the kings of messy tranfers

[homer jay]

On loan . It looks like it'll take in the region of £10m to sign him up permanantly. That's slightly too much imo but he's a class act and will only get better , so I'm torn .If other players can be added along with him then I snap him up in an instant ,but if that would be the only signing of the summer then I'd be very hesitant

he's done well, but £10m is an awful lot of money. i don't think everton should blow their budget on one player, they need to raise the standard of the squad as a whole.

[Mr Jefferson]

What do you think of the proposed ground move?
I'm against it.
I know we can't stay at Goodison as it is but I don't think we should move out of desperation.
If only we had found the money for Kings Dock....

[EL TORO]

What do you think of the proposed ground move?
I'm against it.
I know we can't stay at Goodison as it is but I don't think we should move out of desperation.
If only we had found the money for Kings Dock....

We need to move, no question about that. The feeling amongst the fans over here is that the club arent taking their feelings into account. Nothing new there! The king's dock would have been great but we simply didnt have the money. As for the Knowsley deal, I'm of the opinion that in the long run it'll be the clever move that sets us back on the right road to success. At the moment we are the second club in Liverpool as regards overall success, this will not be the case if we move outside the city boundaries. There are many pros and cons to this arguement, but the overllying factor is that we need a bigger ground , a bigger income and a steadier ship. I love going to the old lady every 2nd saturday and taking in the atmosphere around county road etc, but time waits for no man and football is all about progression.

[Forsberg]

We need to move, no question about that. The feeling amongst the fans over here is that the club arent taking their feelings into account. Nothing new there! The king's dock would have been great but we simply didnt have the money. As for the Knowsley deal, I'm of the opinion that in the long run it'll be the clever move that sets us back on the right road to success. At the moment we are the second club in Liverpool as regards overall success, this will not be the case if we move outside the city boundaries. There are many pros and cons to this arguement, but the overllying factor is that we need a bigger ground , a bigger income and a steadier ship. I love going to the old lady every 2nd saturday and taking in the atmosphere around county road etc, but time waits for no man and football is all about progression.

It's gonna upset people no matter what happens really . Ideally the fans would love to see Goodison redeveloped but I really don't se that happening at all . There is a feeling that the way the city is developing that it won't be too long before Kirkb will be within the city boundaries . You'd know more about that than me El Toro.

If the move goes ahead then it looks like the stadium will prbably be based on FC Colognes stadium

http://www.fussballportal.d e/bundesliga/stadien/imago01036439m.jpg

Which i must say i like . Very British and a nice change from all the new style oval type stadiums - Man City , Arse etc

[jimmy magee]

Nice lookin stadium alright...
maybe ye could sign Steven Taylor and ye'd be sorted then...:lol:

[Forsberg]

Nice lookin stadium alright...
maybe ye could sign Steven Taylor and ye'd be sorted then...:lol:
Na we don't need a central defender just yet . Good young player though .

[Mr Jefferson]

I'm worried the new stadium will more closely resemble this...

http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50353472/Plastic_Shopping_Bas ket.jpg

Very very british

[EL TORO]

It's gonna upset people no matter what happens really . Ideally the fans would love to see Goodison redeveloped but I really don't se that happening at all . There is a feeling that the way the city is developing that it won't be too long before Kirkb will be within the city boundaries . You'd know more about that than me El Toro.

If the move goes ahead then it looks like the stadium will prbably be based on FC Colognes stadium

http://www.fussballportal.d e/bundesliga/stadien/imago01036439m.jpg

Which i must say i like . Very British and a nice change from all the new style oval type stadiums - Man City , Arse etc

A nice looking ground if it happens! As long as we dont go down the road of the identakit stadiums ie Middlesbrough, Sunderland etc. I sit in the Park end at Goodison so I have no worries with obstructed views but having sat on the odd occasion in the main stand or the Bullens I can see why people refuse to pay £35.00 to watch a game from behind a pillar. Goodison is a beautiful ground but by today's standards is severly outdated. I cant wait to oneday take my son (whose a distant vision at the moment) to a spanking new ground where the Blues are a force to be reckoned with again. The atmosphere at the new ground may even be better than the current one. Unless we have just scored or have been on the recieving end of a poor decision Goodison is like a graveyard on most days.

[jimmy magee]

Na we don't need a central defender just yet . Good young player though .

eh i was taking the piss.. he is complete tripe

[Forsberg]

eh i was taking the piss.. he is complete tripe
I know you were taking the piss .

I'm of the opinion that for a 21 year old he's pretty good and has been playing pretty well for Newcastle this season . I'm not making him out to be world class or anything

[Forsberg]

More news on the stadium

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/e/everton/6474471.stm

[EL TORO]

More news on the stadium

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/e/everton/6474471.stm

Do you ever visit toffeeweb.com Forsberg? This debate has been raging on the site for months. I dont really subscribe to most of their ideas but they do give an overall picture of the whole relocation subject. Their views on Moyes however are way over the top.

[Forsberg]

Do you ever visit toffeeweb.com Forsberg? This debate has been raging on the site for months. I dont really subscribe to most of their ideas but they do give an overall picture of the whole relocation subject. Their views on Moyes however are way over the top.

Ya i go there a bit. It's not a bad site at all . I'm not too fond of the forum though . There seems to be very little in the way of constructive debate and it has that "your either for us or against us" mentality where if you criticise , your instantly a red. So i go there for a gander every now and then but don't really post there

[EL TORO]

Ya i go there a bit. It's not a bad site at all . I'm not too fond of the forum though . There seems to be very little in the way of constructive debate and it has that "your either for us or against us" mentality where if you criticise , your instantly a red. So i go there for a gander every now and then but don't really post there

Pretty much my sentiments aswell. Theres a bloke who sits in front of me at Goodison and im sure he's one of the moderators on that site. All he does all game is slate Carsley et al. Although he was strangely quiet on Sunday. Toffeeweb seems to be some kind of punching bag for tisgruntled toffees, always quick to criticise but never around to eat humble pie. Do you ever get over for a game?

[Forsberg]

Pretty much my sentiments aswell. Theres a bloke who sits in front of me at Goodison and im sure he's one of the moderators on that site. All he does all game is slate Carsley et al. Although he was strangely quiet on Sunday. Toffeeweb seems to be some kind of punching bag for tisgruntled toffees, always quick to criticise but never around to eat humble pie. Do you ever get over for a game?

Not recently unfortuantely . I was lving away for a good while and haven't really got the chance this season since I've come home but i'm planning on a few trips next season definitely .

[EL TORO]

Not recently unfortuantely . I was lving away for a good while and haven't really got the chance this season since I've come home but i'm planning on a few trips next season definitely .

Good man, Let me know if you need tickets and so on. Dont buy them off the site, the allocation is terrible. Its always the seats at the back of the Gladwys st or up the back of the main stand. Might even have a few European nights at the old girl next year!

[Forsberg]

Good man, Let me know if you need tickets and so on. Dont buy them off the site, the allocation is terrible. Its always the seats at the back of the Gladwys st or up the back of the main stand. Might even have a few European nights at the old girl next year!


Let's pray that we don't draw any team from Romania in the first round though :oops:

[Mr Jefferson]

Toffeeweb seems to be some kind of punching bag for tisgruntled toffees, always quick to criticise but never around to eat humble pie.

Sounds familiar

[stevetharlear]

Good Man Forsberg, never realised there were as many Toffee fans in Cork as there are. I spent my youth half hiding the fact, but as I hit 20ish I started to meet loads of us, all coming of age and unable to control our urges privately. Now i'm out of the closet big style and have never felt so liberated. mon the Toffee's.

FUCK THE RED SCUM!

[EL TORO]

Good Man Forsberg, never realised there were as many Toffee fans in Cork as there are. I spent my youth half hiding the fact, but as I hit 20ish I started to meet loads of us, all coming of age and unable to control our urges privately. Now i'm out of the closet big style and have never felt so liberated. mon the Toffee's.

FUCK THE RED SCUM!

Christ Steve, did you live through the glorious 90's without letting on you were an Evertonian. Surely the anguished look on your face every may must have given it away. Remember when i was in secondary school and all the UTD and Liverpool fellas would be taking the piss, I just pointed out that the only thing more exciting than a championship run is a good ol' relegation scrap....Gareth Farrelly anyone? possibly Graham Stuart......Days well and gone now, Bring on Europe Mr Moyes!!! Come out you lost Evertonians , Come out!!!!!

[Mr Jefferson]

spent my youth half hiding the fact, but as I hit 20ish I started to meet loads of us, all coming of age and unable to control our urges privately. Now i'm out of the closet big style and have never felt so liberated. mon the Toffee's.


Really?!!

I've always felt really luck to be an Evertonian! It never matters how the game goes I still feel that we are superior. When I hear Z cars the blood pounds and the heart lifts....

Always remember ...

"Evertonians are born not manufactured, We do not choose, We are chosen, Those who understand need no explanation, those who don't............... ........don't matter!"

[EL TORO]

Really?!!

I've always felt really luck to be an Evertonian! It never matters how the game goes I still feel that we are superior. When I hear Z cars the blood pounds and the heart lifts....Always remember ...

"Evertonians are born not manufactured, We do not choose, We are chosen, Those who understand need no explanation, those who don't............... ........don't matter!"

LOVE IT!!

[FL4ZGN]

What Everton player has been in three European Championship squads but never in a world cup squad.

[Roman Abramovich]

i know three everton fans, two are young and one is old. they everton fans meet up in nevadas for pints for the televised games.

not many meet ups then
;)

[Philby]

This thread is decidedly "small"..... ;-)

[EL TORO]

What Everton player has been in three European Championship squads but never in a world cup squad.

AJ?

[STEVIEG]

Everton fans might get a kick out of this

I'll always remember being down in my bedroom in the mid 80's trying to get coverage on BBC radio of a Man United-Everton game (think it was on a Stephens Day at Old Trafford)

Anyway, the dodgy signal got through and this young fan was over the moon when United actually got a result against the Blues, who were then the top dogs in the League next to Liverpool-that United could get a result against mighty Everton (think Mark Hughes scored) was a very big deal and mad my day:) when i remember back to those days it's puts relatively bad times into perspective (United had a bad season last season)

As a fan, you can really appreciate the good times when you have lived through the leaner ones

BTW a top club who I have always had time for

[FL4ZGN]

AJ?

No

[STEVIEG]

Would have said Trevor Steven or Gary Stevens but think they both played in the 86 World Cup

[EL TORO]

No
Big Nev Southall

[EL TORO]

Everton fans might get a kick out of this

I'll always remember being down in my bedroom in the mid 80's trying to get coverage on BBC radio of a Man United-Everton game (think it was on a Stephens Day at Old Trafford)

Anyway, the dodgy signal got through and this young fan was over the moon when United actually got a result against the Blues, who were then the top dogs in the League next to Liverpool-that United could get a result against mighty Everton (think Mark Hughes scored) was a very big deal and mad my day:) when i remember back to those days it's puts relatively bad times into perspective (United had a bad season last season)

As a fan, you can really appreciate the good times when you have lived through the leaner ones

BTW a top club who I have always had time for

Thanks for the memories steve. I was watching ESPN classics a few weeks ago, when they were showing loads of Everton's games from the mid eighties, referring to us as the Champions....God it almost brought a tear to my eye. We were an awesome team who were denied greatness. All that is water under the bridge now, but some people would do well to remember that football is cyclical. Favourite dodgy bbc5 radio game was the 4-4 merseyside derby fa cup game at Goodison. My ol'man is a red and we were moving all over the house trying to get a better reception on the radio. It was an eight goal thriller and probably one of those father son moments i will never forget.

[STEVIEG]

Thanks for the memories steve. I was watching ESPN classics a few weeks ago, when they were showing loads of Everton's games from the mid eighties, referring to us as the Champions....God it almost brought a tear to my eye. We were an awesome team who were denied greatness. All that is water under the bridge now, but some people would do well to remember that football is cyclical. Favourite dodgy bbc5 radio game was the 4-4 merseyside derby fa cup game at Goodison. My ol'man is a red and we were moving all over the house trying to get a better reception on the radio. It was an eight goal thriller and probably one of those father son moments i will never forget.

That was the one that Kenny Daglish left after?

Wasn't one of the teams leading 4 times in the one game?

Great game that

Yeah i watch those ESPN classics a lot some great footage in fairness

[homer jay]

Thanks for the memories steve. I was watching ESPN classics a few weeks ago, when they were showing loads of Everton's games from the mid eighties, referring to us as the Champions....God it almost brought a tear to my eye. We were an awesome team who were denied greatness. All that is water under the bridge now, but some people would do well to remember that football is cyclical. Favourite dodgy bbc5 radio game was the 4-4 merseyside derby fa cup game at Goodison. My ol'man is a red and we were moving all over the house trying to get a better reception on the radio. It was an eight goal thriller and probably one of those father son moments i will never forget.

that game was unreal. my dad's a toffee, so i know how ya feel.

i'd say my favourite bbc 5 one was the 3-3 draw with the mancs.

[EL TORO]

That was the one that Kenny Daglish left after?

Wasn't one of the teams leading 4 times in the one game?

Great game that

Yeah i watch those ESPN classics a lot some great footage in fairness

I think it went Beardsley, Sharp, Rush,Sharp, Rush,Cottee, Barnes , Cottee.

Liverpool's defending was dire but what a fecking game. Kenny left after that one. We won the replay 1-0 and then went out in the next round to West ham...Typical 90's Everton.

[FL4ZGN]

Big Nev Southall

No.


And Stevie you SHOULD know this.

[Forsberg]

Everton fans might get a kick out of this

I'll always remember being down in my bedroom in the mid 80's trying to get coverage on BBC radio of a Man United-Everton game (think it was on a Stephens Day at Old Trafford)

Anyway, the dodgy signal got through and this young fan was over the moon when United actually got a result against the Blues, who were then the top dogs in the League next to Liverpool-that United could get a result against mighty Everton (think Mark Hughes scored) was a very big deal and mad my day:) when i remember back to those days it's puts relatively bad times into perspective (United had a bad season last season)

As a fan, you can really appreciate the good times when you have lived through the leaner ones

BTW a top club who I have always had time for

Ha class.

That actually reminds me of of the time Everton drew 4-4 against Liverpool in the cup . That game wasn't live on TV so my whole family ( mum and sister are Liverpool fans and my Old Man is United) and I sat around the radio in the front room listening to the game on 606. The reception back in those days was atrocious and evertime the there was a chance the reception would gobecause of the noise . So it always took about 30 seconds afterwards to know if it was a goal . Needless to say there were a lot of those moments in this game . None worse than Cottee's equaliser in extra time . I remember putting my ear up to the speaker like a langer to try and hear. I was going mental . I f anyone saw us that night we'd have been commited to a mental asylum.

This was right around the time that Skysports was about to go on air but I t wasn't on yet so they showed the replay on Sky Movies . That game was built so much that obviously in the end it was an awful game but Everton still won 1-0. Typical Sky really

[STEVIEG]

TBT is this a trick question referring to the Cork Everton?

I'm confused

[Forsberg]

What Everton player has been in three European Championship squads but never in a world cup squad.

Phil??

[EL TORO]

is it phil neville?

just seen yours forsberg.... great minds....

[STEVIEG]

Darn :(

[FL4ZGN]

It's Phil Neville

England squad at the 1996, 2000 and 2004 European Championships, and having 55 England caps, has never been in an England World Cup squad.

[Mr Jefferson]

It's Phil Neville

England squad at the 1996, 2000 and 2004 European Championships, and having 55 England caps, has never been in an England World Cup squad.

My money was on Nigel Martin.

[homer jay]

It's Phil Neville

England squad at the 1996, 2000 and 2004 European Championships, and having 55 England caps, has never been in an England World Cup squad.

how did he manage to get 55 caps for england?

[FL4ZGN]

how did he manage to get 55 caps for england?

By playing 55 games for England.

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[Philby]

If I was English I'd be slightly embarrassed that the Neville brothers will this weekend overtake the Charlton brothers England caps total...

[FL4ZGN]

If I was English I'd be slightly embarrassed that the Neville brothers will this weekend overtake the Charlton brothers England caps total...

Why?

[Philby]

They're pants.

[FL4ZGN]

They're pants.

They sure are.

Phil has six Premierships, three FA Cups and the European Cup to go with his 55 England caps.

While his elder brother Gary has six Premiership titles, three FA Cups, one European Cup and one League Cup to go with his 85 England caps. He has also held the right back position for some eleven years.

Yeah there pants alright.

[Philby]

It's good that we agree that they are pants. For a second I thought you were going to defend these inbred, oompa loompa maggots.

[FL4ZGN]

It's good that we agree that they are pants. For a second I thought you were going to defend these inbred, oompa loompa maggots.

Gary Neville is a legend.

Phil Neville has more premier league winners medals than the whole Liverpool squad put together. If he is pants i'd hate to see what you have to say about the Liverpool squad ;)

[jimmy magee]

The Nevilles aren't gifted so to speak. But Gary is captain of and has started for Man utd for many years. What does that say about him.

[Philby]

The Nevilles aren't gifted so to speak. But Gary is captain of and has started for Man utd for many years. What does that say about him.

He has pictures of the drunken scot touching up lads at the academy?

[EL TORO]

Phil maybe the lesser of the Nevilles, but he is at least a commited professional willing to put in a shift everytime he dons the jersey,and for that alone i like the guy.

[STEVIEG]

Both great pro's

Hence the loads of caps and great success with whoever they have played with (bar England, but that's hardly their fault)

[stevetharlear]

I'd say they're more 'special', than gifted. Phil looks like he could do with a leather helmet in all fairness. That said, both unbelievable professionals and Phil has done raised his reputation since his move, he still shines most games he plays with Everton, no matter what position.
Better than J. Charlton i'd say, a fair way off Bobby though.

[RedCityKid]

Cannot believe this Everton thread is still going. Congrats Forsberg u are the thread manager equivalent to Steve Coppell

[Armitage Conway the 2nd]

Phil neville and AJ has been the best buys for everton in a while. Not forgetting cahill and arteta. Moyes has some clout when it comes to the market. Himself and Rednapp seem to be on the pulse of rooting potenial and exploting it at a fraction of the cost of the over valued gawk in the premiership

[FL4ZGN]

Phil neville and AJ has been the best buys for everton in a while. Not forgetting cahill and arteta. Moyes has some clout when it comes to the market. Himself and Rednapp seem to be on the pulse of rooting potenial and exploting it at a fraction of the cost of the over valued gawk in the premiership

In both Neville and AJ he purchased proven quality players.
I dont understand your reasoning.

[Armitage Conway the 2nd]

They're pants.

No, no theyre not, you're pants, do you hear me, YOU are,

[Armitage Conway the 2nd]

In both Neville and AJ he purchased proven quality players.
I dont understand your reasoning.

Players were cheap. He had no budget. he's done wonders...etc etc

[FL4ZGN]

Players were cheap. He had no budget. he's done wonders...etc etc

13 Million for two players is not cheap.

[Armitage Conway the 2nd]

13 Million for two players is not cheap.


13? where did you get that figure? AJ=6 and neville=3 and a bit. and even so, the premiership is way way too over priced. I wouldnt have said AJ was proven in the premiership. He had one season and then went back to the Champo league. Hardly a definite smash hit. Its only now the likes of arsenal are rumoured to be looking at him

[FL4ZGN]

13? where did you get that figure? AJ=6 and neville=3 and a bit. and even so, the premiership is way way too over priced. I wouldnt have said AJ was proven in the premiership. He had one season and then went back to the Champo league. Hardly a definite smash hit. Its only now the likes of arsenal are rumoured to be looking at him

AJ cost 8.5 million after being the highest scoring english centre forward in the premiership with 21 goals at relegated palace.

Phil cost 3.5 million after winning what he was won.

Okay i am out by one million but Moyes still spent 12 million on two players.

2 million for Arteta and 1.5 million for Cahill was okay business for two players who were not proven.

[stevetharlear]

AJ cost 8.5 million after being the highest scoring english centre forward in the premiership with 21 goals at relegated palace.

Phil cost 3.5 million after winning what he was won.

Okay i am out by one million but Moyes still spent 12 million on two players.

2 million for Arteta and 1.5 million for Cahill was okay business for two players who were not proven.

still wouldn't say AJ is proven to be honest. Has had a dodgy enough spell after a blistering start and even with the winner last weekend the rest of his game wasn't up to much. Expect big season from him next season.
Phil on the other hand as you say has nothing to prove to anyone and was very good business at the price... 20 odd mill for Hargreaves anyone???

[Forsberg]

still wouldn't say AJ is proven to be honest. Has had a dodgy enough spell after a blistering start and even with the winner last weekend the rest of his game wasn't up to much. Expect big season from him next season.
Phil on the other hand as you say has nothing to prove to anyone and was very good business at the price... 20 odd mill for Hargreaves anyone???

I agree about AJ . He had an excellent start but he's been very patchy since then and has been reaaly poor in the past 4 or 5 imo. But as El Toro pointed out he hasn't had a regular partner all season and that's obviously hindering him . He's still got a long way to go before he justifies that club record fee, but I have very confidence that he will.

As for Nevill , I think he's been an inspired signing. I was worried considering the fate of other out of favour United player's who had to leave towards the end of their career- Butt , Yorke, Cole etc. I felt that Phil would go down the same "I really don't give a shit anymore" route but he's been superb. Unbelievably versatile and always gives 100% . Well worth the admittedly hefty fee

[Philby]

13? I wouldnt have said AJ was proven in the premiership. He had one season and then went back to the Champo league. Hardly a definite smash hit. Its only now the likes of arsenal are rumoured to be looking at him

No it isn't. Wenger was interested in him when he was at palace but thought he was overpriced mainly due to the fact that a fair few clubs were interested in him.

£8.5m for AJ was about right and looks far better value than £6m for Beattie.

[Forsberg]

£8.5m for AJ was about right and looks far better value than £6m for Beattie.


Yup but not as good as £10m for Berbatov. I think it was as fair a valuation as you'll get in the prem to be honest . A solid signing that could prove to be a great signing in time

[Armitage Conway the 2nd]

No it isn't. Wenger was interested in him when he was at palace but thought he was overpriced mainly due to the fact that a fair few clubs were interested in him.

£8.5m for AJ was about right and looks far better value than £6m for Beattie.

Shouldnt have said interested, more like willing to pay the cash he is valued at....Most managers would have bought him if the price wasnt so high...Everton took the gamble and its paying off

[EL TORO]

still wouldn't say AJ is proven to be honest. Has had a dodgy enough spell after a blistering start and even with the winner last weekend the rest of his game wasn't up to much. Expect big season from him next season.
Phil on the other hand as you say has nothing to prove to anyone and was very good business at the price... 20 odd mill for Hargreaves anyone???


I'm tired of people saying this. Maybe on tv it looked like AJ wasnt at his best, but believe me, he ran himself ragged. He made runs into channels all afternoon, The midfield overlooked him a lot. Sometimes tv coverage really doesnt do players justice. Overall he's not been awesome this season, but compare his prem goals tally to Mr Rooney's....makes interesting reading...taking into account his injury aswell.

[Forsberg]

I'm tired of people saying this. Maybe on tv it looked like AJ wasnt at his best, but believe me, he ran himself ragged. He made runs into channels all afternoon, The midfield overlooked him a lot. Sometimes tv coverage really doesnt do players justice. Overall he's not been awesome this season, but compare his prem goals tally to Mr Rooney's....makes interesting reading...taking into account his injury aswell.

That's all very well El Toro but Kevin kilbane used to run himself into the ground as well . It doesn't automatically mean that he's playing well . For someone who cost £8.5m you expect a bit more. So I think Steve has a point .

Saying that I think AJ has done well overall this season bar a few games recently but I think his criticism is valid enough

[EL TORO]

That's all very well El Toro but Kevin kilbane used to run himself into the ground as well . It doesn't automatically mean that he's playing well . For someone who cost £8.5m you expect a bit more. So I think Steve has a point .

Saying that I think AJ has done well overall this season bar a few games recently but I think his criticism is valid enough

ooh Point well made....Damn that Zinedine Kilbane. My boss here at work is a Wigan season ticket holder....and his views on Kilbane are better left unsaid. Maybe i'm a bit leniant on AJ, but I firmly believe he is our new Cottee.

[Mr Jefferson]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6503097.stm

Same old hat again or is there some substance to it. Personally I'm in favour of the ground share idea. Cost would be spread over both clubs, 60,000 capacity and all in the centre of Liverpool.

[Forsberg]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6503097.stm

Same old hat again or is there some substance to it. Personally I'm in favour of the ground share idea. Cost would be spread over both clubs, 60,000 capacity and all in the centre of Liverpool.


Besides the obvious drawback of sharing a ground with your main rivals ( I've never been a fan of this situation), I'd be very worried about the proposal of the stadium being over 60,000. Unfortuantely Everton don't have that fanbase and the idea of Everton playing in half or 3/4 full stadiums every other week isn't very appealing at all

[EL TORO]

Besides the obvious drawback of sharing a ground with your main rivals ( I've never been a fan of this situation), I'd be very worried about the proposal of the stadium being over 60,000. Unfortuantely Everton don't have that fanbase and the idea of Everton playing in half or 3/4 full stadiums every other week isn't very appealing at all

Im not a fan of ground sharing either. I think if you ask most toffees they wouldnt be for the idea. Its more a decision that will be made by the higher echelons anyway. I was at Goodison for the charity game vs Barca veterans and there was about 7,000 at it. As you say fella, a half empty stadium is not appealing at all. Score by the way was 3-4. Barca got a dodgy pen in the last minute. Reid played like a 20yr old for about half an hour. Sharpy though did not live up to his name though.

[Mr Jefferson]

the idea of Everton playing in half or 3/4 full stadiums every other week isn't very appealing at all

I fear a move out to Kirby might result in that anyway.

[Philby]

I'd be very worried about the proposal of the stadium being over 60,000. Unfortuantely Everton don't have that fanbase and the idea of Everton playing in half or 3/4 full stadiums every other week isn't very appealing at all

What?? Sure aren't they the self-professed "People's Club"? Can't be that hard to fill a 60,000 stadium in a city of ~0.5 million people if you're the people's club I would've thought.

[EL TORO]

What?? Sure aren't they the self-professed "People's Club"? Can't be that hard to fill a 60,000 stadium in a city of ~0.5 million people if you're the people's club I would've thought.

Moyes brought about the phrase ' the people's club'. It came from the fact that when he originally came to Liverpool, most of the people he saw walking the streets were wearing Everton shirts. He may have been walking through the district of Everton at the time but thats besides the point. If the Blues move to Kirkby it should'nt alter the attendance that much. Sure if 30,000 norwegians can make to Anfield every 2nd week it cant be hard.

[Forsberg]

Moyes brought about the phrase ' the people's club'. It came from the fact that when he originally came to Liverpool, most of the people he saw walking the streets were wearing Everton shirts. He may have been walking through the district of Everton at the time but thats besides the point. If the Blues move to Kirkby it should'nt alter the attendance that much. Sure if 30,000 norwegians can make to Anfield every 2nd week it cant be hard.

I still find that "peoples club" thing a bit embarrassing to be honest. Not so much that Moyes said it , but that the Marketing men have adopted it and are using it freely.

I don't really see the move to Kirkby having too much of an effect really . The one thing that bothers me is that the council seem so willing to leave them move out of the city.


As for that legends game , I didn't recognise one name on that Barca teamsheet . Whereas Everton had all their big guns out and still managed to lose

[EL TORO]

I still find that "peoples club" thing a bit embarrassing to be honest. Not so much that Moyes said it , but that the Marketing men have adopted it and are using it freely.

I don't really see the move to Kirkby having too much of an effect really . The one thing that bothers me is that the council seem so willing to leave them move out of the city.


As for that legends game , I didn't recognise one name on that Barca teamsheet . Whereas Everton had all their big guns out and still managed to lose

The barca players looked remarkably fit and able. They passed the ball around well and looked like kept themselves in shape. In fairness to Everton they came back from 3-0 down and were only beaten by a generous penalty. It was a game full of comedy though. Some of the tackles and dives were hilarious. As for the Peoples club thing, I dont mind it. I think it means more to those Evertonians in Liverpool than anywhere else.

[stevetharlear]

www.peeblesfc.com

the real 'peebles football club'.

Think I might make the Villa match on Monday, although will prob end up sat with the home fans. looking forward to it never the less.

[Mr Jefferson]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6509565.stm

hehehe

[Forsberg]

Big game tonight . Really need to win after Bolton and Spurs won at the weekend . Villa are in terrible form and being dragged into the relegation fight. This worries me because it will make them more desperate and they're due a result as well .

Saying that Everton's defence has been the best in the league over the past month and Villa's attack has been woeful.

I reckon it'll be a low scoring draw , which won't be good enough

[Roman Abramovich]

Big game tonight . Really need to win after Bolton and Spurs won at the weekend . Villa are in terrible form and being dragged into the relegation fight. This worries me because it will make them more desperate and they're due a result as well .

Saying that Everton's defence has been the best in the league over the past month and Villa's attack has been woeful.

I reckon it'll be a low scoring draw , which won't be good enough

carew will be too much for ye to handle. great player.

[EL TORO]

Big game tonight . Really need to win after Bolton and Spurs won at the weekend . Villa are in terrible form and being dragged into the relegation fight. This worries me because it will make them more desperate and they're due a result as well .

Saying that Everton's defence has been the best in the league over the past month and Villa's attack has been woeful.

I reckon it'll be a low scoring draw , which won't be good enough

Faith Fosberg, have faith fella. As you say we are solid at the back now, and our midfield is at its creative best with Arteta and Manny playing. I think the Arsenal win will have done wonders for morale now. Theres a genuine belief in the air now that we can make it into Europe. Im hoping to see a similar game to the 3-1 win we had at Villa parka few years ago. Maybe as you say Villa will be fighting for their lives a bit, but I cant see us shipping goals tonight. We have a tough run in and need to win these kind of games. On a different matter, It looks like VDM is off in the summer!

[legend76]

Stick a Fiver in me pocket, I'll fetch the Ballbags from the Van.
Cos if you want the best 'uns, but you don't ask questions,
Then brother, I'm not your man.
'Cos where they all come from is a mystery,
We buy these Journeymen for reasons that i just can't see
But here's the one that's drivin' me beserk, Why don't Sad old BLOO's and Europe Work?
La-la-la. La-lala-la. La-la-la. La-lala-la.

We've got some half price Old guys and miles and miles of Wood Lice
Knock Kneed, Has Been's, and Z cars on an LP
Long Ball games, Wannk Stains, Classless games and Shoddy Goods, And Silly Chang Tracksuits from the mush who sells us all our Bush......
Bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush ...

No income Max, no Local Parity, the Moneys Slack, we're SHlT you see
In BLOO and White, we hardly score, that's what we're called NEVER For
God bless Hooky Street. Viva Hooky Street. Long live Hooky Street.
C'est Shambolic, Gwladys street, Shambolic Gwladys Street

[EL TORO]

Brilliant play on words there. :confused:

[Forsberg]

Faith Fosberg, have faith fella. As you say we are solid at the back now, and our midfield is at its creative best with Arteta and Manny playing. I think the Arsenal win will have done wonders for morale now. Theres a genuine belief in the air now that we can make it into Europe. Im hoping to see a similar game to the 3-1 win we had at Villa parka few years ago. Maybe as you say Villa will be fighting for their lives a bit, but I cant see us shipping goals tonight. We have a tough run in and need to win these kind of games. On a different matter, It looks like VDM is off in the summer!

Ya , his comments after the Arsenal game were the final nail in the coffin really. It's a shame cos there'll always be that feeling of what could have been and I get the feeling he could go on and be a success somwhere , maybe La Liga. He's got unreal talent.

On a different note , it looks like Anderson Da Silva has disappeared off the face of the planet - He's not even getting reserve games :rolleyes:

[EL TORO]

Ya , his comments after the Arsenal game were the final nail in the coffin really. It's a shame cos there'll always be that feeling of what could have been and I get the feeling he could go on and be a success somwhere , maybe La Liga. He's got unreal talent.

On a different note , it looks like Anderson Da Silva has disappeared off the face of the planet - He's not even getting reserve games :rolleyes:

The Da Silva deal always looked a bit strange to me. I'm quite happy if we manage to keep Manny and DaSilva disappears. He was on the list of players available yesterday, but today no longer. I agree about VDM, he certainly has the ability, but we're not going to see any more of it this season. Im hoping Moyes goes with AJ and Vaughany up front again tonight, Villa's defence is a bit porous at the moment.

[stevetharlear]

Stick a Fiver in me pocket, I'll fetch the Ballbags from the Van.
Cos if you want the best 'uns, but you don't ask questions,
Then brother, I'm not your man.
'Cos where they all come from is a mystery,
We buy these Journeymen for reasons that i just can't see
But here's the one that's drivin' me beserk, Why don't Sad old BLOO's and Europe Work?
La-la-la. La-lala-la. La-la-la. La-lala-la.

We've got some half price Old guys and miles and miles of Wood Lice
Knock Kneed, Has Been's, and Z cars on an LP
Long Ball games, Wannk Stains, Classless games and Shoddy Goods, And Silly Chang Tracksuits from the mush who sells us all our Bush......
Bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush ...

No income Max, no Local Parity, the Moneys Slack, we're SHlT you see
In BLOO and White, we hardly score, that's what we're called NEVER For
God bless Hooky Street. Viva Hooky Street. Long live Hooky Street.
C'est Shambolic, Gwladys street, Shambolic Gwladys Street

Ya... it's funnier when it's done in a Scandinavian accent. Good wan feen.

[Forsberg]

I reckon it'll be a low scoring draw , which won't be good enough


Boo-ums

I hate being right

[Deadman]

BALLS.....Fucking villa cunts....14 draws in one season, and it aint even over yet..fuck fuck fuck...

[stevetharlear]

Another 2 points squandered, shame although there was some good points, Vaughan's performance being one of them. It'd be nice to see him get a run now, he's full of confidence and if he clicks with AJ they'd be a good combo for next season...whether in Europe is doubtful enough now though. Oh the hallowed ground of Mediocrity again, although it beats fighting relegation hands down.
Arteta was unreal again last night, seems to shine more when Cahill's not playing for some reason, Carsley did a fine job doing the donkey work for him again though.

[Mr Jefferson]

Spent the whole game firing hail Marys up to Johnson, basically handing the ball to Villa to play with. We should never have let them into the game.

Great performance by Lescott again, he's got my vote for player of the season.

[FL4ZGN]

Villa deserved at least a draw.

[Forsberg]

Another 2 points squandered, shame although there was some good points, Vaughan's performance being one of them. It'd be nice to see him get a run now, he's full of confidence and if he clicks with AJ they'd be a good combo for next season...whether in Europe is doubtful enough now though. Oh the hallowed ground of Mediocrity again, although it beats fighting relegation hands down.
Arteta was unreal again last night, seems to shine more when Cahill's not playing for some reason, Carsley did a fine job doing the donkey work for him again though.

Pretty fair synopsis. My old fella made a comment last night that he reckons Everton are a better team when Cahill isn't in the team. Although I wouldn't go that far , I don't think that we miss him an awful lot . It probably looks that way because a player of the calibre of Manny has come in and filled the void. I do think they're a more versatile team without him and I agree that Arteta is a lot more influentilal without Timmy.

There's normally a token non top 4 player given an ol nomination for player of the year. I wonder will Arteta be that guy

[EL TORO]

Ah well looks like Forsberg was spot on with his prediction. It was an entertaining if not frustrating game. We were great in the first half, everyone playing well ( except Ossie). The link up play was there, we were shooting from distance and taking the game to a poor villa side. A bit fortunate with the goal and should have been given a stonewall penalty. All that said, The great work of the first half was undone by a completely different Villa in the second half. They obviously took a bollocking at half time and really came out of the blocks in teh 2nd half. Moyes should have replaced a very tired Vaughan in the last 15 mins and dare I say it should have taken off Ossie for VDM. All that was needed was fresh legs and someone else other than Mikel to hold up the ball. Depending on our result on Friday, Last night may cost us dearly. Overall though I thought it was plain to see that we have come on a lot under Moyes. The team has a sense of purpose now, plays as a unit and is capable of showing some nice touches and intricate passes. If only we had Manny available to link with Arteta.

[AmadeusDC]

There's normally a token non top 4 player given an ol nomination for player of the year. I wonder will Arteta be that guy

You're right, always at least one. Maybe Arteta but I'd say Berbatov will be ahead of him though. -AmadeusDC-

[EL TORO]

This is a big one! Sky dont even need to overblow this game. Bottom line is that we need to win, a draw/loss would be a disaster. Im hoping Fernandes has mended and will be back to his creative best. Put Ossie back on the bench and keep Vaughan up front with AJ. Im back home tomorrow night so it'll be the one Evertonian in a cork pub scenario for me again.

[Forsberg]

This is a big one! Sky dont even need to overblow this game. Bottom line is that we need to win, a draw/loss would be a disaster. Im hoping Fernandes has mended and will be back to his creative best. Put Ossie back on the bench and keep Vaughan up front with AJ. Im back home tomorrow night so it'll be the one Evertonian in a cork pub scenario for me again.

Except for the fact that all pubs wil be closed . ;)

Huge game . I fancy us for a comfortable win - 2-0 3-1 .

Fulham are pretty poor away from home and Everton owe the fans a good performance against Fulham considering their second half at Craven Cottage earlier in the season was possibly the worst 45 mins of football they've played under Moyes.

[EL TORO]

Except for the fact that all pubs wil be closed . ;)

Huge game . I fancy us for a comfortable win - 2-0 3-1 .

Fulham are pretty poor away from home and Everton owe the fans a good performance against Fulham considering their second half at Craven Cottage earlier in the season was possibly the worst 45 mins of football they've played under Moyes.

Ah shit I forgot about that. Damn this secular country has warped my mind. Agreed on Fulham though, Our class should show over them.

[Forsberg]

Ah shit I forgot about that. Damn this secular country has warped my mind. Agreed on Fulham though, Our class should show over them.

If they can't win this game then they're not good enough for Europe and won't deserve to qualify imo.

Manny should be back and even better news McFadden is back in contention :rolleyes:

[EL TORO]

If they can't win this game then they're not good enough for Europe and won't deserve to qualify imo.

Manny should be back and even better news McFadden is back in contention :rolleyes:


Ditto. It frustrates me that we will beat the likes of Arsenal et al, and then struggle against the mid to low table teams. I hope to god he doesnt play McFadden. He annoys the hell out of me. The guy is useless, there is no need to play him if any of our other strikers are fit.

Hopefully : HOWARD, VALENTE,YOBO,LESCOTT ,STUBBS, ARTETA,FERNANDES,CAR SLEY, NEVILLE, JOHNSON , VAUGHAN.

BENCH : WRIGHT,BEATTS,ANICHE BE,HIBBERT & OSMAN.

[Alan Smith]

Just a question for Everton fans, is there many in Cork? saw them play about two years ago in Goodison against Blackburn , Rooney was shite that day. Whole team were, atmosphere was relativley poor. Right above the Rovers fans , few of them got kicked out, still a pretty friendly bunch in comparison to those other scouse nobs

[Forsberg]

Ditto. It frustrates me that we will beat the likes of Arsenal et al, and then struggle against the mid to low table teams. I hope to god he doesnt play McFadden. He annoys the hell out of me. The guy is useless, there is no need to play him if any of our other strikers are fit.

Hopefully : HOWARD, VALENTE,YOBO,LESCOTT ,STUBBS, ARTETA,FERNANDES,CAR SLEY, NEVILLE, JOHNSON , VAUGHAN.

BENCH : WRIGHT,BEATTS,ANICHE BE,HIBBERT & OSMAN.

Yup I 'd like to seem him stick with AJ and Vaughan upfront to allow them to at least attempt to develop a partnership .

I'd like to see Neviller stay at RB if possible . I think he's looked at his best there for us all season adn the defence , as a whole looks so solid with him there

Agreed about McFadden although saying that, I'd rather see him given a shot on the wing in place of Osman

[EL TORO]

Just a question for Everton fans, is there many in Cork? saw them play about two years ago in Goodison against Blackburn , Rooney was shite that day. Whole team were, atmosphere was relativley poor. Right above the Rovers fans , few of them got kicked out, still a pretty friendly bunch in comparison to those other scouse nobs

Havent lived at home for 4 years but there are a fair few in Cork. Used go to the supporters meetings at the Brewery tap in mid nineties. Strangely enough there are loads of Everton fans over here every week from Waterford and Kildare. As regards the atmosphere at Goodison, when its quiet its a bit dull, but wait for a dodgy ref decision, a goal for the blues for favourable results on the big screen at fulltime and the place is great. I still prefer the atmosphere at Goodison to that of Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge. Both great stadia but a bit too full of daytrippers and new football fans, Anyone who has sat in the upper east stand at OT would testify to this.

[Forsberg]

Good perfornamce tonight although that should be the norm at home against this quality of opposition.

Lescott was outstanding at LB again and by far the MOM. If he keeps improving like this at LB he may have a long term future there. His passing was excellent from there and he can actualy attack with confidence.

The other two that impressed me were Carsley and AJ. 100% commitment from Cars and AJ did what he does best, Non stop runing into the channels , winning balls that he shouldn't and just generally being a nuisance to Fulham defence.

Some negatives though. Awful defending from set-pieces. I fucking hate zonal marking. One of Arteta's poorer performances this season despite creating a couple of goals . His ball retention was below par by his high standards

Oh and Osman was awful again , but that goes without say. Would Wigan or Fulham make a bid for him already?

[Deadman]

Totally happy with that showing. Joleon Lescott might find himself a new position. Left back seems to be suiting him down to the ground. Dealt very well with Routledge and coming forward he looks so composed on the ball. Not what you expect from a guy who played in central defence up to mid season. And all the goals were quality. Carsley with a lovely flick from a very inviting cross from the brilliant lescott. Stubbs from a great delivery from Arteta, Vaughan, who may I add is getting better and better every week with a sublime touch to score right on the half time whistle. And finally we had Victor Anichebe coming on for Vaughan and scoring what was for me, the goal of the game with a brilliant pass to Arteta who then passed it beautifully to Anichebe again. Who in turn slotted it home from the edge of the area. Nice finish and a very nice 3 points. Fulham did have a good go and ended up with more posession at the end but the fact is they were stuffed. Roll on monday and Bolton. We have to win after they won today. Cant let them get too far ahead of us. So win on monday and hop above them on goal difference. And then, who knows maybe we can catch the Arse...

[Deadman]

Some negatives though. Awful defending from set-pieces. I fucking hate zonal marking. One of Arteta's poorer performances this season despite creating a couple of goals . His ball retention was below par by his high standards

Oh and Osman was awful again , but that goes without say. Would Wigan or Fulham make a bid for him already?

Honestly I didn't think Arteta was as bad as you say. And Osman is having a bad time of late but that could be down to the fact he was shifted to the left to let Arteta come in to the right. But saying that they changed in the second half...would like to see him stay, im a big fan of him to be honest and every player has a bad season. this appears to be Osmans....

[Forsberg]

Honestly I didn't think Arteta was as bad as you say. And Osman is having a bad time of late but that could be down to the fact he was shifted to the left to let Arteta come in to the right. But saying that they changed in the second half...would like to see him stay, im a big fan of him to be honest and every player has a bad season. this appears to be Osmans....


Can't agree about Osman . He's not good enough at this level. He's too lightweight and doesn't seem to be doing anything about it . He's what? 24 now. Has he not heard of a gym? He doesn't have the skill or speed of thought to not let that effect him.The best I can say about Osman is that he tries hard. That's fine if they're in a relegation scrap but not now. Saying that there aren't any other realistic options at the moment so I root for him everytime he plays.


Re Arteta , hes still played ok but it wasn't one of his better performances this season. IMO he deserves to recieve a player of the year nomination. He's been that good.

[Deadman]

Can't agree about Osman . He's not good enough at this level. He's too lightweight and doesn't seem to be doing anything about it . He's what? 24 now. Has he not heard of a gym? He doesn't have the skill or speed of thought to not let that effect him.The best I can say about Osman is that he tries hard. That's fine if they're in a relegation scrap but not now. Saying that there aren't any other realistic options at the moment so I root for him everytime he plays.


Re Arteta , hes still played ok but it wasn't one of his better performances this season. IMO he deserves to recieve a player of the year nomination. He's been that good.

I think Ossie is a nice neat player, yes he is very lightweight but he showed enough in the early parts of this season, to me anyway that he has what it takes. He has gone off the boil of late. Games go by and you really dont see him. AT ALL. Every player goes games like that, but I see where you are coming from. He needs to get into the games more. But you see if Fernandez was fit Ossie would not have made the team anyway. So I expect Ossie to be on the bench on Monday against Bolton with Fernandez back in the first team. And with no argument from me about that. Fernandez is a class player. If we only buy one player in the summer and I doubt we will only buy one, but if we only buy one I want it to be him. Fantastic to watch.

And as you said Arteta should be nominated for player of the year. He has been our outstanding player, for the second season in a row. The future looks great for us and I couldn't be happier..

[Deadman]

http://www.evertonfc.com/assets/_files/images/apr_07/efc__1176132421_bole ve_gallery3_vaughanc ele.jpg

Once again, the lad done well. If you had given me a one one draw with Bolton I would have taken it. But saying that we were unlucky not to take all three. Chances aplenty for us but not enough to get the second. Still three points behind Bolton but at least we are opening a gap to the teams behind us. Next up we have Charlton who are going to fight us but we should win it. Especially as its at home. It's going to be a fun end to the season so strap yourselves in lads.

[Forsberg]

http://www.evertonfc.com/assets/_files/images/apr_07/efc__1176132421_bole ve_gallery3_vaughanc ele.jpg

Once again, the lad done well. If you had given me a one one draw with Bolton I would have taken it. But saying that we were unlucky not to take all three. Chances aplenty for us but not enough to get the second. Still three points behind Bolton but at least we are opening a gap to the teams behind us. Next up we have Charlton who are going to fight us but we should win it. Especially as its at home. It's going to be a fun end to the season so strap yourselves in lads.


Yup decent result. At least we're still within a game of them.

By all acounts they kicked Everton all around the Reebok today. Will wait to see it before I start Bolton bashing but I really despise them.

Supposedly Everton moved the ball around nicely but lacked a bit of penetration. It's positive that they're at least playing a bit of football. The goals have been there this season so that doesn't worry me. The problem has been an inability to keep the ball and conserve a bit of energy and thus not collapse in the last quarter.

[Deadman]

Jesus, Mary and Joseph and the donkey...Did anyone see that scumbag cunt Diouf tackle Neville. That fucking scum should be taken away and shot. No need for that sort of play in anything. I dont give a shit, that tackle was purely a sign of a fucking demented waster. And then THEY have the nerve to say that the goal we scored had a foul on Speed. Have looked at it and I must say if the ref gave a free for that then there would be no soccer played in any games. Start.......Stop.... ...Start......Stop.. ....A nothing foul and they wanted a free for that..FUCK OFF NOTLOB YOU ANNOYING MEANINGLESS BASTARDS...By God they annoy me. Always have and always will.

But away from those cunts and lets just say nice finish by Vaughan again. He is a nice player. Not afraid of anything is this guy. And he showed it by going off with a burst artery in his left foot. Good to see Beattie get a run out for more then 5 minutes and he made a nuisance of himself for the last half an hour. But I still hope Vaughan is back fit for Charlton on sunday.

[EL TORO]

Unfortunate news for Vaughan. Im still pretty hopeful we can pull off 6th place this season though. Theres a sense of belief in the team now aswell. The way we have come from behind in the last 2 games shows how far they have come as a squad in the last 12 months. In the past I could never see us turn around a negative start to a game, but its great to see the desire amongst all the players now.

As regards Ossie i'd have to agree with Forsberg, the lad is too lightweight. He gets into good positions yet can never finish the job (west ham aside). He gives possession away too easily and surely cannot be the best player we have in his position. At best he is a squad player.

Predictions for the remaining games:

VS CHARLTON (2-0) WIN
VS WEST HAM (2-2)
VS MAN UTD (1-1)
VS PORTSMOUTH (1-0)WIN
VS CHELSEA ( 0-2) LOSS

I'm not too confident about the Utd game, They're chasing the treble now and we're short in squad numbers. Can't really see us beating Chelsea at the bridge unless the league is already sown up by then.

[Forsberg]

Unfortunate news for Vaughan. Im still pretty hopeful we can pull off 6th place this season though. Theres a sense of belief in the team now aswell. The way we have come from behind in the last 2 games shows how far they have come as a squad in the last 12 months. In the past I could never see us turn around a negative start to a game, but its great to see the desire amongst all the players now.

As regards Ossie i'd have to agree with Forsberg, the lad is too lightweight. He gets into good positions yet can never finish the job (west ham aside). He gives possession away too easily and surely cannot be the best player we have in his position. At best he is a squad player.

Predictions for the remaining games:

VS CHARLTON (2-0) WIN
VS WEST HAM (2-2)
VS MAN UTD (1-1)
VS PORTSMOUTH (1-0)WIN
VS CHELSEA ( 0-2) LOSS

I'm not too confident about the Utd game, They're chasing the treble now and we're short in squad numbers. Can't really see us beating Chelsea at the bridge unless the league is already sown up by then.

I'd go along with those predictions . I'd nearly even fancy us to go to West Ham and nick a win. This is the fist time in a while that I feel confident that they'll go out and put in a performance.

Re:Vaughan. As nasty as the injury was , there's every chance may not miss a game . i'd love to see him play the rest of the season with AJ upfront.

[EL TORO]

I'd go along with those predictions . I'd nearly even fancy us to go to West Ham and nick a win. This is the fist time in a while that I feel confident that they'll go out and put in a performance.

Re:Vaughan. As nasty as the injury was , there's every chance may not miss a game . i'd love to see him play the rest of the season with AJ upfront.

That looks like the partnership for the years to come. The link up play isnt quite there yet, but its not far off.

[Deadman]

That looks like the partnership for the years to come. The link up play isnt quite there yet, but its not far off.

Without a doubt. The lad looks a real gem. FUCK OFF MANYOOOOOO. You aint getting this one. I always believed he was going to be a fantastic player, just a pity he was sidelined last season. But dont write off big Victor just yet. He showed against Fulham the other day what he can do by coming off the bench. Should be interesting if and when both Vaughan and Anichebe start up front and form a partnership

[EL TORO]

A win is a must in this game if we are to take one of the available uefa spots. Charlton are on a bit of a roll now and we're a bit low on numbers so a big effort will be needed to take all three points. I'm hoping Moyes doesnt revert to a 4-5-1 because of injuries to the young lads. I'd push on with AJ and Beatts and take the game to the Addicks from the off. Here's to another 4-1 at Fortress Goodison!

[Mr Jefferson]

Bolton 1-0 up against Arsenal. We need 3 points today, thats for sure.

[Deadman]

Bloody well happy with the result at The Emirates today chaps. Probably better that Arsenal won rather then Bolton. Win tomorrow and we go above Bolton. Now that would be nice.

[Forsberg]

Bloody well happy with the result at The Emirates today chaps. Probably better that Arsenal won rather then Bolton. Win tomorrow and we go above Bolton. Now that would be nice.


Yup. Pretty confident as well. Charlton will probably play for a 0-0 but i think Arteta will provide something from a set piece. Hopefully Spurs will be knackered and demoralised for the ugly trip to Wigan as well.

[EL TORO]

Come on you Blue boys!!! :cool:

[Deadman]

FUCKING IDIOTS.....why was that such a hard thing to do.....how could we not hold out againsy charlton ffs....oh yes.....you beauty...as i type mcfadden has scored deep in injury time.....

[Deadman]

Nice one jimmy boy....Left it late. I was ready to launh into a massive tirade about how crap that result was and then, well, he kind scored...looking at the stats we deserved it. Osman had 7 shots at goal today..not bad for a lightweight eh guys...

[Forsberg]

Jesus... what a last 10 minutes . Beautiful winner from McFadden.

Felt sorry for Beattie . He's actually trying too hard and it's not working.

Poor in-game management from Moyes again . He got lucky though . Why does he go so defensive when they go 1 up. This is Charlton FFS . We should be putting them away in those situation.. He was just about to bring VDM on when Joleon Legend.scored. He still should have .

The crowds frustration with Osman was very obvious. He was appaling . An embarrasment today. The thing is , he finds himself in great positions but lacks any basic footballing ability to take advantage

[Deadman]

Jesus... what a last 10 minutes . Beautiful winner from McFadden.

Felt sorry for Beattie . He's actually trying too hard and it's not working.

Poor in-game management from Moyes again . He got lucky though . Why does he go so defensive when they go 1 up. This is Charlton FFS . We should be putting them away in those situation.. He was just about to bring VDM on when Joleon Legend.scored. He still should have .

The crowds frustration with Osman was very obvious. He was appaling . An embarrasment today. The thing is , he finds himself in great positions but lacks any basic footballing ability to take advantage

where was the match on....

[Forsberg]

where was the match on....
Watched it online

www.myp2p.eu ESPN Asia with English Commentary

Osman had 7 shots at goal today..not bad for a lightweight eh guys...

He was atrocious today. Probably the worst I've seen him. At one stage Arteta played a lovely ball across the box for Osman to hit . Airballed it and it hit his standing foot . Truly embarrasing

[Deadman]

Watched it online

www.myp2p.eu ESPN Asia with English Commentary



He was atrocious today. Probably the worst I've seen him. At one stage Arteta played a lovely ball across the box for Osman to hit . Airballed it and it hit his standing foot . Truly embarrasing

does that online site require a payment or whats the story...

and as for ossie, it looks on paper a good effort but having not seen the game and you have seen it i think i will take your opinion on it. its just not going for him...

[EL TORO]

hahahaha get in u blue boys!!!!!!!! Just back from the game, What an afternoon of emotions. Ossie was denitely shite today, Beatts ran his socks off and as was already stated we should have been 4 up by half time. All in all it was a cracking afternoon and one of those days your so glad to be a bluenose!! I'm absolutely buzzing now.

[EL TORO]

For my 600th post......Get in Faddy!!!!!!!!!!:mrgr een: :mrgreen:

[Forsberg]

does that online site require a payment or whats the story...

and as for ossie, it looks on paper a good effort but having not seen the game and you have seen it i think i will take your opinion on it. its just not going for him...

No its all free.

Basically you have to download a couple of programs that allow you to watch the games . TvAnts, Sopcast , PPMate etc. There's a list down the righthand side of the page . Once downloaded check to see if any of them are showing the game you want.

Then click play next to the program you have installed . Usually there are a few options for every game. Currently I have 4 programs d/l , TVU, Sopcast , PPmate and TVants.

Here's the beginners guide for ya

http://myp2p.eu/Introduction.htm

[STEVIEG]

Just saw the winner

Some goal at that stage of the game

[Mr Jefferson]

Can anyone remember the fine print of Rooneys contract? If memory serves, don't we get an extra few million if they win the Premiership and Champions league?

[Forsberg]

Can anyone remember the fine print of Rooneys contract? If memory serves, don't we get an extra few million if they win the Premiership and Champions league?

Well there was definitely money owed but I have a feeling that it may have been written off as part of the Howard deal.

[EL TORO]

Well there was definitely money owed but I have a feeling that it may have been written off as part of the Howard deal.

Spot on.

[Forsberg]

Spot on.

Hey EL TORO any news your end about the situation with Manny? A few different rumours going about. It looks like he was fit to play yesterday but wasn't included.

[EL TORO]

Hey EL TORO any news your end about the situation with Manny? A few different rumours going about. It looks like he was fit to play yesterday but wasn't included.

Same over here. They say he is still not 100% fit, which I dont believe. I cannot understand him not being played. The rumours will get more intense until something is said. A few fellas at the game yesterday were saying he may have a limit to the amount of consecutive games he can play whilst on loan, similar to his problem at Pompey. I'm hoping he's just injured and we're not being kept in the dark as is usual.

[Forsberg]

Same over here. They say he is still not 100% fit, which I dont believe. I cannot understand him not being played. The rumours will get more intense until something is said. A few fellas at the game yesterday were saying he may have a limit to the amount of consecutive games he can play whilst on loan, similar to his problem at Pompey. I'm hoping he's just injured and we're not being kept in the dark as is usual.


Ya hope so to . Lets hope that Moyes is jsut trying to keep him fresh for the Man U game. But there have been rumours that Moyes has decided that he won't be signing him in the summer. I hope that's not tru cos I've been extremely imprssed with him. He could become world class.

But as you said, the longer that no officla line is prsented then the rumours will persist

[EL TORO]

Ya hope so to . Lets hope that Moyes is jsut trying to keep him fresh for the Man U game. But there have been rumours that Moyes has decided that he won't be signing him in the summer. I hope that's not tru cos I've been extremely imprssed with him. He could become world class.

But as you said, the longer that no officla line is prsented then the rumours will persist

Although the fella is class, I can see Moyes wanting to spend 12m on Nugent and maybe the likes of Sidwell etc. I bet he's loath to pay 12m on one player.

[Forsberg]

Although the fella is class, I can see Moyes wanting to spend 12m on Nugent and maybe the likes of Sidwell etc. I bet he's loath to pay 12m on one player.

Ya ... i feel the same to be honest. I'd take Sidwell definitely though. Although I fear that some team ( probably Newcastle) will out negotiate us. They have the resources to give him a big contract whereas we don't.


Saying that, I'd be very happy if he brought in just Nugent and one of Barton, Sidwell and Manny, and maybe another couple of good loan signings which is something Moyes has been brilliant at in fairness

[EL TORO]

Ya ... i feel the same to be honest. I'd take Sidwell definitely though. Although I fear that some team ( probably Newcastle) will out negotiate us. They have the resources to give him a big contract whereas we don't.


Saying that, I'd be very happy if he brought in just Nugent and one of Barton, Sidwell and Manny, and maybe another couple of good loan signings which is something Moyes has been brilliant at in fairness


I honestly cant see us having a massive kitty this year. If we signed Manny that may tie up all our funds. Beatts and VDM have to go which may increase the funds but like you i'd rather Nugent and Sidwell than one big signing.

[Deadman]

David Moyes reckons Leon Osman played a big part in Everton's last ditch win over Charlton.

While James McFadden grabbed the headlines with his late goal, Moyes reserved some praise for Osman's influence on the game.

“Ossie just tipped the balance for us in the second half with his performance,” he explained.

“He had a few disappointing shots, but overall he just tipped the balance. He got on the ball, worked well in the hole behind James McFadden when we changed things a little bit near the end and he gave us different options in the last 20 minutes.

“Charlton defended really well, as they have done in the last four weeks, which is why we kept trying to get the ball out wide to Mikel (Arteta) and Ossie. I don’t know how things are going to work out, but we’re in a good position now with four games to go.”


Moyes seems to think different to you guys about Leon and his display yesterday.

[Forsberg]

David Moyes reckons Leon Osman played a big part in Everton's last ditch win over Charlton.

While James McFadden grabbed the headlines with his late goal, Moyes reserved some praise for Osman's influence on the game.

“Ossie just tipped the balance for us in the second half with his performance,” he explained.

“He had a few disappointing shots, but overall he just tipped the balance. He got on the ball, worked well in the hole behind James McFadden when we changed things a little bit near the end and he gave us different options in the last 20 minutes.

“Charlton defended really well, as they have done in the last four weeks, which is why we kept trying to get the ball out wide to Mikel (Arteta) and Ossie. I don’t know how things are going to work out, but we’re in a good position now with four games to go.”


Moyes seems to think different to you guys about Leon and his display yesterday.

I dunno. maybe he's just trying to give the guy a bit of confidence. The crowd seemed like they were seriously on his back though. Anyway Moyes loves a guy who works hard and there's no doubt Ossie works hard.

[EL TORO]

I dunno. maybe he's just trying to give the guy a bit of confidence. The crowd seemed like they were seriously on his back though. Anyway Moyes loves a guy who works hard and there's no doubt Ossie works hard.

Ossie reminds me of john Ebbrell. He was a quality player in flashes but never became the provider of goals and assists that his ability suggested. I like Ossie because he plays his socks off, but as already stated, If VDM was a regular Ossie wouldnt get a look in.

[Forsberg]

Ossie reminds me of john Ebbrell. He was a quality player in flashes but never became the provider of goals and assists that his ability suggested. I like Ossie because he plays his socks off, but as already stated, If VDM was a regular Ossie wouldnt get a look in.


If VDM had the attitude and worth ethic of Osman, we'd have one of the best rightsided midfielders around .

Good comparison with Ebbrell. He could do something brilliant every so often but didn't do enought for the amount of time and opportunity he had. The same could be said of McFadden to an extent as well

[Forsberg]

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=46166 1&CPID=8&clid=11&lid=&title=Arteta+keeping +options+open

Everton's star midfielder Mikel Arteta is keeping his options open on his future.

The former Rangers and Real Sociedad man has been linked with a return to Spain with Atletico Madrid.

The Spaniard previously stated it would be a 'dream' to join Atletico, despite enjoying his time at Goodison Park.

Arteta is remaining tight-lipped on where he will be playing next season as Atletico are uncertain which direction they want to take.

"I've not spoken to Atletico, but maybe my agent has," he said in the Sun.

"We'll leave it and see what Atletico want to do for the following season.

"Everton are a big club and I feel important here. I'm having a good time."


I must say . i'm not overly confident about him staying and I'd be very disappointed if it was to a club like Atletico. A top 4 club like - Valencia or even Sevilla ,i could understand cos at least he'd be playing Champions League.

Lets hope we get a Ronaldo syle commitment out of the blue soon.

[legend76]

Who was the last player to score a penalty against Everton in an FA Cup match at Goodison?

[Philby]

"Everton are a big club and I feel important here. I'm having a good time."


Arteta just cracks me up with top-rate gags like that...Alonso must've put him up to it.

[legend76]

Who was the last player to score a penalty against Everton in an FA Cup match at Goodison?

any ideas lads?????

[Edmund Blackwater]

David Unsworth would be funny.

[legend76]

David Unsworth would be funny.

the correct answer is even funnier.

P.s. it was a while ago

[Forsberg]

the correct answer is even funnier.

P.s. it was a while ago


I have no idea and it's been wrecking my head

[STEVIEG]

Gary Lineker?

[Forsberg]

Gary Lineker?

You're probably right actually. Actually isn't Legend76 a Spurs fan?? hmm...

[EL TORO]

Manuel Fernandes is targetting a return to action when Everton visit West Ham on Saturday.

The on-loan midfielder hasn't played since catching the eye during the Blues' 1-0 win over Arsenal last month.

He returned from international duty with Portugal's under 21s with a thigh strain and then suffered a bout of tonsilitis.

But after overcoming those setbacks, Fernandes is now keen to play a part in Everton's run-in.

He told evertonTV: "Things were going well and it wasn't the best moment for me to get an injury and to be sick.

"I am over that now, my illness is gone, I am getting better from my thigh strain and I hope to play against West Ham."

Get in lad!!!

[KolaKubes]

You know, if Everton wanted to make themselves a handy few bob, a poor showing at Goodison against Utd and a stormer at the Bridge on the final day could help net you a few hundred grand on the ROoney transfer.

Go on, you know it makes sense. ;)

[Forsberg]

You know, if Everton wanted to make themselves a handy few bob, a poor showing at Goodison against Utd and a stormer at the Bridge on the final day could help net you a few hundred grand on the ROoney transfer.

Go on, you know it makes sense. ;)

But a win against both and we'd make that money anyway by finishing 5th instead of, say 6th

[KolaKubes]

But a win against both and we'd make that money anyway by finishing 5th instead of, say 6th

I'd take a win against both if that's what you're offering.

Ye just have to inflict José's first loss at home in the league since 2003.

[EL TORO]

But a win against both and we'd make that money anyway by finishing 5th instead of, say 6th

loving the confidence Forsberg.

[STEVIEG]

I'd take a win against both if that's what you're offering.

Ye just have to inflict José's first loss at home in the league since 2003.

Well hopefully it will be the second if United win there!

[Forsberg]

I'd take a win against both if that's what you're offering.

Ye just have to inflict José's first loss at home in the league since 2003.
For the record , I can see us taking a draw from United in a high scoring affair and if the league is up for grabs on the last day , we'll more than likely get rolled over at the bridge

[legend76]

Gary Lineker?

You're probably right actually. Actually isn't Legend76 a Spurs fan?? hmm...

it's not Lineker, and yes I am a Spurs fan. It was before Lineker's time, well before it in fact, 14 years before he was even born!!

the guy in question would go on to cause a lot of tears for Evertonians

[Forsberg]

it's not Lineker, and yes I am a Spurs fan. It was before Lineker's time, well before it in fact, 14 years before he was even born!!

the guy in question would go on to cause a lot of tears for Evertonians

Mike Walker??? :(

[KolaKubes]

For the record , I can see us taking a draw from United in a high scoring affair and if the league is up for grabs on the last day , we'll more than likely get rolled over at the bridge

Utd don't generally come out the worse of high scoring affairs old sausage.

StevieG, beating them at the Bridge would be lovely but can't see it myself. I keep banging on and on about this to anyone who'll listen but they'll steamroll our midfield, especially if Scholes is playing and strangle us into submission. We're just don't have the requisite players in our squad to tackle their crude but effective style of football I'm afraid.

[STEVIEG]

Utd don't generally come out the worse of high scoring affairs old sausage.

StevieG, beating them at the Bridge would be lovely but can't see it myself. I keep banging on and on about this to anyone who'll listen but they'll steamroll our midfield, especially if Scholes is playing and strangle us into submission. We're just don't have the requisite players in our squad to tackle their crude but effective style of football I'm afraid.

Yeah, we'll see

I'd be delighted to win the tricky games before that and have a win there to win the title-then it would be possible

If West ham and co can create chances i'm sure united can

They are tough though and I won't be taking anything for granted

Now, sorry Toffee's, back to ye

[Forsberg]

Utd don't generally come out the worse of high scoring affairs old sausage.

.

And they wouldn't be coming out the worst . 2-2 draw I reckon . A good result for Man U if you ask me. ;)

[legend76]

Mike Walker??? :(

he was a goalie, but yeah you're are thinking on the right lines, the guy became more famous for being a manager

[STEVIEG]

Joe Royle?

Colin Harvey?

I dunno:(

edit-after last post not them

[STEVIEG]

Charlie George?

[legend76]

Mike Walker??? :(

actually lads Mike Walker's career high-point as a player is a big clue

[STEVIEG]

actually lads Mike Walker's career high-point as a player is a big clue

It's a Liverpool player I'm sure

[legend76]

It's a Liverpool player I'm sure

anfield legend yes, but not as a player

[EL TORO]

Alright fellas, Whats all this about , I cant find the beginning of this thread?

[STEVIEG]

anfield legend yes, but not as a player

Matt Busby?

[legend76]

Alright fellas, Whats all this about , I cant find the beginning of this thread?

who was the last player to score a penalty against Everton in the FA Cup at Goodison park?

[legend76]

Matt Busby?

is that a fitzy?? Matt Busby - Anfield legend

[STEVIEG]

is that a fitzy?? Matt busby - Anfield legend

Played with Liverpool

[STEVIEG]

Bill Shankly?

Bob Paisley?

Joe Fucking Fagan?

John Lennon???????:)

[FL4ZGN]

who was the last player to score against Everton in the FA Cup at Goodison park?

Benny McCarthy

[EL TORO]

Erm .....

[FL4ZGN]

Walker played in goal for a lower league club and saved a penalty in a game which seen Watford knock Liverpool out of the FA Cup.

[STEVIEG]

Walker played in goal for a lower league club and saved a penalty in a game which seen Watford knock Liverpool out of the FA Cup.

Against Everton though

[legend76]

who was the last player to score a penalty against Everton in the FA Cup at Goodison park?

Benny McCarthy

sorry TBT, check edit

[legend76]

Walker played in goal for a lower league club and saved a penalty in a game which seen Watford knock Liverpool out of the FA Cup.

Correct, he helped Knock Bill Shankly's Liverpool out of the cup


Bill Shankly?

Bob Paisley?

Joe Fucking Fagan?

John Lennon???????:)

1/4 !!! Bill Shankly scored a penalty for Preston against Everton at Goodison in the FA Cup way back in January 1946

[STEVIEG]

Correct, he helped Knock Bill Shankly's Liverpool out of the cup




1/4 !!! Bill Shankly scored a penalty for Preston against Everton at Goodison in the FA Cup way back in January 1946

Fuck sake my head was wrecked thanks for putting us out of our misery:)

[FL4ZGN]

sorry TBT, check edit

Bill Shankly for Preston

[FL4ZGN]

Ahh ffs legend i could have told you that.

You gave me all of two minutes after you corrected the orginal question.

I knew it was shankly but wanted to say McCarthy as i knew you had the question wrong.

[legend76]

Ahh ffs legend i could have told you that.

You gave me all of two minutes after you corrected the orginal question.

I knew it was shankly but wanted to say McCarthy as i knew you had the question wrong.

It was worded correctly when i asked it yesterday

http://www.peoplesrepublico fcork.com/~peoplesr/forums/showpost.php?p=14985 38&postcount=161

apologies for throwing you off the scent with my hastily typed reply to El Toro

[FL4ZGN]

It was worded correctly when i asked it yesterday

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apologies for throwing you off the scent with my hastily typed reply to El Toro

Not a bother.

Good question btw.

[Deadman]

http://www.evertonfc.com/evertoninteractive/goal-of-the-season.html

Which one of these takes your fancy. And honestly it was my first time seeing three of these goals and Mcfadden's goal against Charlton was just pure class.

[Deadman]

Can anyone remember the fine print of Rooneys contract? If memory serves, don't we get an extra few million if they win the Premiership and Champions league?


Everton will benefit by £1.65m if Wayne Rooney and Manchester United end the season having secured a treble success in the Premiership, FA Cup and Champions League.
The England striker moved from Goodison Park to Old Trafford in the summer of 2004 for an initial fee of £20m but the terms of the deal include bonus payments of up to £7m. Some £23m has now been paid to the Merseyside club even though none of the clauses relating to the securing of honours has as yet been activated.


That could change in the next few weeks as United attempt to secure their first Premiership title since 2003 and meet Chelsea in the FA Cup final at Wembley next month. Those honours would earn Everton £500,000 and £150,000 respectively, with another £1m due should Sir Alex Ferguson's side edge beyond Milan in the Champions League semi-finals and go on to lift the trophy in Athens against either Liverpool or Chelsea on May 23. Should United lose in Greece, Everton would still benefit by £500,000.
The total could rise to £7m depending on events up until 2009.

Everton will receive £3m even if none of these events occurs provided Rooney, 21, remains registered with United until June 30 2007, and if United sell him Everton will receive 25% of any sum received by the Old Trafford club in excess of all amounts paid under this agreement

[Forsberg]

http://www.evertonfc.com/evertoninteractive/goal-of-the-season.html

Which one of these takes your fancy. And honestly it was my first time seeing three of these goals and Mcfadden's goal against Charlton was just pure class.

For me , it's a toss up between

1) AJ v Spurs- Superb breakaway to wrap up the game against our bogey team at our bogey ground. Superb play from Osman in that goal actually :oops:

2) Arteta V Bolton - Brilliant footwork (twice) and a beautiful understated curling finish. Pure class from the best player outside the top 4 teams

3) McFadden V Charlton- Bergkamp and Le Tissier esque and absolutely vital goal that I reckon secured European football for next year.

At a push , I'd choose McFadden's cos I've been a huge critic of his but he really came good despite me cursing Moyes when I saw him bring him on in that game.



EDIT: I realise that you can't really have a toss up between 3 things but anyway....

[Deadman]

For me , it's a toss up between

1) AJ v Spurs- Superb breakaway to wrap up the game against our bogey team at our bogey ground. Superb play from Osman in that goal actually :oops:

2) Arteta V Bolton - Brilliant footwork (twice) and a beautiful understated curling finish. Pure class from the best player outside the top 4 teams

3) McFadden V Charlton- Bergkamp and Le Tissier esque and absolutely vital goal that I reckon secured European football for next year.

At a push , I'd choose McFadden's cos I've been a huge critic of his but he really came good despite me cursing Moyes when I saw him bring him on in that game.



EDIT: I realise that you can't really have a toss up between 3 things but anyway....

Well if push came to shove and I had to pick I would give it to McFadden too. Whatever about the fact it may just have secured us European footy next season, it was by all means a truly fantastic touch to put it over Bougherra and then to slam it in first time after the lob was just a touch of class. Like yourself and I'm sure like many others I too have been a critic of him but the lad always tries his best and if he can reciprocate what he does for Scotland for us week in week out then he could become part of a very interesting front line. You choose from Johnson, Vaughan, Anichebe, McFadden, Beattie(when he can be arsed he is a top player). Trying to pick two from those guys is hard. So good luck to Moysie on that...

[Forsberg]

Well if push came to shove and I had to pick I would give it to McFadden too. Whatever about the fact it may just have secured us European footy next season, it was by all means a truly fantastic touch to put it over Bougherra and then to slam it in first time after the lob was just a touch of class. Like yourself and I'm sure like many others I too have been a critic of him but the lad always tries his best and if he can reciprocate what he does for Scotland for us week in week out then he could become part of a very interesting front line. You choose from Johnson, Vaughan, Anichebe, McFadden, Beattie(when he can be arsed he is a top player). Trying to pick two from those guys is hard. So good luck to Moysie on that...

Yup and Beattie will not be an Everton player next season. Hopefully we'll have a certain David Nugent to add to that strike force instead.. All young players with bags of potential . The future is bright

[Deadman]

Yup and Beattie will not be an Everton player next season. Hopefully we'll have a certain David Nugent to add to that strike force instead.. All young players with bags of potential . The future is bright

Is Nugent as good as they say.? I mean have you seen him play. I haven't seen him at all. EVER. Shame for Beats though. He was on a high of sorts after his purple patch at the end of last season and with Johnson coming in it was billed as our best strike force in an age. But we all know how that went and he looks destined for the door. But you got to give him massive credit with the way he has handled this fall from our new number 9 to being a bit part player. Not many would accept that and would probablyhave a tantrum but Beats has been very professional.

I hear also that Moyes has offered Carsley a new contract to keep him away from Wolves and Birmingham. Cars, along with Phil Neville have been our two unsung players this season and if any player deserves a new contract its Cars.

[Forsberg]

Is Nugent as good as they say.? I mean have you seen him play. I haven't seen him at all. EVER. Shame for Beats though. He was on a high of sorts after his purple patch at the end of last season and with Johnson coming in it was billed as our best strike force in an age. But we all know how that went and he looks destined for the door. But you got to give him massive credit with the way he has handled this fall from our new number 9 to being a bit part player. Not many would accept that and would probablyhave a tantrum but Beats has been very professional.

I hear also that Moyes has offered Carsley a new contract to keep him away from Wolves and Birmingham. Cars, along with Phil Neville have been our two unsung players this season and if any player deserves a new contract its Cars.

Agreed on all counts .

I have a lot of respect for Beats for the way he conducts himself. Remember he was Everton record signing . He always comes on and embraces everyone after a win. Fair play to him

I'm glad Cars and Stubbs have been given extensions . Both have prven beyond doubt that they still can provide something. But I hope they don't quite need to play as many minutes as they are this season.

Nev has been great as well

[Deadman]

And its nice to see Manny is back in the squad for the Wet Spam game on saturday. I saw lots of theories going around here about why he was not playing in our last few games so its nice that he put everyones fears to bed by telling it like it is and saying he was injured and then got struck down with a virus. I would rather we sign him in the summer then Nugent to be honest. If the money is only there for one of them then please buy Manny.

[Forsberg]

And its nice to see Manny is back in the squad for the Wet Spam game on saturday. I saw lots of theories going around here about why he was not playing in our last few games so its nice that he put everyones fears to bed by telling it like it is and saying he was injured and then got struck down with a virus. I would rather we sign him in the summer then Nugent to be honest. If the money is only there for one of them then please buy Manny.

Ya ... maybe . But as good as Vaughan and Ancihebe look, they're still very young and raw. We need someone else a bit older to replace Beattie. I konw Nugent is young as well but he seems a bit more developed than those two.

A left winger is also need badly But I'd love Manny to be made permanent but he will cost a small fortune

[Deadman]

Ya ... maybe . But as good as Vaughan and Ancihebe look, they're still very young and raw. We need someone else a bit older to replace Beattie. I konw Nugent is young as well but he seems a bit more developed than those two.

A left winger is also need badly But I'd love Manny to be made permanent but he will cost a small fortune

Manny, Arteta, Cahill, Neville and dare I say it, that is a brilliant four to have in midfield. Left wingers are hard to come by and I have not been impressed by any this season that is for sure. Since he sold Killa, nobody has really taken that position and made it their own. Arteta drifts in there, Naysmith plays there the odd time, Osman has tried it and even Van Der Meyde has "played" there. But the key areas are right defence. No back up for Hibbo which is a disgrace. And the next key area is I guess another striker. Somebody with experience on their side. Nugent is a gamble for me, but we have seen Moyes take gambles before and they have paid off. Cahill and Lescott the two most prominent among them. If he is willing to buy then I'm going to back him 100% but if he doesn't buy then I wont be upset.

[Forsberg]

Manny, Arteta, Cahill, Neville and dare I say it, that is a brilliant four to have in midfield. Left wingers are hard to come by and I have not been impressed by any this season that is for sure. Since he sold Killa, nobody has really taken that position and made it their own. Arteta drifts in there, Naysmith plays there the odd time, Osman has tried it and even Van Der Meyde has "played" there. But the key areas are right defence. No back up for Hibbo which is a disgrace. And the next key area is I guess another striker. Somebody with experience on their side. Nugent is a gamble for me, but we have seen Moyes take gambles before and they have paid off. Cahill and Lescott the two most prominent among them. If he is willing to buy then I'm going to back him 100% but if he doesn't buy then I wont be upset.

I'd love to see him keep VDM but it's not going to happen. Neville is a better right back than Hibbert imo so that's why we another couple of midfielders. . In fairness to Moyes, his purchases have been superb and I trust he'll do it again this summer. What I like is that he refuses toi buy deadwood like clubs like Spurs and dare I say , Liverpool.

[Deadman]

I'd love to see him keep VDM but it's not going to happen. Neville is a better right back than Hibbert imo so that's why we another couple of midfielders. . In fairness to Moyes, his purchases have been superb and I trust he'll do it again this summer. What I like is that he refuses toi buy deadwood like clubs like Spurs and dare I say , Liverpool.

all the hype and nothing to show..VDM has been a massive disappointment and should go...his attitude has been catty to say the least and Moyes takes no shit..he showed in flashes he can be good but thats all they are, flashes..

Agreed on him not buying deadwood just to fill the areas..he can aggrivate at times by not buying when you want him to but if he cant get the man he wants then he wont buy..simple as that..try next window...But his purchases as you say have been superb. Starting with Yobo he has delivered when it matters outside the football pitch.

[EL TORO]

Manny, Arteta, Cahill, Neville and dare I say it, that is a brilliant four to have in midfield. Left wingers are hard to come by and I have not been impressed by any this season that is for sure. Since he sold Killa, nobody has really taken that position and made it their own. Arteta drifts in there, Naysmith plays there the odd time, Osman has tried it and even Van Der Meyde has "played" there. But the key areas are right defence. No back up for Hibbo which is a disgrace. And the next key area is I guess another striker. Somebody with experience on their side. Nugent is a gamble for me, but we have seen Moyes take gambles before and they have paid off. Cahill and Lescott the two most prominent among them. If he is willing to buy then I'm going to back him 100% but if he doesn't buy then I wont be upset.

Nugent is quality. A buddy of mine is a Preston fan and i've been to Deepdale a few times this season, the guy is class. Granted he is playing in the championship but dont let that detract from this fella's ability. He' powerful, alert, great touch and striker's vision. Although I'd love to keep Manny, I'd far prefer to have a 20 goals a season striker and a quality left sided midfielder. If you have any doubts about Nugent, have a look at youtube. I'm thinking we steal a 2-1 win at the hammers.

[Deadman]

Nugent is quality. A buddy of mine is a Preston fan and i've been to Deepdale a few times this season, the guy is class. Granted he is playing in the championship but dont let that detract from this fella's ability. He' powerful, alert, great touch and striker's vision. Although I'd love to keep Manny, I'd far prefer to have a 20 goals a season striker and a quality left sided midfielder. If you have any doubts about Nugent, have a look at youtube. I'm thinking we steal a 2-1 win at the hammers.

Took a look at some of his stuff there, quality stuff from him. Its the first I have seen him play and thought it would be a gamble as really nobody has even thought about bidding for him. We have but have never really done anything about it. I still think we need another right back and a striker and if Arteta decides he wants out then he should say so soon and then we can decide on the Manny option to buy him.

[EL TORO]

Took a look at some of his stuff there, quality stuff from him. Its the first I have seen him play and thought it would be a gamble as really nobody has even thought about bidding for him. We have but have never really done anything about it. I still think we need another right back and a striker and if Arteta decides he wants out then he should say so soon and then we can decide on the Manny option to buy him.


Fear not fella, Arteta is going nowhere, He genuinely loves playing for Everton. As for Nugent ,he's a fanatical Evertonian and really wants to come to Everton, a player with his ability should not be overlooked, especially if Beatts makes way in the summer.Agree with the right back point.

[Deadman]

And Zamora scores......Bastard. ....does anyone know what happened to Johnson...he is gone off injured..

[#11sully]

Ya he is gone off but don't know what happened. Big blow for the toffies.
Just saw this
What looks like an early enforced change for Everton as Andy Johnson hobbles off after hurting his ankle in a challenge with Nigel Reo-Coker.

[Deadman]

Ya he is gone off but don't know what happened. Big blow for the toffies.
Just saw this
What looks like an early enforced change for Everton as Andy Johnson hobbles off after hurting his ankle in a challenge with Nigel Reo-Coker.

thats a massive blow..now its time for Beattie to earn his stripes...

[EL TORO]

thats a massive blow..now its time for Beattie to earn his stripes...


For fuck sake, why the fuck hasnt Manny been on since kick off?? Osman is having a nightmare as usual, and i'd be packing my bags if i was Beattie, he's woeful. I cant see us getting out of this one. It should have been Osman taken off, not the fucking captain. Come on blues:-x

[EL TORO]

aaaaaaargggh !!!!!! Arteta from 6 yards.....not gonna be our day

[Deadman]

i was never really confident of this anyway...and yes that miss was shocking...

[Deadman]

For fuck sake, why the fuck hasnt Manny been on since kick off?? Osman is having a nightmare as usual, and i'd be packing my bags if i was Beattie, he's woeful. I cant see us getting out of this one. It should have been Osman taken off, not the fucking captain. Come on blues:-x

agreed on osman...shocking...a nd beattie is just as bad...

[EL TORO]

i was never really confident of this anyway...and yes that miss was shocking...

We needed at least a point today, with Utd coming to Goodison next week. GET IN DOYLER!!!!!! 1-1 BOLTON

[EL TORO]

6 Mins Stoppage Time????????

doyler to the rescue!! reading 2 -1

[Deadman]

and why the fuck is robert green suddenly having the game of his horrible fucking life...no johnson and no game plan without him...just cross it into beattie...shit shit shit...

[Deadman]

that osman shot is the story of the game.....

[Deadman]

bolton total capitulation....3-1

[EL TORO]

Thats it, Reading did us a massive favour today. We are sadly lacking up front if AJ, Vaughan and Vic are going to miss the run in. I'd rather have Fernandes and Mc Fadden up front than Beattie. They will raise their game against Utd, but I really cant see us taking any points next week, so it'll be the Portsmouth game that should decide if our season is a success or not.

[EL TORO]

bolton total capitulation....3-1

Brilliant, I hate those fuckers , I really do. Well done Reading

[Forsberg]

I turned it off after Beattie's embarrasing miss. Atrocious. I just knew it was gonna be a loss.

bolton total capitulation....3-1

You know? I'm not overly happy about that result. Reading are firmly in the race now. So realistically 3 from 4 for UEFA Cup. With our run in I wouldn't be that confident.

As much as it pains me to say it a Bolton win would have probably been a better result

[Deadman]

I turned it off after Beattie's embarrasing miss. Atrocious. I just knew it was gonna be a loss.



You know? I'm not overly happy about that result. Reading are firmly in the race now. So realistically 3 from 4 for UEFA Cup. With our run in I wouldn't be that confident.

As much as it pains me to say it a Bolton win would have probably been a better result

I see where you are coming from. Three points clear of Reading as it stands and 4 clear of Spurs who have a game in hand. I still think we can get something from next week. This game was scrappy and next week will be much much better to watch. But everyone today was rubbish..it wont be like that next week...

[EL TORO]

I see where you are coming from. Three points clear of Reading as it stands and 4 clear of Spurs who have a game in hand. I still think we can get something from next week. This game was scrappy and next week will be much much better to watch. But everyone today was rubbish..it wont be like that next week...

Here's hoping fella. Forsberg, you are probably right to worry about Reading, but they've been generally inconsistent this season,so they may not figure too much.

[RedCityKid]

I think the Bolton reading result was a terrible result for Everton and Spurs fans alike. Reading have Watford at home and Newcastle at home and in my opinion they are going to take one of the UEFA SPOTS. As a Spurs fan the only things comforting me are we have a game in hand and our run in isn't the worst Boro(a) Charlton (a) Blackburn(h) Man City(h). However Bolton,Everton and Spurs are a long way from being home and hosed. Bolton have Chelsea and West ham away which I believe they will take nothing from and I have a feeling the might just fall at the last fence .... like they do every other year.

[EL TORO]

I think the Bolton reading result was a terrible result for Everton and Spurs fans alike. Reading have Watford at home and Newcastle at home and in my opinion they are going to take one of the UEFA SPOTS. As a Spurs fan the only things comforting me are we have a game in hand and our run in isn't the worst Boro(a) Charlton (a) Blackburn(h) Man City(h). However Bolton,Everton and Spurs are a long way from being home and hosed. Bolton have Chelsea and West ham away which I believe they will take nothing from and I have a feeling the might just fall at the last fence .... like they do every other year.

Thanks for compounding my misery today fella. I'm off for tapas and lots wine.

[RedCityKid]

Thanks for compounding my misery today fella. I'm off for tapas and lots wine.

You going to Boquera then???

[EL TORO]

You going to Boquera then???


Nah fella, El tapas in Sale, the best tapas this side of the Sierra Nevada.

[EL TORO]

Tricky dicky is in goal for the Utd game, as Howard is contract bound and cannot play against Utd.

[xvis]

Tricky dicky is in goal for the Utd game, as Howard is contract bound and cannot play against Utd.

Phil will be under contract to his older brother as well. ...expect a penalty around the 63rd minute.

[Deadman]

Mikel Arteta has reiterated his determination to remain at Everton - making his clearest statement yet that rumours linking him with a return to Spain this summer are completely without foundation.

The midfield man has been a key figure in Everton's march to the brink of European qualification.

But in recent month's last season's Player of the Year has been regularly linked with a return to Spain, with Atletico Madrid mentioned most prevalently.

Despite having already refuted the suggestion on evertonfc.com, the rumours have continued.

And so, in the wake of Saturday's defeat at West Ham, Arteta was compelled to underline his desire to remain at Goodison. Indeed, the 24-year-old has revealed he would love to extend his contract with the Toffees.

He said: “I am fed up with it all. They are taking my words and putting them into whatever context they want to. It’s getting on my nerves.

“I keep saying that I am really happy here and that is true. I think that the club wants to do something in the summer and we will see what happens. But if they want me to stay for a long time and are happy with me, I will be happy to do that.

“I am committed to this club, I feel really happy here and I feel that I am an important part of the team. I like all the people at the club, I am made to feel welcome by people in the city and there is no reason why I should leave.


“Every time I am asked the question (by someone in Spain) it ends up coming out that I want to go home but that is not the case. It would be a lack of respect if I spoke about other clubs and I wouldn’t do that anyway. All I can say is that I am really happy here.”



Music to my ears. To be honest I was worried he might leave but its good to see its all bullshit.

[Superior]

Music to my ears. To be honest I was worried he might leave but its good to see its all bullshit.

Yeah, I can't imagine a player saying one thing and then doin the other...

I bet he doesn't want to go back to Spain with Athletico. That'd frighten anyone into signing a 10-year contract.

[Deadman]

But seriously a guy of that quality should not play for a team like Athletico. They are not a top quality team. I'm not saying Everton are but if he was to leave I would prefer he went to a decent team. Although he did say he would like to go back to Sociedad when he is finished at Everton. Heres hoping that wont be for another ten years or so...

[wat_boy]

id be very surprised if a BIG club don't put in a bid for him during the summer :p

[MonTheHoops]

Could see at Rangers that he had talent but was too easily scared out of it to be honest. Seemed as though all you needed to do to nullify him was go in strong against him early on. It looks like, oddly enough, it was Spain and not Scotland that toughened him up.

[Deadman]

id be very surprised if a BIG club don't put in a bid for him during the summer :p

hey up yours mate....

[Deadman]

got to move this up...down to the second page is just not on...

[Mr Jefferson]

Alan Ball R.I.P

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[EL TORO]

Alan Ball R.I.P

http://www.sporting-icons.com/shopmedia/images/6430.jpg

A true gent r.i.p.